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    <p><font face="Calibri">Yeah. I think we're going to go with
        "Soapbox Races" for now. Seems safer, though I'd rather use
        something like "DIY Cart Derby" or anything simple that could
        catch on. I think the "Derby" part is more important. You
        already have the following derbies, so another type of derby
        makes sense...</font></p>
    <ul>
      <li><font face="Calibri">Soap Box Derby</font></li>
      <li><font face="Calibri">Pin Box Derby</font></li>
      <li><font face="Calibri">Kentucky Derby</font></li>
    </ul>
    <p><font face="Calibri">And "DIY Cart" really is what the event is
        about.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Calibri">Maybe "Maker's Cart Derby"</font><br>
    </p>
    <p><font face="Calibri">Thanks,</font></p>
    <p><font face="Calibri">Mik<br>
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    <p><font face="Calibri"></font><br>
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Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA
413-320-5336
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://MontagueWebWorks.com">http://MontagueWebWorks.com</a>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/24/2020 9:06 AM, Karl Hakkarainen
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">The
          difference is that the trademark applies to "Soap Box" Derby.
          Because trademarks applications apply to exact words and
          marks, the space does matter. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">That
          said, one of the things that gets IP lawyers involved is when
          there is likelihood of confusion between trademarks. Using the
          phrase "Soapbox Derby" could make a reasonable person believe
          that the derby is affiliated with the "Soap Box Derby," a mark
          owned by International Soap Box Derby, Inc. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">This
          is a pretty good summary of the "likelihood of confusion"
          issue: <a
            href="https://ipmetrics.net/likelihoodofconfusion.html"
            style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://ipmetrics.net/likelihoodofconfusion.html</a></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Again,
          I am not a lawyer, but I would avoid using Soapbox Derby in an
          event. The risk is small, but the impact could be big. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">./kh </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:28
          AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss <<a
            href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <p><font face="Calibri">Hey all,</font></p>
            <p><font face="Calibri">I'm looking to see if I can use the
                term "soapbox derby" for some upcoming events, and am a
                little confused by my search results.</font></p>
            <p><font face="Calibri">Using the US Patent and Trademark
                Office website, I find no results for that exact phrase:</font></p>
            <ul>
              <li><a
href="http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><font
                    face="Calibri">http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1</font></a></li>
            </ul>
            <p><font face="Calibri">But on another USPTO page, I do find
                a hit:</font></p>
            <ul>
              <li><font face="Calibri"><font face="Calibri"><a
href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch</a></font></font></li>
            </ul>
            <p><font face="Calibri">And, using other websites, I find
                all kinds of hits and misses:<br>
              </font></p>
            <ul>
              <li><a
href="https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><font
                    face="Calibri">https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search</font></a></li>
              <li><font face="Calibri"><a
href="https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60</a></font></li>
              <li><a
                  href="https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><font
                    face="Calibri">https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/</font></a></li>
            </ul>
            <p><font face="Calibri">What's the best way to make sure,
                and what's your experience with searching and filing
                trademarks?</font></p>
            <p><font face="Calibri">Thanks,</font></p>
            <p><font face="Calibri">Mik<br>
              </font></p>
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            <pre cols="72">-- 
Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
413-320-5336
<a href="http://MontagueWebWorks.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://MontagueWebWorks.com</a>
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