<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Hi Sam,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">It is a WordPress website. We haven't been able to download it on to my computer or a hard drive, because it is huge and we have tried everything including SSH. (not that I have any idea what I'm speaking about) Perhaps Sean on our IT team can speak to this. I was just going to have Dreamhost migrate it and hope for the best. We have a research database and it's just a very large site.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Thanks for letting us know about the plug-in Duplicator.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I thought I would see if I came across any others who had this experience through this list serve. I'm really not eager to do a class action suit. At the same time I have to do something. I would be very reluctant to let go of my domain name and actually another domain is registered there for another website I have, the same situation. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Thanks for your help!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">My best,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"> Joanna</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">Joanna Campe<br>Executive Director<br>Remineralize the Earth<br>152 South Street<br>Northampton, MA 01060 USA </font></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">Tel: 413-563-9938</font><div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">Skype: reminearth<br>Email: <a href="mailto:jcampe@remineralize.org" target="_blank">jcampe@remineralize.org</a><br><a href="http://www.remineralize.org" target="_blank">http://www.remineralize.org</a><div style="display:inline-block;width:16px;height:16px"> </div></font></div></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4"><div style="display:inline-block;width:16px;height:16px"><br></div></font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4" color="#000000"><b>Book</b></font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4" color="#000000">Geotherapy: Innovative Methods of Soil Fertility Restoration, Carbon Sequestration, and Reversing CO2 Increase</font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4"><a href="http://www.crcpress.com/product/isbn/9781466595392" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://www.crcpress.com/product/isbn/9781466595392</a> </font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div><font face="garamond, serif" size="4">Please support us on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/RTE" target="_blank">Patr</a></font><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><a href="https://www.patreon.com/RTE" target="_blank">e</a></span><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><a href="https://www.patreon.com/RTE" target="_blank">on</a>.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:11 PM Sam McClellan <<a href="mailto:sam@itabix.com">sam@itabix.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi Joanna,<br>
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For cloning your website, what platform is it? WordPress is easy
to copy with a plugin, HTML is easy to copy with a program that
downloads the website to your computer and then you can FTP it up
to the new server. Other platforms would require more research or
someone with expertise in that platform - if it's a PHP based
site, that's pretty much impossible without access to the server
so you can grab the content but then you need to rebuild the
pages. <br>
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The one person I worked with didn't end up owning the domain
themselves so they went the route of getting a new domain name.
They had admin access to their WordPress site so w</font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif">e were able to grab the site</font> using a plugin
called Duplicator. <br>
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I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that it would help to get
together with other victims as a class action suit, and also to
demand help from ICANN which often doesn't get involved in these
sort of issues, hopefully that's not true in this case. The
benefits of a class action suit are that the costs are spread
amongst a large group, and a large group has a lot more clout than
an individual or small company.<br>
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Best of luck!<br>
Sam<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">Thank you
for the suggestions! I am immediately passing this on to my
IT team to see what could be done.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I have
already registered a new domain name with Dreamhost this
afternoon. I had already set up an account with them
thinking I wouldn't have a problem migrating my website
and then realizing what had happened and that I was not
able to get the authorization code at that time. I am
trying to move everything along because it seemed like I
am going to have to clone the website. So I'm waiting </span><font size="4"><font face="garamond, times new roman, serif">for <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Dreamhost</span> to </font><font face="garamond, serif">get back to me and then I will
need to pursue getting my domain back.</font></font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><font face="garamond, serif">I would be very happy to know
about any other's experience with legally trying to
wrest domain ownership back. I was thinking of going to
Small Claims Court. Would I need to do a class action
suit? We have a very modest budget, and this sounds
expensive and time-consuming. Nevertheless, I don't
want to lose my domain.</font></font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="garamond,
serif">I registered my domain with them because I wanted
to support a local co-op in the community and that was
decades ago. Because they do not host me, I did not
realize what was going on until recently.</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><font face="garamond, serif">My best,</font></font></div>
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Campe<br>
Executive Director<br>
Remineralize the Earth<br>
152 South Street<br>
Northampton, MA 01060 USA </font></div>
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PM Sam McClellan via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>>
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sans-serif">Hi Joanna!<br>
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We tried to help with retrieving another Gaia victim's
domain but theirs was not in their name so they had no
recourse. As long as your domain isn't private, you can
see the owner and admin email by entering the domain here:<br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.internic.net/whois.html" target="_blank">https://www.internic.net/whois.html</a><br>
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If you are the domain owner, you should ultimately be able
to get the domain back but it may take some time. Gaia is
a top level registrar, right under ICANN, so you could try
contacting them. <br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/customer-support-2015-06-22-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/customer-support-2015-06-22-en</a><br>
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It would probably be a good idea for someone to organize a
class action suit, then you'd have more leverage with
ICANN.<br>
<br>
This will probably take time so I do think you should
register a new domain. We offer domain names for
$12.95/year.<br>
<br>
As far as the website, if it's an HTML site or a WordPress
site with admin access, we should be able to retrieve it
without having access to the Gaia control panel, and we'd
be happy to host you for free for the first three months.
<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Sam<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I
have just joined this list serve to see if I can get
more information on Gaia Host. We are not able to
change the plan of our website or migrate it without
an authorization code and we have not been able to get
the domains transferred either.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I
have been advised by my hosting service that in order
to be able to transfer the domain successfully, I need
to take them to court. Has anyone in the community
done that so far and with what success?</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I
have been told that I have two choices: take Gaia Host
to court (small claims court?) or to create a new
domain and clone the website until the issue can be
resolved. Both of these are time consuming and
meanwhile I have put off my fundraising campaign until
the performance of the website can be improved by
migrating it to a new plan.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">I
appreciate advice on this.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large">My
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