From fred at smallbatchbooks.com Thu Sep 3 20:49:32 2020 From: fred at smallbatchbooks.com (Fred Levine) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:49:32 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for storage space for car In-Reply-To: <4776DD20-F77E-4359-A4A0-E9A01D7C6E80@gmail.com> References: <699015711.46260.1590526244207.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <699015711.46260.1590526244207@mail.yahoo.com> <9A35C43A-90F9-4F6F-B6BF-16C78F45F820@swinggraphics.com> Message-ID: <64C99DBE-4BE0-45C4-A689-7ADE30C32991@smallbatchbooks.com> This is a non-tech request, but I'm looking for a place to store a vintage car for a few months. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Fred Fred Levine Small Batch Books 493 S. Pleasant St. Amherst, MA 01002 413.230.3943 ? From debchandler411 at gmail.com Sun Sep 6 15:10:16 2020 From: debchandler411 at gmail.com (Deborah Chandler) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 11:10:16 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] *** Any experts on creating a GoFundMe? *** Message-ID: Hi folks, Do any of you have experience creating a successful GoFundMe campaign? If so, please let me know, and let me know how you get paid. Do some folks work for a percentage of donations? I have done a small one, for only a few hundred dollars, which was successful, but now I need to create a much larger one. Thanks, Deb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Scroll down to the "Handlers" section, and click the Manage Handlers button. Select your desired, *default email* client (e.g. Gmail). Thank you Lisa Totz LT Consulting 413-244-2506 lisa at ltconsults.com ltconsults.com On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 10:33 AM Ira Bryck via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hello > > > > There is a change in how Chrome responds, when I want to email myself a > website ? it used to open my outlook application, and all was well. > > > > Now it goes to Comcast email, which I don?t want, and can?t figure out how > to get it back to the way it was. > > > > Comcast seems mystified by my question, and says it has nothing to do with > them. > > > > Does anyone know how I can fix this? > > > > Thanks > > > > Ira Bryck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chrome> file share > email link goes to comcast email (bad) instead of > outlook (good, for many years) - how to reset to outlook (comcast says it > has nothing to do with them) > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ira at irabryck.com Tue Sep 8 19:20:34 2020 From: ira at irabryck.com (Ira Bryck) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 19:20:34 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] suddenly Chrome> file share > email link goes to comcast email (bad) instead of outlook (good, for many years) - how to reset to outlook (comcast says it has nothing to do with them) In-Reply-To: <1599580242.221623450@email.rackspace.com> References: <25035990-4257-4CFA-B894-EB5E76629230@irabryck.com> <1599576548.375326390@email.rackspace.com> <98AA10CF-9C36-4FF5-A6B7-404336F35FF7@irabryck.com> <1599580242.221623450@email.rackspace.com> Message-ID: Thank you all who contributed answers I tried a couple of your advices (?) and it was Max Hartshorne?s that was the direct fit! Even though I don?t use mail app, it was the settings in their that made chrome use outlook to share a site, via email. Much appreciated Ira Bryck From: Max Hartshorne Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 11:50 AM To: Ira Bryck Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] suddenly Chrome> file share > email link goes to comcast email (bad) instead of outlook (good, for many years) - how to reset to outlook (comcast says it has nothing to do with them) it's in your mac settings ,not Chrome. I think your mac has a default printer i get this same thing when i hit email it tries to make me use gmail, because that's my default email. First, launch the Mail client on your Mac (it's inside the Applications folder) and then go to Mail > Preferences. Click on the General tab and look for "Default email reader". Select another mail client or browser from the drop down menu and then close the Preferences window for your change to take effect.Jan 27, 2020 ----------------------- Max Hartshorne Editor GoNOMAD.com Travel P.O. Box 4 9 Mountain Rd. South Deerfield, MA 01373 413-624-6640 www.gonomad.com Writer's Guidelines My One minute. video about Content Marketing -----Original Message----- From: "Ira Bryck" Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:58am To: "Max Hartshorne" Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] suddenly Chrome> file share > email link goes to comcast email (bad) instead of outlook (good, for many years) - how to reset to outlook (comcast says it has nothing to do with them) Thanks I?ve looked for that setting, and don?t see it On Chrome for mac Can you tell me if you know where that is? Thanks Ira From: Max Hartshorne Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 10:49 AM To: Ira Bryck Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] suddenly Chrome> file share > email link goes to comcast email (bad) instead of outlook (good, for many years) - how to reset to outlook (comcast says it has nothing to do with them) your default email needs to be set to Outlook, instead of the Comcast email. ----------------------- Max Hartshorne Editor GoNOMAD.com Travel P.O. Box 4 9 Mountain Rd. South Deerfield, MA 01373 413-624-6640 www.gonomad.com Writer's Guidelines My One minute. video about Content Marketing -----Original Message----- From: "Ira Bryck via Hidden-discuss" Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 8:01am To: "hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net" Cc: "Hidden tech list" Subject: [Hidden-tech] suddenly Chrome> file share > email link goes to comcast email (bad) instead of outlook (good, for many years) - how to reset to outlook (comcast says it has nothing to do with them) Hello There is a change in how Chrome responds, when I want to email myself a website ? it used to open my outlook application, and all was well. Now it goes to Comcast email, which I don?t want, and can?t figure out how to get it back to the way it was. Comcast seems mystified by my question, and says it has nothing to do with them. Does anyone know how I can fix this? 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One printer option is? iGen, the other has an RGB converter. We have 2 options so far, one in FL, and one in NY, we are avoiding companies printing overseas. The questions are: ? ? 1) Is there a clear CMYK profile that we should pick ? ? 2) how precise?of a match do we really need, so how much bother is this ? ? ? 3) Should we really worried, and hence also make sure we get proof prints. ? ? 4) Any other printer company suggestions, initially 500 with boxes and more (we hope) to come. Also, other comments or suggests, or recommendations?of who to talk to welcome -- direct emails preferred?to me You can see the project at: http://www.tarotmuertos.com/ -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for Arts and relaxation: http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffrutherford at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 14:29:40 2020 From: jeffrutherford at gmail.com (Jeff Rutherford) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 10:29:40 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Salesforce-Pardot consultant Message-ID: Can anyone recommend a local or Boston-area Salesforce-Pardot consultant? 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They are written in Professional Write and need be converted into Microsoft Word.?* He also has the original install (floppy) disks for Professional Write as well as an external floppy disk drive with USB connection. Does someone have the equipment/software needed to do such a transfer, or do you have leads to someone who could? I did a quick online search to find FileMerlin can do such a transfer from Professional Write to MS Word, (See http://www.file-convert.com/flmn.htm) but I don?t know yet whether one would still need an older computer in order to even open the original files. (and anyone who has known me for a while, knows I am a Mac user and not so tech savvy; so I am the liaison here, just wanting to help a friend in need.) The floppies are currently in the Boston area; depending on where help is offered, I can facilitate the delivery within a reasonable driving distance. Thanks in advance, Deb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgdutton7 at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 19:21:49 2020 From: cgdutton7 at gmail.com (Christine Dutton) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:21:49 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Seeking MS 365 Trainer Message-ID: Hello, Does anyone know of any localish MS 365 trainers that train organizations on use to include taams/channels/apps/a general overview.? Thank you! Christine *Christine Dutton* *Dutton Consulting * *413-626-6377* *Find me on Facebook here! * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmaterialized at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 19:42:59 2020 From: dmaterialized at gmail.com (DM Cook) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:42:59 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Need to transfer files from Professional Write to Microsoft Word * * * In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If the content is just text, then it would be easier to locate a file utility that can simply comb the document for text, then copy and paste that into Word. The most critical aspect of this is actually the floppy drive you choose to use. Attempting to work with the old disks can be very tricky and they can be damaged (and data lost) fairly easily. Unfortunately I can't recommend specific floppy drive brands, etc., but that is the first hurdle, followed by trying to read and copy files from the disk, followed by the actual process of extracting text. DM Cook Instructional Designer & Technical Writer On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:21 PM Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hi folks, > > > A colleague needs some files transferred. Here?s what he says: > > > *?The 3 1/2 in floppy disks have data from all my Speeches and > Reports. They were written on an IBM computer of 80's and 90's vintage > where data storage on the Hard Drive was different. I have not been able > to read the disks, my computer telling me they are corrupt. This is not > so. They are written in Professional Write and need be converted into > Microsoft Word.?* > > > He also has the original install (floppy) disks for Professional Write as > well as an external floppy disk drive with USB connection. > > > Does someone have the equipment/software needed to do such a transfer, or > do you have leads to someone who could? I did a quick online search to find > FileMerlin can do such a transfer from Professional Write to MS Word, (See > http://www.file-convert.com/flmn.htm) but I don?t know yet whether one > would still need an older computer in order to even open the original > files. (and anyone who has known me for a while, knows I am a Mac user and > not so tech savvy; so I am the liaison here, just wanting to help a friend > in need.) > > > The floppies are currently in the Boston area; depending on where help is > offered, I can facilitate the delivery within a reasonable driving > distance. > > > Thanks in advance, > > Deb > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shel at principledprofit.com Fri Sep 11 20:38:40 2020 From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:38:40 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Need to transfer files from Professional Write to Microsoft Word * * * In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It sounds like the first issue you're having is being able to read the disks. Have you tried them on your friend's external floppy? They have to be in a format where the computer can recognize the information. As an example, the 3.5 floppies of early Macs, PCs, and the external drive I had for my long-ago Tandy 100 were not cross compatible. Once you find a machine that can read the disks (assuming they are actually still good), here are three things can try: 1. Install the Professional Write program and see if you can export text or RTF files 2. Use Word's Open Any File option and expect to see the raw text surrounded top and bottom by some code garbage you can get rid of 3. Get a copy of Nisus Writer, a Mac word processing program that has extremely powerful macro and file conversion capabilities. I believe Nisus is still in business and no longer charging for the product. See if it will open the files. Good luck! Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" ________________________________________________ Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame * Certified speaker: International Platform Association http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) Watch my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") _________________________________________________ On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:59 PM Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hi folks, > > > A colleague needs some files transferred. Here?s what he says: > > > *?The 3 1/2 in floppy disks have data from all my Speeches and > Reports. They were written on an IBM computer of 80's and 90's vintage > where data storage on the Hard Drive was different. I have not been able > to read the disks, my computer telling me they are corrupt. This is not > so. They are written in Professional Write and need be converted into > Microsoft Word.?* > > > He also has the original install (floppy) disks for Professional Write as > well as an external floppy disk drive with USB connection. > > > Does someone have the equipment/software needed to do such a transfer, or > do you have leads to someone who could? I did a quick online search to find > FileMerlin can do such a transfer from Professional Write to MS Word, (See > http://www.file-convert.com/flmn.htm) but I don?t know yet whether one > would still need an older computer in order to even open the original > files. (and anyone who has known me for a while, knows I am a Mac user and > not so tech savvy; so I am the liaison here, just wanting to help a friend > in need.) > > > The floppies are currently in the Boston area; depending on where help is > offered, I can facilitate the delivery within a reasonable driving > distance. > > > Thanks in advance, > > Deb > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tech at montaguewebworks.com Mon Sep 14 13:32:45 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:32:45 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Need to transfer files from Professional Write to Microsoft Word * * * In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I also use Textpad in situations like this where the original editor is not available. Textpad can open anything, and has great macro options to help clean up any files. Mik --- Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION On 9/11/2020 4:38 PM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss wrote: > It sounds like the first issue you're having is being able to read the > disks. Have you tried them on your friend's external floppy? They have > to be in a format where the computer can recognize the information. As > an example, the 3.5 floppies of early Macs, PCs, and the external > drive I had for my long-ago Tandy 100 were not cross compatible. > > Once you find a machine that can read the disks (assuming they are > actually still good), here are three things can try: > > 1. Install the Professional Write program and see if you can export > text or RTF files > 2. Use Word's Open Any File option and expect to see the raw text > surrounded top and bottom by some code garbage you can get rid of > 3. Get a copy of Nisus Writer, a Mac word processing program that has > extremely powerful macro and file conversion capabilities. I > believe?Nisus is still in business and no longer charging for the > product. See if it will open the files. > > Good luck! > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" > ________________________________________________ > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > * Certified speaker: International Platform Association > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com > 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. > Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World > (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > Watch my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > (move your mouse to "event videos") > _________________________________________________ > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:59 PM Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss > > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > A colleague needs some files transferred. Here?s what he says: > > > /?The 3 1/2 in floppy disks have data from all my Speeches and > Reports.?They were written on an IBM computer of 80's and 90's > vintage where data storage on the Hard Drive was different.? I > have not been able to read the disks, my computer telling me > they are corrupt. This is not so.? They are written in > Professional Write and need be converted into Microsoft Word.?/ > > > He also has the original install (floppy) disks for Professional > Write as well as an external floppy disk drive with USB connection. > > > Does someone have the equipment/software needed to do such a > transfer, or do you have leads to someone who could? I did a quick > online search to find FileMerlin can do such a transfer from > Professional Write to MS Word, (See > http://www.file-convert.com/flmn.htm) but I don?t know yet whether > one would still need an older computer in order to even open the > original files. (and anyone who has known me for a while, knows I > am a Mac user and not so tech savvy; so I am the liaison here, > just wanting to help a friend in need.) > > > The floppies are currently in the Boston area; depending on where > help is offered, I can facilitate the delivery within a reasonable > driving distance. > > > Thanks in advance, > > Deb > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at tnrglobal.com Mon Sep 14 20:45:23 2020 From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:45:23 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for a used laptop Message-ID: I got a request for a used laptop, given the description it needs to be newer than the older machines I have around. SO suggestions or offers welcome - including suggestions of commercial used machine sellers, although local would be preferable. ??? ??? ??? please email offline. > Needs s a PC.? He anticipates doing Zoom meetings, so it would ideally > have a mic and camera.? He is a heavy Excel user ie. Excel files of > roughly a mega byte in size. Thanks for any input, Rich -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for Arts and relaxation: http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com From davesu93 at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 14:43:18 2020 From: davesu93 at gmail.com (d.) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:43:18 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for a used laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, lovely H-Tech-ers: I need to share a story about H-T. Six years ago I started collecting discarded pc's and laptops to recycle to needy disabled vets in our area. Last week I was emailing out a survey to disabled vets and instructors and accidentally butt-dialed someone for whom I only had a first name and "vet" in my contacts. I didn't know who it was but I immediately cut off the call and thought I was faster than the cell company electrons. The next day he called me back and asked my name. He thought he recognized my number and said he'd just been telling someone at work about this program that provided him with a pc many years ago and it was a god-send. It allowed him to go to school. He got sober, he got a Bachelor's degree, then went on to get a Master's in Social Work, and now he works in a social services agency in Springfield, and he's stayed sober; all because of getting that computer. I had no idea because I'd never heard from him or followed up or even had any other contact info like a last name. That was a lucky butt-dial. Often we don't get feedback on our actions that get forgotten and hidden in the mists of time. I thought H-T should know that some of your simple, thoughtful actions have powerful, positive effects. Keep it up. Thanks, Dave Su On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:48 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I got a request for a used laptop, given the description it needs to be > newer than the older machines I have around. SO suggestions or offers > welcome - including suggestions of commercial used machine sellers, > although local would be preferable. please email offline. > > Needs s a PC. He anticipates doing Zoom meetings, so it would ideally > > have a mic and camera. He is a heavy Excel user ie. Excel files of > > roughly a mega byte in size. > Thanks for any input, Rich > Rich Roth > CEO TnR Global > Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com > Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com > Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com > And for Arts and relaxation: > http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck > http://www.welovemuseums.com > http://www.artonmytv.com/ > Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomadams at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 15:21:57 2020 From: tomadams at gmail.com (Tom Adams ~ Reelife Productions & Folktography) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:21:57 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for a used laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: right on. we're all connected and it's so nice to be rewarded in these ways. it's been so nice to be a part of this group over all these years. cheers to us hidden-techers far and wide... *Regards,* *Tom Adams, Director/Owner* *Reelife Documentary Productions ? **Folktography by Tom* *Cool Media Production...Not Boring or Dumb.* *Educating, Entertaining & Enlightening since 1996* *(413) 575-9707* * ? Williamsburg, MA* On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:50 AM d. via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hi, lovely H-Tech-ers: > > I need to share a story about H-T. > > Six years ago I started collecting discarded pc's and laptops to recycle > to needy disabled vets in our area. Last week I was emailing out a survey > to disabled vets and instructors and accidentally butt-dialed someone for > whom I only had a first name and "vet" in my contacts. I didn't know who > it was but I immediately cut off the call and thought I was faster than the > cell company electrons. The next day he called me back and asked my name. > He thought he recognized my number and said he'd just been telling someone > at work about this program that provided him with a pc many years ago and > it was a god-send. It allowed him to go to school. He got sober, he got a > Bachelor's degree, then went on to get a Master's in Social Work, and now > he works in a social services agency in Springfield, and he's stayed sober; > all because of getting that computer. I had no idea because I'd never > heard from him or followed up or even had any other contact info like a > last name. That was a lucky butt-dial. > > Often we don't get feedback on our actions that get forgotten and hidden > in the mists of time. I thought H-T should know that some of your simple, > thoughtful actions have powerful, positive effects. Keep it up. > > Thanks, > Dave Su > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 4:48 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> I got a request for a used laptop, given the description it needs to be >> newer than the older machines I have around. SO suggestions or offers >> welcome - including suggestions of commercial used machine sellers, >> although local would be preferable. please email offline. >> > Needs s a PC. He anticipates doing Zoom meetings, so it would ideally >> > have a mic and camera. He is a heavy Excel user ie. Excel files of >> > roughly a mega byte in size. >> Thanks for any input, Rich >> Rich Roth >> CEO TnR Global >> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com >> Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com >> Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com >> And for Arts and relaxation: >> http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck >> http://www.welovemuseums.com >> http://www.artonmytv.com/ >> Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just Roots is looking for someone to help us build out our database that allows us to keep track of all our programs/people/staff/payments etc, as well as connect us to healthcare institutions so care teams can provide referrals and prescriptions of of Just Roots produce to their patients. The consultant role will guide the development of this tech build-out, and will work with our team immediately through July 2021. As our team doesn't typically hire people who specialize in technology, we don't have a depth of knowledge as to where to post or how to find the right fit for this role. Any connections or recommendations you have for getting this posting to the right people is so appreciated and will make our work all the better in the future! Feel free to put me in touch with people, ask questions etc. The job opportunity posting is attached. THANK YOU! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at tnrglobal.com Fri Sep 18 15:46:41 2020 From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:46:41 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Anyone selling though amazon (read carefully before asnwering) Message-ID: <9809c8d1-93a4-df52-0f31-b9865c2167fd@tnrglobal.com> Ok, I don't mean just listing on Amazon as a seller, been doing that for a number of years, and I know a fair bit about doing that. I mean whatever it takes to have them ship it for free to a Amazon Prime buyer. I believe it requires shipping large(r) quantities to their warehouse. Not looking for google references (I have done that) however any suggestion of people doing it they know would be helpful. Email me directly. -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for Arts and relaxation: http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com From elyssa.serrilli at gmail.com Fri Sep 18 23:24:44 2020 From: elyssa.serrilli at gmail.com (Elyssa Serrilli) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 19:24:44 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Fwd: Technology consultant -- help us find the right fit! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One of my employers is looking for database help... Great local farm with an innovative, broad-reaching social justice mission... and yummy veggies. in Service to *Elyssa Marie Serrilli * pronouns: fae, faer ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Rochelle Bellin Date: Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 1:48 PM Subject: Technology consultant -- help us find the right fit! To: Just Roots Staff , Just Roots Board < board at justroots.org>, Elyssa Serrilli Hi team! Do you know anyone who works in database/software technology, someone who may be connected to people in database/software technology, or know of places to post jobs for software/technology consultants? Just Roots is looking for someone to help us build out our database that allows us to keep track of all our programs/people/staff/payments etc, as well as connect us to healthcare institutions so care teams can provide referrals and prescriptions of of Just Roots produce to their patients. The consultant role will guide the development of this tech buildout, and will work with our team immediately through July 2021. As our team doesn't typically hire people who specialize in technology, we don't have a depth of knowledge as to where to post or how to find the right fit for this role. Any connections or recommendations you have for getting this posting to the right people is so appreciated and will make our work all the better in the future! Feel free to put me in touch with people, ask questions etc. The job opportunity posting is attached. THANK YOU! Best, R -- Rochelle Bellin Just Roots :: Associate Director she/her/hers e: rochelle at justroots.org p: 413.325.8969 justroots.org Just Roots*: Increasing access to healthy local food by connecting people, land, resources and know-how.* *Due to COVID-19, Just Roots office is currently closed to the public except by appointment. 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I would be glad to meet and talk to you about what your technology needs are. Don (860) 614-4153 Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Elyssa Serrilli via Hidden-discuss Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 7:24:44 PM To: hidden-discuss ; Rochelle Bellin Subject: [Hidden-tech] Fwd: Technology consultant -- help us find the right fit! One of my employers is looking for database help... Great local farm with an innovative, broad-reaching social justice mission... and yummy veggies. in Service to [https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0ByscriOAZfcvbTVyNnhBMG11ejA&revid=0ByscriOAZfcvc3VoanlGTGMxalJ1eEM3RSttVDZUcVNkbkVrPQ] Elyssa Marie Serrilli pronouns: fae, faer ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Rochelle Bellin > Date: Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 1:48 PM Subject: Technology consultant -- help us find the right fit! To: Just Roots Staff >, Just Roots Board >, Elyssa Serrilli > Hi team! Do you know anyone who works in database/software technology, someone who may be connected to people in database/software technology, or know of places to post jobs for software/technology consultants? Just Roots is looking for someone to help us build out our database that allows us to keep track of all our programs/people/staff/payments etc, as well as connect us to healthcare institutions so care teams can provide referrals and prescriptions of of Just Roots produce to their patients. The consultant role will guide the development of this tech buildout, and will work with our team immediately through July 2021. As our team doesn't typically hire people who specialize in technology, we don't have a depth of knowledge as to where to post or how to find the right fit for this role. Any connections or recommendations you have for getting this posting to the right people is so appreciated and will make our work all the better in the future! Feel free to put me in touch with people, ask questions etc. The job opportunity posting is attached. THANK YOU! Best, R -- Rochelle Bellin Just Roots :: Associate Director she/her/hers e: rochelle at justroots.org p: 413.325.8969 justroots.org Just Roots: Increasing access to healthy local food by connecting people, land, resources and know-how. Due to COVID-19, Just Roots office is currently closed to the public except by appointment. If you need assistance, we do have one team member working in the office during regular business hours; please call 413-325-8969 or email (info at justroots.org) to schedule an appointment. Thank you for your patience and understanding as we practice physical distancing. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: Albert Kaufman Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 1:21 PM To: Shel Horowitz Cc: Harry Flood ; Rob Laporte ; Hidden-Tech Tech Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] A Business Idea: a Local Borrowing Exchange per your discussion below - there is plenty of this type of sharing activity on Nextdoor. There are also Buy Nothing Project groups on FB that help with this. And Be Neighborly groups there, too. At least in Portlandia. Albert On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 7:32 PM Shel Horowitz > wrote: A new friend in Portland (Oregon) is using NextDoor very effectively for environmental organizing. https://albertideation.com/neighborhoodnotes Rob, LMK if you'd like an intro. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" ________________________________________________ Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame * Certified speaker: International Platform Association http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) Watch my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") _________________________________________________ On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 5:40 PM Harry Flood via Hidden-discuss > wrote: Would this work effectively on the Nextdoor website which is already operational in the area? Harry Harry J Flood Chief Financial Officer Mediaspectrum, Inc. On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 8:00 PM Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss > wrote: I?ve long meant to suggest here (and hope I did not already and forgot) for enterprising souls the business idea of making a website for listing things one would loan and borrow locally. If it could be done efficiently, the Uber and Airbnb model of deploying idle capital could apply to the countless things we all have but use rarely, like spray painters, lawn dethatchers, hand-trucks, battery testers that actually work, ladders, coin roll-makers, shop vacs, all kind of tools powered or not, etc. I?ve not given it a lot of thought, and I know there would be issues to manage, not least the revenue model, but just throwing it out there. Perhaps after developing the concept, one could sell it to the likes of NextDoor.com. In this economy, there may be some talent with time to give it more thought. 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A huge study (n>50,000) in Spain recently confirmed the benefits of vitamin D in Covid, with far more impressive and statistically reliable results than, for example, the ~$3300 per treatment Remdesivir. Note that I would not post anything here or anywhere about Covid that does not reference solid science entailing peer-reviewed (or in process of that) studies. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From annamarie at PatientSympatheticCoaching.com Sun Sep 20 18:30:17 2020 From: annamarie at PatientSympatheticCoaching.com (Annamarie Pluhar) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 14:30:17 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Any "vintage" software collectors? In-Reply-To: <008101d68f58$365a4d30$a30ee790$@sohorganizer.com> References: <008101d68f58$365a4d30$a30ee790$@sohorganizer.com> Message-ID: A quick google found this: https://www.greendisk.com/gdsite/Default.aspx I was interested because I too have old disks? Annamarie Annamarie Pluhar [Patient, Sympathetic Coaching](http://patientsympatheticcoaching.com) On 20 Sep 2020, at 10:13, Charles--- via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi HT'ers, > > I have a somewhat large collection of DOS based software on floppy disks. > > Included are American Online disks on floppies and hard disk floppies. > > > > Would anyone be interested in them? > > I really don't want to put them in a landfill. > > > > Thanks, > > Charles > > > > Helping those who LOVE their work, but HATE their paperwork. > > Charles D. Lappen, M.Ed. > The SOHOrganizer > Small Office / Home Office > Administrative Support Services > > Office: 413-624-5507 1 Gilbert Drive > Cell: 617-797-7646 Colrain, MA 01340 > Fax: 413-726-6821 > > P Please consider the environment before printing this email > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have no need for a weekly or monthly commitment.* I will likely need this space one day this week, but I don't know yet which day, as the situation causing my need is out of my control. Challenging times, all around... Thanks, Deb * Footnote: It looks like Click Workspace in Northampton has a minimum of a month commitment. And Amherstworks' website doesn't show pricing for a private room for one day. I am not familiar with any other coworking spaces in our area. Are you? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.medicineb at gmail.com Sun Sep 20 16:38:48 2020 From: john.medicineb at gmail.com (john coster) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 12:38:48 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rob, I?m so glad to hear that you have been following Chris? work and wish you all the best with your recovery. His coverage of the crisis has put to shame the terribly flawed journalism that the major media have been displaying throughout the last eight months. When they get something right, it?s usually many weeks after Martenson has made the same point. Politics and financial gain have no place In scientific discussions, but both on the left and right, these factors have dominated. The corruption of science by private agendas may be ultimately a bigger threat than Covid itself though in no way do I mean to diminish the gravity of this disease and it?s suspicious origins. Like you, I urge people who want a fuller understanding of this situation to look at Martenson?s work. Many lives could have been saved had more people done so. On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:23 PM Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > I feel compelled to acknowledge publicly the very valuable service that > local Chris Martenson provided in his ~6 months of unpacking the science of > the pandemic at his YouTube channel > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w . He stopped > regular posts recently, but I highly recommend his recent ones about the > science (studies, data) on how important vitamin D is in preventing Covid > and reducing its impact. One of those videos points to an MD's channel that > also has excellent reviews of the science, still going. > > I'm a Covid "Long-Hauler" who experienced far worse health effects than my > ~3 week initial infection March-April, and vitamin D seems to have done > wonders. It plays a very specific role in Covid's biochemical cascade > (explained in the above videos). A huge study (n>50,000) in Spain recently > confirmed the benefits of vitamin D in Covid, with far more impressive and > statistically reliable results than, for example, the ~$3300 per treatment > Remdesivir. > > Note that I would not post anything here or anywhere about Covid that does > not reference solid science entailing peer-reviewed (or in process of that) > studies. > > Take Care, > > > Rob Laporte > > Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman > > DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money > > 413-584-6500 > > rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com > > > > *NOTE:* Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you > don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bram at greenfielddigital.com Sun Sep 20 16:41:52 2020 From: bram at greenfielddigital.com (Bram Moreinis) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 12:41:52 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: His definition of Integrity as "open to any ideas from anywhere" is kinda the opposite of mine, Rob. I don't know that Hidden Tech is the place to have this discussion -- kinda surprised it made it through the "moderator" -- but to me, while an "open mind" is the gateway to integrity, the qualifier of integrity is that we check what comes un against what we already know,? and what we already know is an organized system of information we've checked against past experience and trusted epistemologies (ways of knowing what's true). Having an open mind without having such an internal, organized, and cross-referenced system of understanding means being susceptible, in my book. Regarding Chris Martenson - how much "junk silver" did you stockpile in 2007? -Bram On 9/20/2020 10:32 AM, Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi All, > > I feel compelled to acknowledge publicly the very valuable service > that local Chris Martenson provided in his ~6 months of unpacking the > science of the pandemic at his YouTube channel > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w?. He stopped > regular posts recently, but I highly recommend his recent ones about > the science (studies, data) on how important vitamin D is in > preventing Covid and reducing its impact. One of those videos points > to an MD's channel that also has excellent reviews of the science, > still going. > > I'm a Covid "Long-Hauler" who experienced far worse health effects > than my ~3 week initial infection March-April, and vitamin D seems to > have done wonders. It plays a very specific role in Covid's > biochemical cascade (explained in the above videos). A huge study > (n>50,000) in Spain recently confirmed the benefits of vitamin D in > Covid, with far more impressive and statistically reliable results > than, for example, the ~$3300 per treatment Remdesivir. > > Note that I would not post anything here or anywhere about Covid that > does not reference solid science entailing peer-reviewed (or in > process of that) studies. > > Take Care, > > > Rob Laporte > > Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman > > DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money > > 413-584-6500 > > rob at 2disc.com ?| LinkedIn > | 2DISC.com > > > *NOTE:*?Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If > you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob at 2disc.com Sun Sep 20 17:35:47 2020 From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 17:35:47 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Well said John, and true. And yes, the evidence is beyond reasonable that "corruption of science by private agendas may be ultimately a bigger threat than Covid itself." And yikes, it has indeed been 8 months, not as I said 6, that Chris has been saving and improving lives via his Covid videos. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: john coster Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:38 PM To: Rob Laporte Cc: Chris Martenson ; hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson Rob, I?m so glad to hear that you have been following Chris? work and wish you all the best with your recovery. His coverage of the crisis has put to shame the terribly flawed journalism that the major media have been displaying throughout the last eight months. When they get something right, it?s usually many weeks after Martenson has made the same point. Politics and financial gain have no place In scientific discussions, but both on the left and right, these factors have dominated. The corruption of science by private agendas may be ultimately a bigger threat than Covid itself though in no way do I mean to diminish the gravity of this disease and it?s suspicious origins. Like you, I urge people who want a fuller understanding of this situation to look at Martenson?s work. Many lives could have been saved had more people done so. On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:23 PM Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss > wrote: Hi All, I feel compelled to acknowledge publicly the very valuable service that local Chris Martenson provided in his ~6 months of unpacking the science of the pandemic at his YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w . He stopped regular posts recently, but I highly recommend his recent ones about the science (studies, data) on how important vitamin D is in preventing Covid and reducing its impact. One of those videos points to an MD's channel that also has excellent reviews of the science, still going. I'm a Covid "Long-Hauler" who experienced far worse health effects than my ~3 week initial infection March-April, and vitamin D seems to have done wonders. It plays a very specific role in Covid's biochemical cascade (explained in the above videos). A huge study (n>50,000) in Spain recently confirmed the benefits of vitamin D in Covid, with far more impressive and statistically reliable results than, for example, the ~$3300 per treatment Remdesivir. Note that I would not post anything here or anywhere about Covid that does not reference solid science entailing peer-reviewed (or in process of that) studies. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob at 2disc.com Sun Sep 20 18:09:36 2020 From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 18:09:36 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Whoops, I meant, "beyond reasonable doubt". ________________________________ From: Rob Laporte Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 1:35 PM To: john coster Cc: Chris Martenson ; hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson Well said John, and true. And yes, the evidence is beyond reasonable that "corruption of science by private agendas may be ultimately a bigger threat than Covid itself." And yikes, it has indeed been 8 months, not as I said 6, that Chris has been saving and improving lives via his Covid videos. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: john coster Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 12:38 PM To: Rob Laporte Cc: Chris Martenson ; hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson Rob, I?m so glad to hear that you have been following Chris? work and wish you all the best with your recovery. His coverage of the crisis has put to shame the terribly flawed journalism that the major media have been displaying throughout the last eight months. When they get something right, it?s usually many weeks after Martenson has made the same point. Politics and financial gain have no place In scientific discussions, but both on the left and right, these factors have dominated. The corruption of science by private agendas may be ultimately a bigger threat than Covid itself though in no way do I mean to diminish the gravity of this disease and it?s suspicious origins. Like you, I urge people who want a fuller understanding of this situation to look at Martenson?s work. Many lives could have been saved had more people done so. On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:23 PM Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss > wrote: Hi All, I feel compelled to acknowledge publicly the very valuable service that local Chris Martenson provided in his ~6 months of unpacking the science of the pandemic at his YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w . He stopped regular posts recently, but I highly recommend his recent ones about the science (studies, data) on how important vitamin D is in preventing Covid and reducing its impact. One of those videos points to an MD's channel that also has excellent reviews of the science, still going. I'm a Covid "Long-Hauler" who experienced far worse health effects than my ~3 week initial infection March-April, and vitamin D seems to have done wonders. It plays a very specific role in Covid's biochemical cascade (explained in the above videos). A huge study (n>50,000) in Spain recently confirmed the benefits of vitamin D in Covid, with far more impressive and statistically reliable results than, for example, the ~$3300 per treatment Remdesivir. Note that I would not post anything here or anywhere about Covid that does not reference solid science entailing peer-reviewed (or in process of that) studies. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at on-the-net.com Sun Sep 20 20:15:48 2020 From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:15:48 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Any "vintage" software collectors? In-Reply-To: <008101d68f58$365a4d30$a30ee790$@sohorganizer.com> References: <008101d68f58$365a4d30$a30ee790$@sohorganizer.com> Message-ID: <8b469458-e467-250e-a566-c2db1574ec29@on-the-net.com> There are a number of facebook groups about such, for one try: ??? ??? https://www.facebook.com/groups/1233645553343772 Also, there is the Computer History Museum in SF: ??? ??? https://computerhistory.org/ Personally I have pallets of the stuff (yes, pallets, not just boxes) and have been working to place some of them. The issue with software on old disks (and any sort) is that they very often get corrupted and so are not readable. There is a curator from the CHM who lives locally, I'll email him if see if there is any interest there. There are a quite a number of groups that discuss these topics, this is a hodgepost collection of mine that might be useful: ??? ??? http://scut.thrivesmedia.com/tags.php/tech%20history Let us know if you have any luck. (and for the person who posted about Greendisk - there are services that will reprocess instead of just dumping these, I put some related companies at: http://www.hidden-tech.net/project/free-cycle-and-share/ Some are about recycling rather than reuse Rich On 9/20/2020 10:13 AM, Charles--- via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Hi HT?ers, > > I have a somewhat large collection of DOS based software on floppy disks. > > Included are American Online disks on floppies and hard disk floppies. > > Would anyone be interested in them? > > I really don?t? want to put them in a landfill. > > Thanks, > > Charles > > Helping those who LOVE their work, but HATE their paperwork. > > Charles D. Lappen, M.Ed. > The SOHOrganizer > Small Office / Home Office > Administrative Support Services > > Office:? 413-624-5507???????????????? 1 Gilbert Drive > Cell:?????? 617-797-7646 ??????????????? Colrain, MA 01340 > Fax:???????? 413-726-6821 > > PPlease consider the environment before printing this email > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -- Lots of online work, rizbang.com - ideas and history tnrglobal.com - Business greenfieldsfuture.org - local -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greenfielddigitalmbm at gmail.com Sun Sep 20 22:45:57 2020 From: greenfielddigitalmbm at gmail.com (Bram Moreinis) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 18:45:57 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson Message-ID: <4a19ded1-856c-ec28-5fea-f4ad68c19ecd@gmail.com> ? I am so sorry to hear you are a long-haul sufferer, Rob. I lost one of my oldest friends to a QAnon-like COVID19 conspiracy group and I am highly suspicious of ?alternative theories?. ?I don?t think we can throw out the scientific community just because of the politicization of it. But this is a survival question for you, so I did not mean to judge you and I?m sorry if I came off that way. Sincerely I am sorry. As I indicated, I came across Chris Martenson along time ago, advocating that we should all hoard silver ?Because the economy was about to collapse. He sounded very convincing. 9/11 truthers sound very convincing. ?I just don?t think that Secret conspiracy theories are where we should put our energy right now: there are very obvious open conspiracies happening right in front of our noses, And we really just need to pick a couple that there?s no shortage of evidence for an organize around those. But I?d love to have a drink with you, coffee or whatever, and hear how are you doing, and listen openly do what you have to say. Sincerely, Bram -- Bram Moreinis 845-750-2412 (txt) - - - - This email was composed on a mobile device and may have been dictated. -- Bram Moreinis 845-750-2412 (txt) - - - - This email was composed on a mobile device and may have been dictated. > On Sep 20, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Bram Moreinis > wrote: > > ? > > His definition of Integrity as "open to any ideas from anywhere" is > kinda the opposite of mine, Rob. > > > I don't know that Hidden Tech is the place to have this discussion -- > kinda surprised it made it through the "moderator" -- but to me, while > an "open mind" is the gateway to integrity, the qualifier of integrity > is that we check what comes un against what we already know,? and what > we already know is an organized system of information we've checked > against past experience and trusted epistemologies (ways of knowing > what's true). > > > Having an open mind without having such an internal, organized, and > cross-referenced system of understanding means being susceptible, in > my book. > > > Regarding Chris Martenson - how much "junk silver" did you stockpile > in 2007? > > > -Bram > > > On 9/20/2020 10:32 AM, Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I feel compelled to acknowledge publicly the very valuable service >> that local Chris Martenson provided in his ~6 months of unpacking the >> science of the pandemic at his YouTube channel >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w?. He stopped >> regular posts recently, but I highly recommend his recent ones about >> the science (studies, data) on how important vitamin D is in >> preventing Covid and reducing its impact. One of those videos points >> to an MD's channel that also has excellent reviews of the science, >> still going. >> >> I'm a Covid "Long-Hauler" who experienced far worse health effects >> than my ~3 week initial infection March-April, and vitamin D seems to >> have done wonders. It plays a very specific role in Covid's >> biochemical cascade (explained in the above videos). A huge study >> (n>50,000) in Spain recently confirmed the benefits of vitamin D in >> Covid, with far more impressive and statistically reliable results >> than, for example, the ~$3300 per treatment Remdesivir. >> >> Note that I would not post anything here or anywhere about Covid that >> does not reference solid science entailing peer-reviewed (or in >> process of that) studies. >> >> Take Care, >> >> >> Rob Laporte >> >> Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman >> >> DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money >> >> 413-584-6500 >> >> rob at 2disc.com ?| LinkedIn >> | 2DISC.com >> >> >> *NOTE:*?Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If >> you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -- Martin Bram Moreinis, Designer/Developer http://myinstructionaldesigns.com (413) 829-0355 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gsethkramer at yahoo.com Sun Sep 20 23:56:24 2020 From: gsethkramer at yahoo.com (Gordon Kramer) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 23:56:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Suggestions on quiet, private workspace to rent for a day? * * * In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1621975451.4521085.1600646184805@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Deborah, I too would like to know if any local libraries are open (except for curbside)... but I haven't heard of any. I think Greenspace Cowork in Greenfield is operating (https://greenspacecowork.com/). They have a beautiful space, and their rates are more affordable than the Amherst and Northampton spaces. They offer conference rooms by the hour but not the day - their $25/hr conference room rate would be very expensive for an entire day... but they may be open to negotiating a day rate? May be worth a try. Regards, ?? Gordon Kramer On Sunday, September 20, 2020, 4:02:46 PM EDT, Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss wrote: Hi folks,? Do you have any suggestions on places in the greater Pioneer Valley area where I can go do my work in a quiet and private space with an internet connection? (preferably hard-wired ethernet, not wifi, but I am flexible for the short-term)? It appears my library is still closed, except for lobby pickup/drop-off. Are there?any libraries open now? A?reservable private room in a library would be good; I have a library card in the CW Mars?network.? Are the coworking spaces open? If so, how much $ is it to use a closed-door private room for one day? If any of you have a membership and could allow me to rent a day from you, that would work. I have no need for a weekly or monthly commitment.*? I will likely need this space one day this week, but I don't know yet which day, as the situation causing my need is out of my control.? Challenging times, all around...? Thanks, Deb * Footnote: It looks like?Click Workspace in Northampton has a minimum of a month commitment. And Amherstworks'?website doesn't show pricing for a private room for one day. I am not familiar with any other coworking spaces in?our area. Are you? _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at on-the-net.com Mon Sep 21 00:13:57 2020 From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 20:13:57 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Suggestions on quiet, private workspace to rent for a day? * * * In-Reply-To: <1621975451.4521085.1600646184805@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1621975451.4521085.1600646184805@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <86de0093-0d11-1215-302d-fce7f7e61917@on-the-net.com> I tried to collect some leads at: http://www.meetmewhere.com/ Not sure if any are available but it might be a good resource to search On 9/20/2020 7:56 PM, Gordon Kramer via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi Deborah, > > I too would like to know if any local libraries are open (except for > curbside)... but I haven't heard of any. I think Greenspace Cowork in > Greenfield is operating (https://greenspacecowork.com/). They have a > beautiful space, and their//rates are more affordable than the Amherst > and Northampton spaces. They offer conference rooms by the hour but > not the day - their $25/hr conference room rate would be very > expensive for an entire day... but they may be open to negotiating a > day rate? May be worth a try. > > Regards, > ?? Gordon Kramer > > > On Sunday, September 20, 2020, 4:02:46 PM EDT, Deborah Chandler via > Hidden-discuss wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > Do you have any suggestions on places in the greater Pioneer Valley > area where I can go do my work in a quiet and private space with an > internet connection? (preferably hard-wired ethernet, not wifi, but I > am flexible for the short-term) > > > It appears my library is still closed, except for lobby > pickup/drop-off. Are there?any libraries open now? A?reservable > private room in a library would be good; I have a library card in the > CW Mars?network. > > > Are the coworking spaces open? If so, how much $ is it to use a > closed-door private room for one day? If any of you have a membership > and could allow me to rent a day from you, that would work. I have no > need for a weekly or monthly commitment.* > > > I will likely need this space one day this week, but I don't know yet > which day, as the situation causing my need is out of my control. > > > > Challenging times, all around... > > > Thanks, > > Deb > > > * Footnote: It looks like Click Workspace in Northampton has a minimum > of a month commitment. And Amherstworks'?website doesn't show pricing > for a private room for one day. I am not familiar with any other > coworking spaces in?our area. Are you? > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -- Lots of online work, rizbang.com - ideas and history tnrglobal.com - Business greenfieldsfuture.org - local -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clagier at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 12:18:17 2020 From: clagier at gmail.com (Christian Lagier) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 14:18:17 +0200 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Suggestions on quiet, private workspace to rent for a day? * * * In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: VVM or TechSpring might be options on Springfield ---- > On 20 Sep 2020, at 18.34, Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > ? > Hi folks, > > Do you have any suggestions on places in the greater Pioneer Valley area where I can go do my work in a quiet and private space with an internet connection? (preferably hard-wired ethernet, not wifi, but I am flexible for the short-term) > > It appears my library is still closed, except for lobby pickup/drop-off. Are there any libraries open now? A reservable private room in a library would be good; I have a library card in the CW Mars network. > > Are the coworking spaces open? If so, how much $ is it to use a closed-door private room for one day? If any of you have a membership and could allow me to rent a day from you, that would work. I have no need for a weekly or monthly commitment.* > > I will likely need this space one day this week, but I don't know yet which day, as the situation causing my need is out of my control. > > > Challenging times, all around... > > Thanks, > Deb > > * Footnote: It looks like Click Workspace in Northampton has a minimum of a month commitment. And Amherstworks' website doesn't show pricing for a private room for one day. I am not familiar with any other coworking spaces in our area. Are you? > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From narthur157 at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 14:24:54 2020 From: narthur157 at gmail.com (Nicholas Arthur) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:24:54 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson In-Reply-To: <4a19ded1-856c-ec28-5fea-f4ad68c19ecd@gmail.com> References: <4a19ded1-856c-ec28-5fea-f4ad68c19ecd@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure about Chris Martenson, but making sure you get Vitamin D is solid advice from my research. It will be harder with it getting colder + darker. It's tricky to supplement it from what I've read (poor absorption). The evidence for Vitamin D is not conclusive, but it's enough to take action on considering that a Vitamin D deficiency is a bad thing anyway. You can look at papers like this one https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7360122/ Communication from the scientific community is in a rough place right now, and there absolutely is financial + political motivations. I think they are largely "boring", eg, not deep conspiracies but simply people nudged in a direction by needing to get grant funding, or to not look stupid, etc. Additionally, it's hard to get a complex message across. Consider full lockdown, getting outside to get your Vitamin D would conflict with orders to stay inside. Nobody wants to look stupid and say "go outside with as much skin exposed to the sun as possible for exactly 15 minutes, but other than that don't go outside!". There are many "alternative theories" that still exist within the realm of scientific discussion, without going into conspiracy land. Consider, for programmers, the mainstream college CS education will have you believe that object oriented programming is really great and that you should have deep class hierarchies. My friend graduated with a CS degree without learning what an interface is. That's pretty sad, and it's largely because of a religious adherence to the idea of OOP over pragmatic programming. Composition over inheritance is a growing "alternative theory" which is actually extremely helpful and solves all sorts of real problems. All that being said Chris Maternson sounds more like a conspiracy guy, I just think he happens to be right in this case. Cheers, Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.medicineb at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 14:25:17 2020 From: john.medicineb at gmail.com (john coster) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:25:17 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hat tip to Chris Martenson In-Reply-To: <4a19ded1-856c-ec28-5fea-f4ad68c19ecd@gmail.com> References: <4a19ded1-856c-ec28-5fea-f4ad68c19ecd@gmail.com> Message-ID: Bram, I agree with your epistemological concerns. What I found most compelling about Martenson's coverage was his ferreting out of logical inconsistencies and rhetorical trickery in certain key scientific papers as well as one clear case of fraud in a paper published by the New England Journal of Medicine. The latter was retracted but not in a way that made headlines. I also found his suspicions, based on the genetic code alterations, that the virus originated as a bioweapon very compelling. This is the opinion of a number of informed people including the man who wrote our anti-bioweapons regulations, Professor Francis Boyle, who cited documents describing this very research. I do take issue with your point about conspiracy theories and 9/11. It seems to me that, from the assassination of Julius Caesar to the murder of JFK, history teaches us that conspiracies are a driving force in history. I've never seen any logical way of NOT concluding that 9/11 was the result of treasonous elements within the security state, perhaps working with certain foreign actors. I would refer you to the work of David Ray Grifin. That is another discussion, but I think there is real danger in allowing those who have not honestly discussed the origins of COVID to control the narrative of how we respond to it. Rob's reference to his results from vitamin D is an example. Its usefulness seems well established though it is not a magic bullet. I do believe that the deterioration of mainstream media, along with the obvious failures in the Trump administration and institutions like the CDC (recommended masks many weeks after Martenson) is a prime reason why when it comes to COVID, we're number 1. On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 8:12 PM Bram Moreinis via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > ? I am so sorry to hear you are a long-haul sufferer, Rob. > > I lost one of my oldest friends to a QAnon-like COVID19 conspiracy group > and I am highly suspicious of ?alternative theories?. I don?t think we can > throw out the scientific community just because of the politicization of it. > > But this is a survival question for you, so I did not mean to judge you > and I?m sorry if I came off that way. Sincerely I am sorry. > > As I indicated, I came across Chris Martenson along time ago, advocating > that we should all hoard silver Because the economy was about to collapse. > He sounded very convincing. 9/11 truthers sound very convincing. > > I just don?t think that Secret conspiracy theories are where we should > put our energy right now: there are very obvious open conspiracies > happening right in front of our noses, And we really just need to pick a > couple that there?s no shortage of evidence for an organize around those. > > But I?d love to have a drink with you, coffee or whatever, and hear how > are you doing, and listen openly do what you have to say. > > Sincerely, > Bram > > -- > Bram Moreinis > 845-750-2412 (txt) > - - - - > This email was composed on a mobile device and may have been dictated. > > > > > > -- > Bram Moreinis > 845-750-2412 (txt) > - - - - > This email was composed on a mobile device and may have been dictated. > > > On Sep 20, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Bram Moreinis > wrote: > > ? > > His definition of Integrity as "open to any ideas from anywhere" is kinda > the opposite of mine, Rob. > > > I don't know that Hidden Tech is the place to have this discussion -- > kinda surprised it made it through the "moderator" -- but to me, while an > "open mind" is the gateway to integrity, the qualifier of integrity is that > we check what comes un against what we already know, and what we already > know is an organized system of information we've checked against past > experience and trusted epistemologies (ways of knowing what's true). > > > Having an open mind without having such an internal, organized, and > cross-referenced system of understanding means being susceptible, in my > book. > > > Regarding Chris Martenson - how much "junk silver" did you stockpile in > 2007? > > > -Bram > > > On 9/20/2020 10:32 AM, Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Hi All, > > I feel compelled to acknowledge publicly the very valuable service that > local Chris Martenson provided in his ~6 months of unpacking the science of > the pandemic at his YouTube channel > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w . He stopped > regular posts recently, but I highly recommend his recent ones about the > science (studies, data) on how important vitamin D is in preventing Covid > and reducing its impact. One of those videos points to an MD's channel that > also has excellent reviews of the science, still going. > > I'm a Covid "Long-Hauler" who experienced far worse health effects than my > ~3 week initial infection March-April, and vitamin D seems to have done > wonders. It plays a very specific role in Covid's biochemical cascade > (explained in the above videos). A huge study (n>50,000) in Spain recently > confirmed the benefits of vitamin D in Covid, with far more impressive and > statistically reliable results than, for example, the ~$3300 per treatment > Remdesivir. > > Note that I would not post anything here or anywhere about Covid that does > not reference solid science entailing peer-reviewed (or in process of that) > studies. > > Take Care, > > > Rob Laporte > > Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman > > DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money > > 413-584-6500 > > rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com > > > > *NOTE:* Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. 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Going forward, I am thinking there will be increasing need for coworking spaces with various ? la carte options, as more folks telecommute and need a reprieve from cabin fever, barking dogs, crying kids, bitchy partners...or just want to connect with fellow humans in the flesh, either to collaborate or try to stay sane. Personally, I wish there were RURAL coworking options available. Maybe on a farm. Anyone else find this idea intriguing? Thanks again, Deb On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:34 PM Deborah Chandler wrote: > Hi folks, > > > Do you have any suggestions on places in the greater Pioneer Valley area > where I can go do my work in a quiet and private space with an internet > connection? (preferably hard-wired ethernet, not wifi, but I am flexible > for the short-term) > > > It appears my library is still closed, except for lobby pickup/drop-off. > Are there any libraries open now? A reservable private room in a library > would be good; I have a library card in the CW Mars network. > > > Are the coworking spaces open? If so, how much $ is it to use a > closed-door private room for one day? If any of you have a membership and > could allow me to rent a day from you, that would work. I have no need for > a weekly or monthly commitment.* > > > I will likely need this space one day this week, but I don't know yet > which day, as the situation causing my need is out of my control. > > > > Challenging times, all around... > > > Thanks, > > Deb > > > * Footnote: It looks like Click Workspace in Northampton has a minimum of > a month commitment. And Amherstworks' website doesn't show pricing for a > private room for one day. I am not familiar with any other coworking spaces > in our area. Are you? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heller at deepsoft.com Mon Sep 21 19:19:20 2020 From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 15:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Suggestions on quiet, private workspace to rent for a day? * * * In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20200921191920.DF221224620@sharky4.deepsoft.com> At Mon, 21 Sep 2020 14:38:17 -0400 Deborah Chandler wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I want to thank you all for your suggestions and offers. I think I have > found a place I can use that will suit my needs for my one-off need. > > Going forward, I am thinking there will be increasing need for coworking > spaces with various ???? la carte options, as more folks telecommute and need > a reprieve from cabin fever, barking dogs, crying kids, bitchy > partners...or just want to connect with fellow humans in the flesh, either > to collaborate or try to stay sane. > > Personally, I wish there were RURAL coworking options available. Maybe on a > farm. Anyone else find this idea intriguing? Well... There is the Wendell Town Common, which does have WiFi. And behind the Wendell Free Library there is a "stone circle" (and there is WiFi at the library). Right now the WiFi at the Wendell Town Common is only 5MBits and the Library's WiFi is only 20MBits, but in a few weeks that will likely be uped to like 200MBits, once the town buildings get wired to the town's gigabit fiber optic network. These are fairly quiet outdoor areas, with generally low traffic. There isn't much in the way of tables/chairs. There are a few odd picnic tables about on the common and a roofed gazabo. The "stone circle" behind the library provides some "rustic" seating. Otherwise I guess one can just either sit on the grass with a laptop or bring a folding camp chair... > > Thanks again, > Deb > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:34 PM Deborah Chandler > wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > Do you have any suggestions on places in the greater Pioneer Valley area > > where I can go do my work in a quiet and private space with an internet > > connection? (preferably hard-wired ethernet, not wifi, but I am flexible > > for the short-term) > > > > > > It appears my library is still closed, except for lobby pickup/drop-off. > > Are there any libraries open now? A reservable private room in a library > > would be good; I have a library card in the CW Mars network. > > > > > > Are the coworking spaces open? If so, how much $ is it to use a > > closed-door private room for one day? If any of you have a membership and > > could allow me to rent a day from you, that would work. I have no need for > > a weekly or monthly commitment.* > > > > > > I will likely need this space one day this week, but I don't know yet > > which day, as the situation causing my need is out of my control. > > > > > > > > Challenging times, all around... > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Deb > > > > > > * Footnote: It looks like Click Workspace in Northampton has a minimum of > > a month commitment. And Amherstworks' website doesn't show pricing for a > > private room for one day. I am not familiar with any other coworking spaces > > in our area. Are you? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services From yudkinyudkin at yahoo.com Mon Sep 21 19:23:17 2020 From: yudkinyudkin at yahoo.com (Marcia Yudkin) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 19:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Suggestions on quiet, private workspace to rent for a day? * * * In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1285689701.4478714.1600716197454@mail.yahoo.com> >>Personally, I wish there were RURAL coworking options available. Maybe on a farm. Anyone else find this idea intriguing?? Then I suggest you contact local rural B&Bs.? They probably are not busy right now and may have a suitable setup and be willing to make a deal, since they wouldn't have to do their usual cleanup if you're not sleeping over. I actually twice ran a workshop in the living room of a friend's B&B in WiIliamsburg.? Some participants really liked it, but one was bummed because I told him it was a 20-minute drive to the nearest Starbucks! Marcia Yudkin http://www.yudkin.com Goshen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can see pictures of it on the Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/To-cause-a-tiger-111440733597875 If you're interested, email me: maria at mariawilliamseditor.com On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:39 PM Marcia Yudkin via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >>Personally, I wish there were RURAL coworking options available. Maybe > on a farm. Anyone else find this idea intriguing? > > Then I suggest you contact local rural B&Bs. They probably are not busy > right now and may have a suitable setup and be willing to make a deal, > since they wouldn't have to do their usual cleanup if you're not sleeping > over. > > I actually twice ran a workshop in the living room of a friend's B&B in > WiIliamsburg. Some participants really liked it, but one was bummed > because I told him it was a 20-minute drive to the nearest Starbucks! > > Marcia Yudkin > http://www.yudkin.com > > Goshen > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Maria Williams Find me at: Maria Williams, Editor - for business communications, book editing, and mentoring Why Are The Birds Here - a blog about food, wine, and life in western Massachusetts Shape&Nature Press - an independent publisher of poetry, fiction, and projects. I'm the editor. "In the dark times, will there be singing? Yes, there will be singing about the dark times." - Brecht -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at davidchase.net Mon Sep 21 21:07:53 2020 From: david at davidchase.net (David Chase) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 17:07:53 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Suggestions on quiet, private workspace to rent for a day? * * * In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2e60010d-c5f5-e6dd-11b8-bda9875842b6@davidchase.net> I run a coworking space in Williamsburg center. I didn't mention this before because we haven't been fully open since March and couldn't offer space to Deb. But since the conversation has turned broader... It's Commons Coworking (http://www.commonscoworking.com/). We're a nonprofit and we've been in the former Helen E. James School building since 2016. Not quite fully rural but getting close (i.e. there's plenty of parking). We'll be figuring out how to open up again safely, within the next couple of months. First off, we'll let in our current members who've been on hold, but we will, of course, be open to others as well. If anyone thinks they might be interested, email info at commons.today and let us know and we'll be in touch when we have opening plans. -Dave Chase On 9/21/2020 2:38 PM, Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi folks, > > I want to thank you all for your suggestions and offers. I think I > have found a place I can use that will suit my needs for my one-off need. > > Going forward, I am thinking there will be increasing need for > coworking spaces with various ? la carte options, as more folks > telecommute and need a reprieve from cabin fever, barking dogs, crying > kids, bitchy partners...or just want to connect with fellow humans in > the flesh,?either to collaborate or try to stay sane. > > Personally, I wish there were RURAL coworking options available. Maybe > on a farm. Anyone else find this idea intriguing? > > Thanks again, > Deb > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 12:34 PM Deborah Chandler > > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > Do you have any suggestions on places in the greater Pioneer > Valley area where I can go do my work in a quiet and private space > with an internet connection? (preferably hard-wired ethernet, not > wifi, but I am flexible for the short-term) > > > It appears my library is still closed, except for lobby > pickup/drop-off. Are there?any libraries open now? A?reservable > private room in a library would be good; I have a library card in > the CW Mars?network. > > > Are the coworking spaces open? If so, how much $ is it to use a > closed-door private room for one day? If any of you have a > membership and could allow me to rent a day from you, that would > work. I have no need for a weekly or monthly commitment.* > > > I will likely need this space one day this week, but I don't know > yet which day, as the situation causing my need is out of my control. > > > > Challenging times, all around... > > > Thanks, > > Deb > > > * Footnote: It looks like Click Workspace in Northampton has a > minimum of a month commitment. And Amherstworks'?website doesn't > show pricing for a private room for one day. I am not familiar > with any other coworking spaces in?our area. Are you? > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rtf at rtfconsulting.co Mon Sep 21 21:56:00 2020 From: rtf at rtfconsulting.co (Todd Felton) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 17:56:00 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Suggestions on quiet, private workspace to rent for a day? * * * In-Reply-To: References: <1285689701.4478714.1600716197454@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Amherst has AmherstWorks, and I am a big fan. I've been a member for years and really look forward to going back. Todd Felton 413.320.3923 my pronouns: he, him, his On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:01 PM Maria Williams via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Sounds like you found something for now. But, I have a studio in the > Cottage Street Studios that is available for rent on a daily basis. It has > Wifi, a mini fridge, an electric kettle, access to restrooms and water and > there are coffee shops up and down the street, great views and wonderful > light. I use it as an office and gallery space. You can see pictures of it > on the Facebook page: > https://www.facebook.com/To-cause-a-tiger-111440733597875 > > > If you're interested, email me: maria at mariawilliamseditor.com > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:39 PM Marcia Yudkin via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> >>Personally, I wish there were RURAL coworking options available. Maybe >> on a farm. Anyone else find this idea intriguing? >> >> Then I suggest you contact local rural B&Bs. They probably are not busy >> right now and may have a suitable setup and be willing to make a deal, >> since they wouldn't have to do their usual cleanup if you're not sleeping >> over. >> >> I actually twice ran a workshop in the living room of a friend's B&B in >> WiIliamsburg. Some participants really liked it, but one was bummed >> because I told him it was a 20-minute drive to the nearest Starbucks! >> >> Marcia Yudkin >> http://www.yudkin.com >> >> Goshen >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> > > > -- > Maria Williams > > Find me at: > Maria Williams, Editor > > - for business communications, book editing, and mentoring > Why Are The Birds Here > > - a blog about food, wine, and life in western Massachusetts > Shape&Nature Press > > - an independent publisher of poetry, fiction, and projects. I'm the editor. > > > > "In the dark times, will there be singing? > Yes, there will be singing > about the dark times." > - Brecht > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debchandler411 at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 22:26:52 2020 From: debchandler411 at gmail.com (Deborah Chandler) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:26:52 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Suggestions on quiet, private workspace to rent for a day? * * * In-Reply-To: References: <1285689701.4478714.1600716197454@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Todd, According to the AmherstWorks website, they don't offer a day rate for a private office. I skipped over them for that reason. I've been there once; it seemed decent. :-) Best, Deb On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 6:03 PM Todd Felton via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Amherst has AmherstWorks, and I am a big fan. I've been a member for years > and really look forward to going back. > > Todd Felton > 413.320.3923 > > > > my pronouns: he, him, his > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:01 PM Maria Williams via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Sounds like you found something for now. But, I have a studio in the >> Cottage Street Studios that is available for rent on a daily basis. It has >> Wifi, a mini fridge, an electric kettle, access to restrooms and water and >> there are coffee shops up and down the street, great views and wonderful >> light. I use it as an office and gallery space. You can see pictures of it >> on the Facebook page: >> https://www.facebook.com/To-cause-a-tiger-111440733597875 >> >> >> If you're interested, email me: maria at mariawilliamseditor.com >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:39 PM Marcia Yudkin via Hidden-discuss < >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >>> >>Personally, I wish there were RURAL coworking options available. >>> Maybe on a farm. Anyone else find this idea intriguing? >>> >>> Then I suggest you contact local rural B&Bs. They probably are not busy >>> right now and may have a suitable setup and be willing to make a deal, >>> since they wouldn't have to do their usual cleanup if you're not sleeping >>> over. >>> >>> I actually twice ran a workshop in the living room of a friend's B&B in >>> WiIliamsburg. Some participants really liked it, but one was bummed >>> because I told him it was a 20-minute drive to the nearest Starbucks! >>> >>> Marcia Yudkin >>> http://www.yudkin.com >>> >>> Goshen >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Maria Williams >> >> Find me at: >> Maria Williams, Editor >> >> - for business communications, book editing, and mentoring >> Why Are The Birds Here >> >> - a blog about food, wine, and life in western Massachusetts >> Shape&Nature Press >> >> - an independent publisher of poetry, fiction, and projects. I'm the editor. >> >> >> >> "In the dark times, will there be singing? >> Yes, there will be singing >> about the dark times." >> - Brecht >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jillvox at jillconnolly.com Mon Sep 21 22:36:24 2020 From: jillvox at jillconnolly.com (Jill Connolly) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:36:24 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Suggestions on quiet, private workspace to rent for a day? * * * In-Reply-To: References: <1285689701.4478714.1600716197454@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <255FA667-7D7F-4437-A9CB-9012C39832AE@jillconnolly.com> also - there?s a beautiful co working space in shelburne falls: Bridge of Flowers Co-Working Business Center > On Sep 21, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Hi Todd, > > According to the AmherstWorks website, they don't offer a day rate for a private office. I skipped over them for that reason. > > I've been there once; it seemed decent. :-) > > Best, > Deb > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 6:03 PM Todd Felton via Hidden-discuss > wrote: > Amherst has AmherstWorks, and I am a big fan. I've been a member for years and really look forward to going back. > > Todd Felton > 413.320.3923 > > > > my pronouns: he, him, his > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:01 PM Maria Williams via Hidden-discuss > wrote: > Sounds like you found something for now. But, I have a studio in the Cottage Street Studios that is available for rent on a daily basis. It has Wifi, a mini fridge, an electric kettle, access to restrooms and water and there are coffee shops up and down the street, great views and wonderful light. I use it as an office and gallery space. You can see pictures of it on the Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/To-cause-a-tiger-111440733597875 > > If you're interested, email me: maria at mariawilliamseditor.com > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:39 PM Marcia Yudkin via Hidden-discuss > wrote: > >>Personally, I wish there were RURAL coworking options available. Maybe on a farm. Anyone else find this idea intriguing? > > Then I suggest you contact local rural B&Bs. They probably are not busy right now and may have a suitable setup and be willing to make a deal, since they wouldn't have to do their usual cleanup if you're not sleeping over. > > I actually twice ran a workshop in the living room of a friend's B&B in WiIliamsburg. Some participants really liked it, but one was bummed because I told him it was a 20-minute drive to the nearest Starbucks! > > Marcia Yudkin > http://www.yudkin.com > Goshen > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > -- > Maria Williams > > Find me at: > Maria Williams, Editor - for business communications, book editing, and mentoring > Why Are The Birds Here - a blog about food, wine, and life in western Massachusetts > Shape&Nature Press - an independent publisher of poetry, fiction, and projects. I'm the editor. > > > > "In the dark times, will there be singing? > Yes, there will be singing > about the dark times." > - Brecht > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From s at smichel.me Mon Sep 21 22:44:57 2020 From: s at smichel.me (Stephen Michel) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:44:57 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Caution about excessive doses of Vitamin D supplements In-Reply-To: References: <4a19ded1-856c-ec28-5fea-f4ad68c19ecd@gmail.com> Message-ID: In addition to the benefits of vitamin D, anyone supplementing at doses above ~2000 IU daily should be aware that prolonged supplementation at high doses can lead to harmful blood-calcium levels. What's "high doses"? It **very much depending on your individual body,** but almost nobody will have a problem below 2k IU (note that multivitamins & other supplements may also include vitamin D). My source is these social media comments by a [person who claims to be a] parathyroid surgeon (parathyroids are the glands that regulate your calcium levels). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24063443 She also has a blog with more information on the topic https://www.devaboone.com/blog/categories/vitamin-d -- I try to write short, functional emails. On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:24, Nicholas Arthur via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Making sure you get Vitamin D is solid advice from my research. It > will be harder with it getting colder + darker. It's tricky to > supplement it from what I've read (poor absorption). > > The evidence for Vitamin D is not conclusive, but it's enough to take > action on considering that a Vitamin D deficiency is a bad thing > anyway. You can look at papers like this one > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7360122/ > > Communication from the scientific community is in a rough place right > now, and there absolutely is financial + political motivations. I > think they are largely "boring", eg, not deep conspiracies but simply > people nudged in a direction by needing to get grant funding, or to > not look stupid, etc. Additionally, it's hard to get a complex > message across. Consider full lockdown, getting outside to get your > Vitamin D would conflict with orders to stay inside. Nobody wants to > look stupid and say "go outside with as much skin exposed to the sun > as possible for exactly 15 minutes, but other than that don't go > outside!". > > Cheers, > Nick From heller at deepsoft.com Tue Sep 22 00:46:42 2020 From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 20:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20200922004642.0F82B2246D6@sharky4.deepsoft.com> At Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:38:45 -0400 Val Nelson wrote: > > Hi HT community, > I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls. Multiple a day. > Especially in the last month. Is this with a "traditional" landline? If so, your options are limited. > > Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on the same topic of > selling business visibility online. Argh. > > I've tried keeping my phone number off the internet but I'm sure it's out > there. Are the calls targeting you specifically or are they generic? If the latter, it could be with a robo dialer (aka War Games dialer). These calls are just sequencing through all possible numbers, and is not using your number specificly. These callers are not using lists of harvested phone numbers. > > It's not that I pick up unknown numbers, but it is disruptive nonetheless. > > Thank you for any ideas to get off these lists. At this point there is probably not much you can do. Caller ID is probably your first line of defense. Don't answer calls from unknown callers. Esp. from callers whose Caller ID does not identify them (eg "Name Unavailable" or some such). You should have a answering machine or *better* voicemail. Voicemail systems automatically (and accurately) return the time, date, and caller id of the caller, unlike answering machines are a bit more haphazard with reguard to recording this information. > > Val > > ______________________________ > *Val Nelson* > > THE BLACK SWAN COACH > * for Introverts with Big Hearts* > Career ~ Business ~ Impact > > ValNelson.com > > New Course: Simple Steps to Uncover the Best Use of You Now > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services From tech at montaguewebworks.com Tue Sep 22 00:54:55 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Mik Muller) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 20:54:55 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <084D5540-288C-4D48-B7B7-72B246C82FA5@montaguewebworks.com> I have an iPhone on Verizon. I installed the ?RoboKiller? app, and also enabled ignore calls not in my phonebook. I also bought a burner phone for the phone number I use for buying domain names. Every time I buy a new domain I get a minimum of a dozen calls. Mik 413-320-5336 Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2020, at 8:24 PM, Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > ? > Hi HT community, > I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls. Multiple a day. Especially in the last month. > > Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on the same topic of selling business visibility online. Argh. > > I've tried keeping my phone number off the internet but I'm sure it's out there. > > It's not that I pick up unknown numbers, but it is disruptive nonetheless. > > Thank you for any ideas to get off these lists. > > Val > > ______________________________ > Val Nelson > > THE BLACK SWAN COACH > for Introverts with Big Hearts > Career ~ Business ~ Impact > > ValNelson.com > > New Course: Simple Steps to Uncover the Best Use of You Now > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jm-hiddentech at vj8.net Tue Sep 22 18:14:43 2020 From: jm-hiddentech at vj8.net (James Triplett) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 14:14:43 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20200922181443.37rfttdyh3xynxj2@bermuda.datamat.net> On (21/09/20 18:38), Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:38:45 -0400 > From: Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss > To: Hidden-Tech Listserv > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? > Reply-To: Val Nelson > > Hi HT community, > I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls. Multiple a day. > Especially in the last month. > > Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on the same topic of > selling business visibility online. Argh. > We've basically eliminated robocalls with the following: 1. Move (called porting) our "landline" number to a VOIP service, such as voip.ms . 2. The VOIP service has an automated attendant function, which answers the phone and says, "Marketing calls not accepted. If you're human, press 3" 3, If, and only if, the caller presses '3', the automated attendant "dials out" to a second secret number, which then rings our phone. To my surprise it works perfectly, even human callers at call centers don't seem to be able to get past it. The VOIP service (which we got originally to save money) costs around $6 per month per line. cheers, James From ed at edbride-pr.com Tue Sep 22 18:52:18 2020 From: ed at edbride-pr.com (ed at edbride-pr.com) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 14:52:18 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? In-Reply-To: <20200922181443.37rfttdyh3xynxj2@bermuda.datamat.net> References: <20200922181443.37rfttdyh3xynxj2@bermuda.datamat.net> Message-ID: <023701d69111$7fa5eb60$7ef1c220$@edbride-pr.com> I'm not sure how "creative" this is, but assuming you have caller-ID on your landline, you'll note that most robocalls have a phony phone number; it's generally a city or town, and the return phone number appears to be valid (i.e., the correct area code and telephone exchange). The giveaway is that the caller is identified as a city or town. Don't pick up your phone for these calls. The robodialer recognizes when it's reached a phone answering system, and doesn't leave a message. You'll still get the rings, but not the annoyance or distraction of actually interacting with an automaton or human who has been connected by same. The VOIP suggestion below might work well, too, assuming you have really good Internet service (bandwidth). Ed Bride -----Original Message----- From: Hidden-discuss On Behalf Of James Triplett via Hidden-discuss Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:15 PM To: Val Nelson Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? On (21/09/20 18:38), Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:38:45 -0400 > From: Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss > > To: Hidden-Tech Listserv > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? > Reply-To: Val Nelson > > Hi HT community, > I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls. Multiple a day. > Especially in the last month. > > Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on the same > topic of selling business visibility online. Argh. > We've basically eliminated robocalls with the following: 1. Move (called porting) our "landline" number to a VOIP service, such as voip.ms . 2. The VOIP service has an automated attendant function, which answers the phone and says, "Marketing calls not accepted. If you're human, press 3" 3, If, and only if, the caller presses '3', the automated attendant "dials out" to a second secret number, which then rings our phone. To my surprise it works perfectly, even human callers at call centers don't seem to be able to get past it. The VOIP service (which we got originally to save money) costs around $6 per month per line. cheers, James _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members From shel at principledprofit.com Tue Sep 22 19:23:27 2020 From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 15:23:27 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? In-Reply-To: <20200922181443.37rfttdyh3xynxj2@bermuda.datamat.net> References: <20200922181443.37rfttdyh3xynxj2@bermuda.datamat.net> Message-ID: This is very cool. If we already have VOIP through Charter/Spectrum, does anyone know if they have an option like that? Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" ________________________________________________ Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame * Certified speaker: International Platform Association http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) Watch my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") _________________________________________________ On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:14 PM James Triplett via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > On (21/09/20 18:38), Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:38:45 -0400 > > From: Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > > To: Hidden-Tech Listserv > > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? > > Reply-To: Val Nelson > > > > Hi HT community, > > I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls. Multiple a day. > > Especially in the last month. > > > > Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on the same topic > of > > selling business visibility online. Argh. > > > > We've basically eliminated robocalls with the following: > > 1. Move (called porting) our "landline" number to a VOIP service, such as > voip.ms . > 2. The VOIP service has an automated attendant function, which answers the > phone > and says, "Marketing calls not accepted. If you're human, press 3" > 3, If, and only if, the caller presses '3', the automated attendant "dials > out" > to a second secret number, which then rings our phone. > > To my surprise it works perfectly, even human callers at call centers > don't seem to > be able to get past it. > > The VOIP service (which we got originally to save money) costs around $6 > per month per line. > > cheers, > James > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shel at principledprofit.com Tue Sep 22 22:55:10 2020 From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:55:10 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? In-Reply-To: <023701d69111$7fa5eb60$7ef1c220$@edbride-pr.com> References: <20200922181443.37rfttdyh3xynxj2@bermuda.datamat.net> <023701d69111$7fa5eb60$7ef1c220$@edbride-pr.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately, those of us who rely on new business sometimes coming over the phone don't have that option. While 90% of those types of calls are junk, the other 10% are legit. I have found that if there are a lot of random numbers on the screen, it's usually junk. Also, I don't think I've ever gotten a call from 339 area code that was legit. But just today, I was phone-banking North Carolina for the democrats and one of the numbers I was given was a 339. Also many of the junk calls have names attached and look legit. I have actually experienced multiple occurrences of not only someone I knew in the next town and MY OWN NAME AND NUMBER showing on the ID of spam calls. Obviously, if someone is pretending to be me, I don't answer. And some numbers become familiar and I know I can ignore those. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" ________________________________________________ Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame * Certified speaker: International Platform Association http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) Watch my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") _________________________________________________ On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:52 PM ed--- via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I'm not sure how "creative" this is, but assuming you have caller-ID on > your > landline, you'll note that most robocalls have a phony phone number; it's > generally a city or town, and the return phone number appears to be valid > (i.e., the correct area code and telephone exchange). The giveaway is that > the caller is identified as a city or town. Don't pick up your phone for > these calls. The robodialer recognizes when it's reached a phone answering > system, and doesn't leave a message. You'll still get the rings, but not > the > annoyance or distraction of actually interacting with an automaton or human > who has been connected by same. > > The VOIP suggestion below might work well, too, assuming you have really > good Internet service (bandwidth). > > > Ed Bride > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hidden-discuss On > Behalf Of James Triplett via Hidden-discuss > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:15 PM > To: Val Nelson > Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? > > On (21/09/20 18:38), Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:38:45 -0400 > > From: Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss > > > > To: Hidden-Tech Listserv > > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? > > Reply-To: Val Nelson > > > > Hi HT community, > > I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls. Multiple a day. > > Especially in the last month. > > > > Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on the same > > topic of selling business visibility online. Argh. > > > > We've basically eliminated robocalls with the following: > > 1. Move (called porting) our "landline" number to a VOIP service, such as > voip.ms . > 2. The VOIP service has an automated attendant function, which answers the > phone > and says, "Marketing calls not accepted. If you're human, press 3" > 3, If, and only if, the caller presses '3', the automated attendant "dials > out" > to a second secret number, which then rings our phone. > > To my surprise it works perfectly, even human callers at call centers don't > seem to be able to get past it. > > The VOIP service (which we got originally to save money) costs around $6 > per > month per line. > > cheers, > James > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page > on > the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jackjrabbit at gmail.com Wed Sep 23 03:01:17 2020 From: jackjrabbit at gmail.com (Jack L.) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 23:01:17 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? In-Reply-To: References: <20200922181443.37rfttdyh3xynxj2@bermuda.datamat.net> <023701d69111$7fa5eb60$7ef1c220$@edbride-pr.com> Message-ID: Make sure you're on the do not call list. The fines are rather serious for any domestic commerical operation. Foreign spammers won't care but it's cut my calls by 95-99%. It doesn't take effect immediately so do it asap! https://www.donotcall.gov/ Jack Laxson On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 20:12 Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Unfortunately, those of us who rely on new business sometimes coming over > the phone don't have that option. While 90% of those types of calls are > junk, the other 10% are legit. I have found that if there are a lot of > random numbers on the screen, it's usually junk. Also, I don't think I've > ever gotten a call from 339 area code that was legit. But just today, I was > phone-banking North Carolina for the democrats and one of the numbers I was > given was a 339. Also many of the junk calls have names attached and look > legit. I have actually experienced multiple occurrences of not only someone > I knew in the next town and MY OWN NAME AND NUMBER showing on the ID of > spam calls. Obviously, if someone is pretending to be me, I don't answer. > And some numbers become familiar and I know I can ignore those. > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" > ________________________________________________ > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > * Certified speaker: International Platform Association > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. > Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World > (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > Watch my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > (move your mouse to "event videos") > _________________________________________________ > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:52 PM ed--- via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> I'm not sure how "creative" this is, but assuming you have caller-ID on >> your >> landline, you'll note that most robocalls have a phony phone number; it's >> generally a city or town, and the return phone number appears to be valid >> (i.e., the correct area code and telephone exchange). The giveaway is that >> the caller is identified as a city or town. Don't pick up your phone for >> these calls. The robodialer recognizes when it's reached a phone answering >> system, and doesn't leave a message. You'll still get the rings, but not >> the >> annoyance or distraction of actually interacting with an automaton or >> human >> who has been connected by same. >> >> The VOIP suggestion below might work well, too, assuming you have really >> good Internet service (bandwidth). >> >> >> Ed Bride >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hidden-discuss On >> Behalf Of James Triplett via Hidden-discuss >> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:15 PM >> To: Val Nelson >> Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? >> >> On (21/09/20 18:38), Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:38:45 -0400 >> > From: Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss >> > >> > To: Hidden-Tech Listserv >> > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? >> > Reply-To: Val Nelson >> > >> > Hi HT community, >> > I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls. Multiple a day. >> > Especially in the last month. >> > >> > Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on the same >> > topic of selling business visibility online. Argh. >> > >> >> We've basically eliminated robocalls with the following: >> >> 1. Move (called porting) our "landline" number to a VOIP service, such as >> voip.ms . >> 2. The VOIP service has an automated attendant function, which answers the >> phone >> and says, "Marketing calls not accepted. If you're human, press 3" >> 3, If, and only if, the caller presses '3', the automated attendant "dials >> out" >> to a second secret number, which then rings our phone. >> >> To my surprise it works perfectly, even human callers at call centers >> don't >> seem to be able to get past it. >> >> The VOIP service (which we got originally to save money) costs around $6 >> per >> month per line. >> >> cheers, >> James >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page >> on >> the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tech at montaguewebworks.com Wed Sep 23 13:06:59 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 09:06:59 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? In-Reply-To: References: <20200922181443.37rfttdyh3xynxj2@bermuda.datamat.net> <023701d69111$7fa5eb60$7ef1c220$@edbride-pr.com> Message-ID: <4b1f86f7-fd96-7697-8728-3a68906e61e0@montaguewebworks.com> For me, most of our business is in Western Mass or Southern Vermont, and any new customer that wants to reach me will leave a message. I'm diligent about adding any legit numbers into my phone so I'll get their calls in the future, but all others go to voice mail. Most messages I get are the tail end of a robo call, "...ant to be removed from our call list, please press 9." I just hit delete. Also, Verizon now has a thing where, if you do accept calls from numbers not in your phone book, they will set the caller ID to "POTENTIAL SCAM" above the actual number, where the person's name would go, if that number appears to be a scammer to them. Easy to ignore, although the phone still rings. Mik --- Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION On 9/22/2020 6:55 PM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Unfortunately, those of us who rely on new business sometimes coming > over the phone don't have that option. While 90% of those types of > calls are junk, the other 10% are legit. I have found that if there > are a lot of random numbers on the screen, it's usually junk. Also, I > don't think I've ever gotten a call from 339 area code that was legit. > But just today, I was phone-banking North Carolina for the democrats > and one of the numbers I was given was a 339. Also many of the junk > calls have names attached and look legit. I have actually experienced > multiple occurrences of not only someone I knew in the next town and > MY OWN NAME AND NUMBER showing on the ID of spam calls. Obviously, if > someone is pretending to be me, I don't answer. And some numbers > become familiar and I know I can ignore those. > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" > ________________________________________________ > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > * Certified speaker: International Platform Association > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com > 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. > Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World > (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > Watch my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > (move your mouse to "event videos") > _________________________________________________ > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:52 PM ed--- via Hidden-discuss > > wrote: > > I'm not sure how "creative" this is, but assuming you have > caller-ID on your > landline, you'll note that most robocalls have a phony phone > number; it's > generally a city or town, and the return phone number appears to > be valid > (i.e., the correct area code and telephone exchange). The giveaway > is that > the caller is identified as a city or town. Don't pick up your > phone for > these calls. The robodialer recognizes when it's reached a phone > answering > system, and doesn't leave a message. You'll still get the rings, > but not the > annoyance or distraction of actually interacting with an automaton > or human > who has been connected by same. > > The VOIP suggestion below might work well, too, assuming you have > really > good Internet service (bandwidth). > > > Ed Bride > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hidden-discuss > On > Behalf Of James Triplett via Hidden-discuss > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:15 PM > To: Val Nelson > > Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? > > On (21/09/20 18:38), Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:38:45 -0400 > > From: Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss > > > > > To: Hidden-Tech Listserv > > > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls? > > Reply-To: Val Nelson > > > > > Hi HT community, > > I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls. Multiple a day. > > Especially in the last month. > > > > Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on the same > > topic of selling business visibility online. Argh. > > > > We've basically eliminated robocalls with the following: > > 1. Move (called porting) our "landline" number to a VOIP service, > such as > voip.ms . > 2. The VOIP service has an automated attendant function, which > answers the > phone > ? ?and says, "Marketing calls not accepted.? If you're human, press 3" > 3, If, and only if, the caller presses '3', the automated > attendant "dials > out" > ? ?to a second secret number, which then rings our phone. > > To my surprise it works perfectly, even human callers at call > centers don't > seem to be able to get past it. > > The VOIP service (which we got originally to save money) costs > around $6 per > month per line. > > cheers, > James > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the > Members page on > the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rob at 2disc.com Wed Sep 23 21:21:37 2020 From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 21:21:37 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Squirly laws in PPP Loan Forgiveness Message-ID: Hi All, It's hugely complicated, and I expect to resolve it via my firm's CPA soon, but meanwhile I wonder if this recap to my CPA resonates with any others of you trying to battle the effects of banking lobbyists working to reduce US-wide PPP loan forgiveness: When I applied to the loan on 4/9, calcuations were based on payroll, no S-Corp [or C-Corp] owner distinction. So I applied for the amount I did based on that. The later rule change regarding S-corp owners seems wrong--it changes the terms of the loan after making a business decision to get the loan at all--hence my thinking it's best to invoke: ?Borrowers and lenders may rely on the guidance provided in this document as SBA?s interpretation of the CARES Act and of the Paycheck Protection Program Interim Final Rules (?PPP Interim Final Rules?) (link). The U.S. government will not challenge lender PPP actions that conform to this guidance, and to the PPP Interim Final Rules and any subsequent rulemaking in effect at the time.? ( https://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/Paycheck-Protection-Program-Frequently-Asked-Questions_04%2024%2020.pdf 4/24/20) Also, I applied based on rent paid, regardless of later rule changes negating forgiveness for rent paid to the business owner or to a relative of the owner. But if other ways to slice this will work for getting all forgiveness, I'd do that, being cognizant of the National Law Reivew's warning that choosing any rules after one's PPP loan application date (4/9 for me) could mean "that to be eligible for this safe harbor, borrowers may need to keep all full time equivalent employees employed even after the covered period ends" up to 12/31/2020. I coud write a small book on the many ways that the ever-changing PPP rules/laws together with PR lure small businesses into taking the bait on the 24-week option and/or delying forgiveness application, which reduces forgiveness and increases debt. And forget about the PR about all loans under 150G maybe being forgiven automatically--it spurs more delays in forgiveness applications, which will benefit the big banks that buy the books of PPP loans from small banks and then change the rules (the CARES Act allows that) for profit and perhaps collateralize some of the debt into CLOs to sell to investors. But to keep focus, I wonder if anyone has insight on the legality of in fact invoking the laws that were in effect when one applied to the original PPP loan, so as to obviate all later rules. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at tnrglobal.com Wed Sep 23 22:48:17 2020 From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2020 18:48:17 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Squirly laws in PPP Loan Forgiveness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I got this from Paul Peter Nicolai, a local lawyer many of you might know (on 8/12), and, after all, a month old. > Many are aware that the time for filing the paperwork necessary to > show that all or part of your payroll Protection Program loan should > be forgiven is coming up. > > There are two reasons why you should hold off on trying to file anything. > > 1. First, exactly what is needed is not quite determined and banks > are in different stages of being ready to accept the paperwork. > 2. Second, ongoing negotiation between the administration and > Congress that is such that PPP loans under some threshold - likely > to be about $150,000 - are simply going to be forgiven without any > requirement of proof being filed. Of course, we will not know > whether this is the case or what level it would apply at until > there is a negotiated deal passed by Congress and signed by the > president. > See: https://www.masslive.com/business/2020/08/small-business-administration-has-opened-its-paycheck-protection-program-forgiveness-portal-heres-why-many-small-businesses-will-have-to-wait.html On 9/23/2020 5:21 PM, Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi All, > > It's hugely complicated, and I expect to resolve it via my firm's CPA > soon, but meanwhile I wonder if this recap to my CPA resonates with > any others of you trying to battle the effects of banking lobbyists > working to reduce US-wide PPP loan forgiveness: > > When I applied to the loan on 4/9, calcuations were based on > payroll, no S-Corp [or C-Corp] owner distinction. So I applied for > the amount I did based on that. The later rule change regarding > S-corp owners seems wrong--it changes the terms of the loan > /after/ making a business decision to get the loan at all--hence > my thinking it's best to invoke: > > * > > ?Borrowers and lenders may rely on the guidance provided in > this document as SBA?s interpretation of the CARES Act and of > the Paycheck Protection Program Interim Final Rules (?PPP > Interim Final Rules?)(link). The U.S. government will not > challenge lender PPP actions that conform to this guidance, > and to the PPP Interim Final Rules and any subsequent > rulemakingin effect at the time.? ( > > * > > *https://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/Paycheck-Protection-Program-Frequently-Asked-Questions_04%2024%2020.pdf > 4/24/20)* > > * > * > *Also, I applied based on rent paid, regardless of later rule > changes negating forgiveness for rent paid to the business owner > or to a relative of the owner. * > * > * > *But if other ways to slice this will work for getting all > forgiveness, I'd do that, being cognizant of the National Law > Reivew's warning that choosing any rules after one's PPP loan > application date (4/9 for me) could mean "that to be eligible for > this safe harbor, borrowers may need to keep all full time > equivalent employees employed even after the covered period ends" > up to 12/31/2020.* > > I coud write a small book on the many ways that the ever-changing PPP > rules/laws together with PR lure small businesses into taking the bait > on the 24-week option and/or delying forgiveness application, which > reduces forgiveness and increases debt. And forget about the PR about > all loans under 150G maybe being forgiven automatically--it spurs more > delays in forgiveness applications, which will benefit the big banks > that buy the books of PPP loans from small banks and then change the > rules (the CARES Act allows that) for profit and perhaps collateralize > some of the debt into CLOs to sell to investors. > > But to keep focus, I wonder if anyone has insight on the legality of > in fact invoking the laws that were in effect when one applied to the > original PPP loan, so as to obviate all later rules. > > Take Care, > > > Rob Laporte > > Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman > > DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money > > 413-584-6500 > > rob at 2disc.com ?| LinkedIn > | 2DISC.com > > > *NOTE:*?Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If > you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for Arts and relaxation: http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob at 2disc.com Thu Sep 24 13:50:52 2020 From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 13:50:52 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Squirly laws in PPP Loan Forgiveness Message-ID: Think of it: what does waiting do, on average out there? Over weeks and months in 2020, more businesses are more likely to reduce employees and/or pay per employee. The PPP loan funds get spent, and then the economy, dismal outside of Wall Street, accelerates this reduction. Many small businesses are sole proprietorships, or S-Corps, or C-Corp owned by one or few. Changed laws require that they must calculate forgiveness differently from when they first applied to PPP. Yes, changed rules allow a little more non-payroll calculated in forgiveness, but, on average out there, that math does not pan out favorably, at least as far as I can tell now. My firm would make full forgiveness almost no matter how you slice it because we in fact kept up payrolls (by luck three big clients actually benefitted from the pandemic), but I worry that once one forgoes the deal one signed, one is open to any future changes to come. Follow the money: who gains by this? To answer that question, it helps but is not necessary, to understand just how crucial debt, even shady debt, is to capitalism today. Bottom line is that to sign for a substantial loan under the terms extant upon signing should absolutely entitle one to proceed according to the terms "in effect at the time" (SBA & Treasury Dept.), and not be subject to new terms. That seems the interesting legal matter here. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:48 PM To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Squirly laws in PPP Loan Forgiveness I got this from Paul Peter Nicolai, a local lawyer many of you might know (on 8/12), and, after all, a month old. Many are aware that the time for filing the paperwork necessary to show that all or part of your payroll Protection Program loan should be forgiven is coming up. There are two reasons why you should hold off on trying to file anything. 1. First, exactly what is needed is not quite determined and banks are in different stages of being ready to accept the paperwork. 2. Second, ongoing negotiation between the administration and Congress that is such that PPP loans under some threshold - likely to be about $150,000 - are simply going to be forgiven without any requirement of proof being filed. Of course, we will not know whether this is the case or what level it would apply at until there is a negotiated deal passed by Congress and signed by the president. See: https://www.masslive.com/business/2020/08/small-business-administration-has-opened-its-paycheck-protection-program-forgiveness-portal-heres-why-many-small-businesses-will-have-to-wait.html On 9/23/2020 5:21 PM, Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss wrote: Hi All, It's hugely complicated, and I expect to resolve it via my firm's CPA soon, but meanwhile I wonder if this recap to my CPA resonates with any others of you trying to battle the effects of banking lobbyists working to reduce US-wide PPP loan forgiveness: When I applied to the loan on 4/9, calcuations were based on payroll, no S-Corp [or C-Corp] owner distinction. So I applied for the amount I did based on that. The later rule change regarding S-corp owners seems wrong--it changes the terms of the loan after making a business decision to get the loan at all--hence my thinking it's best to invoke: ?Borrowers and lenders may rely on the guidance provided in this document as SBA?s interpretation of the CARES Act and of the Paycheck Protection Program Interim Final Rules (?PPP Interim Final Rules?) (link). The U.S. government will not challenge lender PPP actions that conform to this guidance, and to the PPP Interim Final Rules and any subsequent rulemaking in effect at the time.? ( https://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files/2020-04/Paycheck-Protection-Program-Frequently-Asked-Questions_04%2024%2020.pdf 4/24/20) Also, I applied based on rent paid, regardless of later rule changes negating forgiveness for rent paid to the business owner or to a relative of the owner. But if other ways to slice this will work for getting all forgiveness, I'd do that, being cognizant of the National Law Reivew's warning that choosing any rules after one's PPP loan application date (4/9 for me) could mean "that to be eligible for this safe harbor, borrowers may need to keep all full time equivalent employees employed even after the covered period ends" up to 12/31/2020. I coud write a small book on the many ways that the ever-changing PPP rules/laws together with PR lure small businesses into taking the bait on the 24-week option and/or delying forgiveness application, which reduces forgiveness and increases debt. And forget about the PR about all loans under 150G maybe being forgiven automatically--it spurs more delays in forgiveness applications, which will benefit the big banks that buy the books of PPP loans from small banks and then change the rules (the CARES Act allows that) for profit and perhaps collateralize some of the debt into CLOs to sell to investors. But to keep focus, I wonder if anyone has insight on the legality of in fact invoking the laws that were in effect when one applied to the original PPP loan, so as to obviate all later rules. Take Care, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for Arts and relaxation: http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dianahardina at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 23:31:45 2020 From: dianahardina at gmail.com (Diana Hardina) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 19:31:45 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? Message-ID: I would love to have a large screen to watch movies from netflix and Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen when I am not watching so I would put it behind a large, vintage u.s map that would roll up to expose the screen. So I don't want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table either ) 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power and ethernet. 2. I don't want cable tv 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other services. I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but would be happy to just have a remote. Any current technologies that would work for me? Thanks to anyone who has got this going. Diana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heller at deepsoft.com Sun Sep 27 01:13:39 2020 From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2020 21:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20200927011339.21997223E02@sharky4.deepsoft.com> At Sat, 26 Sep 2020 19:31:45 -0400 Diana Hardina wrote: > > I would love to have a large screen to watch movies from netflix and > Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen when I am not watching so I would > put it behind a large, vintage u.s map that would roll up to expose the > screen. So I don't want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table > either ) > 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power and ethernet. > 2. I don't want cable tv > 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other services. > I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. A smart TV should include the Netflix "app", along with all of the other stuff. I doubt you could get a Netflix only TV -- there is probably not really a market for that (much as Netflix would like that). > 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but would be happy > to just have a remote. > Any current technologies that would work for me? > Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > Diana > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services From rich at tnrglobal.com Mon Sep 28 13:09:55 2020 From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 09:09:55 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for zoom/virtual event directors/managers/advisors Message-ID: <43f5b333-5487-440d-c403-432ba4e2744c@tnrglobal.com> I've run into a number of requests for help with virtual events. This goes beyond simple one-time zoom meetings, Into webinars, museum/art exhibits and others. It could include ticket/subscription sales and promotion. Some require all, some only 1-2 aspects. They are not restricted to using Zoom, in fact that is part of the reason for finding experienced people. Some are for non-profits, but that doesn't mean no payment, more about flexibility or, even better finding grants. This is why I'm calling some needing directors, while some are just looking for advice. Please contract me directly and I'll put you in touch, and create a resource for common use. Any type of resources are well, including businesses, consulting, publications et al. Thanks and be Well Rich -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for Arts and relaxation: http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com From tech at montaguewebworks.com Mon Sep 28 13:20:11 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 09:20:11 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for Wordpress and Facebook help Message-ID: <3cd56998-b94e-6185-394e-90046ed71b43@montaguewebworks.com> Posting again for a friend. Please contact Tom directly. -Mik ---------------------------------------- Hi, we just spoke on the phone about my WordPress website and Facebook page and you suggested I send you a note. I would like help updating and adding to my website and help creating a Facebook page for my small business. Thanks for your help passing this note along. Tom Elmore The GeoNAV Group, LLC Suffield, CT 860-370-2002 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tech at montaguewebworks.com Mon Sep 28 13:33:04 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 09:33:04 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Diana, Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay for, making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a "smart tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. Then go buy a Roku. Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. Mik --- Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > ?I would love to have a large screen to watch movies from?netflix and > Hulu.? ( I never want to see the screen when I am not watching so I > would put it behind a large, vintage u.s map that would roll up to > expose?the screen. So I don't want any black boxes that would have to > sit on a table either ) > 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power and ethernet. > 2. I don't want cable tv > 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other services. > I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. > 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but would be > happy to just have a remote. > Any current technologies that would work for me? > Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > Diana > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattwolaver at gmail.com Mon Sep 28 14:12:58 2020 From: mattwolaver at gmail.com (Matthew Wolaver) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 10:12:58 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think projectors are the way to go, you can get them really cheap now and project HUGE and they are invisible. You can project on a light colored wall or get a dropdown screen. You just want to make sure the room doesn't have much ambient light. You can connect these to an hdmi or wirelessly mirror your computer screen with mira cast or airplay type solutions that many projectors come with. Good luck! On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Diana, > > Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay for, making sure > it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a "smart tv", just needs an HDMI > cable input. > > Then go buy a Roku. > > Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. > > Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > > Mik > > --- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > 413-320-5336http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > I would love to have a large screen to watch movies from netflix and > Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen when I am not watching so I would > put it behind a large, vintage u.s map that would roll up to expose the > screen. So I don't want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table > either ) > 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power and ethernet. > 2. I don't want cable tv > 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other services. > I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. > 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but would be > happy to just have a remote. > Any current technologies that would work for me? > Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > Diana > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alex at justpeachy.io Mon Sep 28 14:14:16 2020 From: alex at justpeachy.io (Alex at Just Peachy) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 10:14:16 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Seconding Mik's recommendation! If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results with the Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Diana, > > Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay for, making sure > it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a "smart tv", just needs an HDMI > cable input. > > Then go buy a Roku. > > Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. > > Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > > Mik > > --- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > 413-320-5336http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > I would love to have a large screen to watch movies from netflix and > Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen when I am not watching so I would > put it behind a large, vintage u.s map that would roll up to expose the > screen. So I don't want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table > either ) > 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power and ethernet. > 2. I don't want cable tv > 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other services. > I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. > 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but would be > happy to just have a remote. > Any current technologies that would work for me? > Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > Diana > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dianahardina at gmail.com Mon Sep 28 14:44:52 2020 From: dianahardina at gmail.com (Diana Hardina) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 10:44:52 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital projector and even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I have found out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was turned off of that idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out screen for purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 years ago. I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard attached to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might work. So the current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI cable?), which I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it would be easier. On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy wrote: > Seconding Mik's recommendation! > > If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results with the Apple > TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Diana, >> >> Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay for, making sure >> it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a "smart tv", just needs an HDMI >> cable input. >> >> Then go buy a Roku. >> >> Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. >> >> Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. >> >> Mik >> >> --- >> Mik Muller, president >> Montague WebWorks >> 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA >> 413-320-5336http://MontagueWebWorks.com >> Powered by ROCKETFUSION >> >> On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> I would love to have a large screen to watch movies from netflix and >> Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen when I am not watching so I would >> put it behind a large, vintage u.s map that would roll up to expose the >> screen. So I don't want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table >> either ) >> 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power and ethernet. >> 2. I don't want cable tv >> 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other services. >> I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. >> 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but would be >> happy to just have a remote. >> Any current technologies that would work for me? >> Thanks to anyone who has got this going. >> Diana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwerner at jwdp.com Mon Sep 28 17:57:02 2020 From: jwerner at jwdp.com (Jan Werner) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 13:57:02 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend getting a Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of the smart TV operating systems. The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, which you said are the only two things you are interested in watching. If you get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote to turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at least one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an on-screen keyboard on any phone or tablet. Jan Werner ____________ On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital projector and > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I have found > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was turned off of that > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out screen for > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 years ago. > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard attached > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might work. So the > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI cable?), which > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it would be easier. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy > wrote: > > Seconding Mik's recommendation! > > If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results with the > Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss > > wrote: > > Diana, > > Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay for, > making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a "smart > tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. > > Then go buy a Roku. > > Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. > > Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > > Mik > > --- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > 413-320-5336 > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> ?I would love to have a large screen to watch movies >> from?netflix and Hulu.? ( I never want to see the screen when >> I am not watching so I would put it behind a large, vintage >> u.s map that would roll up to expose?the screen. So I don't >> want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table either ) >> 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power >> and ethernet. >> 2. I don't want cable tv >> 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other services. >> I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. >> 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but >> would be happy to just have a remote. >> Any current technologies that would work for me? >> Thanks to anyone who has got this going. >> Diana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > From rich at tnrglobal.com Mon Sep 28 19:33:34 2020 From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 15:33:34 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Zoom meeting closed captions - anyone with experience Message-ID: <5404e14b-cff0-c099-f0b1-65a20e7cdf25@tnrglobal.com> More virtual meeting exploration Anyone have experience with closed captioning ? Not using automatic, it does not appear very accurate esp for more technical presentations. I'm mostly expecting to need it for video taped presentations and I see options for uploading the transcript OR using a web API. Anyone used either of these or know someone who has ? Thanks -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for Arts and relaxation: http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com From dianahardina at gmail.com Mon Sep 28 20:18:33 2020 From: dianahardina at gmail.com (Diana Hardina) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:18:33 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner wrote: > Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend getting a > Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of the smart > TV operating systems. > > The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, which > you said are the only two things you are interested in watching. If you > get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote to > turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at least > one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. > > If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an on-screen > keyboard on any phone or tablet. > > Jan Werner > ____________ > > On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital projector and > > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I have found > > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was turned off of that > > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out screen for > > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 years ago. > > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard attached > > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might work. So the > > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI cable?), which > > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it would be easier. > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy > > wrote: > > > > Seconding Mik's recommendation! > > > > If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results with the > > Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss > > > > wrote: > > > > Diana, > > > > Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay for, > > making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a "smart > > tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. > > > > Then go buy a Roku. > > > > Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. > > > > Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > > > > Mik > > > > --- > > Mik Muller, president > > Montague WebWorks > > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > > 413-320-5336 > > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > > > On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > >> I would love to have a large screen to watch movies > >> from netflix and Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen when > >> I am not watching so I would put it behind a large, vintage > >> u.s map that would roll up to expose the screen. So I don't > >> want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table either ) > >> 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power > >> and ethernet. > >> 2. I don't want cable tv > >> 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other > services. > >> I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. > >> 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but > >> would be happy to just have a remote. > >> Any current technologies that would work for me? > >> Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > >> Diana > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > http://www.hidden-tech.net > >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > >> > >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the > Members > >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members < > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members> > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > > Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the > Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwerner at jwdp.com Mon Sep 28 20:43:28 2020 From: jwerner at jwdp.com (Jan Werner) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:43:28 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the PC in order to show the output on the TV screen. You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a PC screen on the TV. Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs without needing any other hardware. Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. Jan Werner _______________ On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: > oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > wrote: > > Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend > getting a > Roku too.? In my experience Roku works far better than any of the smart > TV operating systems. > > The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, which > you said are the only two things you are interested in watching.? If > you > get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote to > turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at least > one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. > > If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an > on-screen > keyboard on any phone or tablet. > > Jan Werner > ____________ > > On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital > projector and > > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I > have found > > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was turned off > of that > > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out screen > for > > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 > years ago. > > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard > attached > > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might work. So > the > > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI cable?), > which > > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it would be > easier. > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy > > > >> wrote: > > > >? ? ?Seconding Mik's recommendation! > > > >? ? ?If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results with the > >? ? ?Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. > > > >? ? ?On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via > Hidden-discuss > >? ? ? > >? ? ? >> wrote: > > > >? ? ? ? ?Diana, > > > >? ? ? ? ?Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay for, > >? ? ? ? ?making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a "smart > >? ? ? ? ?tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. > > > >? ? ? ? ?Then go buy a Roku. > > > >? ? ? ? ?Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. > > > >? ? ? ? ?Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > > > >? ? ? ? ?Mik > > > >? ? ? ? ?--- > >? ? ? ? ?Mik Muller, president > >? ? ? ? ?Montague WebWorks > >? ? ? ? ?239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > >? ? ? ? ?413-320-5336 > > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > > >? ? ? ? ?Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > > >? ? ? ? ?On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > >>? ? ? ? ??I would love to have a large screen to watch movies > >>? ? ? ? ?from?netflix and Hulu.? ( I never want to see the screen > when > >>? ? ? ? ?I am not watching so I would put it behind a large, vintage > >>? ? ? ? ?u.s map that would roll up to expose?the screen. So I don't > >>? ? ? ? ?want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table > either ) > >>? ? ? ? ?1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power > >>? ? ? ? ?and ethernet. > >>? ? ? ? ?2. I don't want cable tv > >>? ? ? ? ?3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other > services. > >>? ? ? ? ?I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. > >>? ? ? ? ?4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but > >>? ? ? ? ?would be happy to just have a remote. > >>? ? ? ? ?Any current technologies that would work for me? > >>? ? ? ? ?Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > >>? ? ? ? ?Diana > >> > >>? ? ? ? ?_______________________________________________ > >>? ? ? ? ?Hidden-discuss mailing list - home > page:http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > >> > >>? ? ? ? ?You are receiving this because you are on the > Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > >>? ? ? ? ?If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > the Members > >>? ? ? ? ?page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > >? ? ? ? ?_______________________________________________ > >? ? ? ? ?Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > >? ? ? ? ? > > > > >? ? ? ? ?You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > >? ? ? ? ?Discussion list. > >? ? ? ? ?If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > the Members > >? ? ? ? ?page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > >? ? ? ? ? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > From dianahardina at gmail.com Mon Sep 28 22:05:51 2020 From: dianahardina at gmail.com (Diana Hardina) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 18:05:51 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> Message-ID: Because this screen in the same room as a modem I will use ethernet because I don't want to use any bandwidth on the Wi-Fi because there's four other people in the house who share that signal. since I'm going to be just producing my screen onto the larger screen I guess I can just watch Netflix in Hulu from there and don't need the Roku or smart TV. On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 4:43 PM Jan Werner wrote: > The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the PC in > order to show the output on the TV screen. > > You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on > your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a > PC screen on the TV. Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you > to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs > without needing any other hardware. > > Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and > Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. > > Jan Werner > _______________ > > > On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: > > oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > > wrote: > > > > Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend > > getting a > > Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of the > smart > > TV operating systems. > > > > The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, > which > > you said are the only two things you are interested in watching. If > > you > > get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote > to > > turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at > least > > one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. > > > > If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an > > on-screen > > keyboard on any phone or tablet. > > > > Jan Werner > > ____________ > > > > On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital > > projector and > > > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I > > have found > > > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was turned off > > of that > > > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out screen > > for > > > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 > > years ago. > > > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard > > attached > > > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might work. So > > the > > > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI cable?), > > which > > > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it would be > > easier. > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > Seconding Mik's recommendation! > > > > > > If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results with > the > > > Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via > > Hidden-discuss > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > Diana, > > > > > > Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay > for, > > > making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a > "smart > > > tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. > > > > > > Then go buy a Roku. > > > > > > Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. > > > > > > Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > > > > > > Mik > > > > > > --- > > > Mik Muller, president > > > Montague WebWorks > > > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > > > 413-320-5336 > > > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > > > > > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > > > > > On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss > wrote: > > >> I would love to have a large screen to watch movies > > >> from netflix and Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen > > when > > >> I am not watching so I would put it behind a large, > vintage > > >> u.s map that would roll up to expose the screen. So I > don't > > >> want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table > > either ) > > >> 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( > power > > >> and ethernet. > > >> 2. I don't want cable tv > > >> 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other > > services. > > >> I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to > use. > > >> 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, > but > > >> would be happy to just have a remote. > > >> Any current technologies that would work for me? > > >> Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > > >> Diana > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home > > page:http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > > > >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > > > >> > > >> You are receiving this because you are on the > > Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > > >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > > the Members > > >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > > > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > > > Discussion list. > > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > > the Members > > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > > Discussion list. > > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the > Members > > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwerner at jwdp.com Tue Sep 29 00:08:22 2020 From: jwerner at jwdp.com (Jan Werner) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:08:22 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> Message-ID: You haven't said what kind of laptop you have, but I gather it is connected to the router through an ethernet cable. To send the computer screen video to a TV you need to connect the laptop directly to the TV with an HDMI cable, not ethernet. Ethernet carries network data, not video signals. To send video to the TV over ethernet, you need two things: 1) Software on the laptop to convert the video signal and transmit it over the network. Windows 10 and Android have that capability built in, Apple does not without extra hardware. 2) A computer at the TV end that can read the data from the network and convert it back to a video signal the TV can display. A smart TV is a TV with the computer to do that conversion built in. Roku is a computer designed to do that with any TV. If you want to connect your laptop to a TV through ethernet, you would need a Roku Ultra, which has an ethernet port, or a smart TV with a built in ethernet port. Jan Werner _____________ On 9/28/2020 6:05 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: > Because this screen in the same room as a modem I will useethernet > because I don't want to use any bandwidth on the Wi-Fi because there's > four other people in the house who share that signal. since I'm going to > be just producing my screen onto the larger screen I guess I can just > watch Netflix in Hulu from there and don't need the Roku or smart TV. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 4:43 PM Jan Werner > wrote: > > The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the > PC in > order to show the output on the TV screen. > > You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on > your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a > PC screen on the TV.? Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you > to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs > without needing any other hardware. > > Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and > Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. > > Jan Werner > _______________ > > > On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: > > oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet > browser. > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > > >> wrote: > > > >? ? ?Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend > >? ? ?getting a > >? ? ?Roku too.? In my experience Roku works far better than any of > the smart > >? ? ?TV operating systems. > > > >? ? ?The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and > Hulu, which > >? ? ?you said are the only two things you are interested in > watching.? If > >? ? ?you > >? ? ?get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku > remote to > >? ? ?turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that > at least > >? ? ?one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. > > > >? ? ?If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an > >? ? ?on-screen > >? ? ?keyboard on any phone or tablet. > > > >? ? ?Jan Werner > >? ? ?____________ > > > >? ? ?On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > >? ? ? > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital > >? ? ?projector and > >? ? ? > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I > >? ? ?have found > >? ? ? > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was > turned off > >? ? ?of that > >? ? ? > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out > screen > >? ? ?for > >? ? ? > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 > >? ? ?years ago. > >? ? ? > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard > >? ? ?attached > >? ? ? > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might > work. So > >? ? ?the > >? ? ? > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI > cable?), > >? ? ?which > >? ? ? > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it > would be > >? ? ?easier. > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy > >? ? ? > > > >? ? ? > > >>> wrote: > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ?Seconding Mik's recommendation! > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ?If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good > results with the > >? ? ? >? ? ?Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ?On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via > >? ? ?Hidden-discuss > >? ? ? >? ? ? > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? > >? ? ? >>> wrote: > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Diana, > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing > to pay for, > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to > be a "smart > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Then go buy a Roku. > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or > whatever. > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Mik > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?--- > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Mik Muller, president > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Montague WebWorks > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?413-320-5336 > >? ? ? > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > > >? ? ? > >> > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Powered by ROCKETFUSION > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via > Hidden-discuss wrote: > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ??I would love to have a large screen to watch movies > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?from?netflix and Hulu.? ( I never want to see the > screen > >? ? ?when > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?I am not watching so I would put it behind a > large, vintage > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?u.s map that would roll up to expose?the screen. > So I don't > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?want any black boxes that would have to sit on a > table > >? ? ?either ) > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 > cords ( power > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?and ethernet. > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?2. I don't want cable tv > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy > any other > >? ? ?services. > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?I had a roku stick once and that was too > cumbersome to use. > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?4. I have a laptop that I would like to control > it with, but > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?would be happy to just have a remote. > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?Any current technologies that would work for me? > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?Diana > >? ? ? >> > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?_______________________________________________ > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?Hidden-discuss mailing list - home > >? ? ?page:http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > >? ? ? > >> > >? ? ? >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? > >? ? ? >> > >? ? ? >> > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?You are receiving this because you are on the > >? ? ?Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?If you would like to change your list > preferences, Go to > >? ? ?the Members > >? ? ? >>? ? ? ? ?page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >? ? ? >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? > >? ? ? >> > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?_______________________________________________ > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > >? ? ? > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > >? ? ? > >> > >? ? ? > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ? > >? ? ? >> > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?You are receiving this because you are on the > Hidden-Tech > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?Discussion list. > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?If you would like to change your list preferences, > Go to > >? ? ?the Members > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ?page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >? ? ? > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? >? ? ? ? ? > >? ? ? >> > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? > _______________________________________________ > >? ? ? > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > >? ? ? > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > >? ? ?Discussion list. > >? ? ? > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > the Members > >? ? ? > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >? ? ? > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > >? ? ? > > >? ? ? > > > > From heller at deepsoft.com Tue Sep 29 11:57:48 2020 From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 07:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> Message-ID: <20200929115748.1945A220962@sharky4.deepsoft.com> At Mon, 28 Sep 2020 20:08:22 -0400 Jan Werner wrote: > > > You haven't said what kind of laptop you have, but I gather it is > connected to the router through an ethernet cable. > > To send the computer screen video to a TV you need to connect the laptop > directly to the TV with an HDMI cable, not ethernet. > > Ethernet carries network data, not video signals. > > To send video to the TV over ethernet, you need two things: > > 1) Software on the laptop to convert the video signal and transmit it > over the network. Windows 10 and Android have that capability built in, > Apple does not without extra hardware. > > 2) A computer at the TV end that can read the data from the network and > convert it back to a video signal the TV can display. > > A smart TV is a TV with the computer to do that conversion built in. > Roku is a computer designed to do that with any TV. *Some* smart TVs include a Media Server Client. This can connect to a Media Server deamon. There are several Media Server deamons available. Some for Linux, some for MS-Windows, some for both. Do a web search for "Media Server". The Media Server esentually makes some part of the server machines hard drive available to the Media Server Client (eg the smart TV, Roku stick, or some BluRay players). There is also "screen cast", which is something like Bluetooth, something like used for things like Bluetooth speakers or headphones, but for video. It is some sort of wireless protocol and is implemented by some computers and smart phones and corresponding with some smart TV, Roku stick, or some BluRay players. > > If you want to connect your laptop to a TV through ethernet, you would > need a Roku Ultra, which has an ethernet port, or a smart TV with a > built in ethernet port. > > Jan Werner > > _____________ > > On 9/28/2020 6:05 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: > > Because this screen in the same room as a modem I will useethernet > > because I don't want to use any bandwidth on the Wi-Fi because there's > > four other people in the house who share that signal. since I'm going to > > be just producing my screen onto the larger screen I guess I can just > > watch Netflix in Hulu from there and don't need the Roku or smart TV. > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 4:43 PM Jan Werner > > wrote: > > > > The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the > > PC in > > order to show the output on the TV screen. > > > > You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on > > your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a > > PC screen on the TV.???? Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you > > to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs > > without needing any other hardware. > > > > Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and > > Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. > > > > Jan Werner > > _______________ > > > > > > On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: > > > oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet > > browser. > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >???? ???? ????Any TV you buy today is going to be ??????smart,?????? but I??????d recommend > > >???? ???? ????getting a > > >???? ???? ????Roku too.???? In my experience Roku works far better than any of > > the smart > > >???? ???? ????TV operating systems. > > > > > >???? ???? ????The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and > > Hulu, which > > >???? ???? ????you said are the only two things you are interested in > > watching.???? If > > >???? ???? ????you > > >???? ???? ????get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku > > remote to > > >???? ???? ????turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that > > at least > > >???? ???? ????one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. > > > > > >???? ???? ????If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an > > >???? ???? ????on-screen > > >???? ???? ????keyboard on any phone or tablet. > > > > > >???? ???? ????Jan Werner > > >???? ???? ????____________ > > > > > >???? ???? ????On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > >???? ???? ???? > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital > > >???? ???? ????projector and > > >???? ???? ???? > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I > > >???? ???? ????have found > > >???? ???? ???? > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was > > turned off > > >???? ???? ????of that > > >???? ???? ???? > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out > > screen > > >???? ???? ????for > > >???? ???? ???? > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 > > >???? ???? ????years ago. > > >???? ???? ???? > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard > > >???? ???? ????attached > > >???? ???? ???? > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might > > work. So > > >???? ???? ????the > > >???? ???? ???? > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI > > cable?), > > >???? ???? ????which > > >???? ???? ???? > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it > > would be > > >???? ???? ????easier. > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy > > >???? ???? ???? > > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >>> wrote: > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ????Seconding Mik's recommendation! > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ????If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good > > results with the > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ????Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ????On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via > > >???? ???? ????Hidden-discuss > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > >>> wrote: > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Diana, > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing > > to pay for, > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to > > be a "smart > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Then go buy a Roku. > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or > > whatever. > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Mik > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????--- > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Mik Muller, president > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Montague WebWorks > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????413-320-5336 > > >???? ???? ???? > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > >> > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via > > Hidden-discuss wrote: > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????????I would love to have a large screen to watch movies > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????from????netflix and Hulu.???? ( I never want to see the > > screen > > >???? ???? ????when > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????I am not watching so I would put it behind a > > large, vintage > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????u.s map that would roll up to expose????the screen. > > So I don't > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????want any black boxes that would have to sit on a > > table > > >???? ???? ????either ) > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 > > cords ( power > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????and ethernet. > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????2. I don't want cable tv > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy > > any other > > >???? ???? ????services. > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????I had a roku stick once and that was too > > cumbersome to use. > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????4. I have a laptop that I would like to control > > it with, but > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????would be happy to just have a remote. > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????Any current technologies that would work for me? > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????Diana > > >???? ???? ???? >> > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????_______________________________________________ > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????Hidden-discuss mailing list - home > > >???? ???? ????page:http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > >> > > >???? ???? ???? >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > >> > > >???? ???? ???? >> > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????You are receiving this because you are on the > > >???? ???? ????Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????If you would like to change your list > > preferences, Go to > > >???? ???? ????the Members > > >???? ???? ???? >>???? ???? ???? ???? ????page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > >???? ???? ???? >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > >> > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????_______________________________________________ > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > > >???? ???? ???? > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > >> > > >???? ???? ???? > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > >> > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????You are receiving this because you are on the > > Hidden-Tech > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????Discussion list. > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????If you would like to change your list preferences, > > Go to > > >???? ???? ????the Members > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ????page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > >???? ???? ???? > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > > >???? ???? ???? >???? ???? ???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > >> > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > _______________________________________________ > > >???? ???? ???? > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > > > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > > > >???? ???? ???? > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > >???? ???? ???? > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > > >???? ???? ????Discussion list. > > >???? ???? ???? > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > > the Members > > >???? ???? ???? > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > >???? ???? ???? > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > > >???? ???? ???? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services From rcdanek at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 12:23:57 2020 From: rcdanek at gmail.com (Richard "Casey" Danek) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:23:57 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> Message-ID: <4b0d7124-e4f6-d949-2973-1acfc1a972ac@gmail.com> In my first reply to this thread, I explained how I used a large screen TV as my monitor. I did this to demonstrate that everything you wanted to be done could be, more or less. However, you had stipulated that you didn't want a box anywhere, so I avoided making this suggestion; I'll do it now. Depending on if your laptop has an HDMI output, you can connect it to the HDMI of your TV. Set up your laptop so that it either mirrors onto the TV or extends your desktop. I think mirroring would be preferred. You can then see whatever your laptop sees on the TV. For convenience, you can get a wireless keyboard and mouse and control the laptop from you couch/chair. (It's how I do it but I use a PC instead of a laptop.) Make sure you set up your laptop so that it doesn't go to sleep when you close the lid and you can then close it and you'll see your desktop on your TV without a laptop screen distraction. Now, you can run Netflix and Hulu and many of the other streaming services. I actually have set up an inexpensive Chromebook to do this on another TV monitor elsewhere in m home...remote keyboard/mouse and all. So, you don't need a separate streaming device like a Roku. You control things through your keyboard. You don't have to Chromecast anything. As long as you have a fairly modern laptop, you'll have no trouble with the playback. I have a 10+ year old Mac Mini with an older, slower processor and I don't like the playback through it. My cheap newer Chromebook outperforms it for video. On 9/28/2020 8:08 PM, Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > You haven't said what kind of laptop you have, but I gather it is > connected to the router through an ethernet cable. > > To send the computer screen video to a TV you need to connect the > laptop directly to the TV with an HDMI cable, not ethernet... From tech at montaguewebworks.com Tue Sep 29 13:09:35 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 09:09:35 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> Message-ID: <59f3cfb6-ac4a-1e71-6f74-c9931821ae11@montaguewebworks.com> If you will be using your Chrome browser, you can buy a Chromecast device, which connects to the TV via HDMI and uses WiFi to connect your laptop's Chrome browser. You would choose the Chromecast as the device to display the video, or whatever, and the Cast will stream it to the TV. Roku's are inexpensive ... https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=roku ... as are Chromecasts ... https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=chromecast Mik --- Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION On 9/28/2020 4:43 PM, Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss wrote: > The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the PC > in order to show the output on the TV screen. > > You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on > your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates > a PC screen on the TV.? Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow > you to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart > TVs without needing any other hardware. > > Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and > Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. > > Jan Werner > _______________ > > > On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: >> oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. >> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > > wrote: >> >> ??? Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend >> ??? getting a >> ??? Roku too.? In my experience Roku works far better than any of the >> smart >> ??? TV operating systems. >> >> ??? The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, >> which >> ??? you said are the only two things you are interested in watching.? If >> ??? you >> ??? get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku >> remote to >> ??? turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at >> least >> ??? one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. >> >> ??? If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an >> ??? on-screen >> ??? keyboard on any phone or tablet. >> >> ??? Jan Werner >> ??? ____________ >> >> ??? On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> ???? > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital >> ??? projector and >> ???? > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I >> ??? have found >> ???? > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was turned off >> ??? of that >> ???? > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out screen >> ??? for >> ???? > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 >> ??? years ago. >> ???? > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard >> ??? attached >> ???? > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might work. So >> ??? the >> ???? > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI cable?), >> ??? which >> ???? > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it would be >> ??? easier. >> ???? > >> ???? > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy >> ??? >> ???? > >> wrote: >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ?Seconding Mik's recommendation! >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ?If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results >> with the >> ???? >? ? ?Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ?On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via >> ??? Hidden-discuss >> ???? >? ? ?> ??? >> ???? >? ? ?> ??? >> wrote: >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?Diana, >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to >> pay for, >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a >> "smart >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?Then go buy a Roku. >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?Mik >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?--- >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?Mik Muller, president >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?Montague WebWorks >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?413-320-5336 >> ???? > http://MontagueWebWorks.com >> > >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?Powered by ROCKETFUSION >> ???? > >> ???? >? ? ? ? ?On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss >> wrote: >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ??I would love to have a large screen to watch movies >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?from?netflix and Hulu.? ( I never want to see the screen >> ??? when >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?I am not watching so I would put it behind a large, >> vintage >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?u.s map that would roll up to expose?the screen. So I >> don't >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table >> ??? either ) >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( >> power >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?and ethernet. >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?2. I don't want cable tv >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other >> ??? services. >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome >> to use. >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it >> with, but >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?would be happy to just have a remote. >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?Any current technologies that would work for me? >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?Thanks to anyone who has got this going. >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?Diana >> ???? >> >> ???? >> ?_______________________________________________ >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?Hidden-discuss mailing list - home >> ??? page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >> > >> ???? >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> ??? >> > ??? > >> ???? >> >> ???? >>? ? ? ? ?You are receiving this because you are on the >> ??? 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Discussion list. >> ???? > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the >> Members >> ???? > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> ???? > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> ??? >> ???? > >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dianahardina at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 13:36:27 2020 From: dianahardina at gmail.com (Diana Hardina) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 09:36:27 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: <59f3cfb6-ac4a-1e71-6f74-c9931821ae11@montaguewebworks.com> References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> <59f3cfb6-ac4a-1e71-6f74-c9931821ae11@montaguewebworks.com> Message-ID: Right now I have a 9 year old macbook pro, but would consider buying a chrome book for this purpose, but now maybe a chromecast plug in. I could plug in ethernet to the laptop I have , but probably not the chrome book. Again, I'd rather not use the wifi bandwidth for the "entertainment center." I am pretty sure I don't need software to share the screen on an apple product, as I recall there is a mirror(?) function for displays. Diana. I will look at the links people have sent. Thanks! On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 9:09 AM Michael Muller wrote: > If you will be using your Chrome browser, you can buy a Chromecast device, > which connects to the TV via HDMI and uses WiFi to connect your laptop's > Chrome browser. You would choose the Chromecast as the device to display > the video, or whatever, and the Cast will stream it to the TV. > > Roku's are inexpensive ... > > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=roku > > ... as are Chromecasts ... > > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=chromecast > > Mik > > --- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > 413-320-5336http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > On 9/28/2020 4:43 PM, Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the PC in > order to show the output on the TV screen. > > You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on your > PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a PC > screen on the TV. Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you to > cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs without > needing any other hardware. > > Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and > Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. > > Jan Werner > _______________ > > > On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: > > oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > wrote: > > Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend > getting a > Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of the > smart > TV operating systems. > > The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, > which > you said are the only two things you are interested in watching. If > you > get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote to > turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at least > one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. > > If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an > on-screen > keyboard on any phone or tablet. > > Jan Werner > ____________ > > On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital > projector and > > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I > have found > > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was turned off > of that > > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out screen > for > > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 > years ago. > > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard > attached > > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might work. So > the > > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI cable?), > which > > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it would be > easier. > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy > > > > >> wrote: > > > > Seconding Mik's recommendation! > > > > If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results with > the > > Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. > > > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via > Hidden-discuss > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > Diana, > > > > Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay > for, > > making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a > "smart > > tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. > > > > Then go buy a Roku. > > > > Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. > > > > Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > > > > Mik > > > > --- > > Mik Muller, president > > Montague WebWorks > > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > > 413-320-5336 > > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > > > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > > > On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss > wrote: > >> I would love to have a large screen to watch movies > >> from netflix and Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen > when > >> I am not watching so I would put it behind a large, > vintage > >> u.s map that would roll up to expose the screen. So I > don't > >> want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table > either ) > >> 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( > power > >> and ethernet. > >> 2. I don't want cable tv > >> 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other > services. > >> I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to > use. > >> 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, > but > >> would be happy to just have a remote. > >> Any current technologies that would work for me? > >> Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > >> Diana > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home > page:http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > < > mailto:Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > >> > >> You are receiving this because you are on the > Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > the Members > >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > < > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > > Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the > Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erikj at hungryghostdesign.com Tue Sep 29 15:04:10 2020 From: erikj at hungryghostdesign.com (Erik Jonsberg) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 11:04:10 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: <59f3cfb6-ac4a-1e71-6f74-c9931821ae11@montaguewebworks.com> References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> <59f3cfb6-ac4a-1e71-6f74-c9931821ae11@montaguewebworks.com> Message-ID: I noticed in your original post that you don?t want any boxes and wires cluttering your TV area. You can get a Roku enabled TV for cheap. Check out Amazon or go to Target or Walmart. They have plenty of options. As far as connecting a browser, you can just connect your laptop to your TV via HDMI. I do it all the time for gaming. > On Sep 29, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > If you will be using your Chrome browser, you can buy a Chromecast device, which connects to the TV via HDMI and uses WiFi to connect your laptop's Chrome browser. You would choose the Chromecast as the device to display the video, or whatever, and the Cast will stream it to the TV. > > Roku's are inexpensive ... > > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=roku > ... as are Chromecasts ... > > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=chromecast > Mik > > --- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > 413-320-5336 > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > On 9/28/2020 4:43 PM, Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the PC in order to show the output on the TV screen. >> >> You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a PC screen on the TV. Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs without needing any other hardware. >> >> Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. >> >> Jan Werner >> _______________ >> >> >> On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: >>> oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > wrote: >>> >>> Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend >>> getting a >>> Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of the smart >>> TV operating systems. >>> >>> The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, which >>> you said are the only two things you are interested in watching. If >>> you >>> get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote to >>> turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at least >>> one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. >>> >>> If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an >>> on-screen >>> keyboard on any phone or tablet. >>> >>> Jan Werner >>> ____________ >>> >>> On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital >>> projector and >>> > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I >>> have found >>> > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was turned off >>> of that >>> > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out screen >>> for >>> > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 >>> years ago. >>> > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard >>> attached >>> > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might work. So >>> the >>> > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI cable?), >>> which >>> > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it would be >>> easier. >>> > >>> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy >>> >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >>> > Seconding Mik's recommendation! >>> > >>> > If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results with the >>> > Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. >>> > >>> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via >>> Hidden-discuss >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >> wrote: >>> > >>> > Diana, >>> > >>> > Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay for, >>> > making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a "smart >>> > tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. >>> > >>> > Then go buy a Roku. >>> > >>> > Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. >>> > >>> > Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. >>> > >>> > Mik >>> > >>> > --- >>> > Mik Muller, president >>> > Montague WebWorks >>> > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA >>> > 413-320-5336 >>> > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > >>> > Powered by ROCKETFUSION >>> > >>> > On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> >> I would love to have a large screen to watch movies >>> >> from netflix and Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen >>> when >>> >> I am not watching so I would put it behind a large, vintage >>> >> u.s map that would roll up to expose the screen. So I don't >>> >> want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table >>> either ) >>> >> 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power >>> >> and ethernet. >>> >> 2. I don't want cable tv >>> >> 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other >>> services. >>> >> I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. >>> >> 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but >>> >> would be happy to just have a remote. >>> >> Any current technologies that would work for me? >>> >> Thanks to anyone who has got this going. >>> >> Diana >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home >>> page:http://www.hidden-tech.net > >>> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> You are receiving this because you are on the >>> Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to >>> the Members >>> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: >>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> > >>> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech >>> > Discussion list. >>> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to >>> the Members >>> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> > >>> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech >>> Discussion list. >>> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tech at montaguewebworks.com Tue Sep 29 16:34:52 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Mik Muller) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:34:52 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Spam Calls Message-ID: <50C7EDD9-EEA3-40BD-BFEC-1A594B2E106A@montaguewebworks.com> As a follow-up to the thread from last week, I just got this from Verizon: Verizon Msg: Great news, we're now sending potential Fraud calls to voicemail automatically. For extra protection, the iOS 14 update includes Silence Junk Callers, a new feature that auto-blocks potential Spam calls and sends them to your Recent calls & voicemail. For info & how to opt-out m.vzw.com/CallFilterFAQ Mik 413-320-5336 Sent from my iPhone From rich at on-the-net.com Tue Sep 29 16:59:21 2020 From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:59:21 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9b8c34ed-46ce-9078-83ef-25e77c3f3660@on-the-net.com> Ok, I've been watching this discussion and it occurred that many of the suggestions use use wifi, the most common Amazon fire and Chromecast use Wifi to the big screen or to the stream. SO make sure you get a wired device, there are versions that are, I found this on a quick look: https://videostreaminginsider.com/the-best-streaming-devices-with-ethernet-port/ And as for hiding the screen -- the newest large/smart screens are also art walls with a variety of viewing options. I found the whole topic so interesting that some time ago I setup: ??? ??? ??? http://www.artonmytv.com/ Now the only down side is there is way too much to watch, of course in today's world it's mostly reality TV or reruns (some you might not have seen) Let us know how it worked out. Enjoy On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > ?I would love to have a large screen to watch movies from?netflix and > Hulu.? ( I never want to see the screen when I am not watching so I > would put it behind a large, vintage u.s map that would roll up to > expose?the screen. So I don't want any black boxes that would have to > sit on a table either ) > 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power and ethernet. > 2. I don't want cable tv > 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other services. > I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. > 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but would be > happy to just have a remote. > Any current technologies that would work for me? > Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > Diana > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -- Lots of online work, rizbang.com - ideas and history tnrglobal.com - Business greenfieldsfuture.org - local -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heller at deepsoft.com Tue Sep 29 16:59:45 2020 From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> <59f3cfb6-ac4a-1e71-6f74-c9931821ae11@montaguewebworks.com> Message-ID: <20200929165945.5EB05220689@sharky4.deepsoft.com> At Tue, 29 Sep 2020 11:04:10 -0400 Erik Jonsberg wrote: > > I noticed in your original post that you don??????t want any boxes and wires > cluttering your TV area. You can get a Roku enabled TV for cheap. Check out > Amazon or go to Target or Walmart. They have plenty of options. Or eBay. I just got a Roku enabled 24" LED TV for $117 w/free shipping. > > As far as connecting a browser, you can just connect your laptop to your TV > via HDMI. I do it all the time for gaming. Or just get a Raspberry Pi 3 for $35. (I have an [older] Pi 2 mounted on the back of my TV.) > > > > > On Sep 29, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > > > If you will be using your Chrome browser, you can buy a Chromecast device, which connects to the TV via HDMI and uses WiFi to connect your laptop's Chrome browser. You would choose the Chromecast as the device to display the video, or whatever, and the Cast will stream it to the TV. > > > > Roku's are inexpensive ... > > > > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=roku > > ... as are Chromecasts ... > > > > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=chromecast > > Mik > > > > --- > > Mik Muller, president > > Montague WebWorks > > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > > 413-320-5336 > > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > On 9/28/2020 4:43 PM, Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss wrote: > >> The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the PC in order to show the output on the TV screen. > >> > >> You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a PC screen on the TV. Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs without needing any other hardware. > >> > >> Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. > >> > >> Jan Werner > >> _______________ > >> > >> > >> On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: > >>> oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > wrote: > >>> > >>> Any TV you buy today is going to be ??????smart,?????? but I??????d recommend > >>> getting a > >>> Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of the smart > >>> TV operating systems. > >>> > >>> The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, which > >>> you said are the only two things you are interested in watching. If > >>> you > >>> get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote to > >>> turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at least > >>> one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. > >>> > >>> If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an > >>> on-screen > >>> keyboard on any phone or tablet. > >>> > >>> Jan Werner > >>> ____________ > >>> > >>> On 9/28/2020 10:44 AM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > >>> > The room is quite bright, and I was looking into a digital > >>> projector and > >>> > even purchased a huge window shade with that in mine. Since I > >>> have found > >>> > out that smart tv's come with their own browser I was turned off > >>> of that > >>> > idea as the home screen pretty much looks like a check-out screen > >>> for > >>> > purchasing stuff, which was experience with the roku about 7 > >>> years ago. > >>> > I found the roku frustrating because I didn't have a keyboard > >>> attached > >>> > to the thing. I have a wireless keyboard now, that might work. So > >>> the > >>> > current idea is just mirror my laptop ( through the HDMI cable?), > >>> which > >>> > I guess I found too cumbersome before, but maybe now it would be > >>> easier. > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM Alex at Just Peachy > >>> > >>> > >> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Seconding Mik's recommendation! > >>> > > >>> > If your laptop is a Macbook, we've also had good results with the > >>> > Apple TV, but it's a much higher price point than a Roku. > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM Michael Muller via > >>> Hidden-discuss > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> >> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Diana, > >>> > > >>> > Go buy the largest flat-screen TV you are willing to pay for, > >>> > making sure it's wall-mountable. Doesn't have to be a "smart > >>> > tv", just needs an HDMI cable input. > >>> > > >>> > Then go buy a Roku. > >>> > > >>> > Then subscribe to Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever. > >>> > > >>> > Then buy a fancy popcorn bowl. > >>> > > >>> > Mik > >>> > > >>> > --- > >>> > Mik Muller, president > >>> > Montague WebWorks > >>> > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > >>> > 413-320-5336 > >>> > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > >>> > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > >>> > > >>> > On 9/26/2020 7:31 PM, Diana Hardina via Hidden-discuss wrote: > >>> >> I would love to have a large screen to watch movies > >>> >> from netflix and Hulu. ( I never want to see the screen > >>> when > >>> >> I am not watching so I would put it behind a large, vintage > >>> >> u.s map that would roll up to expose the screen. So I don't > >>> >> want any black boxes that would have to sit on a table > >>> either ) > >>> >> 1. I want something all mounted, with maybe 2 cords ( power > >>> >> and ethernet. > >>> >> 2. I don't want cable tv > >>> >> 3. Is smart tv the answer? I don't want to buy any other > >>> services. > >>> >> I had a roku stick once and that was too cumbersome to use. > >>> >> 4. I have a laptop that I would like to control it with, but > >>> >> would be happy to just have a remote. > >>> >> Any current technologies that would work for me? > >>> >> Thanks to anyone who has got this going. > >>> >> Diana > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home > >>> page:http://www.hidden-tech.net > > >>> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >>> > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> >> You are receiving this because you are on the > >>> Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > >>> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > >>> the Members > >>> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >>> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > >>> > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > >>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net > >>> > > >>> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > >>> > Discussion list. > >>> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to > >>> the Members > >>> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: > >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net > >>> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >>> > >>> > > >>> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > >>> Discussion list. > >>> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > >>> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >> > >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services From dtkboomer at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 17:07:43 2020 From: dtkboomer at gmail.com (Dan Kirsch) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 13:07:43 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Spam Calls In-Reply-To: <50C7EDD9-EEA3-40BD-BFEC-1A594B2E106A@montaguewebworks.com> References: <50C7EDD9-EEA3-40BD-BFEC-1A594B2E106A@montaguewebworks.com> Message-ID: I got this same message yesterday and assumed it was phishing. Dan Kirsch Belchertown, MA dtkboomer at gmail.com 413.272.3205 On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mik Muller via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > As a follow-up to the thread from last week, I just got this from Verizon: > > Verizon Msg: Great news, we're now sending potential Fraud calls to > voicemail automatically. For extra protection, the iOS 14 update includes > Silence Junk Callers, a new feature that auto-blocks potential Spam calls > and sends them to your Recent calls & voicemail. 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URL: From shel at principledprofit.com Tue Sep 29 18:29:01 2020 From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 14:29:01 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Spam Calls In-Reply-To: <50C7EDD9-EEA3-40BD-BFEC-1A594B2E106A@montaguewebworks.com> References: <50C7EDD9-EEA3-40BD-BFEC-1A594B2E106A@montaguewebworks.com> Message-ID: Much as I like this idea, if their filtering is as poor as an email client's, it could be sending important mail to limbo. It would make sense to review the calls piling up in the junk every few weeks. But it's so getting out of hand. I've gotten 4 junk calls today already. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" ________________________________________________ Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame * Certified speaker: International Platform Association http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) Watch my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") _________________________________________________ On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:34 PM Mik Muller via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > As a follow-up to the thread from last week, I just got this from Verizon: > > Verizon Msg: Great news, we're now sending potential Fraud calls to > voicemail automatically. For extra protection, the iOS 14 update includes > Silence Junk Callers, a new feature that auto-blocks potential Spam calls > and sends them to your Recent calls & voicemail. For info & how to opt-out > m.vzw.com/CallFilterFAQ > > Mik > 413-320-5336 > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ed at edbride-pr.com Tue Sep 29 20:12:05 2020 From: ed at edbride-pr.com (ed at edbride-pr.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:12:05 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> Message-ID: <02c901d6969c$cdd21490$69763db0$@edbride-pr.com> I am thinking of using an old XP laptop as a platform for accessing internet content (including Netflix and that ilk) and displaying it on our large-screen TV. No HDMI connection, I guess I'd just use the RGB (ahem) connector to use the TV as an external monitor, yes? Not sure if Chromecast works on XP. Ed Bride -----Original Message----- From: Hidden-discuss On Behalf Of Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 4:43 PM To: Diana Hardina Cc: Hidden-Tech Listserv Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the PC in order to show the output on the TV screen. You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a PC screen on the TV. Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs without needing any other hardware. Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. Jan Werner _______________ On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: > oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > wrote: > > Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend > getting a > Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of the smart > TV operating systems. > > The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, which > you said are the only two things you are interested in watching. If > you > get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote to > turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at least > one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. > > If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an > on-screen > keyboard on any phone or tablet. > > Jan Werner > ____________ From jwerner at jwdp.com Wed Sep 30 03:44:58 2020 From: jwerner at jwdp.com (Jan Werner) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 23:44:58 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: <02c901d6969c$cdd21490$69763db0$@edbride-pr.com> References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> <02c901d6969c$cdd21490$69763db0$@edbride-pr.com> Message-ID: <08cf0547-8a72-1612-fe1e-2e12a282b1b9@jwdp.com> Chromecast requires Chrome and Google stopped supporting Chrome on Windows XP several years ago. If your laptop has a USB 3.0 port, you can get a USB 3 to HDMI dongle for less than $20 from Amazon, e.g: https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Graphics-Converter-Projector-Compatible/dp/B088B8CRM8 USB 2.0 won't support more than 800x600 resolution, which won't do you much good for Netflix or most internet content. Jan Werner ___________ On 9/29/2020 4:12 PM, ed--- via Hidden-discuss wrote: > I am thinking of using an old XP laptop as a platform for accessing internet content (including Netflix and that ilk) and displaying it on our large-screen TV. No HDMI connection, I guess I'd just use the RGB (ahem) connector to use the TV as an external monitor, yes? Not sure if Chromecast works on XP. > > Ed Bride > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hidden-discuss On Behalf Of Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 4:43 PM > To: Diana Hardina > Cc: Hidden-Tech Listserv > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? > > The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the PC in order to show the output on the TV screen. > > You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a PC screen on the TV. Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs without needing any other hardware. > > Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. > > Jan Werner > _______________ > > > On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: >> oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. >> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > > wrote: >> >> Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend >> getting a >> Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of the smart >> TV operating systems. >> >> The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, which >> you said are the only two things you are interested in watching. If >> you >> get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote to >> turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at least >> one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. >> >> If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an >> on-screen >> keyboard on any phone or tablet. >> >> Jan Werner >> ____________ > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > From tech at montaguewebworks.com Wed Sep 30 14:40:06 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 10:40:06 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Spam Calls In-Reply-To: References: <50C7EDD9-EEA3-40BD-BFEC-1A594B2E106A@montaguewebworks.com> Message-ID: Actually, it sends the calls to voicemail, not limbo. Setting "Silence Unknown Callers" to on, and using Verizon's new call-blocking technology has made my phone ring only for calls I need to answer. Well, one "Potential Spam" call got through yesterday, but didn't ring. Three on Monday with the same results, one of which was from Baystate, which I added to my phonebook, and one of which was from Phoenix AZ which left a long robo message in my voicemail... "/[female voice] ignoring this will be an intentional attempt to avoid initial appearances before the magistrate judge or exempt jury for a federal criminal offense to know more details press 1 and talk to an officer now//thank you//[male voice] hi this is dervis canada we have got an order to suspend your social insurance on an immediate basis cause your social has been found to have illegal and criminal activities it is very time sensitive to hear back from you before we proceed with suspension on your social and assets press 1 to speak to an officer press 1 thank you/" Priceless entertainment. Mik --- Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION On 9/29/2020 2:29 PM, Shel Horowitz wrote: > Much as I like this idea, if their filtering is as poor as an email > client's, it could be sending important mail to limbo. It would make > sense to review the calls piling up in the junk every few weeks. > > But it's so getting out of hand. I've gotten 4 junk calls today already. > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" > ________________________________________________ > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > * Certified speaker: International Platform Association > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com > 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. > Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World > (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > Watch my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > (move your mouse to "event videos") > _________________________________________________ > > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:34 PM Mik Muller via Hidden-discuss > > wrote: > > As a follow-up to the thread from last week, I just got this from > Verizon: > > Verizon Msg: Great news, we're now sending potential Fraud calls > to voicemail automatically. For extra protection, the iOS 14 > update includes Silence Junk Callers, a new feature that > auto-blocks potential Spam calls and sends them to your Recent > calls & voicemail. For info & how to opt-out > m.vzw.com/CallFilterFAQ > > Mik > 413-320-5336 > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s at smichel.me Wed Sep 30 14:57:14 2020 From: s at smichel.me (Stephen Michel) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 10:57:14 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: <08cf0547-8a72-1612-fe1e-2e12a282b1b9@jwdp.com> References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> <02c901d6969c$cdd21490$69763db0$@edbride-pr.com> <08cf0547-8a72-1612-fe1e-2e12a282b1b9@jwdp.com> Message-ID: I don't have any new suggestions, but I do have some factors you may want to consider when making a decision. - Functionality & Convenience ? Once it is set up, how well will it work for you? - Most of the thread has been focused on this so far: being able to watch netflix/hulu, not needing wifi or too many cords, etc. - Ease of setup ? Does it Just Work? or is some fiddling required first? - Price ? obviously - Privacy ? Many smart TVs will track what you're watching (even over hdmi cable) and sell this data, subsidizing the lower retail price. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/09/18/you-watch-tv-your-tv-watches-back/ - Stability & Support ? Internet-connected TVs may require [security] updates. How long will they keep coming for? Will the interface stay stable or will you have to re-learn it after an update? - The latter can be good or bad. Sometimes updates are improvements and with a dumb tv you'd be stuck with the same interface, no matter how bad; other times updates make things less usable on top of having to re-learn the new locations. - Flexibility & Customizability ? Netflix and hulu today, but what happens if there's a new streaming service you want to use next year? Will you be able to use it with your current setup or will you have to make big changes? (eg, a smart TV that never adds support for the new service might need to be used as a dumb tv, negating the benefit). Personally, I prioritize the last 3 factors and don't care much about ease of setup. In general, that leads me to prefer the "dumb"-est individual components I can find: I want my TV to show whatever it's plugged in to via HDMI and that's it. Then, as long as I can stream to my computer, I can plug it in to the TV and stream on the TV, too. But, I lose the convenience factor of being able to do it all from one remote; I need a remote to turn on the TV and then also a mouse+keyboard to control the computer. You'll also notice these considerations aren't unique to TV buying ? they apply to most all electronics ? and I similarly prefer dumb speakers, dumb lights, dumb refrigerators and dishwashers, etc; if I'm going to add smarts, I'd rather have a single smart thing like a raspberry pi controlling a bunch of dumb things. But those are just my priorities; yours are likely different and you'll have to decide for yourself :) -- I try to write short, functional emails. On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 23:44, Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Chromecast requires Chrome and Google stopped supporting Chrome on > Windows XP several years ago. > > If your laptop has a USB 3.0 port, you can get a USB 3 to HDMI dongle > for less than $20 from Amazon, e.g: > > https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Graphics-Converter-Projector-Compatible/dp/B088B8CRM8 > > USB 2.0 won't support more than 800x600 resolution, which won't do > you much good for Netflix or most internet content. > > Jan Werner > ___________ > > > On 9/29/2020 4:12 PM, ed--- via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> I am thinking of using an old XP laptop as a platform for accessing >> internet content (including Netflix and that ilk) and displaying it >> on our large-screen TV. No HDMI connection, I guess I'd just use the >> RGB (ahem) connector to use the TV as an external monitor, yes? Not >> sure if Chromecast works on XP. >> >> Ed Bride >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hidden-discuss >> On Behalf Of Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss >> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 4:43 PM >> To: Diana Hardina >> Cc: Hidden-Tech Listserv >> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on >> Netflix? >> >> The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the >> PC in order to show the output on the TV screen. >> >> You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port >> on your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which >> duplicates a PC screen on the TV. Most Windows 10 PCs and Android >> devices allow you to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and >> directly to many smart TVs without needing any other hardware. >> >> Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and >> Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. >> >> Jan Werner >> _______________ >> >> >> On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: >>> oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet >>> browser. >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner >> > wrote: >>> >>> Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d >>> recommend >>> getting a >>> Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of >>> the smart >>> TV operating systems. >>> >>> The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and >>> Hulu, which >>> you said are the only two things you are interested in >>> watching. If >>> you >>> get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku >>> remote to >>> turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that >>> at least >>> one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. >>> >>> If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an >>> on-screen >>> keyboard on any phone or tablet. >>> >>> Jan Werner >>> ____________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members From ed at edbride-pr.com Wed Sep 30 15:24:30 2020 From: ed at edbride-pr.com (ed at edbride-pr.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 11:24:30 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? In-Reply-To: <08cf0547-8a72-1612-fe1e-2e12a282b1b9@jwdp.com> References: <75f71807-ca2d-635d-b9b0-a262bc4bcedd@jwdp.com> <02c901d6969c$cdd21490$69763db0$@edbride-pr.com> <08cf0547-8a72-1612-fe1e-2e12a282b1b9@jwdp.com> Message-ID: <06fb01d6973d$cb6918b0$623b4a10$@edbride-pr.com> Thanks, Jan, It's a pretty old laptop, but I'll look into the specs to see what level of USB it supports. Failing there, it probably gets wiped and then off to Good Will (or Staples, which will probably give me $5 for it). Ed -----Original Message----- From: Jan Werner Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:45 PM To: ed at edbride-pr.com; hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? Chromecast requires Chrome and Google stopped supporting Chrome on Windows XP several years ago. If your laptop has a USB 3.0 port, you can get a USB 3 to HDMI dongle for less than $20 from Amazon, e.g: https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Graphics-Converter-Projector-Compatible/dp/B088B8CRM8 USB 2.0 won't support more than 800x600 resolution, which won't do you much good for Netflix or most internet content. Jan Werner ___________ On 9/29/2020 4:12 PM, ed--- via Hidden-discuss wrote: > I am thinking of using an old XP laptop as a platform for accessing internet content (including Netflix and that ilk) and displaying it on our large-screen TV. No HDMI connection, I guess I'd just use the RGB (ahem) connector to use the TV as an external monitor, yes? Not sure if Chromecast works on XP. > > Ed Bride > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hidden-discuss On > Behalf Of Jan Werner via Hidden-discuss > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 4:43 PM > To: Diana Hardina > Cc: Hidden-Tech Listserv > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] large screen for watching movies on Netflix? > > The Chrome browser resides on your PC so you need to run it on the PC in order to show the output on the TV screen. > > You can do that with a physical connection (connect the video port on your PC to a TV HDMI input) or via screen mirroring, which duplicates a PC screen on the TV. Most Windows 10 PCs and Android devices allow you to cast the screen over WiFi to a Roku and directly to many smart TVs without needing any other hardware. > > Macs and iOS devices usually require either an Apple TV device and Airplay, or a 3rd party app to cast the screen to a Roku or smart TV. > > Jan Werner > _______________ > > > On 9/28/2020 4:18 PM, Diana Hardina wrote: >> oh, one more thing. I would want to access my chrome internet browser. >> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:57 PM Jan Werner > > wrote: >> >> Any TV you buy today is going to be ?smart,? but I?d recommend >> getting a >> Roku too. In my experience Roku works far better than any of the smart >> TV operating systems. >> >> The Roku remote has dedicated buttons to launch Netflix and Hulu, which >> you said are the only two things you are interested in watching. If >> you >> get the Streaming Stick+ or Ultra, you can also use the Roku remote to >> turn the TV on and off and change volume. Just make sure that at least >> one HDMI port on your new TV supports ARC. >> >> If you really need a keyboard, the Roku mobile app provides an >> on-screen >> keyboard on any phone or tablet. >> >> Jan Werner >> ____________ > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > From yudkinyudkin at yahoo.com Wed Sep 30 18:18:53 2020 From: yudkinyudkin at yahoo.com (Marcia Yudkin) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hidden-tech] DirecTV scam References: <146812588.408318.1601489933463.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <146812588.408318.1601489933463@mail.yahoo.com> To anyone else who is a DirecTV subscriber, if you get a call saying that it's from AT&T (which owns DirecTV) and they are reprogramming the satellite in your area, it's a scam. I am normally a very savvy consumer, but these guys (there were two of them) wasted more than a half hour of my time before I realized it was really, really fishy. At first the guy said they had gotten a lot of complaints in my area and they therefore needed to reprogram our satellite receiver.? He asked me to turn the TV off so they could do the update, and it would take a few minutes.? Then he said, let me check your bill because I think we can give you a credit for the update.? (All this was going slowly and fitfully because he had an Indian accent that I was having trouble understanding... but the DirecTV technicians when you call in often have an Indian accent, so this didn't make me suspicious.)? He said I would get a $15 discount on my bill for 2 years.? Then he gave me a telephone number in the 512 areacode and an extension to call if I had any questions.? Then he transferred me to someone else who explained that there was a technical fee of $99 for the upgrade, but I would get a bill of $0 for two months to compensate for that.? I repeated that a few times to make sure I understood, and then he told me that he was going to give me an address to send the $99 to. "Whoa, whoa, whoa!" I said.? "I'm not sending any money anywhere.? You need to bill me through my DirecTV account." At that point I asked to get a phone number where I could call him back through AT&T, "because I think this is a scam." "Ma'am, I'm authorized to cut off your reception right now," he replied. "Please do!? I'm hanging up now..." Then I called DirecTV and confirmed that it was a scam.? I gave them all the info from the call, and they said they would investigate.? So what did I learn?? Next time I wouldn't even let the conversation get started.? I would ask right from the beginning for a way to verify that they were really calling me from a company that I did business with.? Thinking back, I don't believe they had my name or my account number - which they would if they were AT&T. The business of simultaneously charging a fee and also giving me a discount is something DirecTV actually does - it happened that way when we upgraded our service to get local channels a couple of months ago - so that was not a giveaway.? No legitimate company would call a customer and ask them to send a check for something the customer had not requested, so that was what finally clued me in. All this is presented as a public service! Marcia Yudkin Goshen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From heller at deepsoft.com Wed Sep 30 19:07:49 2020 From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Hidden-tech] DirecTV scam In-Reply-To: <146812588.408318.1601489933463@mail.yahoo.com> References: <146812588.408318.1601489933463.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <146812588.408318.1601489933463@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20200930190749.E2620224823@sharky4.deepsoft.com> At Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Marcia Yudkin wrote: > > To anyone else who is a DirecTV subscriber, if you get a call saying that it's from AT&T (which owns DirecTV) and they are reprogramming the satellite in your area, it's a scam. > I am normally a very savvy consumer, but these guys (there were two of them) wasted more than a half hour of my time before I realized it was really, really fishy. > > At first the guy said they had gotten a lot of complaints in my area and they therefore needed to reprogram our satellite receiver.???? He asked me to turn the TV off so they could do the update, and it would take a few minutes.???? Then he said, let me check your bill because I think we can give you a credit for the update.???? (All this was going slowly and fitfully because he had an Indian accent that I was having trouble understanding... but the DirecTV technicians when you call in often have an Indian accent, so this didn't make me suspicious.)???? He said I would get a $15 discount on my bill for 2 years.???? Then he gave me a telephone number in the 512 areacode and an extension to call if I had any questions.???? Then he transferred me to someone else who explained that there was a technical fee of $99 for the upgrade, but I would get a bill of $0 for two months to compensate for that.???? I repeated that a few times to make sure I understood, and then he told me that he wa s going to give me an address to send the $99 to. My guess is if there was a legit *technical problem* (eg misprogrammed receiver, etc.) like this, they would just do it without bothering to call and would not charge for it -- it would be a regular maintenance sort of thing -- eg a routine firmware update pushed from the satelite. The whole "we need you to turn off your TV" and talking about an extra charge sounds fishy. Quite asside from mailing a check somewhere "strange". > > "Whoa, whoa, whoa!" I said.???? "I'm not sending any money anywhere.???? You need to bill me through my DirecTV account." > > At that point I asked to get a phone number where I could call him back through AT&T, "because I think this is a scam." > "Ma'am, I'm authorized to cut off your reception right now," he replied. > > "Please do!???? I'm hanging up now..." > > Then I called DirecTV and confirmed that it was a scam.???? I gave them all the info from the call, and they said they would investigate.???? > > So what did I learn????? Next time I wouldn't even let the conversation get started.???? I would ask right from the beginning for a way to verify that they were really calling me from a company that I did business with.???? Thinking back, I don't believe they had my name or my account number - which they would if they were AT&T. > > The business of simultaneously charging a fee and also giving me a discount is something DirecTV actually does - it happened that way when we upgraded our service to get local channels a couple of months ago - so that was not a giveaway.???? No legitimate company would call a customer and ask them to send a check for something the customer had not requested, so that was what finally clued me in. > > All this is presented as a public service! > > Marcia Yudkin > Goshen > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services From rich at tnrglobal.com Wed Sep 30 20:27:14 2020 From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 16:27:14 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for technical people (Yes, this one is political) Message-ID: <753cb3d2-a7b3-40dd-b136-b50fc4d57b29@tnrglobal.com> SOFTWARE AND TECH PEOPLE - YOU ARE NEEDED ON THE ELECTORAL BATTLE LINES TO PROVIDE TECH SUPPOR .... The text banks and phone banks are finding that their scale (Capacity to take volunteers) is limited by the availability of tech support people. If you are not Democratic or don't have time - don't bother reading it https://www.facebook.com/100000612532178/posts/3732000373497010/ -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for Arts and relaxation: http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at yesexactly.com Wed Sep 30 20:50:45 2020 From: info at yesexactly.com (Tess Gadwa) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 13:50:45 -0700 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for technical people (Yes, this one is political) In-Reply-To: <753cb3d2-a7b3-40dd-b136-b50fc4d57b29@tnrglobal.com> References: <753cb3d2-a7b3-40dd-b136-b50fc4d57b29@tnrglobal.com> Message-ID: Can you share more about this organization? Are they affiliated with the Democratic Party? Specific candidates? Are they a third party PAC? I would like to broadcast this message and/or get involved, but I need more background. Warmly, Tess Gadwa -- Program Director Givingmap.org 971.412.9324 On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 1:29 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > SOFTWARE AND TECH PEOPLE - YOU ARE NEEDED ON THE ELECTORAL BATTLE LINES TO > PROVIDE TECH SUPPOR > .... > The text banks and phone banks are finding that their scale (Capacity to > take volunteers) is limited by the availability of tech support people. > > If you are not Democratic or don't have time - don't bother reading it > > https://www.facebook.com/100000612532178/posts/3732000373497010/ > > -- > Rich Roth > CEO TnR Global > > Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com > Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com > Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com > And for Arts and relaxation:http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck > http://www.welovemuseums.com > http://www.artonmytv.com/ > Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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