From jeff at rubberneck.net  Wed Nov  6 22:47:53 2024
From: jeff at rubberneck.net (Jeff Mackler)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 17:47:53 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ubiquiti consultant
Message-ID: <CADgot01KPaLii80FKF3X_AQprRemxZuWropNnenQ3nnZz4tJSQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
I?m looking for a local Ubiquiti/unifi consultant to help with a business
network set up. I probably need just a few hours. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Jeff




Jeff Mackler
MRW Connected, Inc
c: 413.265.0900
o: 413.282.1000
www.mrw.bz

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
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From rich at tnrglobal.com  Wed Nov  6 23:16:59 2024
From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 18:16:59 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ubiquiti consultant
In-Reply-To: <CADgot01KPaLii80FKF3X_AQprRemxZuWropNnenQ3nnZz4tJSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADgot01KPaLii80FKF3X_AQprRemxZuWropNnenQ3nnZz4tJSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5b2673ad-f0f8-41b5-83e0-8a987253cc72@tnrglobal.com>

Where is office and how big of a mesh you want to develop ?
Any special issues of location ?

On 11/6/2024 5:47 PM, Jeff Mackler via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> Hi all,
> I?m looking for a local Ubiquiti/unifi consultant to help with a 
> business network set up. I probably need just a few hours. Any 
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> Jeff Mackler
> MRW Connected, Inc
> c:?413.265.0900
> o: 413.282.1000
> www.mrw.bz <http://www.mrw.bz>
>
> "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
>
> _______________________________________________
>
-- 
Rich Roth
CEO TnR Global

Bio and personal blog:http://rizbang.com
Building the really big sites:http://www.tnrglobal.com
Small/Soho business in the PV:http://www.hidden-tech.net
Places to meet for business:http://www.meetmewhere.com
And for Arts and relaxation:
http://TarotMuertos.com  - Artistic Tarot Deck
    http://www.welovemuseums.com
    http://www.artonmytv.com/
Shakers:http://www.shakerpedia.com/
Helping move the world:http://www.earththrives.com
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From jeff at rubberneck.net  Thu Nov  7 19:45:20 2024
From: jeff at rubberneck.net (Jeff Mackler)
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 19:45:20 +0000
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ubiquiti consultant
In-Reply-To: <5b2673ad-f0f8-41b5-83e0-8a987253cc72@tnrglobal.com>
References: <CADgot01KPaLii80FKF3X_AQprRemxZuWropNnenQ3nnZz4tJSQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <5b2673ad-f0f8-41b5-83e0-8a987253cc72@tnrglobal.com>
Message-ID: <c036adcc-07d9-6ff0-fdcb-30a4e37b82e7@rubberneck.net>

It's in Northampton. It's a few AP's, a switch, and a router. There are some
unique?challenges, but nothing really complicated.





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On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 6:17?PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss
<hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:


> Where is office and how big of a mesh you want to develop ?
> Any special issues of location ?
> 
> 
> On 11/6/2024 5:47 PM, Jeff Mackler via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > I?m looking for a local Ubiquiti/unifi consultant to help with a business
> > network set up. I probably need just a few hours. Any suggestions??
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jeff Mackler
> > MRW Connected, Inc
> > c:?413.265.0900
> > o: 413.282.1000
> > www.mrw.bz [http://www.mrw.bz]
> > 
> > 
> > "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> 
> -- 
> Rich Roth
> CEO TnR Global
> 
> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.comhttp://rizbang.com
> Building the really big sites:      http://www.tnrglobal.comhttp://www.tnrglobal.com
> Small/Soho business in the PV:        http://www.hidden-tech.nethttp://www.hidden-tech.net
> Places to meet for business:        http://www.meetmewhere.comhttp://www.meetmewhere.com
> And for Arts and relaxation:
> http://TarotMuertos.comhttp://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck
>    http://www.welovemuseums.comhttp://www.welovemuseums.com
>    http://www.artonmytv.com/http://www.artonmytv.com/
> Shakers: http://www.shakerpedia.com/http://www.shakerpedia.com/
> Helping move the world:             http://www.earththrives.comhttp://www.earththrives.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From alan at 8wheels.org  Sat Nov  9 03:39:39 2024
From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank)
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2024 22:39:39 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
Message-ID: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>

Hidden Techers,

I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst.  For many years, I 
had no problems with their wifi.  However, in July, I started getting 
connection errors for most web sites.  For example:

This site can?t be reached
https://www.washingtonpost.com/ is unreachable.
Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE

This site can?t be reached
Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.
If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others.  I 
could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.

I can access https://www.bridgebase.com/, but when I follow the links to 
log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it fails.  
Perhaps the home page is cached?

Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows 
laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi.  None of 
the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from home 
or from other public wifi networks.  I also spoke with another Cushman 
customer.  He said that he didn't have any trouble, though when he tried 
then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same message.  At my 
request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that is unreachable for 
me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich home page.

I reached out to the owner of Cushman.  She said that she didn't have 
any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking 
any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not 
sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have 
direct knowledge that she was using the same network.

One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop, 
though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years.  There 
are a couple of ways to do that.  One is through a URL, but of course I 
can't access that.  Another is to use Windows App.  When I tried 
installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I wasn't 
connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can navigate the 
store itself just fine.  I installed it later from home and will try it 
out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point may not be for a 
while.

I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to 
investigate or resolve this issue.

--Alan

From knowuh at gmail.com  Sat Nov  9 15:45:07 2024
From: knowuh at gmail.com (Noah Paessel)
Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 10:45:07 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
References: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <F61B4FF8-9651-4356-85B7-E941CA09FC9B@gmail.com>

Hi Alan,

I subscribe to a commercial VPN service. I generally have it turned on unless I am at home. There are many to choose from, and many blog posts compare these commercial offerings. Nord VPN is constantly given high
Marks, also Proton. These are usually affordable.

Lately I have also been using TailScale for more nerdy reasons. Note that this solution won?t do what you want at Cushman ?out of the box? ? but you could configure it to do so pretty easily. It?s an amazing service especially if you want to be able to access your private infrastructure from anywhere. The free tier is very generous.

And boy do I love Cushman ! ??

Good luck!

Noah

> On Nov 9, 2024, at 10:16?AM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hidden Techers,
> 
> I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst.  For many years, I had no problems with their wifi.  However, in July, I started getting connection errors for most web sites.  For example:
> 
> This site can?t be reached
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/ is unreachable.
> Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
> 
> This site can?t be reached
> Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.
> If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
> 
> I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others.  I could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.
> 
> I can access https://www.bridgebase.com/, but when I follow the links to log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it fails.  Perhaps the home page is cached?
> 
> Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi.  None of the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from home or from other public wifi networks.  I also spoke with another Cushman customer.  He said that he didn't have any trouble, though when he tried then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same message.  At my request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that is unreachable for me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich home page.
> 
> I reached out to the owner of Cushman.  She said that she didn't have any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have direct knowledge that she was using the same network.
> 
> One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop, though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years.  There are a couple of ways to do that.  One is through a URL, but of course I can't access that.  Another is to use Windows App.  When I tried installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I wasn't connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can navigate the store itself just fine.  I installed it later from home and will try it out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point may not be for a while.
> 
> I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to investigate or resolve this issue.
> 
> --Alan
> _______________________________________________
> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> 
> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.
> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
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From alan at 8wheels.org  Sun Nov 10 20:58:09 2024
From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 15:58:09 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <F61B4FF8-9651-4356-85B7-E941CA09FC9B@gmail.com>
References: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
 <F61B4FF8-9651-4356-85B7-E941CA09FC9B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12edc51a27bd0fa740589842f1e19159@8wheels.org>

Noah,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not clear on how it would help me.  
My workplace already has VPN access; I'm sure they're not going to want 
to host a second one just so that I can access personal websites from 
Cushman.  Or does the VPN have Tor-like capability to tunnel to those 
sites without the need to configure a host?  Or am I misunderstanding 
entirely?

Also, while a solution that I can set up on my own laptop would be 
appreciated, I am hoping to be altruistic and find a way to solve this 
problem for everyone, so each Cushman patron doesn't need to install 
their own copy of third-party software.

--Alan


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
Date: 2024-11-09 10:45
 From: Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>
To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>

Hi Alan,

I subscribe to a commercial VPN service. I generally have it turned on 
unless I am at home. There are many to choose from, and many blog posts 
compare these commercial offerings. Nord VPN is constantly given high
Marks, also Proton. These are usually affordable.

Lately I have also been using TailScale for more nerdy reasons. Note 
that this solution won?t do what you want at Cushman ?out of the box? ? 
but you could configure it to do so pretty easily. It?s an amazing 
service especially if you want to be able to access your private 
infrastructure from anywhere. The free tier is very generous.

And boy do I love Cushman ! ??

Good luck!

Noah

> On Nov 9, 2024, at 10:16?AM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss 
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hidden Techers,
> 
> I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst.  For many years, I 
> had no problems with their wifi.  However, in July, I started getting 
> connection errors for most web sites.  For example:
> 
> This site can?t be reached
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/ is unreachable.
> Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
> 
> This site can?t be reached
> Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.
> If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
> 
> I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others.  I 
> could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.
> 
> I can access https://www.bridgebase.com/, but when I follow the links 
> to log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it fails.  
> Perhaps the home page is cached?
> 
> Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows 
> laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi.  None of 
> the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from 
> home or from other public wifi networks.  I also spoke with another 
> Cushman customer.  He said that he didn't have any trouble, though when 
> he tried then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same message.  
> At my request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that is 
> unreachable for me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich home 
> page.
> 
> I reached out to the owner of Cushman.  She said that she didn't have 
> any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking 
> any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not 
> sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have 
> direct knowledge that she was using the same network.
> 
> One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop, 
> though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years.  
> There are a couple of ways to do that.  One is through a URL, but of 
> course I can't access that.  Another is to use Windows App.  When I 
> tried installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I 
> wasn't connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can 
> navigate the store itself just fine.  I installed it later from home 
> and will try it out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point 
> may not be for a while.
> 
> I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to 
> investigate or resolve this issue.
> 
> --Alan
> _______________________________________________
> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> 
> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion 
> list.
> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
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From tek at acm.org  Sun Nov 10 22:18:38 2024
From: tek at acm.org (Tom Kopec)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:18:38 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <12edc51a27bd0fa740589842f1e19159@8wheels.org>
References: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
 <F61B4FF8-9651-4356-85B7-E941CA09FC9B@gmail.com>
 <12edc51a27bd0fa740589842f1e19159@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <01f4fefe-9932-4766-add0-ce2427097917@acm.org>

This kinda feels like DNS mishegas to me..

I wonder if you can force your client onto a public DNS and see if that 
works better (I forget what client OS you're running)

...tom

On 11/10/2024 3:58 PM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> Noah,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not clear on how it would help me.? 
> My workplace already has VPN access; I'm sure they're not going to 
> want to host a second one just so that I can access personal websites 
> from Cushman.? Or does the VPN have Tor-like capability to tunnel to 
> those sites without the need to configure a host?? Or am I 
> misunderstanding entirely?
>
> Also, while a solution that I can set up on my own laptop would be 
> appreciated, I am hoping to be altruistic and find a way to solve this 
> problem for everyone, so each Cushman patron doesn't need to install 
> their own copy of third-party software.
>
> --Alan
>
>

From dstevens at tryandfindit.com  Sun Nov 10 22:25:18 2024
From: dstevens at tryandfindit.com (Donald M Stevens)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 22:25:18 +0000
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <12edc51a27bd0fa740589842f1e19159@8wheels.org>
References: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
 <F61B4FF8-9651-4356-85B7-E941CA09FC9B@gmail.com>
 <12edc51a27bd0fa740589842f1e19159@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <SJ2PR05MB9633DC1AABAF576F751C3D3BB15F2@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Alan

What O.S. are you using,
Mac or PC ?

I assume you will get a dynamic IP address when at Cushman....

Are you using a static or dynamic IP address at home?

If you could send your IP configuration when at Cushman (where all urls don't work)

And

Your IP address configuration when at home where it sounds like all urls do work.

I can tell you how to do this if you aren't sure how.

Feel free to contact me off HT if you wish.

860.614.4153

This was sent from my smart phone so message may be brief, Don
________________________________
From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> on behalf of Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2024 3:58:09 PM
To: Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>
Cc: Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery

Noah,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not clear on how it would help me.
My workplace already has VPN access; I'm sure they're not going to want
to host a second one just so that I can access personal websites from
Cushman.  Or does the VPN have Tor-like capability to tunnel to those
sites without the need to configure a host?  Or am I misunderstanding
entirely?

Also, while a solution that I can set up on my own laptop would be
appreciated, I am hoping to be altruistic and find a way to solve this
problem for everyone, so each Cushman patron doesn't need to install
their own copy of third-party software.

--Alan


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
Date: 2024-11-09 10:45
 From: Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>
To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>

Hi Alan,

I subscribe to a commercial VPN service. I generally have it turned on
unless I am at home. There are many to choose from, and many blog posts
compare these commercial offerings. Nord VPN is constantly given high
Marks, also Proton. These are usually affordable.

Lately I have also been using TailScale for more nerdy reasons. Note
that this solution won?t do what you want at Cushman ?out of the box? ?
but you could configure it to do so pretty easily. It?s an amazing
service especially if you want to be able to access your private
infrastructure from anywhere. The free tier is very generous.

And boy do I love Cushman ! ??

Good luck!

Noah

> On Nov 9, 2024, at 10:16?AM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
> ?Hidden Techers,
>
> I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst.  For many years, I
> had no problems with their wifi.  However, in July, I started getting
> connection errors for most web sites.  For example:
>
> This site can?t be reached
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/ is unreachable.
> Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
>
> This site can?t be reached
> Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.
> If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
>
> I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others.  I
> could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.
>
> I can access https://www.bridgebase.com/, but when I follow the links
> to log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it fails.
> Perhaps the home page is cached?
>
> Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows
> laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi.  None of
> the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from
> home or from other public wifi networks.  I also spoke with another
> Cushman customer.  He said that he didn't have any trouble, though when
> he tried then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same message.
> At my request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that is
> unreachable for me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich home
> page.
>
> I reached out to the owner of Cushman.  She said that she didn't have
> any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking
> any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not
> sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have
> direct knowledge that she was using the same network.
>
> One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop,
> though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years.
> There are a couple of ways to do that.  One is through a URL, but of
> course I can't access that.  Another is to use Windows App.  When I
> tried installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I
> wasn't connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can
> navigate the store itself just fine.  I installed it later from home
> and will try it out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point
> may not be for a while.
>
> I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to
> investigate or resolve this issue.
>
> --Alan
> _______________________________________________
> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>
> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion
> list.
> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.
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From dstevens at tryandfindit.com  Sun Nov 10 22:33:11 2024
From: dstevens at tryandfindit.com (Donald M Stevens)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 22:33:11 +0000
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <12edc51a27bd0fa740589842f1e19159@8wheels.org>
References: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
 <F61B4FF8-9651-4356-85B7-E941CA09FC9B@gmail.com>
 <12edc51a27bd0fa740589842f1e19159@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <SJ2PR05MB963300CE869F8AA3417AC083B15F2@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Alan, sorry I see Window OS....

Run
"cmd"
Brings you to command line
Type
"ipconfig <space> /all"

Send me or group the results....

I believe you can add after
all
a space
then
>c:\filename txt

This will save the info to a file




This was sent from my smart phone so message may be brief, Don
________________________________
From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> on behalf of Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2024 3:58:09 PM
To: Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>
Cc: Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery

Noah,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not clear on how it would help me.
My workplace already has VPN access; I'm sure they're not going to want
to host a second one just so that I can access personal websites from
Cushman.  Or does the VPN have Tor-like capability to tunnel to those
sites without the need to configure a host?  Or am I misunderstanding
entirely?

Also, while a solution that I can set up on my own laptop would be
appreciated, I am hoping to be altruistic and find a way to solve this
problem for everyone, so each Cushman patron doesn't need to install
their own copy of third-party software.

--Alan


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
Date: 2024-11-09 10:45
 From: Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>
To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>

Hi Alan,

I subscribe to a commercial VPN service. I generally have it turned on
unless I am at home. There are many to choose from, and many blog posts
compare these commercial offerings. Nord VPN is constantly given high
Marks, also Proton. These are usually affordable.

Lately I have also been using TailScale for more nerdy reasons. Note
that this solution won?t do what you want at Cushman ?out of the box? ?
but you could configure it to do so pretty easily. It?s an amazing
service especially if you want to be able to access your private
infrastructure from anywhere. The free tier is very generous.

And boy do I love Cushman ! ??

Good luck!

Noah

> On Nov 9, 2024, at 10:16?AM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
> ?Hidden Techers,
>
> I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst.  For many years, I
> had no problems with their wifi.  However, in July, I started getting
> connection errors for most web sites.  For example:
>
> This site can?t be reached
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/ is unreachable.
> Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
>
> This site can?t be reached
> Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.
> If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
>
> I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others.  I
> could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.
>
> I can access https://www.bridgebase.com/, but when I follow the links
> to log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it fails.
> Perhaps the home page is cached?
>
> Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows
> laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi.  None of
> the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from
> home or from other public wifi networks.  I also spoke with another
> Cushman customer.  He said that he didn't have any trouble, though when
> he tried then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same message.
> At my request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that is
> unreachable for me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich home
> page.
>
> I reached out to the owner of Cushman.  She said that she didn't have
> any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking
> any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not
> sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have
> direct knowledge that she was using the same network.
>
> One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop,
> though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years.
> There are a couple of ways to do that.  One is through a URL, but of
> course I can't access that.  Another is to use Windows App.  When I
> tried installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I
> wasn't connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can
> navigate the store itself just fine.  I installed it later from home
> and will try it out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point
> may not be for a while.
>
> I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to
> investigate or resolve this issue.
>
> --Alan
> _______________________________________________
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> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
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From dstevens at tryandfindit.com  Mon Nov 11 16:17:58 2024
From: dstevens at tryandfindit.com (Donald M Stevens)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:17:58 +0000
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <SJ2PR05MB963300CE869F8AA3417AC083B15F2@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
 <F61B4FF8-9651-4356-85B7-E941CA09FC9B@gmail.com>
 <12edc51a27bd0fa740589842f1e19159@8wheels.org>
 <SJ2PR05MB963300CE869F8AA3417AC083B15F2@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <SJ2PR05MB96337852D9A26F7D31D3E983B1582@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Alan,


  1.  You ARE NOT USING your VPN while at Cushman?s, correct?
     *   It is turned off?
     *   You are just connecting to the Cushman WiFi and can?t get to these websites, correct?

Thanks,
don

Don Stevens
TFI technologies
329 Pease Road
East Longmeadow, MA 01028
Cell / Text: 860.614.4153
Email: dstevens at tryandfindit.com

From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> On Behalf Of Donald M Stevens via Hidden-discuss
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2024 5:33 PM
To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>; Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>
Cc: Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery

Hi Alan, sorry I see Window OS....

Run
"cmd"
Brings you to command line
Type
"ipconfig <space> /all"

Send me or group the results....

I believe you can add after
all
a space
then
>c:\filename txt

This will save the info to a file




This was sent from my smart phone so message may be brief, Don
________________________________
From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net<mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net>> on behalf of Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net<mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2024 3:58:09 PM
To: Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com<mailto:knowuh at gmail.com>>
Cc: Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net<mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery

Noah,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not clear on how it would help me.
My workplace already has VPN access; I'm sure they're not going to want
to host a second one just so that I can access personal websites from
Cushman.  Or does the VPN have Tor-like capability to tunnel to those
sites without the need to configure a host?  Or am I misunderstanding
entirely?

Also, while a solution that I can set up on my own laptop would be
appreciated, I am hoping to be altruistic and find a way to solve this
problem for everyone, so each Cushman patron doesn't need to install
their own copy of third-party software.

--Alan


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
Date: 2024-11-09 10:45
 From: Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com<mailto:knowuh at gmail.com>>
To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org<mailto:alan at 8wheels.org>>

Hi Alan,

I subscribe to a commercial VPN service. I generally have it turned on
unless I am at home. There are many to choose from, and many blog posts
compare these commercial offerings. Nord VPN is constantly given high
Marks, also Proton. These are usually affordable.

Lately I have also been using TailScale for more nerdy reasons. Note
that this solution won?t do what you want at Cushman ?out of the box? ?
but you could configure it to do so pretty easily. It?s an amazing
service especially if you want to be able to access your private
infrastructure from anywhere. The free tier is very generous.

And boy do I love Cushman ! ??

Good luck!

Noah

> On Nov 9, 2024, at 10:16?AM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net<mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote:
>
> ?Hidden Techers,
>
> I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst.  For many years, I
> had no problems with their wifi.  However, in July, I started getting
> connection errors for most web sites.  For example:
>
> This site can?t be reached
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/ is unreachable.
> Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
>
> This site can?t be reached
> Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.
> If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
>
> I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others.  I
> could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.
>
> I can access https://www.bridgebase.com/, but when I follow the links
> to log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it fails.
> Perhaps the home page is cached?
>
> Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows
> laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi.  None of
> the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from
> home or from other public wifi networks.  I also spoke with another
> Cushman customer.  He said that he didn't have any trouble, though when
> he tried then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same message.
> At my request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that is
> unreachable for me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich home
> page.
>
> I reached out to the owner of Cushman.  She said that she didn't have
> any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking
> any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not
> sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have
> direct knowledge that she was using the same network.
>
> One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop,
> though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years.
> There are a couple of ways to do that.  One is through a URL, but of
> course I can't access that.  Another is to use Windows App.  When I
> tried installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I
> wasn't connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can
> navigate the store itself just fine.  I installed it later from home
> and will try it out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point
> may not be for a while.
>
> I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to
> investigate or resolve this issue.
>
> --Alan
> _______________________________________________
> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net<mailto:Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
>
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From alan at 8wheels.org  Mon Nov 11 21:16:02 2024
From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:16:02 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <SJ2PR05MB96337852D9A26F7D31D3E983B1582@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
 <F61B4FF8-9651-4356-85B7-E941CA09FC9B@gmail.com>
 <12edc51a27bd0fa740589842f1e19159@8wheels.org>
 <SJ2PR05MB963300CE869F8AA3417AC083B15F2@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <128b56641acac03927edd5ee24506dde@8wheels.org>

That's correct.  Just ordinary attempts to access via Chrome & other 
browsers.

-------- Original Message --------

  		SUBJECT:
  		RE: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery

  		DATE:
  		2024-11-11 11:17

  		FROM:
  		Donald M Stevens <dstevens at tryandfindit.com>

  		TO:
  		Donald M Stevens <dstevens at tryandfindit.com>, Alan Frank 
<alan at 8wheels.org>, Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>

Hi Alan,

	* You ARE NOT USING your VPN while at Cushman's, correct?

  	* It is turned off?
  	* You are just connecting to the Cushman WiFi and can't get to these 
websites, correct?

Thanks,

don

Don Stevens

TFI technologies

329 Pease Road

East Longmeadow, MA 01028

Cell / Text: 860.614.4153

Email: dstevens at tryandfindit.com

 From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> On 
Behalf Of Donald M Stevens via Hidden-discuss
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2024 5:33 PM
To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>; Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>
Cc: Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery

Hi Alan, sorry I see Window OS....

Run

"cmd"

Brings you to command line

Type

"ipconfig <space> /all"

Send me or group the results....

I believe you can add after

all

a space

then

> c:\filename txt

This will save the info to a file

This was sent from my smart phone so message may be brief, Don

-------------------------

 From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> on 
behalf of Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss 
<hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2024 3:58:09 PM
To: Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>
Cc: Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery

Noah,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not clear on how it would help me.
My workplace already has VPN access; I'm sure they're not going to want
to host a second one just so that I can access personal websites from
Cushman.  Or does the VPN have Tor-like capability to tunnel to those
sites without the need to configure a host?  Or am I misunderstanding
entirely?

Also, while a solution that I can set up on my own laptop would be
appreciated, I am hoping to be altruistic and find a way to solve this
problem for everyone, so each Cushman patron doesn't need to install
their own copy of third-party software.

--Alan

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
Date: 2024-11-09 10:45
  From: Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>
To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>

Hi Alan,

I subscribe to a commercial VPN service. I generally have it turned on
unless I am at home. There are many to choose from, and many blog posts
compare these commercial offerings. Nord VPN is constantly given high
Marks, also Proton. These are usually affordable.

Lately I have also been using TailScale for more nerdy reasons. Note
that this solution won't do what you want at Cushman "out of the box" --
but you could configure it to do so pretty easily. It's an amazing
service especially if you want to be able to access your private
infrastructure from anywhere. The free tier is very generous.

And boy do I love Cushman ! ??

Good luck!

Noah

> On Nov 9, 2024, at 10:16?AM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
> Hidden Techers,
> 
> I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst.  For many years, I
> had no problems with their wifi.  However, in July, I started getting
> connection errors for most web sites.  For example:
> 
> This site can't be reached
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/ [1] is unreachable.
> Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
> 
> This site can't be reached
> Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.
> If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
> 
> I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others.  I
> could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.
> 
> I can access https://www.bridgebase.com/ [2], but when I follow the 
> links
> to log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it fails.
> Perhaps the home page is cached?
> 
> Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows
> laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi.  None of
> the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from
> home or from other public wifi networks.  I also spoke with another
> Cushman customer.  He said that he didn't have any trouble, though when
> he tried then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same message.
> At my request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that is
> unreachable for me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich home
> page.
> 
> I reached out to the owner of Cushman.  She said that she didn't have
> any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking
> any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not
> sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have
> direct knowledge that she was using the same network.
> 
> One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop,
> though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years.
> There are a couple of ways to do that.  One is through a URL, but of
> course I can't access that.  Another is to use Windows App.  When I
> tried installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I
> wasn't connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can
> navigate the store itself just fine.  I installed it later from home
> and will try it out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point
> may not be for a while.
> 
> I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to
> investigate or resolve this issue.
> 
> --Alan
> _______________________________________________
> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net [3]
> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> 
> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion
> list.
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> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.
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From RRoth at tnrglobal.com  Tue Nov 12 02:26:30 2024
From: RRoth at tnrglobal.com (Rich Roth)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:26:30 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1731377454.20245.hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net>
References: <mailman.0.1731377454.20245.hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net>
Message-ID: <1f06f4d5-98ad-4d2f-8c03-9358fa2fb4e9@tnrglobal.com>

Image suppressed (Don you know better) - contents below per my local lookup
Which in WashPost is different also, ..Base... is the same

To:
Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>
CC:
Noah Paessel <knowuh at gmail.com>, Hidden Tech 
<hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>


When you go to cushmans again Alan,

Try this,

 ?Go to the command line on your computer.

 ?Type the following and let me know what you see:
nslookup washingtonpost.com

 ?And
nslookup www.bridgebase.com <http://www.bridgebase.com>

Here is what I get from here:

 ?nslookup washingtonpost.com
Server:???????? 8.8.8.8
Address:??????? 8.8.8.8#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:?? washingtonpost.com
Address: 23.0.21.149

nslookup bridgebase.com

Server:???????? 8.8.8.8
Address:??????? 8.8.8.8#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:?? bridgebase.com
Address: 169.48.120.231
Name:?? bridgebase.com
Address: 150.238.134.8
Name:?? bridgebase.com
Address: 169.54.210.132




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From rich at tnrglobal.com  Tue Nov 12 02:32:56 2024
From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 21:32:56 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <1f06f4d5-98ad-4d2f-8c03-9358fa2fb4e9@tnrglobal.com>
References: <mailman.0.1731377454.20245.hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net>
 <1f06f4d5-98ad-4d2f-8c03-9358fa2fb4e9@tnrglobal.com>
Message-ID: <fcab04f4-f246-4e24-a6c4-03a88daee7ae@tnrglobal.com>

Don's actual image:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/jc0r8qfyhvxy3okxzrlnl/image001.png?rlkey=pt6gpgz3rivwlb02dbw8hzfep&dl=0

On 11/11/2024 9:26 PM, Rich Roth via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
>
> When you go to cushmans again Alan,
>
> Try this,
>
> ?Go to the command line on your computer.
>
> ?Type the following and let me know what you see:
> nslookup washingtonpost.com
>
> ?And
> nslookup www.bridgebase.com <http://www.bridgebase.com>
>
> Here is what I get from here:
>
> ?nslookup washingtonpost.com
> Server:???????? 8.8.8.8
> Address:??????? 8.8.8.8#53
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name:?? washingtonpost.com
> Address: 23.0.21.149
>
> nslookup bridgebase.com
>
> Server:???????? 8.8.8.8
> Address:??????? 8.8.8.8#53
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name:?? bridgebase.com
> Address: 169.48.120.231
> Name:?? bridgebase.com
> Address: 150.238.134.8
> Name:?? bridgebase.com
> Address: 169.54.210.132
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From alan at 8wheels.org  Wed Nov 13 00:45:58 2024
From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 19:45:58 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
References: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <2ab4d8532b0313d428d22915dc8022f8@8wheels.org>

Hidden techies,

I'm planning to go to Cushman this coming Sunday and have three items on 
my agenda regarding this issue:
1: Try accessing my work desktop via the VPN (which I have now 
installed) as a workaround.
2: Get my IP address so I can check with the webmasters at some of the 
affected sites to see if it is blacklisted.
3: Do DNS lookups on a couple of affected sites and see if I get values 
consistent with what I get from home.

Thanks to everyone who made suggestions.

--Alan



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Cushman wifi mystery
Date: 2024-11-08 22:39
 From: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>
To: Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>

Hidden Techers,

I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst.  For many years, I 
had no problems with their wifi.  However, in July, I started getting 
connection errors for most web sites.  For example:

This site can?t be reached
https://www.washingtonpost.com/ is unreachable.
Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE

This site can?t be reached
Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.
If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others.  I 
could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.

I can access https://www.bridgebase.com/, but when I follow the links to 
log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it fails.  
Perhaps the home page is cached?

Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows 
laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi.  None of 
the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from home 
or from other public wifi networks.  I also spoke with another Cushman 
customer.  He said that he didn't have any trouble, though when he tried 
then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same message.  At my 
request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that is unreachable for 
me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich home page.

I reached out to the owner of Cushman.  She said that she didn't have 
any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking 
any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not 
sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have 
direct knowledge that she was using the same network.

One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop, 
though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years.  There 
are a couple of ways to do that.  One is through a URL, but of course I 
can't access that.  Another is to use Windows App.  When I tried 
installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I wasn't 
connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can navigate the 
store itself just fine.  I installed it later from home and will try it 
out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point may not be for a 
while.

I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to 
investigate or resolve this issue.

--Alan

From tech at montaguewebworks.com  Wed Nov 13 13:49:50 2024
From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 08:49:50 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery
In-Reply-To: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
References: <61471452393fe7c7877d7d2b34a743cf@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <515f3d50-7bfd-43bd-9f3d-156e43a1fae3@montaguewebworks.com>

Ask them to reboot the router and all other Internet equipment.

Mik

Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
413-320-5336
http://MontagueWebWorks.com
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On 11/8/2024 10:39 PM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> Hidden Techers,
>
> I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst.? For many years, 
> I had no problems with their wifi.? However, in July, I started 
> getting connection errors for most web sites.? For example:
>
> This site can?t be reached
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/ is unreachable.
> Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
>
> This site can?t be reached
> Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.
> If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
>
> I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others. I 
> could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.
>
> I can access https://www.bridgebase.com/, but when I follow the links 
> to log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it 
> fails.? Perhaps the home page is cached?
>
> Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows 
> laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi.? None of 
> the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from 
> home or from other public wifi networks.? I also spoke with another 
> Cushman customer.? He said that he didn't have any trouble, though 
> when he tried then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same 
> message.? At my request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that 
> is unreachable for me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich 
> home page.
>
> I reached out to the owner of Cushman.? She said that she didn't have 
> any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking 
> any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not 
> sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have 
> direct knowledge that she was using the same network.
>
> One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop, 
> though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years.? 
> There are a couple of ways to do that.? One is through a URL, but of 
> course I can't access that.? Another is to use Windows App.? When I 
> tried installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I 
> wasn't connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can 
> navigate the store itself just fine.? I installed it later from home 
> and will try it out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point 
> may not be for a while.
>
> I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to 
> investigate or resolve this issue.
>
> --Alan
> _______________________________________________
> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>
> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion 
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From tech at montaguewebworks.com  Wed Nov 13 16:31:42 2024
From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 11:31:42 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] MS SQL Server assistance
Message-ID: <8c5f9367-24e2-4898-a981-5ab4288a2315@montaguewebworks.com>

Hey folks,

Anyone out there consider themself a SQL Server expert, especially with 
indexes and the server side?

Please contact me directly.

Thanks,

Mik

-- 
Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
413-320-5336
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From cgray at hilltownnetworks.com  Thu Nov 14 00:32:57 2024
From: cgray at hilltownnetworks.com (Christopher Gray [Hilltown Networks])
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 00:32:57 +0000
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Need for Server Space / Rack Space in Springfield?
Message-ID: <MN2PR18MB30889FEAF3103FD4E318B59DD55A2@MN2PR18MB3088.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

I am preparing to move some of my hardware to a datacenter in Springfield. I'm debating whether to do this in a minimalist way, or to have more rack space available for other uses.

Is anyone here looking to locate hardware in a nearby data center who might want to share space? If so, please feel free to contact me if you'd like to entertain it.

Thank you, Chris


Christopher Gray
413-628-2100 x101
________________________________

  Hilltown Networks   |  413-628-2100  |  www.hilltownnetworks.com<http://www.hilltownnetworks.com/>

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From rob at 2disc.com  Fri Nov 15 15:19:56 2024
From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:19:56 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Results of Western Mass Survey on LLMs' Utility for
 Firms
Message-ID: <1933067e82c.f7c75228104644.7231215458624049198@2disc.com>

Hi All,

Below is the summary of the Western Mass Survey on LLMs' Utility for Firms. I merged LivingLocal413.com?s similar survey answers. The survey is not statistically significant, just suggestive, so below I link to some of my firm?s curation of recent articles and studies. Next week I?ll email HT survey respondents the text of all the comments submitted in the survey.

Upshot:?

Big opportunities for all. All business types can benefit from wise LLM adoption.


Human AI/LLM managers are?vital to success and will?be for years to come.


Pro guidance will save a lot of time/money, boosting ROI.


However, except for case histories--which may be extremes on the upside in the articles--I found only a few good hard?numbers on money and time returns (ROI). This relates to my concluding Afterword on Corrupted Journalism.







See my https://docs.google.com/document/d/17-q1DiWX_6FRqzGZEPrOf5EQqPTaZTb03zRQGeSrsuY/edit?usp=sharing. All articles and most studies cited are within the last 3 months. Soon I?ll distill and frame it within the fifth installment of my firm?s https://www.2disc.com/blog/gpts-for-upper-management/.

I believe our region can prosper if, under one umbrella or another, we share advice from our LLM experiences. I like thathttps://www.livinglocal413.org/ aims for non-digital gatherings of warm bodies together with online connections, and among my more sedate fantasies is LL413?s?future partnership with Rich Roth?s Hidden-Tech .

Afterword on Corrupted Journalism

A plague threatening Democracy is the prevalence now of news for sale--largely due to Google taking ~80% of news channels' ad revenue. I see this in my industry, throughout general news outlets, and in?polling/surveys bought by, and distorted to benefit, the buyer. AI/LLMs? huge venture capital investments are buying lots of positive news, articles, and studies. Universities bend if not fall to that same sickle because they often get huge grants from tech corporations. It takes more time than working people have to verify each article, though I?ve done so for core LLM concepts at my firm, as well as for the news most important to our nation and its health. Regarding the articles I cite in the doc linked above, I believe they are not too distorted by money interests and are true enough for making sound decisions, but I also suspect that actual aggregate data on time/money invested vs. profit (or public benefit for nonprofits) would tamp down the stats and outlook for micro-, small-, and medium-sized business.



Best Regards,



Rob Laporte

CEO? |? R&D Manager

DISC - Making Websites?Make Money
mailto:Rob at 2disc.com,?413-584-6500

https://www.2disc.com



NOTE:?Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call.
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From alan at 8wheels.org  Mon Nov 18 02:50:19 2024
From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:50:19 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery: update
Message-ID: <2ad3e2a0f3217952ef080e71d3173f1f@8wheels.org>

I had three things to do at Cushman today.  One was to identify my IP 
address so I could ask whether it was blocked.  Well, I got five of 
them.  Which one should I provide in inquiries to hosts?

    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00::18de(Preferred)
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:ae45:7a46:51d2:4ec6(Preferred)
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:4987:e03b:5d70:d364(Preferred)
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : 
fe80::842:6097:492e:3186%18(Preferred)
    Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.186.185(Preferred)

I tried using my VPN to bypass the restriction, but unfortunately, I 
can't use it from there.  Of course, a useless message like "unable to 
connect."

And I did something silly trying to do DNS lookups on some of the sites, 
so I don't have an update on that.  I'll try again next week.

--Alan

From dstevens at tryandfindit.com  Mon Nov 18 18:19:23 2024
From: dstevens at tryandfindit.com (Donald M Stevens)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 18:19:23 +0000
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery: update
In-Reply-To: <2ad3e2a0f3217952ef080e71d3173f1f@8wheels.org>
References: <2ad3e2a0f3217952ef080e71d3173f1f@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <SJ2PR05MB96335329CE08781A3EB770A6B1272@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>




1.  fe80::842:6097:492e:3186%18(Preferred)
    Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.186.185(Preferred)
*** Is a private IP address that a device automatically assigns to itself when it can't get a valid IP address from a DHCP server ***
*** this basically means that your computer is NOT receiving a valid IP address from the DHCP server at Cushmans.
*** the windows system provides you with a temporary IP address that allows you to move around locally, but not go out to the internet.

2.     IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00::18de(Preferred)
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:ae45:7a46:51d2:4ec6(Preferred)
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:4987:e03b:5d70:d364(Preferred)
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
*** all of these are IP6 addresses. 
*** it appears that you might be trying to use IP 4 and not getting the needed addressing to use IP 4, 
*** however, the DHCP server there at Cushmans is providing you with the needed IP 6 addressing, but you computer is not using IP 6 ?

3. do you know if you WiFi card is configured to use or not use IP 6?
*** see in this pic, I am not using IP 6
*** check to see if IP 6 box is checked off on your computer while at Cushmans.
*** if the box is checked off, uncheck and save, reboot and see what happens.

Good luck,
don

Don Stevens 
TFI technologies
329 Pease Road
East Longmeadow, MA 01028
Cell / Text: 860.614.4153
Email: dstevens at tryandfindit.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> On Behalf Of Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 9:50 PM
To: Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery: update

I had three things to do at Cushman today.  One was to identify my IP address so I could ask whether it was blocked.  Well, I got five of them.  Which one should I provide in inquiries to hosts?

    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00::18de(Preferred)
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:ae45:7a46:51d2:4ec6(Preferred)
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:4987:e03b:5d70:d364(Preferred)
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : 

I tried using my VPN to bypass the restriction, but unfortunately, I can't use it from there.  Of course, a useless message like "unable to connect."

And I did something silly trying to do DNS lookups on some of the sites, so I don't have an update on that.  I'll try again next week.

--Alan
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From dstevens at tryandfindit.com  Mon Nov 18 18:24:24 2024
From: dstevens at tryandfindit.com (Donald M Stevens)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 18:24:24 +0000
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery: update
In-Reply-To: <SJ2PR05MB96335329CE08781A3EB770A6B1272@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <2ad3e2a0f3217952ef080e71d3173f1f@8wheels.org>
 <SJ2PR05MB96335329CE08781A3EB770A6B1272@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <SJ2PR05MB963331F8C72FFD2C68937CAEB1272@SJ2PR05MB9633.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

No Pic,
I was told I am not allowed to send pics.

Go to Settings > Network and Internet > WiFi > Change Adapter Options > See if "Internet Protocol Version 6...." is checked off.
Uncheck, reboot, test to see if it works.
Also run
Ipconfig /all at the command line and send me the results please.

Thanks,
don

Don Stevens 
TFI technologies
329 Pease Road
East Longmeadow, MA 01028
Cell / Text: 860.614.4153
Email: dstevens at tryandfindit.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Donald M Stevens 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2024 1:19 PM
To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>; Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery: update




1.  fe80::842:6097:492e:3186%18(Preferred)
    Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.186.185(Preferred)
*** Is a private IP address that a device automatically assigns to itself when it can't get a valid IP address from a DHCP server ***
*** this basically means that your computer is NOT receiving a valid IP address from the DHCP server at Cushmans.
*** the windows system provides you with a temporary IP address that allows you to move around locally, but not go out to the internet.

2.     IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00::18de(Preferred)
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:ae45:7a46:51d2:4ec6(Preferred)
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:4987:e03b:5d70:d364(Preferred)
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
*** all of these are IP6 addresses. 
*** it appears that you might be trying to use IP 4 and not getting the needed addressing to use IP 4, 
*** however, the DHCP server there at Cushmans is providing you with the needed IP 6 addressing, but you computer is not using IP 6 ?

3. do you know if you WiFi card is configured to use or not use IP 6?
*** see in this pic, I am not using IP 6
*** check to see if IP 6 box is checked off on your computer while at Cushmans.
*** if the box is checked off, uncheck and save, reboot and see what happens.

Good luck,
don

Don Stevens 
TFI technologies
329 Pease Road
East Longmeadow, MA 01028
Cell / Text: 860.614.4153
Email: dstevens at tryandfindit.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> On Behalf Of Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2024 9:50 PM
To: Hidden Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery: update

I had three things to do at Cushman today.  One was to identify my IP address so I could ask whether it was blocked.  Well, I got five of them.  Which one should I provide in inquiries to hosts?

    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00::18de(Preferred)
    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:ae45:7a46:51d2:4ec6(Preferred)
    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 
2603:3005:100:3b00:4987:e03b:5d70:d364(Preferred)
    Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : 

I tried using my VPN to bypass the restriction, but unfortunately, I can't use it from there.  Of course, a useless message like "unable to connect."

And I did something silly trying to do DNS lookups on some of the sites, so I don't have an update on that.  I'll try again next week.

--Alan
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From david.greenberg3 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 24 13:15:13 2024
From: david.greenberg3 at gmail.com (David Greenberg)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 08:15:13 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Giving Away Old Macbook Pro Model A1286 (2010)
Message-ID: <CAPHa+kijpCXinXmzwxXbDgLgU7r8Pyq8KX9OkiGgGVn-BkDpxA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I'm looking to onload this. I erased the hard disk with the intent of
re-installing High Sierra, but for some reason, I got a message that the
computer can't connect to the server. I don't have the High Sierra OS CD's.
If anyone wants this computer let me know. Seems to work fine with the
power supply but I think the battery is probably dead.

David
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From bram at greenfielddigital.com  Sun Nov 24 15:57:33 2024
From: bram at greenfielddigital.com (Bram Moreinis)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 10:57:33 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Giving Away Old Macbook Pro Model A1286 (2010)
In-Reply-To: <CAPHa+kijpCXinXmzwxXbDgLgU7r8Pyq8KX9OkiGgGVn-BkDpxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPHa+kijpCXinXmzwxXbDgLgU7r8Pyq8KX9OkiGgGVn-BkDpxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a47d214a-f2ef-4860-97d8-9033ac32bd00@greenfielddigital.com>

How much RAM, David?

I have a mini-DisplayPort to VGA and HDMI adapter (like this 
<https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DisplayPort-Converter-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00LL3O236/ref=asc_df_B00LL3O236?mcid=5aa505e70eb1384e8367cd8941645b22&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693369603351&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17001230170776828217&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001741&hvtargid=pla-379048174042&th=1>).? 
If anyone takes David's MacBook, take that too!

Sounds like a great candidate for Linux Mint to me, but if you want to 
stay with MacOS, you can install Big Sur with this patch 
<https://github.com/Ben216k/Patched-Sur>. With 16 GM RAM, I understand 
you can even run Monterey on it

It looks like you can get a replacement battery for under $75 
<https://www.laptopbatteryexpress.com/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-A1286-battery-s/38547.htm?srsltid=AfmBOorcg7On9cLiRT1BZALY14jLPx5Kq-P2_gfIS_Lm2vfrpn0qT_By>. 


On 11/24/24 8:15 AM, David Greenberg via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm looking to onload this. I erased the hard disk with the intent of 
> re-installing High Sierra, but for some reason, I got a message that 
> the computer can't connect to the server. I don't have the High Sierra 
> OS CD's. If anyone wants this computer let me know. Seems to work fine 
> with the power supply but I think the battery is probably dead.
>
> David
>
> _______________________________________________
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From info at yesexactly.com  Sun Nov 24 17:20:59 2024
From: info at yesexactly.com (Tess Gadwa)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:20:59 -0800
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Giving Away Old Macbook Pro Model A1286 (2010)
In-Reply-To: <a47d214a-f2ef-4860-97d8-9033ac32bd00@greenfielddigital.com>
References: <CAPHa+kijpCXinXmzwxXbDgLgU7r8Pyq8KX9OkiGgGVn-BkDpxA@mail.gmail.com>
 <a47d214a-f2ef-4860-97d8-9033ac32bd00@greenfielddigital.com>
Message-ID: <CAOJVQcueqkjxD6UOie_KOBfpGrjdUsPjgyp1LiJ49SoUxf-zrA@mail.gmail.com>

I was just talking about this with a colleague yesterday, and word on the
street is that Ubuntu Linux is the best desktop OS. His opinion was that
this was because the system came with built-in monitoring and updates,
which is really important given how common cyber security threats and
issues are in real life, in this day and age.

Of course, others may disagree...

David, I probably won't be back in the Valley for several more weeks, but
if you're having trouble unloading the MBP, I would be glad to take it off
your hands. Can probably even arrange a pickup sooner, if that is helpful.

Happy Sunday, TG
--

Tess Gadwa

lotusinsight.co
tessgadwa.com
(971) 412 - 2493


On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 8:16?AM Bram Moreinis via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> How much RAM, David?
>
> I have a mini-DisplayPort to VGA and HDMI adapter (like this
> <https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DisplayPort-Converter-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00LL3O236/ref=asc_df_B00LL3O236?mcid=5aa505e70eb1384e8367cd8941645b22&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693369603351&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17001230170776828217&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001741&hvtargid=pla-379048174042&th=1>).
> If anyone takes David's MacBook, take that too!
>
> Sounds like a great candidate for Linux Mint to me, but if you want to
> stay with MacOS, you can install Big Sur with this patch
> <https://github.com/Ben216k/Patched-Sur>.  With 16 GM RAM, I understand
> you can even run Monterey on it
>
> It looks like you can get a replacement battery for under $75
> <https://www.laptopbatteryexpress.com/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-A1286-battery-s/38547.htm?srsltid=AfmBOorcg7On9cLiRT1BZALY14jLPx5Kq-P2_gfIS_Lm2vfrpn0qT_By>.
>
> On 11/24/24 8:15 AM, David Greenberg via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm looking to onload this. I erased the hard disk with the intent of
> re-installing High Sierra, but for some reason, I got a message that the
> computer can't connect to the server. I don't have the High Sierra OS CD's.
> If anyone wants this computer let me know. Seems to work fine with the
> power supply but I think the battery is probably dead.
>
> David
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>
> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.
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>
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From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 13:46:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Giving Away Old Macbook Pro Model A1286 (2010)
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Some people might find Mint Linux an easier transistion from MS-Windows than
Ubuntu. Mint is actually based on Ubuntu and so has the same built-in
monitoring and update features. 

At Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:20:59 -0800 Tess Gadwa <info at yesexactly.com> wrote:

> 
> I was just talking about this with a colleague yesterday, and word on the
> street is that Ubuntu Linux is the best desktop OS. His opinion was that
> this was because the system came with built-in monitoring and updates,
> which is really important given how common cyber security threats and
> issues are in real life, in this day and age.
> 
> Of course, others may disagree...
> 
> David, I probably won't be back in the Valley for several more weeks, but
> if you're having trouble unloading the MBP, I would be glad to take it off
> your hands. Can probably even arrange a pickup sooner, if that is helpful.
> 
> Happy Sunday, TG
> --
> 
> Tess Gadwa
> 
> lotusinsight.co
> tessgadwa.com
> (971) 412 - 2493
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 8:16??????AM Bram Moreinis via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
> > How much RAM, David?
> >
> > I have a mini-DisplayPort to VGA and HDMI adapter (like this
> > <https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DisplayPort-Converter-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00LL3O236/ref=asc_df_B00LL3O236?mcidZa505e70eb1384e8367cd8941645b22&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode?0&hvadidi3369603351&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand001230170776828217&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy?01741&hvtargid=pla-379048174042&th=1>).
> > If anyone takes David's MacBook, take that too!
> >
> > Sounds like a great candidate for Linux Mint to me, but if you want to
> > stay with MacOS, you can install Big Sur with this patch
> > <https://github.com/Ben216k/Patched-Sur>.  With 16 GM RAM, I understand
> > you can even run Monterey on it
> >
> > It looks like you can get a replacement battery for under $75
> > <https://www.laptopbatteryexpress.com/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-A1286-battery-s/38547.htm?srsltid?mBOorcg7On9cLiRT1BZALY14jLPx5Kq-P2_gfIS_Lm2vfrpn0qT_By>.
> >
> > On 11/24/24 8:15 AM, David Greenberg via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm looking to onload this. I erased the hard disk with the intent of
> > re-installing High Sierra, but for some reason, I got a message that the
> > computer can't connect to the server. I don't have the High Sierra OS CD's.
> > If anyone wants this computer let me know. Seems to work fine with the
> > power supply but I think the battery is probably dead.
> >
> > David
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> >
> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.
> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> >
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> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
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> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From info at yesexactly.com  Sun Nov 24 22:55:22 2024
From: info at yesexactly.com (Yes Exactly)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 14:55:22 -0800
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Giving Away Old Macbook Pro Model A1286 (2010)
In-Reply-To: <20241124184633.390054C06BE@sharky5.deepsoft.com>
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Good to know. I think for me, it's all about the frequency of updates and
the stability and long-term viability of the organization. This is what Red
Hat promised for many years, but in practice they never quite scaled up to
be a household name.

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 10:46?AM Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:

>
> Some people might find Mint Linux an easier transistion from MS-Windows
> than
> Ubuntu. Mint is actually based on Ubuntu and so has the same built-in
> monitoring and update features.
>
> At Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:20:59 -0800 Tess Gadwa <info at yesexactly.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I was just talking about this with a colleague yesterday, and word on the
> > street is that Ubuntu Linux is the best desktop OS. His opinion was that
> > this was because the system came with built-in monitoring and updates,
> > which is really important given how common cyber security threats and
> > issues are in real life, in this day and age.
> >
> > Of course, others may disagree...
> >
> > David, I probably won't be back in the Valley for several more weeks, but
> > if you're having trouble unloading the MBP, I would be glad to take it
> off
> > your hands. Can probably even arrange a pickup sooner, if that is
> helpful.
> >
> > Happy Sunday, TG
> > --
> >
> > Tess Gadwa
> >
> > lotusinsight.co
> > tessgadwa.com
> > (971) 412 - 2493
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 8:16??????AM Bram Moreinis via Hidden-discuss <
> > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> >
> > > How much RAM, David?
> > >
> > > I have a mini-DisplayPort to VGA and HDMI adapter (like this
> > > <
> https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DisplayPort-Converter-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00LL3O236/refasc_df_B00LL3O236?mcidZa505e70eb1384e8367cd8941645b22&taghyprod-20&linkCode?0&hvadidi3369603351&hvpos&hvnetwg&hvrand
> 001230170776828217&hvpone&hvptwo&hvqmt&hvdevc&hvdvcmdl&hvlocint&hvlocphy
> 01741&hvtargidpla-379048174042&th1>).
> > > If anyone takes David's MacBook, take that too!
> > >
> > > Sounds like a great candidate for Linux Mint to me, but if you want to
> > > stay with MacOS, you can install Big Sur with this patch
> > > <https://github.com/Ben216k/Patched-Sur>.  With 16 GM RAM, I
> understand
> > > you can even run Monterey on it
> > >
> > > It looks like you can get a replacement battery for under $75
> > > <
> https://www.laptopbatteryexpress.com/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-A1286-battery-s/38547.htm?srsltid
> ?mBOorcg7On9cLiRT1BZALY14jLPx5Kq-P2_gfIS_Lm2vfrpn0qT_By>.
> > >
> > > On 11/24/24 8:15 AM, David Greenberg via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm looking to onload this. I erased the hard disk with the intent of
> > > re-installing High Sierra, but for some reason, I got a message that
> the
> > > computer can't connect to the server. I don't have the High Sierra OS
> CD's.
> > > If anyone wants this computer let me know. Seems to work fine with the
> > > power supply but I think the battery is probably dead.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:
> http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> > >
> > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion
> list.
> > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
> > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> > >
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> list.
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> > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.
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> >
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> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
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> >
>
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From heller at deepsoft.com  Mon Nov 25 01:33:31 2024
From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 20:33:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Giving Away Old Macbook Pro Model A1286 (2010)
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RedHat was never really interested in being a "household name", at least in 
the sense of the "desktop market".  RedHat set its sights on the server and 
LTS business/engineering workstation market.  It does well there.

Ubuntu is pretty much the opposite (is some ways too much so). Ubuntu is
pretty indifferent as a server -- yes it can be used that way, but it is not
its strong suit. I use base Debian for my VPS now. Actually I use more or less
base Debian on all of my machines (which at this point are all ARM based --
x86_64 systems are just too costly). For a "hard core" Linux user, Ubuntu is
getting too much "like MS-Windows" in some ways. (Maybe a good thing for Linux
newbies, maybe not.)

At Sun, 24 Nov 2024 14:55:22 -0800 Yes Exactly <info at yesexactly.com> wrote:

> 
> Good to know. I think for me, it's all about the frequency of updates and
> the stability and long-term viability of the organization. This is what Red
> Hat promised for many years, but in practice they never quite scaled up to
> be a household name.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 10:46??????AM Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Some people might find Mint Linux an easier transistion from MS-Windows
> > than
> > Ubuntu. Mint is actually based on Ubuntu and so has the same built-in
> > monitoring and update features.
> >
> > At Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:20:59 -0800 Tess Gadwa <info at yesexactly.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I was just talking about this with a colleague yesterday, and word on the
> > > street is that Ubuntu Linux is the best desktop OS. His opinion was that
> > > this was because the system came with built-in monitoring and updates,
> > > which is really important given how common cyber security threats and
> > > issues are in real life, in this day and age.
> > >
> > > Of course, others may disagree...
> > >
> > > David, I probably won't be back in the Valley for several more weeks, but
> > > if you're having trouble unloading the MBP, I would be glad to take it
> > off
> > > your hands. Can probably even arrange a pickup sooner, if that is
> > helpful.
> > >
> > > Happy Sunday, TG
> > > --
> > >
> > > Tess Gadwa
> > >
> > > lotusinsight.co
> > > tessgadwa.com
> > > (971) 412 - 2493
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 8:16??????????????????????????AM Bram Moreinis via Hidden-discuss <
> > > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > How much RAM, David?
> > > >
> > > > I have a mini-DisplayPort to VGA and HDMI adapter (like this
> > > > <
> > https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DisplayPort-Converter-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00LL3O236/refasc_df_B00LL3O236?mcidZa505e70eb1384e8367cd8941645b22&taghyprod-20&linkCode????0&hvadidi3369603351&hvpos&hvnetwg&hvrand
> > 001230170776828217&hvpone&hvptwo&hvqmt&hvdevc&hvdvcmdl&hvlocint&hvlocphy
> > 01741&hvtargidpla-379048174042&th1>).
> > > > If anyone takes David's MacBook, take that too!
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a great candidate for Linux Mint to me, but if you want to
> > > > stay with MacOS, you can install Big Sur with this patch
> > > > <https://github.com/Ben216k/Patched-Sur>.  With 16 GM RAM, I
> > understand
> > > > you can even run Monterey on it
> > > >
> > > > It looks like you can get a replacement battery for under $75
> > > > <
> > https://www.laptopbatteryexpress.com/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-A1286-battery-s/38547.htm?srsltid
> > ????mBOorcg7On9cLiRT1BZALY14jLPx5Kq-P2_gfIS_Lm2vfrpn0qT_By>.
> > > >
> > > > On 11/24/24 8:15 AM, David Greenberg via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I'm looking to onload this. I erased the hard disk with the intent of
> > > > re-installing High Sierra, but for some reason, I got a message that
> > the
> > > > computer can't connect to the server. I don't have the High Sierra OS
> > CD's.
> > > > If anyone wants this computer let me know. Seems to work fine with the
> > > > power supply but I think the battery is probably dead.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:
> > http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> > > >
> > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion
> > list.
> > > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
> > > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> > > >
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> > list.
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> > > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.
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> > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
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> > list.
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> > >
> >
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> > Deepwoods Software        -- Custom Software Services
> > http://www.deepsoft.com/  -- Linux Administration Services
> > heller at deepsoft.com       -- Webhosting Services
> >
> >
> 
> 

-- 
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Deepwoods Software        -- Custom Software Services
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From info at yesexactly.com  Mon Nov 25 02:43:25 2024
From: info at yesexactly.com (Tess Gadwa)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 18:43:25 -0800
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Giving Away Old Macbook Pro Model A1286 (2010)
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Everybody has a different opinion on Linux distros... it's like picking a
Final Four bracket. Robert, when it comes to server implementations, I do
feel like I've seen more third-party packages written to run on Ubuntu than
Debian.  That would be my main reason to lean towards running Ubuntu on the
cloud. But that may just be my particular niche (AI/ML/Python stuff).


Tess Gadwa


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On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 6:13?PM Robert Heller via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> RedHat was never really interested in being a "household name", at least
> in
> the sense of the "desktop market".  RedHat set its sights on the server
> and
> LTS business/engineering workstation market.  It does well there.
>
> Ubuntu is pretty much the opposite (is some ways too much so). Ubuntu is
> pretty indifferent as a server -- yes it can be used that way, but it is
> not
> its strong suit. I use base Debian for my VPS now. Actually I use more or
> less
> base Debian on all of my machines (which at this point are all ARM based --
> x86_64 systems are just too costly). For a "hard core" Linux user, Ubuntu
> is
> getting too much "like MS-Windows" in some ways. (Maybe a good thing for
> Linux
> newbies, maybe not.)
>
> At Sun, 24 Nov 2024 14:55:22 -0800 Yes Exactly <info at yesexactly.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Good to know. I think for me, it's all about the frequency of updates and
> > the stability and long-term viability of the organization. This is what
> Red
> > Hat promised for many years, but in practice they never quite scaled up
> to
> > be a household name.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 10:46??????AM Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Some people might find Mint Linux an easier transistion from MS-Windows
> > > than
> > > Ubuntu. Mint is actually based on Ubuntu and so has the same built-in
> > > monitoring and update features.
> > >
> > > At Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:20:59 -0800 Tess Gadwa <info at yesexactly.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I was just talking about this with a colleague yesterday, and word
> on the
> > > > street is that Ubuntu Linux is the best desktop OS. His opinion was
> that
> > > > this was because the system came with built-in monitoring and
> updates,
> > > > which is really important given how common cyber security threats and
> > > > issues are in real life, in this day and age.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, others may disagree...
> > > >
> > > > David, I probably won't be back in the Valley for several more
> weeks, but
> > > > if you're having trouble unloading the MBP, I would be glad to take
> it
> > > off
> > > > your hands. Can probably even arrange a pickup sooner, if that is
> > > helpful.
> > > >
> > > > Happy Sunday, TG
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Tess Gadwa
> > > >
> > > > lotusinsight.co
> > > > tessgadwa.com
> > > > (971) 412 - 2493
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 8:16??????????????????????????AM Bram Moreinis
> via Hidden-discuss <
> > > > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > How much RAM, David?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a mini-DisplayPort to VGA and HDMI adapter (like this
> > > > > <
> > >
> https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DisplayPort-Converter-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00LL3O236/refasc_df_B00LL3O236?mcidZa505e70eb1384e8367cd8941645b22&taghyprod-20&linkCode????0&hvadidi3369603351&hvpos&hvnetwg&hvrand
> > >
> 001230170776828217&hvpone&hvptwo&hvqmt&hvdevc&hvdvcmdl&hvlocint&hvlocphy
> > > 01741&hvtargidpla-379048174042&th1>).
> > > > > If anyone takes David's MacBook, take that too!
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a great candidate for Linux Mint to me, but if you
> want to
> > > > > stay with MacOS, you can install Big Sur with this patch
> > > > > <https://github.com/Ben216k/Patched-Sur>.  With 16 GM RAM, I
> > > understand
> > > > > you can even run Monterey on it
> > > > >
> > > > > It looks like you can get a replacement battery for under $75
> > > > > <
> > >
> https://www.laptopbatteryexpress.com/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-A1286-battery-s/38547.htm?srsltid
> > > ????mBOorcg7On9cLiRT1BZALY14jLPx5Kq-P2_gfIS_Lm2vfrpn0qT_By>.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/24/24 8:15 AM, David Greenberg via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I'm looking to onload this. I erased the hard disk with the intent
> of
> > > > > re-installing High Sierra, but for some reason, I got a message
> that
> > > the
> > > > > computer can't connect to the server. I don't have the High Sierra
> OS
> > > CD's.
> > > > > If anyone wants this computer let me know. Seems to work fine with
> the
> > > > > power supply but I think the battery is probably dead.
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:
> > > http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> > > > >
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> >
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From heller at deepsoft.com  Mon Nov 25 14:55:30 2024
From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:55:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Giving Away Old Macbook Pro Model A1286 (2010)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJVQcvbttF8otxaO=H0T8HBrjKL5oo17n1EfMOF9w2J8c2R6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPHa+kijpCXinXmzwxXbDgLgU7r8Pyq8KX9OkiGgGVn-BkDpxA@mail.gmail.com>? 
 <a47d214a-f2ef-4860-97d8-9033ac32bd00@greenfielddigital.com>? 
 <CAOJVQcueqkjxD6UOie_KOBfpGrjdUsPjgyp1LiJ49SoUxf-zrA@mail.gmail.com>? 
 <20241124184633.390054C06BE@sharky5.deepsoft.com> 
 <CAPA4ta5T6Ccpv59X00AHDV6SPTv8PjG2ncr_q1tQ1jjEkZiGbA@mail.gmail.com>? 
 <20241125013331.072184C0978@sharky5.deepsoft.com> 
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Message-ID: <20241125145530.36B9C4C089C@sharky5.deepsoft.com>

Linux distros are probably like cars in a lot of ways.  Yes, they all have 4 
wheels, but there people who like Chevys and people who prefer Fords, and then 
there are people who like Toyotas... :-)

At Sun, 24 Nov 2024 18:43:25 -0800 Tess Gadwa <info at yesexactly.com> wrote:

> 
> Everybody has a different opinion on Linux distros... it's like picking a
> Final Four bracket. Robert, when it comes to server implementations, I do
> feel like I've seen more third-party packages written to run on Ubuntu than
> Debian.  That would be my main reason to lean towards running Ubuntu on the
> cloud. But that may just be my particular niche (AI/ML/Python stuff).
> 
> 
> Tess Gadwa
> 
> 
> --
> 
>  971.412.2493
> https://lotusinsight.co
> https://www.tessgadwa.com
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 6:13??????PM Robert Heller via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
> > RedHat was never really interested in being a "household name", at least
> > in
> > the sense of the "desktop market".  RedHat set its sights on the server
> > and
> > LTS business/engineering workstation market.  It does well there.
> >
> > Ubuntu is pretty much the opposite (is some ways too much so). Ubuntu is
> > pretty indifferent as a server -- yes it can be used that way, but it is
> > not
> > its strong suit. I use base Debian for my VPS now. Actually I use more or
> > less
> > base Debian on all of my machines (which at this point are all ARM based --
> > x86_64 systems are just too costly). For a "hard core" Linux user, Ubuntu
> > is
> > getting too much "like MS-Windows" in some ways. (Maybe a good thing for
> > Linux
> > newbies, maybe not.)
> >
> > At Sun, 24 Nov 2024 14:55:22 -0800 Yes Exactly <info at yesexactly.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Good to know. I think for me, it's all about the frequency of updates and
> > > the stability and long-term viability of the organization. This is what
> > Red
> > > Hat promised for many years, but in practice they never quite scaled up
> > to
> > > be a household name.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 10:46??????????????????????????AM Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Some people might find Mint Linux an easier transistion from MS-Windows
> > > > than
> > > > Ubuntu. Mint is actually based on Ubuntu and so has the same built-in
> > > > monitoring and update features.
> > > >
> > > > At Sun, 24 Nov 2024 09:20:59 -0800 Tess Gadwa <info at yesexactly.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I was just talking about this with a colleague yesterday, and word
> > on the
> > > > > street is that Ubuntu Linux is the best desktop OS. His opinion was
> > that
> > > > > this was because the system came with built-in monitoring and
> > updates,
> > > > > which is really important given how common cyber security threats and
> > > > > issues are in real life, in this day and age.
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course, others may disagree...
> > > > >
> > > > > David, I probably won't be back in the Valley for several more
> > weeks, but
> > > > > if you're having trouble unloading the MBP, I would be glad to take
> > it
> > > > off
> > > > > your hands. Can probably even arrange a pickup sooner, if that is
> > > > helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Happy Sunday, TG
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Tess Gadwa
> > > > >
> > > > > lotusinsight.co
> > > > > tessgadwa.com
> > > > > (971) 412 - 2493
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2024, 8:16??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????AM Bram Moreinis
> > via Hidden-discuss <
> > > > > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > How much RAM, David?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a mini-DisplayPort to VGA and HDMI adapter (like this
> > > > > > <
> > > >
> > https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DisplayPort-Converter-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00LL3O236/refasc_df_B00LL3O236?mcidZa505e70eb1384e8367cd8941645b22&taghyprod-20&linkCode????????????????0&hvadidi3369603351&hvpos&hvnetwg&hvrand
> > > >
> > 001230170776828217&hvpone&hvptwo&hvqmt&hvdevc&hvdvcmdl&hvlocint&hvlocphy
> > > > 01741&hvtargidpla-379048174042&th1>).
> > > > > > If anyone takes David's MacBook, take that too!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like a great candidate for Linux Mint to me, but if you
> > want to
> > > > > > stay with MacOS, you can install Big Sur with this patch
> > > > > > <https://github.com/Ben216k/Patched-Sur>.  With 16 GM RAM, I
> > > > understand
> > > > > > you can even run Monterey on it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It looks like you can get a replacement battery for under $75
> > > > > > <
> > > >
> > https://www.laptopbatteryexpress.com/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-A1286-battery-s/38547.htm?srsltid
> > > > ??????????????????mBOorcg7On9cLiRT1BZALY14jLPx5Kq-P2_gfIS_Lm2vfrpn0qT_By>.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/24/24 8:15 AM, David Greenberg via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I'm looking to onload this. I erased the hard disk with the intent
> > of
> > > > > > re-installing High Sierra, but for some reason, I got a message
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > computer can't connect to the server. I don't have the High Sierra
> > OS
> > > > CD's.
> > > > > > If anyone wants this computer let me know. Seems to work fine with
> > the
> > > > > > power supply but I think the battery is probably dead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:
> > > > http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Robert Heller             -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364
> > > > Deepwoods Software        -- Custom Software Services
> > > > http://www.deepsoft.com/  -- Linux Administration Services
> > > > heller at deepsoft.com       -- Webhosting Services
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Robert Heller             -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364
> > Deepwoods Software        -- Custom Software Services
> > http://www.deepsoft.com/  -- Linux Administration Services
> > heller at deepsoft.com       -- Webhosting Services
> >
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> 

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Deepwoods Software        -- Custom Software Services
http://www.deepsoft.com/  -- Linux Administration Services
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From tech at montaguewebworks.com  Mon Nov 25 20:50:49 2024
From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 15:50:49 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for Google Sheets formula help
Message-ID: <6f52345e-02c5-411d-b351-71d0ebd9dd92@montaguewebworks.com>

Hey all,

I have a multi-tab Google Sheet that keeps stats on players in a game 
I'm helping manage. Looking to do some intra-sheet math to create an 
index of the players.

Essentially, TAB1, TAB2, TAB3 all have player names in a left column, 
and a score in the next column over that need to be combined, and posted 
to a matching player field in TAB4.

I already know how to do things like this:??? =COUNTIF(Guild!A1:A82, 
"21")??? but I need to grab one field from three tabs, based on matching 
player names in all four tabs.

Anyone has a minute and some expertise in this area?

Thanks,

Mik

-- 
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Montague WebWorks
20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
413-320-5336
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From rob at 2disc.com  Tue Nov 26 14:34:25 2024
From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 09:34:25 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for Google Sheets formula help
In-Reply-To: <6f52345e-02c5-411d-b351-71d0ebd9dd92@montaguewebworks.com>
References: <6f52345e-02c5-411d-b351-71d0ebd9dd92@montaguewebworks.com>
Message-ID: <19368e4274c.f5ee5311724756.7719239971295502632@2disc.com>

I have found that asking an LLM like ChatGPT for Sheet/Excel formulas works quickly. Only the most complex, recursive calculations have required my asking more than once.?


Best Regards,



Rob Laporte

CEO? |? R&D Manager

DISC - Making Websites?Make Money
mailto:Rob at 2disc.com,?413-584-6500

https://www.2disc.com



NOTE:?Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call.








---- On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 15:50:49 -0500 Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote ---



Hey all,

I have a multi-tab Google Sheet that keeps
        stats on players in a game I'm helping manage. Looking to do
        some intra-sheet math to create an index of the players.

Essentially, TAB1, TAB2, TAB3 all have
        player names in a left column, and a score in the next column
        over that need to be combined, and posted to a matching player
        field in TAB4.

I already know how to do things like
        this:??? =COUNTIF(Guild!A1:A82, "21")??? but I need to grab one
        field from three tabs, based on matching player names in all
        four tabs.

Anyone has a minute and some expertise in
        this area?

Thanks,

Mik

-- 
Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
413-320-5336
http://MontagueWebWorks.com
Powered by ROCKETFUSION


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From annamarie at patientsympatheticcoaching.com  Tue Nov 26 18:10:22 2024
From: annamarie at patientsympatheticcoaching.com (Annamarie)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:10:22 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for Google Sheets formula help
In-Reply-To: <19368e4274c.f5ee5311724756.7719239971295502632@2disc.com>
References: <6f52345e-02c5-411d-b351-71d0ebd9dd92@montaguewebworks.com>
 <19368e4274c.f5ee5311724756.7719239971295502632@2disc.com>
Message-ID: <820614be-f1ef-4846-8219-d1a6034a218b@Spark>

I?ve often asked in the google forum for sheets. Gotten lots of good help!

Annamarie

On Nov 26, 2024 at 11:04?AM -0500, Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>, wrote:
> I have found that asking an LLM like ChatGPT for Sheet/Excel formulas works quickly. Only the most complex, recursive calculations have required my asking more than once.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rob Laporte
> CEO? |? R&D Manager
> DISC - Making Websites?Make Money
> Rob at 2disc.com,?413-584-6500
> www.2disc.com
>
> NOTE:?Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call.
>
>
>
> ---- On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 15:50:49 -0500 Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote ---
>
> > Hey all,
> > I have a multi-tab Google Sheet that keeps stats on players in a game I'm helping manage. Looking to do some intra-sheet math to create an index of the players.
> > Essentially, TAB1, TAB2, TAB3 all have player names in a left column, and a score in the next column over that need to be combined, and posted to a matching player field in TAB4.
> > I already know how to do things like this:??? =COUNTIF(Guild!A1:A82, "21")??? but I need to grab one field from three tabs, based on matching player names in all four tabs.
> > Anyone has a minute and some expertise in this area?
> > Thanks,
> > Mik
> > --
> > Mik Muller, president
> > Montague WebWorks
> > 20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
> > 413-320-5336
> > http://MontagueWebWorks.com
> > Powered by ROCKETFUSION
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> >
> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.
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From hjflood at mediaspectrum.net  Tue Nov 26 19:52:15 2024
From: hjflood at mediaspectrum.net (Harry Flood)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 14:52:15 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Problem with Gmail--can anyone help?
Message-ID: <CAAg+yd9mAxRvsXj6nxyeawpZbwF1rAN29s2ofAUMZv1X1Z-O3g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks, I have had a nagging problem with Gmail. We have a company
account with about 70 users.

The problem I have had is this: email from two other people in our
organization *and from me *go to my inbox, and then about 15 minutes later
go to my spam folder. I can move them back (mark as not spam) and then they
go back into the spam folder.

I have tried all of the usual things, like marking mail from these
individuals as important, specifically naming them as ones that should not
go to spam, etc.

Any other ideas on how to fix this? It's getting pretty aggravating. It has
been happening for the past year or two on the other two folks, and mine
started going into spam a couple of months ago.

Thanks in advance.

Harry

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Mediaspectrum, Inc.
20 Gatehouse Road
Amherst, MA 01002

Mediaspectrum public number: 786.264.2247
Mobile phone: 413.626.2020
Email: Hjflood at Mediaspectrum.net

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From wackalectic at gmail.com  Tue Nov 26 20:43:49 2024
From: wackalectic at gmail.com (Michael Phillips)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 15:43:49 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Problem with Gmail--can anyone help?
In-Reply-To: <CAAg+yd9mAxRvsXj6nxyeawpZbwF1rAN29s2ofAUMZv1X1Z-O3g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAg+yd9mAxRvsXj6nxyeawpZbwF1rAN29s2ofAUMZv1X1Z-O3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACRToVzjPsAipCtVR+FaXAL2n5wQtMbbzoFuTgnJ-TsMeN_Jnw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Harry
Make sure your list is clean. If you are sending mail to 80 people and 10
of them are no longer relevant, they might all be marking as spam.  Just a
thought. Hope you are well
Mike

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024, 3:34?PM Harry Flood via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Hi folks, I have had a nagging problem with Gmail. We have a company
> account with about 70 users.
>
> The problem I have had is this: email from two other people in our
> organization *and from me *go to my inbox, and then about 15 minutes
> later go to my spam folder. I can move them back (mark as not spam) and
> then they go back into the spam folder.
>
> I have tried all of the usual things, like marking mail from these
> individuals as important, specifically naming them as ones that should not
> go to spam, etc.
>
> Any other ideas on how to fix this? It's getting pretty aggravating. It
> has been happening for the past year or two on the other two folks, and
> mine started going into spam a couple of months ago.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Harry
>
> --
> Harry J Flood
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From ftrobaugh at gmail.com  Wed Nov 27 04:06:48 2024
From: ftrobaugh at gmail.com (Ted Trobaugh)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 23:06:48 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] OSX Booting into recovery mode screwed me up
Message-ID: <CAJFaMp=z4R5bVnr+jGSWBSLUfqe3w3PvZmy2r6b5T2hJF+OkZw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

I am using OS 13 Ventura.  I do not understand AFPS and how the two
partitions/drives, System and Data, interact.  I don't even know the
nomenclature.  What I *think* I understand is that the physical harddrive
is a Fusion Drive, and that the system is stored in the NAND part and the
data files are stored on the spinning mechanical disk, but I am not
confident of that.  At least you now know what I don't know.

I was investigating creating a disk image of my boot drive (as I was able
to do with HFS+), so I booted into Internet Recovery Mode with the
intention of using Disk Utility.  I discovered that I could not do what I
wanted, so I restarted.  Note: I did nothing while in Recovery Mode -- no
first aid, nothing; all I did was 1) go Disk Utility > File > New Image, 2)
saw that "Image from Drive" was greyed out, 3) Restarted.

Now my machine won't boot.  Verbose Mode tells me that there seems to be an
I/O error with disk2s1 -- I get cyclical "NCQ error caused by queued
command" and "non-NCQ error."

disk2 is not my boot drive; it is a disk image.  I wonder if it is the disk
image that was built when I went into recovery mode.

When in recovery mode I specified what boot drive I wanted to use -- only
my real and true boot drive was listed.  I have no other peripherals
attached - only my keyboard - and I continue to get the error.  Holding
down the Alt/Option key does not give me the Startup Manager.

I have tried using target mode to figure out was is going on, but the host
machine (Sonoma) tells me that my Thunderbolt cable is not actually a
Thunderbolt cable, so the Target disk won't mount.

I look forward to any help you can give me.

Thanks,
Ted




Ted Trobaugh
Dolce Music and Audio
www.dolcemusic.com
413-345-5114
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