[Hidden-tech] Captcha help, please

[Stephen Michel]

That's an interesting perspective on having to run a web search for 
something. Personally, I feel the way you expressed about reCAPTCHA, 
whereas if I can search something and get the answer on the first page, 
that's way easier for me.

However, I think my overall point has been lost somewhat in the details.

The more important point with the hcoop example is that we've had a 
static question for many years. Every time I edit the wiki, I put in 
one of the same answers ("Richard" or "Carter"). The people who were 
spamming us could easily set their bot to know those two specific 
answers, and be able to spam us again. But they never cared enough to 
do that. I'm even comfortable posting the answers here, publicly!

What that all means is that you probably just need a tiny deterrent to 
be left alone.

Certainly, malicious people and bots are likely to try and protect 
their identity. I also definitely agree that you need to do something 
to stop them! Spam in general is a big problem, and reCAPTCHA does 
work…

The point I was trying to make is that it's a big over-reaction, with 
collateral damage. It's like setting up a gated community to stop a 
string of robberies, before locking your doors. In all likelihood, the 
criminal is just looking for easy targets, and will go elsewhere when 
you put up the slightest resistance. Something like "What is five plus 
two?" may be sufficient.

Best,
Stephen

P.S. I apologize for the length of these emails. I am quite busy 
(starting a new job) and lack the time to write a short one.

I also appreciate that the real bad guys here are the spammers. I wish 
we lived in a world where you didn't have to deal with this at all.
-- 
To respect your time, I try to write short, functional emails.

On Thu, Jan 20 2022 at 12:08:53 PM -0500, Shel Horowitz via 
Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> Thanks, all. Erik talked me through the installation this morning and 
> hopefully that will do the trick.
> 
> Stephen, I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience--but maybe 
> people who aggressively protect their privacy are more likely to 
> present security issues? That's certainly the case with phone 
> spammers. Personally, if I got hit with a challenge that required me 
> to Google the answers, I would walk away from that site unless I had 
> a super-compelling reason to go forward, like reviewing it for a 
> paying client.
> ᐧ
> 
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:07 PM Shel Horowitz 
> <shel at principledprofit.com> wrote:
>> Hi, everyone,
>> 
>> I got a note from GetResponse (my email newsletter host) that my 
>> account is suspended because one of my sites (my main one, 
>> GoingBeyondSustainability.com) is out of compliance with captcha and 
>> is being robobombed. I installed the Advanced noCaptcha and 
>> Invisible Captcha plugin but I can't figure out how to do anything 
>> with it.
>> 
>> Can someone either talk me through it or (better) let me hire them 
>> to get it all working (could be a different Captcha plugin--I have 
>> no particular attachment to this one)? My next newsletter is slated 
>> to mail on 2/14.
>> 
>> --
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> 
> 
> --
> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"
> ________________________________________________
> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger,
> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change
> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified
> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame
> * Certified speaker: International Platform Association
> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com
> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388
> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books.
> Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World
> (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)
> 
> Watch my TEDx Talk,
> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"
> http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809
> (move your mouse to "event videos")
> _________________________________________________
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