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    <p>+1 for <a
href="https://cleanmymac.macpaw.com/20?campaign=cmmx_search_text_brand_us&ci=105095406&adgroupid=15565330806&adpos=1t1&ck=cleanmymac%203&targetid=kwd-111733657446&match=%7Bif:e%7D&gnetwork=g&creative=197446344603&placement=&placecat=&accname=cmm&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjO-Yi6ro5gIVCmyGCh2qHQPzEAAYASAAEgKZhvD_BwE"
        class="">Clean My Mac</a>.  Thanks for <a
        href="https://macpaw.com/gemini" class="">Gemini 2</a> - I would
      hope it would distinguish between dupes that are part of active
      system files and those from earlier systems!<br>
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    <p>Anyone here use <a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx">OnyX</a>?  <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/3/2020 4:26 PM, Chris Landry via
      Hidden-discuss wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">As others have said, an external drive will be your
        friend. Here’s a process you might use.</div>
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      <div class="">1. Download <a
          href="http://grandperspectiv.sourceforge.net" class=""
          moz-do-not-send="true">Grand Perspective</a>, a free app that
        will show graphically what’s taking up the most space. <a
          href="https://daisydiskapp.com" class=""
          moz-do-not-send="true">DaisyDisk</a> is similar, and costs
        $10. </div>
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      <div class="">2. Run either one of those apps to show what’s on
        your Mac and it will show you the largest files. Move them to
        your backup disk (if you still need them, otherwise delete
        them), then delete them from your Mac (and empty the trash).</div>
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      <div class="">3. If you have 12,000 jpgs you could just move all
        of them to a photos folder on the external drive, too. </div>
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      <div class="">4. Then get an app like <a
          href="https://macpaw.com/gemini" class=""
          moz-do-not-send="true">Gemini 2</a>, which will find and
        delete duplicate files on your Mac. (You can also run it on the
        external hard drive to get rid of duplicates there).</div>
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      <div class="">5. <a
href="https://cleanmymac.macpaw.com/20?campaign=cmmx_search_text_brand_us&ci=105095406&adgroupid=15565330806&adpos=1t1&ck=cleanmymac%203&targetid=kwd-111733657446&match=%7Bif:e%7D&gnetwork=g&creative=197446344603&placement=&placecat=&accname=cmm&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjO-Yi6ro5gIVCmyGCh2qHQPzEAAYASAAEgKZhvD_BwE"
          class="" moz-do-not-send="true">Clean My Mac</a> is another
        very good app that gets rid of lots of built-up “system junk"
        and other files you don’t need. It’s good for regular
        maintenance and will often create a huge amount of space. </div>
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      <div class="">6. Go to Settings > iCloud and set it to hold
        your photos in the cloud so they are not taking up space on your
        Mac. You can get 50gb of storage for a dollar a month, or 200gb
        for $3/month. You can also store other files (documents, etc) in
        the cloud. You will see small versions of the photos in the
        Photos app, but they won’t be taking up so much space and they
        will be safer in the cloud, too.</div>
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      <div class="">7. You might need help getting rid of the duplicate
        accounts, since the apps mentioned above will only check one
        account at a time. If you make an appointment at the Apple store
        it won’t cost you anything.</div>
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      <div class="">8. Once you have your machine in good order,
        duplicate files gone and large files moved to the backup drive,
        you want to keep things orderly. Maybe you want to buy a second
        2 TB hard drive and use Disk Utility to split it into two
        virtual drives. Use one half for Time Machine backups and use
        the other for occasional Super Duper backups of your Mac. The
        Apple store might be able to help with this, too.</div>
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      <div class="">Most people are terrible at backing up their stuff.
        Here’s a <a
          href="https://www.backblaze.com/blog/the-3-2-1-backup-strategy/"
          class="" moz-do-not-send="true">basic approach</a>.</div>
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      <div class="">Good luck!</div>
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                class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span
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                  [Hidden-tech] halp ......so many duplicate files</b><br
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                class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span
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                Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">January 3, 2020 at
                9:26:17 AM EST<br class="">
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              <p class="">I am dealing with a similar case now, and a
                warning - Time machine requires a good bit of working
                space <br class="">
                SO if you are having space issues, time machine will not
                work even incrementally.</p>
              <p class="">As 2nd drive is the best solution. There are
                various 'diff' versions that can do bulk and
                sub-directory comparisons.<br class="">
                Well worth having.</p>
              <p class="">Also, I have found switching from iPhoto to
                Photo appears to leave a large number of complex working
                files,<br class="">
                sorting that out now.</p>
              <p class="">In general, images and worse videos is what
                fills up a disk, it takes 1000's of documents to take
                the same place as one video.<br class="">
                Also, if the older machine backup includes system images
                and/or downloaded installers (usually many copies) <br
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                those can be deleted - they are of no use.</p>
              <p class="">Advanced technical help is often very warned,
                think about it - few people have a car without regular
                use of a shop.<br class="">
                Computers are equally or more complex.<br class="">
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              <p class="">Good luck<br class="">
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              <p class="">Rich<br class="">
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/3/2020 8:10 AM, Hai
                Nguyen Ly via Hidden-discuss wrote:<br class="">
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                <div class="">Hi Elyssa:</div>
                <div class="">I highly recommend starting the process by
                  making a time machine backup of your newest MacBook
                  using an external drive. Once this is done, I would
                  make a bootable copy of your MacBook drive using
                  software such as Super Duper or Carbon Copy Cloner.
                  Once the bootable drive has been created, you might
                  consider booting from this drive to verify that works.
                  Once this bootable drive has been verified, shut down
                  your mac and disconnect any attached drives. After the
                  attached drives have been disconnected, you can power
                  back on the machine and start deleting user's and
                  contents to free up space with the knowledge that you
                  have two backups just in case something goes sideways.
                  Regarding data backups, remember the mantra, two is
                  one and one is none.</div>
                <div class="">After you have freed up space on your
                  MacBook, use another external drive for active time
                  machine backups of your cleaned up Mac. Depending on
                  the importance of the data, it may be worth
                  considering keeping an encrypted bootable backup drive
                  in another location.</div>
                <div class="">I hope this helps a bit. Please feel free
                  to reach out off-list if you would like clarification
                  regarding any of the above.</div>
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                <div class="">Cordially:</div>
                <div class="">Hai Nguyen Ly</div>
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                    <div class="">On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:43 AM, Elyssa
                      Serrilli via Hidden-discuss <<a
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                          friends and neighbors,</div>
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                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A few
                          years ago, my old Macbook died.  Some nice
                          folks were able to "rescue the data", and put
                          it on my new Macbook.  They created a new user
                          to do this, and duplicate files of all my data
                          and apps.  Then my old new Macbook died.  Some
                          nice folks were able to "rescue the data", and
                          put it on my new new Macbook.  My new new
                          Macbook has three users on it, each with the
                          old old data 3 times, and the old data 2 times
                          and the new new data once.  This sucks. 
                          Almost all my memory is used up.</div>
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                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I tried
                          to download a duplicate file deleter app, but
                          I couldn't because I don't have enough memory
                          to download the one app, and I don't have a
                          recent enough version of Mac Os to download
                          the other.</div>
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                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">What
                          can I do?  I have kerzillions of files.  I
                          tried going through the list one by one using
                          a "Smart Folder", but I have over 12,000 just
                          jpgs.  I have an external hard drive... I
                          wonder if that could be put to good use in
                          this endeavor.</div>
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                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Oh good
                          techies of the valley... what do you know
                          about this? <3</div>
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