<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The Apple fix presumably self-installs, but I manually updated Zoom to run the patch. They fixed the most critical vulnerability and another update is expected this weekend.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Zach<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 11, 2019, at 12:40 PM, ed--- via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" class="">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Does the fix self-install like some Microsoft updates, or do we need to go to Zoom for the update?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Ed<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces@lists.hidden-tech.net" class="">hidden-discuss-bounces@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Elijah Gwynn via Hidden-discuss<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:22 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Val Nelson <<a href="mailto:val@valnelson.com" class="">val@valnelson.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>PeopleFirst Tech <<a href="mailto:zach@peoplefirst.tech" class="">zach@peoplefirst.tech</a>>; Discussion List <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" class="">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Hidden-tech] Major security flaw in Zoom<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Amazingly Apple<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><em class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">also</span></em><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>released a fix — silently — which disables the Zoom web server even on Macs that haven't installed the Zoom patch.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/10/apple-silent-update-zoom-app/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(57, 131, 196);" class="">https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/10/apple-silent-update-zoom-app/</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Eli<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">On 11 Jul 2019, at 0:42, Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: rgb(119, 119, 119); padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 3.75pt;" class="" type="cite"><div id="44D2FA5A-7EB9-4935-B81D-5159B70DF8A5" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">The update alert showed up when I went in today and the switch was easy and it works great. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">~Val<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">..........................................<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><a href="https://valnelson.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://ValNelson.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">(Sent from phone. Please pardon brevity or typos. Thanks.)</span></i><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><br class="">On Jul 10, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Michael Klatsky via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Zach -<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Thanks for sending that along. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">For those who need to use Zoom- an update has been released:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><a href="https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2019/07/08/response-to-video-on-concern/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2019/07/08/response-to-video-on-concern/</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">---</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Sincerely,</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Michael Klatsky</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Devops and Technical Services</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">MapuTech</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><p class="airmailon" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">On July 10, 2019 at 1:57:01 PM, PeopleFirst Tech via Hidden-discuss (<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>) wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Have you used the popular Zoom platform for videoconferencing or screen sharing? We primarily don't, but recent security flaws uncovered on Zoom lead us to suggest that you uninstall it (instructions courtesy of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nicolenguyen/zoom-webcam-hacker-watching-you-vulnerability" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">BuzzFeed</a>). <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Further reading: <a href="https://medium.com/bugbountywriteup/zoom-zero-day-4-million-webcams-maybe-an-rce-just-get-them-to-visit-your-website-ac75c83f4ef5" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://medium.com/bugbountywriteup/zoom-zero-day-4-million-webcams-maybe-an-rce-just-get-them-to-visit-your-website-ac75c83f4ef5</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin-left: 30pt; margin-right: 0in;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><h2 style="margin: 1.7rem; font-size: 18pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; box-sizing: inherit;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">What to Do About It</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></h2></div></div><div class=""><p style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 1.7rem;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Go to Zoom settings > Video, and under Meetings, enable “Turn off my video when joining a meeting.”</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 1.7rem;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">OR</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 1.7rem;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Get rid of the Zoom desktop app entirely. If you want to get ahead of Zoom’s patch, which the company said will be released by midnight tonight, first you need to shut down the web server. Open the application called Terminal. Copy and paste this text: lsof -i :19421. Press enter. You’ll get a string of mumbo jumbo. Underneath the text “PID,” copy the string of numbers. Then type “kill -9” (without the quotes), add a space after -9, and paste the PID string of numbers. Press enter. The server has been killed.</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><p style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 1.7rem;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">Drag the Zoom app, along with a folder titled “.zoomus,” to the trash can. Then hover over the trash can, and press CONTROL and click your mouse simultaneously. Empty the trash can. Boom.</span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-stretch: normal; min-height: 14px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(122, 122, 122);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, 119, 119);" class="">— — —<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(96, 96, 96);" class="">Zach Fried</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(96, 96, 96);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-stretch: normal;" class=""><u class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; 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