[Hidden-tech] AT&T vs Verizon vs T-Mobile

Robert Heller heller at deepsoft.com
Mon Oct 24 18:16:46 UTC 2022


I wonder if the wireless providers are *replacing* (low-band) 4G antennas with
5G high-band antennas. And if they expect *everyone* will go out and trade in
their 4G phones for 5G phones. <sarcasm>Afterall the providers are providing
all sorts of "deals" for brand new 5G phones, so presumably *everyone* is
trading up and who cares about the hicks and hayseeds who are keeping their
old 4G phones. Never mind that the 5G high-band antennas have 1/2 the range
of the 4G antennas, since being twice as fast makes up for that,
right?</sarcasm>

At Mon, 24 Oct 2022 13:08:24 -0400 RA Cohen <roy at net-vantage.com> wrote:

> 
> fwiw I once tested T-Mobile in the fringes of Conway. Everything was 
> fine until it wasn't. Called T-Mobile and they informed that they 
> changed their signal footprint for the one tower serving me. I assume 
> even though they lost me as a customer, by changing the footprint they 
> encompassed a slightly different area and maybe gained several 
> customers, more than making up for my loss... this could explain what 
> you are experiencing with Verizon ...
> 
> On 10/24/22 11:27, Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> >
> > I haven't seen that in Greenfield. Currently at full bars.
> >
> > Mik
> >
> > Mik Muller, president
> > Montague WebWorks
> > 20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
> > 413-320-5336
> > http://MontagueWebWorks.com
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> > On 10/23/2022 4:10 PM, Todd Felton via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> >> I am wondering if there are other Verizon customers out there that 
> >> have noticed a significant decline over the last 6 months. We used to 
> >> regularly get 4-5 bars and now are lucky to get 2.
> >>
> >> No recent change in our house or phones.
> >>
> >> Todd
> >>
> >>
> >> Todd Felton
> >> 413.320.3923
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> my pronouns: he, him, his
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 10:45 AM Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss 
> >> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Thanks so much for this information. I'm sure you'll get many
> >>     haters telling you to "take off the tin foil hat". EMF affects my
> >>     homeopathics. So much so, my specialist is up in arms about how
> >>     much further they're going to go with data and how he will be
> >>     unable to continue his work if the remedies are compromised and
> >>     he can't do anything about it. People no longer question a
> >>     thing... it's as if we're going back to the 30s and people are
> >>     falling in line with the lies out of communists faces (sorry,
> >>     been on a Peaky Blinders binge for the 3rd time LOL).
> >>
> >>     On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 9:19 PM Deborah Chandler via
> >>     Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>         Hi Mik and all,
> >>
> >>         First, please read this and see if you feel that WhistleOut
> >>         is truly unbiased:
> >>         https://www.whistleout.com/Service-Promise
> >>
> >>         Secondly, the coverage maps are hugely inaccurate. Big
> >>         Telecom lies about everything they do. If you choose a plan
> >>         with a place like Red Pocket, you can change carriers if one
> >>         doesn't work out.
> >>
> >>         Thirdly, as someone who has EMF sensitivity from exposure to
> >>         all the wireless tech they have us marinating in, I request
> >>         that as much as possible, we go back to reliance on WIRED
> >>         products and spend less time using a cellphone or other
> >>         wireless tech. I know some people travel for their work, and
> >>         need to use a cellphone or laptop on the road, but please
> >>         remember back in the day, we did not have all this wireless
> >>         tech. We waited until we were back home or at the office. Are
> >>         we really more advanced, using wireless when it is NOT even
> >>         secure, it is slower than wired tech, it takes TEN TIMES the
> >>         energy of wired devices (yes, it's true), in a time when the
> >>         media screams about how we must take climate change
> >>         seriously? And as of January they are banning the sale of
> >>         incandescent lightbulbs allegedly due to their energy
> >>         consumption; I have them stockpiled now, I cannot use
> >>         LED bulbs. And then there's my friend who died twice on the
> >>         way to the hospital in June after being hit head on by a
> >>         truck whose driver admitted he was texting and driving. She
> >>         was very seriously hurt, but thank God is recovering and will
> >>         be okay. Do we *really* need cell coverage EVERYWHERE we go?
> >>         Or has Big Telecom brainwashed us into thinking we do?
> >>
> >>         The number of people developing EMF sensitivity is
> >>         skyrocketing daily. One day you're fine, next day you're no
> >>         longer able to tolerate being near a cellphone or wireless
> >>         router. I can no longer make one trip to a big box store
> >>         without getting sick. I have to rush the trip, getting out as
> >>         quickly as possible. And I can do very little of my beloved
> >>         graphic design.
> >>
> >>         You can find lots and lots of information on this topic at
> >>         https://www.ma4safetech.org, MA for Safe Technology. We just
> >>         had our monthly Zoom meeting today at noon.
> >>
> >>         Sorry if this was not welcomed information. But cognitive
> >>         dissonance be damned. There is really never a good time to
> >>         bring it up. It must be interjected.
> >>
> >>         To those who have endured, thanks for listening. Feel free to
> >>         write me, I can tell you about recently testifying at the NH
> >>         statehouse and how the Big Telecom attempted to send in their
> >>         Good Squad of lobbyists pretending to be there for personal
> >>         reasons, until my colleague ratted them out. I was elated at
> >>         her testicular fortitude.
> >>
> >>         Best,
> >>         Deb
> >>
> >>         On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 1:17 PM Michael Muller via
> >>         Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>             Hey hidden folks,
> >>
> >>             I are considering moving my cell service off Verizon to
> >>             AT&T, partly because we now go to Warwick a lot and have
> >>             zero Verizon service out there. We've seen people getting
> >>             texts and calls out near Moore's Pond, while we can't.
> >>
> >>             Anyone currently have AT&T or Sprint/T-Mobile and have
> >>             comparative stories to tell about coverage in the
> >>             "fringe" towns of Western Mass?
> >>
> >>             I don't want to say price is not important, but I'm
> >>             nervous about using a sub-carrier/MVNO that rides on
> >>             someone else's network. Especially because those services
> >>             sometimes have less data available, and we use a lot of data.
> >>
> >>             This website, below, seems to show coverage maps, and
> >>             declares: "AT&T has the widest network reach in
> >>             Massachusetts for both 4G LTE and 5G coverage, and takes
> >>             the title for the best network in the state. Verizon
> >>             comes in second for 4G LTE coverage, with T-Mobile
> >>             following very closely behind in third place—though the
> >>             Un-carrier's 5G coverage is almost neck and neck with
> >>             AT&T's state-best network."
> >>
> >>               * https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Best-Coverage-in-Massachusetts-USA
> >>                 <https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Best-Coverage-in-Massachusetts-USA>
> >>
> >>             Is that everyone's experience?
> >>
> >>             Does anyone use Boost Mobile, Metro or Cricket Wireless,
> >>             and what's your experience?
> >>
> >>             Thanks,
> >>
> >>             Mik
> >>
> >>             -- 
> >>             Mik Muller, president
> >>             Montague WebWorks
> >>             20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
> >>             413-320-5336
> >>             http://MontagueWebWorks.com  <http://MontagueWebWorks.com>
> >>             Powered by ROCKETFUSION
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