As a new developer this year I struggled with Wordpress and even a little bit with Squarespace before I learned full stack and Python. I personally use WIX right now and find that it is going to be the best for " handing it off to the client". WIX also allows " old school CSS " which is kind of a great feature. My business model is to build the site and teach the client how to run it. Chad On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 11:42 PM GLP via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > They all have a learning curve. I certainly don't consider SquareSpace all > that simple for end-users. That said, I don't have any issues with someone > using SquareSpace or Weebly if it does what they need. The ones I worry > about are things like Godaddy's page builder or something much more limited > in scope. That is the kind of thing that has disappeared before. By the > time you add a maintenance contract to a WordPress site, the client is > paying the same as they would (maybe more, if there are paid plugins or > they're getting gouged by the maintainer) for a hosted > platform. SquareSpace and Weebly are multi-million-dollar companies and > unlikely to disappear. And it's their sole/core business (unlike > Adobe Business Catalyst). I would feel much more comfortable setting > someone up on SquareSpace or Weebly than Joomla in terms of future support > and compatibility. > > Greg > > > > On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > Hi, folks. > > I have a client who is really set on using a web designer who works on > these proprietary platforms and doesn't do WordPress. I expressed concern > about these sites' lack of portability and got back this response: > > None of the platforms I work on can be independently hosted; they must be >> hosted on their proprietary platforms. WordPress sites can be hosted >> independently, but I chose not to work on WordPress because I find it hard >> to design on and hard for those who want to maintain their sites >> themselves. Most of my clients are ok with adding minor updates like new >> text on these platforms, but usually come back to me for adding new pages. >> With that said though, I chose Squarespace and Weebly (and Square Online, >> which runs on Weebly) because I deemed these were the easiest website >> builders for non-tech people to use after testing a number of products. > > > To which I replied (relevant excerpt)... > >> I know [Client] really wants to work with you, but I have deep concerns >> about building on a platform that the client can't control. If >> WordPress disappears, sites built in (but not hosted by) WordPress are >> fine, though they became more difficult to update. > > > I don't know if one can display the code from a Weebly or Squarespace >> site, copy it, and bring it to another host. If that is possible, if >> there's a way to strip out the parts of the code that are platform-specific >> and leave a functioning HTML page, I would be a lot more comfortable. >> Having seen Facebook first encourage and then sabotage FBML, and having >> seen properties like Plaxo and some of the early free webhosts go defunct >> and leave their users utterly stranded, I am not keen on building a site >> that can only be hosted by one specific host. > > -- > She is, of course, right about WordPress. When it first came out, it was > very easy to use, but now it often drives me nuts. I have one WP site > that's built in building blocks that I can't seem to locate, and have had > to go back to the designer (who is now unavailable) for very simple > changes. But I think nobody has to use those features unless they want to, > and it should be possible to design a site in less-fancy WordPress. And the > big thing for me is how nervous I am about not having more than one hosting > option. > > What would you do in my shoes? > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" > ________________________________________________ > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > * Certified speaker: International Platform Association > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. > Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World > (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > Watch my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > (move your mouse to "event videos") > _________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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