Thanks, Rich and Mik. I noticed that other pages on the site have the same problem, which means I messed something up when I was fixing the home page. Just to make sure, I went back to an Archive.org snapshot and clicked through to two of the articles, including https://web.archive.org/web/20160324165141/http://frugalfun.com/greener-holiday.html <https://web.archive.org/web/20160324165141/http://frugalfun.com/greener-holiday.html>. The sidebar menu was in place--which means there is no technical reason why a plain old html page can't get the menu in the sidebar. But when I go in directly to https://frugalfun.com/greener-holiday.html, the sidebar is blank. Php is way out of my depth. But that it's pandemic throughout the site means it's probably just a simple tweak of the home page code for someone who knows what they're doing--probably reinserting something I took out that I shouldn't have. I did save a copy of the code before I started messing around with it. And that the problem is not showing on the archived copy means that it *is* fixable in html. I did send the raw code for the home page Monday, subject line "Re: Little HTML code issue" (it's the first response to my original post). If anyone wants to take a look, I'm grateful, as always. On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 4:09 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Shel > you are reworking a CMS does - you probably should at least be using PHP > pages not simple html > > That code requires at least .shtml files that support the #include in your > example > Not knowing if your server even supports .shtml files any more -- if not - > most support .php now > On 7/27/2021 3:02 PM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > <!-- -------------------------------------- --> > <!--#include file="menu.shtml" --> > </td> > <td width="120" length="100%" valign=top bgcolor="#60a040" cellpadding="5"> > <!--#include file="sidebar.txt" --> > </td> > </tr> > <tr> > <td colspan="100%"> > <!--#include file="footer.txt" --> > </td> > </tr> > </table> > </body> > </html> > -- > What am I doing wrong? > > Many thanks, > > > -- > Rich Roth > CEO TnR Global > > Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com > Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com > Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com > And for Arts and relaxation:http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck > http://www.welovemuseums.com > http://www.artonmytv.com/ > Shakers: http://www.shakerpedia.com/ > Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -- Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" ________________________________________________ Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame * Certified speaker: International Platform Association http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) Watch my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") _________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20210728/67c54286/attachment-0001.html>