[Hidden-tech] AT&T vs Verizon vs T-Mobile

Mon Oct 24 19:27:56 UTC 2022

Folks, to follow up from my previous reply, please consider getting
yourselves an old-fashioned copper-wire landline phone service and an
old-fashioned hardwired phone (harder and harder to find).

There are several reasons to use these services:
1) They will still work if the electricity, internet or cell service goes
out.
(whereas wireless, Fios, DSL and coax cable-reliant services will go out)
2) As folks have shared about spotty wireless coverage lately, the
copper-wired service will not drop due to spotty coverage
3) They are much more secure than wireless
4) They are 100% safe for your health. There are no EMFs/wireless
radiation.
5) Call quality, crispness of sound is very good (with rare exceptions)
6) Wireless communication uses ten times the energy of hard-wired solutions

Sure, some newer buildings do not have the copper-wired infrastructure, and
I don't know if it can be added. And yes, Verizon and other providers are
charging way too much money for these copper-wired services, and
discouraging their use. A bundle of unlimited calls, voicemail, caller ID,
last I checked is over $100/mo where I live. I have basic Verizon landline
phone service, which only includes calls to the contingent towns, and then
I have a third party provider for long distance, and pay-per-call, no
monthly fees. I got an answering machine for voicemails.

Hope that's helpful,
Deb

On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 3:05 PM Aaron Taylor-Waldman via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Some of this *is* new, for folks (myself included) who have previously had
> adequate service and now do not.
>
> I was unable to connect on a voice call with a business based in Hadley
> (also a verizon customer) last week—we were texting each other in between
> phone call attempts, "hey, I'm just called you three times and nothing
> happened".
> Both of us in our respective offices where we've had many conversations
> before, for the past three years.
>
> Cheers,
> Aaron
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 2:02 PM David Ruderman via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> None of this is new. Verizon Wireless service is not good in South
>> Amherst. This was acknowledged by VW which offers a free device to connect
>> to your home internet, but doesn't quite help 200 feet from your home. VW
>> service is bad in Hadley at the Malls and at Home Depot too which is
>> directly across from the VW store :-(
>>
>> -dave
>>
>>
>> *Dave Ruderman (he/him)*
>>
>>
>> *david.ruderman at gmail.com <david.ruderman at gmail.com>*
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 5:19 PM Todd Felton via Hidden-discuss <
>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I am wondering if there are other Verizon customers out there that have
>>> noticed a significant decline over the last 6 months. We used to regularly
>>> get 4-5 bars and now are lucky to get 2.
>>>
>>> No recent change in our house or phones.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>> Todd Felton
>>> 413.320.3923
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> my pronouns: he, him, his
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:45 AM Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss <
>>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for this information. I'm sure you'll get many haters
>>>> telling you to "take off the tin foil hat". EMF affects my homeopathics. So
>>>> much so, my specialist is up in arms about how much further they're going
>>>> to go with data and how he will be unable to continue his work if the
>>>> remedies are compromised and he can't do anything about it. People no
>>>> longer question a thing... it's as if we're going back to the 30s and
>>>> people are falling in line with the lies out of communists faces (sorry,
>>>> been on a Peaky Blinders binge for the 3rd time LOL).
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss <
>>>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mik and all,
>>>>>
>>>>> First, please read this and see if you feel that WhistleOut is truly
>>>>> unbiased:
>>>>> https://www.whistleout.com/Service-Promise
>>>>>
>>>>> Secondly, the coverage maps are hugely inaccurate. Big Telecom lies
>>>>> about everything they do. If you choose a plan with a place like Red
>>>>> Pocket, you can change carriers if one doesn't work out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thirdly, as someone who has EMF sensitivity from exposure to all the
>>>>> wireless tech they have us marinating in, I request that as much as
>>>>> possible, we go back to reliance on WIRED products and spend less time
>>>>> using a cellphone or other wireless tech. I know some people travel for
>>>>> their work, and need to use a cellphone or laptop on the road, but please
>>>>> remember back in the day, we did not have all this wireless tech. We waited
>>>>> until we were back home or at the office. Are we really more advanced,
>>>>> using wireless when it is NOT even secure, it is slower than wired tech, it
>>>>> takes TEN TIMES the energy of wired devices (yes, it's true), in a time
>>>>> when the media screams about how we must take climate change seriously? And
>>>>> as of January they are banning the sale of incandescent lightbulbs
>>>>> allegedly due to their energy consumption; I have them stockpiled now, I
>>>>> cannot use LED bulbs. And then there's my friend who died twice on the way
>>>>> to the hospital in June after being hit head on by a truck whose driver
>>>>> admitted he was texting and driving. She was very seriously hurt, but thank
>>>>> God is recovering and will be okay. Do we *really* need cell coverage
>>>>> EVERYWHERE we go? Or has Big Telecom brainwashed us into thinking we do?
>>>>>
>>>>> The number of people developing EMF sensitivity is skyrocketing daily.
>>>>> One day you're fine, next day you're no longer able to tolerate being near
>>>>> a cellphone or wireless router. I can no longer make one trip to a big box
>>>>> store without getting sick. I have to rush the trip, getting out as quickly
>>>>> as possible. And I can do very little of my beloved graphic design.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can find lots and lots of information on this topic at
>>>>> https://www.ma4safetech.org, MA for Safe Technology. We just had our
>>>>> monthly Zoom meeting today at noon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry if this was not welcomed information. But cognitive
>>>>> dissonance be damned. There is really never a good time to bring it up. It
>>>>> must be interjected.
>>>>>
>>>>> To those who have endured, thanks for listening. Feel free to write
>>>>> me, I can tell you about recently testifying at the NH statehouse and how
>>>>> the Big Telecom attempted to send in their Good Squad of lobbyists
>>>>> pretending to be there for personal reasons, until my colleague ratted them
>>>>> out. I was elated at her testicular fortitude.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Deb
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 1:17 PM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss <
>>>>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey hidden folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I are considering moving my cell service off Verizon to AT&T, partly
>>>>>> because we now go to Warwick a lot and have zero Verizon service out there.
>>>>>> We've seen people getting texts and calls out near Moore's Pond, while we
>>>>>> can't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone currently have AT&T or Sprint/T-Mobile and have comparative
>>>>>> stories to tell about coverage in the "fringe" towns of Western Mass?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want to say price is not important, but I'm nervous about
>>>>>> using a sub-carrier/MVNO that rides on someone else's network. Especially
>>>>>> because those services sometimes have less data available, and we use a lot
>>>>>> of data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This website, below, seems to show coverage maps, and declares: "AT&T
>>>>>> has the widest network reach in Massachusetts for both 4G LTE and 5G
>>>>>> coverage, and takes the title for the best network in the state. Verizon
>>>>>> comes in second for 4G LTE coverage, with T-Mobile following very closely
>>>>>> behind in third place—though the Un-carrier's 5G coverage is almost neck
>>>>>> and neck with AT&T's state-best network."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    -
>>>>>>    https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Best-Coverage-in-Massachusetts-USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that everyone's experience?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone use Boost Mobile, Metro or Cricket Wireless, and what's
>>>>>> your experience?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mik Muller, president
>>>>>> Montague WebWorks
>>>>>> 20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
>>>>>> 413-320-5336http://MontagueWebWorks.com
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