From gelinas.cw at gmail.com Wed Aug 4 10:21:55 2021 From: gelinas.cw at gmail.com (C G) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 06:21:55 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Paid help with VS Code, SSH and Digital Ocean. Message-ID: Greetings, I have been learning to code solo for over a year. I am at the point where I need employment and I am stuck. I cannot for the life of me connect VC code to my digital ocean droplet. I did it once before and now it will not work. I have spent close to 40 hours trying to figure it out and now I am desperate. Does anyone know a consultant I can pay to help organize my year of work so I can get a job? Many thanks. I was thinking that maybe my $PATH variable has too many initiations of me trying to make SSH work? The package Microsoft Remote SSH has been installed. I have the right droplet from Digital Ocean and I feel like this is so important for anyone to see a webpage on a server before I am taken seriously. 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Greenfield starts with theirs on Sunday, September 12th at the Recreational Park on Nash Mill Road, followed by the return of Montague's race on Sunday, September 19th at Unity Park. Both races are fundraisers for their respective town's Recreation Departments. American ingenuity will be on kinetic display and rewarded in these fun, family-friendly events. Each race will have trophies for the fastest three carts in each age division: kids, teens and adults, as well as several custom trophies for creative style. The Montague race will be called by veteran announcer Russ Brown, and Greenfield's race will be called by radio personality Kevin on Bear Country. Both races will have celebrity "Style Judges", with Rep. Natalie Blais and WRSI radio personality Monte Belmonte judging Montague's racer carts, and Rep Paul Mark and local artist Rachel Katz judging Greenfield's racer carts. Vendors will be on hand, as well as 50/50 raffles and the obligatory t-shirts and other collectables, all to raise funds for town recreational programs, such as scholarships for summer camp in Montague, and the coming-soon skate park in Greenfield. For the adventurous who wish to build a cart and enter the race, as well as those who wish to sponsor the race and maybe even individual teams, you can find the rules and forms on their respective websites: GreenfieldSoapboxRaces.com and MontagueSoapboxRaces.com . Both races are members of the Northeast Soapbox Association , a new venture by former Montague Soapbox Race Director and chair of the new Greenfield soapbox race committee, Mik Muller. "Building a simple cart out of scap materials with your own hands and racing it down a hill against other people in their carts, using only gravity for speed, is so satisfying," said Mr. Muller, who added "I am hoping the races will spread to other towns. I would very much like to help that happen." Anyone interested in keeping up on the latest developments, or volunteering or supporting either race, should go to the respective race websites. * GreenfieldSoapboxRaces.com * MontagueSoapboxRaces.com Anyone interested in starting a derby in their own town may contact Mr. Muller at NortheastSoapbox.org -- Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chaimpeck at gmail.com Thu Aug 5 04:51:44 2021 From: chaimpeck at gmail.com (Chaim Peck) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 00:51:44 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Paid help with VS Code, SSH and Digital Ocean. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would first confirm if you can ssh to the droplet from a regular terminal. If you can do that and cannot do so with the VS Code plugin, then it is probably a simple misconfiguration with the plugin. However, if you cannot ssh from the terminal, then you may need to recreate your key pair. Digital Ocean has some excellent documentation for things like that. - Jeff > On Aug 4, 2021, at 6:21 AM, C G via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Greetings, > I have been learning to code solo for over a year. I am at the point where I need employment and I am stuck. I cannot for the life of me connect VC code to my digital ocean droplet. I did it once before and now it will not work. I have spent close to 40 hours trying to figure it out and now I am desperate. Does anyone know a consultant I can pay to help organize my year of work so I can get a job? Many thanks. > > I was thinking that maybe my $PATH variable has too many initiations of me trying to make SSH work? The package Microsoft Remote SSH has been installed. I have the right droplet from Digital Ocean and I feel like this is so important for anyone to see a webpage on a server before I am taken seriously. > > Best, > Chad Gelinas > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members From andrew at stakeholderscapital.com Fri Aug 6 13:15:41 2021 From: andrew at stakeholderscapital.com (Andrew Bellak) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 09:15:41 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Fwd: We are hiring a Ruby on Rails engineer! References: <4bbcd122316798d4d4ecafa3e669cbe2@mlsend.com> Message-ID: Please contact Common Good directly. 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I expressed concern about these sites' lack of portability and got back this response: None of the platforms I work on can be independently hosted; they must be > hosted on their proprietary platforms. WordPress sites can be hosted > independently, but I chose not to work on WordPress because I find it hard > to design on and hard for those who want to maintain their sites > themselves. Most of my clients are ok with adding minor updates like new > text on these platforms, but usually come back to me for adding new pages. > With that said though, I chose Squarespace and Weebly (and Square Online, > which runs on Weebly) because I deemed these were the easiest website > builders for non-tech people to use after testing a number of products. To which I replied (relevant excerpt)... > I know [Client] really wants to work with you, but I have deep concerns > about building on a platform that the client can't control. If > WordPress disappears, sites built in (but not hosted by) WordPress are > fine, though they became more difficult to update. I don't know if one can display the code from a Weebly or Squarespace site, > copy it, and bring it to another host. If that is possible, if there's a > way to strip out the parts of the code that are platform-specific and leave > a functioning HTML page, I would be a lot more comfortable. > Having seen Facebook first encourage and then sabotage FBML, and having > seen properties like Plaxo and some of the early free webhosts go defunct > and leave their users utterly stranded, I am not keen on building a site > that can only be hosted by one specific host. -- She is, of course, right about WordPress. When it first came out, it was very easy to use, but now it often drives me nuts. I have one WP site that's built in building blocks that I can't seem to locate, and have had to go back to the designer (who is now unavailable) for very simple changes. But I think nobody has to use those features unless they want to, and it should be possible to design a site in less-fancy WordPress. And the big thing for me is how nervous I am about not having more than one hosting option. What would you do in my shoes? Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" ________________________________________________ Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame * Certified speaker: International Platform Association http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) Watch my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") _________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan at 8wheels.org Wed Aug 11 01:45:27 2021 From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 21:45:27 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Squarespace/Weebly vs. WordPress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4bdcc85e4caedc20d20b07ed4c717e9e@8wheels.org> Shel, There are other places that host Weebly, such as Pair (which I use, though not for Weebly--I just see their ads). --Alan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Hidden-tech] Squarespace/Weebly vs. WordPress Date: 10.08.2021 21:04 From: Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss To: Hidden-Tech Tech Hi, folks. I have a client who is really set on using a web designer who works on these proprietary platforms and doesn't do WordPress. I expressed concern about these sites' lack of portability and got back this response: > None of the platforms I work on can be independently hosted; they > must be hosted on their proprietary platforms. WordPress sites can > be hosted independently, but I chose not to work on WordPress > because I find it hard to design on and hard for those who want to > maintain their sites themselves. Most of my clients are ok with > adding minor updates like new text on these platforms, but usually > come back to me for adding new pages. With that said though, I chose > Squarespace and Weebly (and Square Online, which runs on Weebly) > because I deemed these were the easiest website builders for > non-tech people to use after testing a number of products. To which I replied (relevant excerpt)... > I know [Client] really wants to work with you, but I have deep > concerns about building on a platform that the client can't control. > If WordPress disappears, sites built in (but not hosted by) > WordPress are fine, though they became more difficult to update. > I don't know if one can display the code from a Weebly or > Squarespace site, copy it, and bring it to another host. If that is > possible, if there's a way to strip out the parts of the code that > are platform-specific and leave a functioning HTML page, I would be > a lot more comfortable. > Having seen Facebook first encourage and then sabotage FBML, and > having seen properties like Plaxo and some of the early free > webhosts go defunct and leave their users utterly stranded, I am not > keen on building a site that can only be hosted by one specific > host. -- She is, of course, right about WordPress. When it first came out, it was very easy to use, but now it often drives me nuts. I have one WP site that's built in building blocks that I can't seem to locate, and have had to go back to the designer (who is now unavailable) for very simple changes. But I think nobody has to use those features unless they want to, and it should be possible to design a site in less-fancy WordPress. And the big thing for me is how nervous I am about not having more than one hosting option. What would you do in my shoes? Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" ________________________________________________ Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame * Certified speaker: International Platform Association http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) Watch my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") _________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members From rich at tnrglobal.com Wed Aug 11 02:23:59 2021 From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 19:23:59 -0700 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Fwd: Squarespace/Weebly vs. WordPress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7758d9f7-4440-c8f5-f1b3-9cb2f1de8861@tnrglobal.com> I agree - I think refusing to use an open source platform is an excuse and an indicator of the weakness of the designer. It is also a method of locking in clients - just like requiring clients to give the designer control of their domain. That said, including that I personally prefer Wordpress after years of using various platforms including WP and Joomla, I think the reason being 'hard to maintain' is overplayed and a measure more of not properly training their clients and pushing web solutions for clients not really able to handle them. As such, there are simple approaches in design of templates that allow clients to do what they need. These may be designers but are not web designers and are likely to cut corners in the end. I will add there are specialty platforms that are not web sites that might fit clients better, Facebook/Instagram being two. Or an even more special one like Patreon Rich On 8/10/2021 6:04 PM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi, folks. > > I have a client who is really set on using a web designer who works on > these proprietary platforms and doesn't do WordPress. I expressed > concern about these sites' lack of portability and got back this response: > > None of the platforms I work on can be independently hosted; they > must be hosted on their proprietary platforms. WordPress sites can > be hosted independently, but I chose not to work on WordPress > because I find it hard to design on and hard for those who want to > maintain their sites themselves. Most of my clients are ok with > adding minor updates like new text on these platforms, but usually > come back to me for adding new pages. With that said though, I > chose Squarespace and Weebly (and Square Online, which runs on > Weebly) because I deemed these were the easiest website builders > for non-tech people to use after testing a number of products. > > > -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog:http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites:http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV:http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business:http://www.meetmewhere.com And for Arts and relaxation: http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Shakers:http://www.shakerpedia.com/ Helping move the world:http://www.earththrives.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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SquareSpace and Weebly are multi-million-dollar companies and unlikely to disappear. And it's their sole/core business (unlike Adobe Business Catalyst). I would feel much more comfortable setting someone up on SquareSpace or Weebly than Joomla in terms of future support and compatibility. Greg > On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Hi, folks. > > I have a client who is really set on using a web designer who works on these proprietary platforms and doesn't do WordPress. I expressed concern about these sites' lack of portability and got back this response: > > None of the platforms I work on can be independently hosted; they must be hosted on their proprietary platforms. WordPress sites can be hosted independently, but I chose not to work on WordPress because I find it hard to design on and hard for those who want to maintain their sites themselves. Most of my clients are ok with adding minor updates like new text on these platforms, but usually come back to me for adding new pages. With that said though, I chose Squarespace and Weebly (and Square Online, which runs on Weebly) because I deemed these were the easiest website builders for non-tech people to use after testing a number of products. > > To which I replied (relevant excerpt)... > I know [Client] really wants to work with you, but I have deep concerns about building on a platform that the client can't control. If WordPress disappears, sites built in (but not hosted by) WordPress are fine, though they became more difficult to update. > > I don't know if one can display the code from a Weebly or Squarespace site, copy it, and bring it to another host. If that is possible, if there's a way to strip out the parts of the code that are platform-specific and leave a functioning HTML page, I would be a lot more comfortable. > Having seen Facebook first encourage and then sabotage FBML, and having seen properties like Plaxo and some of the early free webhosts go defunct and leave their users utterly stranded, I am not keen on building a site that can only be hosted by one specific host. > -- > She is, of course, right about WordPress. When it first came out, it was very easy to use, but now it often drives me nuts. I have one WP site that's built in building blocks that I can't seem to locate, and have had to go back to the designer (who is now unavailable) for very simple changes. But I think nobody has to use those features unless they want to, and it should be possible to design a site in less-fancy WordPress. And the big thing for me is how nervous I am about not having more than one hosting option. > > What would you do in my shoes? > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" > ________________________________________________ > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > * Certified speaker: International Platform Association > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. > Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World > (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > Watch my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > (move your mouse to "event videos") > _________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gelinas.cw at gmail.com Wed Aug 11 13:43:57 2021 From: gelinas.cw at gmail.com (C G) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 09:43:57 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Squarespace/Weebly vs. WordPress In-Reply-To: <915B3AAC-B023-43AF-A0BF-D92EC1539ED7@gregperham.com> References: <915B3AAC-B023-43AF-A0BF-D92EC1539ED7@gregperham.com> Message-ID: As a new developer this year I struggled with Wordpress and even a little bit with Squarespace before I learned full stack and Python. I personally use WIX right now and find that it is going to be the best for " handing it off to the client". WIX also allows " old school CSS " which is kind of a great feature. My business model is to build the site and teach the client how to run it. Chad On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 11:42 PM GLP via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > They all have a learning curve. I certainly don't consider SquareSpace all > that simple for end-users. That said, I don't have any issues with someone > using SquareSpace or Weebly if it does what they need. The ones I worry > about are things like Godaddy's page builder or something much more limited > in scope. That is the kind of thing that has disappeared before. By the > time you add a maintenance contract to a WordPress site, the client is > paying the same as they would (maybe more, if there are paid plugins or > they're getting gouged by the maintainer) for a hosted > platform. SquareSpace and Weebly are multi-million-dollar companies and > unlikely to disappear. And it's their sole/core business (unlike > Adobe Business Catalyst). I would feel much more comfortable setting > someone up on SquareSpace or Weebly than Joomla in terms of future support > and compatibility. > > Greg > > > > On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > Hi, folks. > > I have a client who is really set on using a web designer who works on > these proprietary platforms and doesn't do WordPress. I expressed concern > about these sites' lack of portability and got back this response: > > None of the platforms I work on can be independently hosted; they must be >> hosted on their proprietary platforms. WordPress sites can be hosted >> independently, but I chose not to work on WordPress because I find it hard >> to design on and hard for those who want to maintain their sites >> themselves. Most of my clients are ok with adding minor updates like new >> text on these platforms, but usually come back to me for adding new pages. >> With that said though, I chose Squarespace and Weebly (and Square Online, >> which runs on Weebly) because I deemed these were the easiest website >> builders for non-tech people to use after testing a number of products. > > > To which I replied (relevant excerpt)... > >> I know [Client] really wants to work with you, but I have deep concerns >> about building on a platform that the client can't control. If >> WordPress disappears, sites built in (but not hosted by) WordPress are >> fine, though they became more difficult to update. > > > I don't know if one can display the code from a Weebly or Squarespace >> site, copy it, and bring it to another host. If that is possible, if >> there's a way to strip out the parts of the code that are platform-specific >> and leave a functioning HTML page, I would be a lot more comfortable. >> Having seen Facebook first encourage and then sabotage FBML, and having >> seen properties like Plaxo and some of the early free webhosts go defunct >> and leave their users utterly stranded, I am not keen on building a site >> that can only be hosted by one specific host. > > -- > She is, of course, right about WordPress. When it first came out, it was > very easy to use, but now it often drives me nuts. I have one WP site > that's built in building blocks that I can't seem to locate, and have had > to go back to the designer (who is now unavailable) for very simple > changes. But I think nobody has to use those features unless they want to, > and it should be possible to design a site in less-fancy WordPress. And the > big thing for me is how nervous I am about not having more than one hosting > option. > > What would you do in my shoes? > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" > ________________________________________________ > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > * Certified speaker: International Platform Association > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. > Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World > (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > Watch my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > (move your mouse to "event videos") > _________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tech at montaguewebworks.com Wed Aug 11 18:31:03 2021 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 14:31:03 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Squarespace/Weebly vs. WordPress In-Reply-To: References: <915B3AAC-B023-43AF-A0BF-D92EC1539ED7@gregperham.com> Message-ID: <9729a946-7da8-1738-36a3-8a4e13385962@montaguewebworks.com> We've had several clients come to us over the years because they couldn't deal with WordPress. One even said they were ready to "lay themselves down on the tracks" if they had to continue using it. We now have three sites with them. This is not to say our solution is the best, or even tenth best, but we give the less tech savvy customers a simple "click the red edit button, edit the text, click the red save changes button" style of interface. Not many bells and whistles and only a little click and dragginess. Our clients appear to like it and about 10% of them log in to add new content, sometimes sending me an email asking for a refresher. Not all clients are equal, and many of the clients other HT-ers have probably wouldn't like what we have, and so c'est la vie. Similar to Chad, our business model is to build the site, quickly and cheaply, and teach the client how to run it -- all while collecting the hosting fees for ourselves (instead of Wix, etc). As in the shaver industry, it's all about the blades. Mik Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION On 8/11/2021 9:43 AM, C G via Hidden-discuss wrote: > As a new developer this year I struggled with?Wordpress and even a > little bit with Squarespace before I learned full stack and Python. I > personally use WIX right now and find that it is going to be the best > for " handing?it off to the client". WIX also allows " old school CSS > " which is kind of a great feature. My business model is to build the > site and teach the client how to run it. > > Chad > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 11:42 PM GLP via Hidden-discuss > > wrote: > > They all have a learning curve. I certainly don't > consider?SquareSpace all that simple for end-users. That said, I > don't have any issues with someone using?SquareSpace or Weebly if > it does what they need. The ones I worry about are things like > Godaddy's page builder or?something much more limited in scope. > That is the kind of thing that has disappeared before. By the time > you add a maintenance contract to a?WordPress site, the client is > paying the same as they would (maybe more, if there are paid > plugins or they're getting gouged by the maintainer) for a hosted > platform.?SquareSpace and Weebly are multi-million-dollar > companies and unlikely to disappear. And it's their sole/core > business (unlike Adobe?Business Catalyst). I would feel much more > comfortable setting someone up on?SquareSpace or Weebly than > Joomla in terms of future support and compatibility. > > Greg > > > >> On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss >> > > wrote: >> >> Hi, folks. >> >> I have a client who is really set on using a web designer who >> works on these proprietary platforms and doesn't do WordPress. I >> expressed concern about these sites' lack of portability and got >> back this response: >> >> None of the platforms I work on can be independently hosted; >> they must be hosted on their proprietary platforms. WordPress >> sites can be hosted independently, but I chose not to work on >> WordPress because I find it hard to design on and hard for >> those who want to maintain their sites themselves. Most of my >> clients are ok with adding minor updates like new text on >> these platforms, but usually come back to me for adding new >> pages. With that said though, I chose Squarespace and Weebly >> (and Square Online, which runs on Weebly) because I deemed >> these were the easiest website builders for non-tech people >> to use after testing a number of products. >> >> >> To which I replied (relevant excerpt)... >> >> I know [Client] really wants to work with you, but I have >> deep concerns about building on a platform that the client >> can't control. If WordPress?disappears, sites built in (but >> not hosted?by) WordPress are fine, though they became more >> difficult to update. >> >> >> I don't?know if one can display the code from a Weebly or >> Squarespace site, copy it, and bring it to another host. If >> that is possible, if there's a way to strip out the parts of >> the code that are platform-specific and leave a functioning >> HTML page, I would be a lot more comfortable. >> Having seen Facebook first encourage and then sabotage FBML, >> and having seen properties like Plaxo and some of the early >> free webhosts go defunct and leave their users utterly >> stranded, I am not?keen on building a site that can only be >> hosted by one specific host. >> >> -- >> She is, of course, right about WordPress. When it first came out, >> it was very easy to use, but now it often drives me nuts. I have >> one WP site that's built in building blocks that I can't seem to >> locate, and have had to go back to the designer (who is now >> unavailable) for very simple changes. But I think nobody has to >> use those features unless they want to, and it should be possible >> to design a site in less-fancy WordPress. And the big thing for >> me is how nervous I am about not having more than one hosting option. >> >> What would you do in my shoes? >> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" >> ________________________________________________ >> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, >> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change >> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified >> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame >> * Certified speaker: International Platform Association >> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com >> >> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com >> 413-586-2388 >> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. >> Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World >> (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) >> >> Watch my TEDx Talk, >> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" >> http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 >> >> (move your mouse to "event videos") >> _________________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: >> http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech >> Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shel at principledprofit.com Wed Aug 11 21:51:23 2021 From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:51:23 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Squarespace/Weebly vs. WordPress In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many thanks to all of you who responded. I've passed it all on to the client. On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 9:04 PM Shel Horowitz wrote: > Hi, folks. > > I have a client who is really set on using a web designer who works on > these proprietary platforms and doesn't do WordPress. I expressed concern > about these sites' lack of portability and got back this response: > > None of the platforms I work on can be independently hosted; they must be >> hosted on their proprietary platforms. WordPress sites can be hosted >> independently, but I chose not to work on WordPress because I find it hard >> to design on and hard for those who want to maintain their sites >> themselves. Most of my clients are ok with adding minor updates like new >> text on these platforms, but usually come back to me for adding new pages. >> With that said though, I chose Squarespace and Weebly (and Square Online, >> which runs on Weebly) because I deemed these were the easiest website >> builders for non-tech people to use after testing a number of products. > > > To which I replied (relevant excerpt)... > >> I know [Client] really wants to work with you, but I have deep concerns >> about building on a platform that the client can't control. If >> WordPress disappears, sites built in (but not hosted by) WordPress are >> fine, though they became more difficult to update. > > > I don't know if one can display the code from a Weebly or Squarespace >> site, copy it, and bring it to another host. If that is possible, if >> there's a way to strip out the parts of the code that are platform-specific >> and leave a functioning HTML page, I would be a lot more comfortable. >> Having seen Facebook first encourage and then sabotage FBML, and having >> seen properties like Plaxo and some of the early free webhosts go defunct >> and leave their users utterly stranded, I am not keen on building a site >> that can only be hosted by one specific host. > > -- > She is, of course, right about WordPress. When it first came out, it was > very easy to use, but now it often drives me nuts. I have one WP site > that's built in building blocks that I can't seem to locate, and have had > to go back to the designer (who is now unavailable) for very simple > changes. But I think nobody has to use those features unless they want to, > and it should be possible to design a site in less-fancy WordPress. And the > big thing for me is how nervous I am about not having more than one hosting > option. > > What would you do in my shoes? > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" > ________________________________________________ > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > * Certified speaker: International Platform Association > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. > Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World > (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > Watch my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > (move your mouse to "event videos") > _________________________________________________ > > -- Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" ________________________________________________ Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame * Certified speaker: International Platform Association http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) Watch my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") _________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan at 8wheels.org Thu Aug 12 19:15:10 2021 From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 15:15:10 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Installing Linux --> Docker on Win10 In-Reply-To: References: <60ba33d7-29a8-488d-2ea5-0a98066cd9f7@deltafactory.com> Message-ID: But that's not the end of the story. I could run Fedora, but Docker still needed WSL2. It turns out that is possible, notwithstanding the MS document which says that it isn't. Going to the Docker community forum, I found https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/29175/installation-of-hyper-v-on-windows-10-home.html , which provides the instructions suggested in the URL. --Alan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Installing Linux --> Docker on Win10 Date: 29.07.2021 07:56 From: Alan Frank To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net I tracked down (with difficulty) the way to revert to WSL1 (https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/WSL/issues/590): wsl --set-default-version 1 After executing this, I was able to run Fedora. I appreciate some of the other suggestions, and they might have been theoretically better, but given that I felt I was most of the way there, I didn't want to start over with something new. Thanks to all, Alan From mckeeinc2000 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 24 22:51:38 2021 From: mckeeinc2000 at yahoo.com (Bonnie McKee) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 22:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hidden-tech] Tech Virtual Assistant Needed References: <1084569101.223242.1629845498156.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1084569101.223242.1629845498156@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, I'm a career coach setting up my business online, and I need a tech virtual assistant to help me set up my Facebook group and help me with tech aspects of FB for doing challenges and launches.? Please email me directly (mckeeinc2000 at yahoo.com) if you are interested. Or if you know someone who might be interested, I would appreciate your passing this along to them. Thanks very much! Best, Bonnie Bonnie McKeeDream Job, Dream Life -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kemipa at gmail.com Wed Aug 25 15:50:46 2021 From: kemipa at gmail.com (Keith Paul) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:50:46 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Google Analytics Message-ID: Hi all, I'm looking for a very established vendor or freelancer, either with deep experience and a portfolio specific to this request, to build custom Google Analytics dashboards. Requirements include: - executive-level brand view - 4+ division-level views that roll-up to executive-level - division-level widgets and/or toggles to navigate through product pages - users will not be GA-savvy Data views/widgets to include: - web and blog traffic - all marketing campaign (UTM) traffic - selected 3rd-party referrer traffic - "lift" views from TV/radio partners - inquiry form submission (goals) - network vs public visits - custom bitly referrals - social media referrals Also open to adopting a UTM taxonomy. Full build, testing, and implementation by December 31. Please reply if questions and/or leads. Thanks! 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I'd be happy to discuss bigger ROI opportunities as well. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Keith Paul via Hidden-discuss Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 11:50 AM To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: [Hidden-tech] Google Analytics Hi all, I'm looking for a very established vendor or freelancer, either with deep experience and a portfolio specific to this request, to build custom Google Analytics dashboards. Requirements include: * executive-level brand view * 4+ division-level views that roll-up to executive-level * division-level widgets and/or toggles to navigate through product pages * users will not be GA-savvy Data views/widgets to include: * web and blog traffic * all marketing campaign (UTM) traffic * selected 3rd-party referrer traffic * "lift" views from TV/radio partners * inquiry form submission (goals) * network vs public visits * custom bitly referrals * social media referrals Also open to adopting a UTM taxonomy. Full build, testing, and implementation by December 31. Please reply if questions and/or leads. Thanks! Keith Paul Director of Communications and Marketing Springfield Technical Community College -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dale at 2disc.com Tue Aug 31 18:24:41 2021 From: dale at 2disc.com (Dale Webb) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 18:24:41 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Google Analytics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Definitely Google Data Studio would be a better choice for these kinds of dashboards/visualizations than GA dashboards. Keith, would you like to schedule a quick call to discuss in greater detail? I could talk tomorrow (Wednesday) or Thursday. Thanks, Dale Webb | Digital Marketing Director DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-222-7686 dale at 2disc.com www.2disc.com ________________________________ From: Rob Laporte Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 2:53 PM To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net ; Keith Paul Cc: Dale Webb Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Google Analytics Hi Keith, That's a core service of our firm, or any good firm that does digital marketing. Pretty sure my firm's lead on this work, Dale Webb cc'd, would say Google Tag Manager (GTM) and maybe GA v4 are antecedent must-haves for any organization these days, then use Google's Data Studio. FYI, before ELMs monumental shakeup a couple of years ago, DISC did much for them, so we have a good sense of data needs in your field, not to mention tons of well-organized public (GA) data relevant to that job and much else for STCC. I'll leave to you and Dale to communicate further on the immediate project. I'd be happy to discuss bigger ROI opportunities as well. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Keith Paul via Hidden-discuss Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 11:50 AM To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: [Hidden-tech] Google Analytics Hi all, I'm looking for a very established vendor or freelancer, either with deep experience and a portfolio specific to this request, to build custom Google Analytics dashboards. Requirements include: * executive-level brand view * 4+ division-level views that roll-up to executive-level * division-level widgets and/or toggles to navigate through product pages * users will not be GA-savvy Data views/widgets to include: * web and blog traffic * all marketing campaign (UTM) traffic * selected 3rd-party referrer traffic * "lift" views from TV/radio partners * inquiry form submission (goals) * network vs public visits * custom bitly referrals * social media referrals Also open to adopting a UTM taxonomy. Full build, testing, and implementation by December 31. Please reply if questions and/or leads. Thanks! Keith Paul Director of Communications and Marketing Springfield Technical Community College -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: