<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">The difference is that the trademark applies to "Soap Box" Derby. Because trademarks applications apply to exact words and marks, the space does matter. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">That said, one of the things that gets IP lawyers involved is when there is likelihood of confusion between trademarks. Using the phrase "Soapbox Derby" could make a reasonable person believe that the derby is affiliated with the "Soap Box Derby," a mark owned by International Soap Box Derby, Inc. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">This is a pretty good summary of the "likelihood of confusion" issue: <a href="https://ipmetrics.net/likelihoodofconfusion.html" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">https://ipmetrics.net/likelihoodofconfusion.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Again, I am not a lawyer, but I would avoid using Soapbox Derby in an event. The risk is small, but the impact could be big. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">./kh </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font face="Calibri">Hey all,</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">I'm looking to see if I can use the term
"soapbox derby" for some upcoming events, and am a little
confused by my search results.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Using the US Patent and Trademark Office
website, I find no results for that exact phrase:</font></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri">http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1</font></a></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Calibri">But on another USPTO page, I do find a hit:</font></p>
<ul>
<li><font face="Calibri"><font face="Calibri"><a href="https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch" target="_blank">https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch</a></font></font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Calibri">And, using other websites, I find all kinds
of hits and misses:<br>
</font></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri">https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search</font></a></li>
<li><font face="Calibri"><a href="https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60" target="_blank">https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60</a></font></li>
<li><a href="https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri">https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/</font></a></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Calibri">What's the best way to make sure, and what's
your experience with searching and filing trademarks?</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Thanks,</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri">Mik<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri"></font><br>
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Montague WebWorks
413-320-5336
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