<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+1 for SimilarWeb. Use the Chrome extension. Also, try <a href="https://www.spyfu.com/" class="">SpyFu</a>, their free plan is pretty comprehensive.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 22, 2019, at 7:03 AM, Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" class="">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">The freemium version of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://semrush.com/" class="">SEMrush.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>has traffic estimates too.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="">Over the years occasionally I checked its estimates with the traffic of my firm's bigger clients as shown by Google Analytics, and the estimates we're quite far off. I just put on my todo list to do the same check for similarweb, though that todo list's height grazes the moon, so my team probably won't get to it for several weeks, in part because such information is rarely central to my firm's work.<br class=""></span><div class=""> <br class=""></div><div class="">This opens to the more general topic that the accuracy of the reports produced by digital marketing tool suites that are under $3,000/mo, and some that over that cost, have major inaccuracies. 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Hidden-Tech Tech <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" class="">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Hidden-tech] With Alexa no longer useful, where do you get traffic info on a site?</font><div class=""> </div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">No, actually seeing how much traffic their sites get is part of what goes into my marketing recommendations to my clients.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for clarifying.<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size: small;" class=""><br class="">Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm)</div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">________________________________________________</div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk,</div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">"Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"</div><div style="font-size: small;" class=""><font color="#1155cc" size="2" class=""><u class=""><a href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);" class="">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a></u></font><font color="#1155cc" size="2" class=""><u class=""><a href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></a></u></font><br class=""><div style="font-size: small;" class="">(move your mouse to "event videos")</div></div><div style="font-size: small;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, <br class=""></div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change</div><div style="font-size: small;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">Twitter: @shelhorowitz</div><div style="font-size: small;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">* First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified</div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">* Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame</div><div style="font-size: small;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: small;" class=""><a href="http://goingbeyondsustainability.com/" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);" class="">http://goingbeyondsustainability.com</a> </div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">mailto:<a href="mailto:shel@greenandprofitable.com" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);" class="">shel@greenandprofitable.com</a> * <a href="tel:413-586-2388" value="+14135862388" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);" class="">413-586-2388</a></div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:</div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)<br class=""></div><div style="font-size: small;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-size: small;" class="">_________________________________________________</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:47 PM Robert Heller <<a href="mailto:heller@deepsoft.com" class="">heller@deepsoft.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="x_gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">At Tue, 20 Aug 2019 22:12:38 -0400 Shel Horowitz <<a href="mailto:shel@principledprofit.com" target="_blank" class="">shel@principledprofit.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Thanks! Robert and Max I will check out similarweb. I have the tab open and<br class="">> will look at, it probably tomorrow. Paul, I didn't know Goolge Anaytics<br class="">> could work on a site you don't own. How does one do that?<br class=""><br class="">Oh, it doesn't... I just assumed it was your site...<br class=""><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm)<br class="">> ________________________________________________<br class="">> Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk,<br class="">> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"<br class="">> *<a href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a><br class="">> <<a href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a>>**<br class="">> <<a href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a>>*<br class="">> (move your mouse to "event videos")<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger,<br class="">> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Twitter: @shelhorowitz<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified<br class="">> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://goingbeyondsustainability.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://goingbeyondsustainability.com</a><br class="">> mailto:<a href="mailto:shel@greenandprofitable.com" target="_blank" class="">shel@greenandprofitable.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>* 413-586-2388<br class="">> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:<br class="">> Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> _________________________________________________<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:00 AM Max Hartshorne <<a href="mailto:editorial@gonomad.com" target="_blank" class="">editorial@gonomad.com</a>><br class="">> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.similarweb.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">www.similarweb.com</a><br class="">> ><br class="">> > -----------------------<br class="">> ><br class="">> > Max Hartshorne<br class="">> ><br class="">> > Editor<br class="">> ><br class="">> > <a href="http://GoNOMAD.com" class="">GoNOMAD.com</a> Travel<br class="">> ><br class="">> > P.O. Box 4<br class="">> ><br class="">> > 9 Mountain Rd.<br class="">> ><br class="">> > South Deerfield, MA 01373<br class="">> ><br class="">> > 413-624-6640<br class="">> ><br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.gonomad.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">www.gonomad.com</a><br class="">> ><br class="">> > <<a href="https://www.gonomad.com/3500-writers-guidelines-gonomad-travel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.gonomad.com/3500-writers-guidelines-gonomad-travel</a>><br class="">> ><br class="">> > Writer's Guidelines<br class="">> > <<a href="https://www.gonomad.com/3500-writers-guidelines-gonomad-travel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://www.gonomad.com/3500-writers-guidelines-gonomad-travel</a>><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> > My One minute. video about <<a href="http://youtu.be/FlH08PisCkg?a" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://youtu.be/FlH08PisCkg?a</a>><br class="">> ><br class="">> > Content Marketing <<a href="http://youtu.be/FlH08PisCkg?a" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://youtu.be/FlH08PisCkg?a</a>><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> ><br class="">> > -----Original Message-----<br class="">> > From: "Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss" <<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank" class="">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>><br class="">> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 12:12pm<br class="">> > To: "Hidden-Tech Tech" <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank" class="">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>><br class="">> > Subject: [Hidden-tech] With Alexa no longer useful, where do you get<br class="">> > traffic info on a site?<br class="">> ><br class="">> > Back in the old days, if I wanted to get a sense of a site's popularity, I<br class="">> > went to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://alexa.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">alexa.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and typed in the URL. Now what I get is an offer of a<br class="">> > freebie trial. What no-cost tools are folks using to determine numbers of<br class="">> > visitors?<br class="">> > Thanks, as always.<br class="">> ><br class="">> > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm)<br class="">> > ________________________________________________<br class="">> > Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk,<br class="">> > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a><br class="">> > <<a href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a>><br class="">> > (move your mouse to "event videos")<br class="">> > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger,<br class="">> > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change<br class="">> > Twitter: @shelhorowitz<br class="">> > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified<br class="">> > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame<br class="">> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://goingbeyondsustainability.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://goingbeyondsustainability.com</a><br class="">> > mailto:<a href="mailto:shel@greenandprofitable.com" target="_blank" class="">shel@greenandprofitable.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>* 413-586-2388<br class="">> > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. 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