From frederick.clarkson at gmail.com Wed Feb 5 08:50:32 2020 From: frederick.clarkson at gmail.com (Frederick Clarkson) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 03:50:32 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] How do I copy a video off of You Tube? Message-ID: I am eager to do this because I am afraid it will be taken down soon... Thanks, Fred -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rdmurray at bitdance.com Wed Feb 5 14:40:58 2020 From: rdmurray at bitdance.com (R. David Murray) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2020 09:40:58 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] How do I copy a video off of You Tube? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20200205144058.BCE67B14002@webabinitio.net> On Wed, 05 Feb 2020 03:50:32 -0500, Frederick Clarkson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > I am eager to do this because I am afraid it will be taken down soon... The two tools I have used to do this most successfully are the firefox plugin "video downloadhelper" (http://www.downloadhelper.net) and (my favorite) the python script youtube-dl (https://youtube-dl.org/). --David From davidk at cs.umass.edu Wed Feb 5 13:45:18 2020 From: davidk at cs.umass.edu (David Korpiewski) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 08:45:18 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] How do I copy a video off of You Tube? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6bf93ec3-b25c-8b42-3258-2ba6c81aaa8d@cs.umass.edu> There are all kinds of free web sites for downloading videos a simple google search showed me the link i pasted below.? In the article the first option on this list of 6 free ways to do that is simply to go to the youtube URL, change the youtube URL to have"vd" in it (www.vdyoutube.com), and then the page shows up with tons of formats for downloading the video. (read the article) Now that said, anything that is copyright would fall under copyright laws so be careful how you use it. https://www.wikihow.com/Download-YouTube-Videos Enjoy David On 2/5/2020 3:50 AM, Frederick Clarkson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > I am eager to do this because I am afraid it will be taken down soon... > > Thanks, > Fred > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -- -- ============================================ David Korpiewski Senior Software Specialist I CICS - UMASS Amherst 413-545-4319 ============================================ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomadams at gmail.com Wed Feb 5 14:25:09 2020 From: tomadams at gmail.com (tom's gmail) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 09:25:09 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] How do I copy a video off of You Tube? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, it?s illegal to do that but you could use a number of different software programs such as ?Alltube video downloader? Regards, Tom Adams, Director/Owner www.ReelifeProductions.com http://Folktography.zenfolio.com ? Cool Media Production...Not Boring or Dumb ? Media that Educates, Entertains & Enlightens... since 1996 (From the road / my virtual office/iPhone 413.575.9707) >> On Feb 5, 2020, at 8:30 AM, Frederick Clarkson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > ? > I am eager to do this because I am afraid it will be taken down soon... > > Thanks, > Fred > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From debchandler411 at gmail.com Tue Feb 11 19:21:46 2020 From: debchandler411 at gmail.com (Deborah Chandler) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 14:21:46 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * HELP! Need to deal with "akamaihd" malware issue * * * Message-ID: Hi folks, When on my MacBook Pro yesterday afternoon (running OS Mojave, 10.14.6) and using Google Chrome, my previous Setting loading DuckDuckGo when I open a new tab was over-ridden without my doing; it went to a blank page, and when I entered search text, the search result showed as using the Yahoo search engine. This caught my attention, so I went to my settings, and it would not let me choose DuckDuckGo again, and it would not let me delete "http://default01088758-a.akamaihd.net" (I can send you the screen capture of this, but I won't attach it here, per HT rules on sending large files). I am still researching this, but does anyone know the best way to get rid of this akamaihd malware? I found this, which is a start: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250978876 I already "Reset Settings" as Chrome's Tech Support suggested, but it didn't fix the problem. According to that Apple discussion, Chrome seems resistant to a fix. (And am I right that just simply switching browsers is not a sufficient fix?) A friend suggested using this process, but darn it, I don't know this site, so am hesitant to trust it: https://macsecurity.net/view/51-rvzr-aakamaihdnet-popup-virus-removal-for-mac Not knowing what caused this problem, and what to do to prevent it again, I am feeling like I need someone more knowledgable to guide a solution here. I had a recent issue with a "Preference Helper" showing up, and I can share more on that, and I have a screen capture of that issue, too. Now, it seems possibly related. If someone can help with this, I would appreciate it. This is the first time I have dealt with malware since owning this laptop; I think my luck has run out. Thanks, Deb From kiernan at greenearthpc.us Tue Feb 11 21:20:14 2020 From: kiernan at greenearthpc.us (Kiernan Gulick-Sherrill) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 16:20:14 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * HELP! Need to deal with "akamaihd" malware issue * * * In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Deborah, If you want to try and handle this yourself Malwarebytes for Mac is one of the best free antimalware tools on the market. https://www.malwarebytes.com/mac/ I would also absolutely recommend running some variety of antivirus on the mac in general (free is fine, AVG and Sophos both make good solid AV for mac that is free). If you are looking for a tech to clean up the machine for you and make further recommendations for keeping safe in the future we would be happy to assist you with repair. Thanks! Kiernan Gulick-Sherrill Pronouns: He/Him Green Earth Computers - Computer & Smartphone Repair 20A Crafts Ave Northampton, MA 01060 www.greenearthpc.us 413-282-8324 See what people are saying -- Check us out on Yelp! On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 3:54 PM Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hi folks, > > When on my MacBook Pro yesterday afternoon (running OS Mojave, > 10.14.6) and using Google Chrome, my previous Setting loading > DuckDuckGo when I open a new tab was over-ridden without my doing; it > went to a blank page, and when I entered search text, the search > result showed as using the Yahoo search engine. This caught my > attention, so I went to my settings, and it would not let me choose > DuckDuckGo again, and it would not let me delete > "http://default01088758-a.akamaihd.net" (I can send you the screen > capture of this, but I won't attach it here, per HT rules on sending > large files). > > I am still researching this, but does anyone know the best way to get > rid of this akamaihd malware? > > I found this, which is a start: > https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250978876 I already "Reset > Settings" as Chrome's Tech Support suggested, but it didn't fix the > problem. According to that Apple discussion, Chrome seems resistant to > a fix. (And am I right that just simply switching browsers is not a > sufficient fix?) > > A friend suggested using this process, but darn it, I don't know this > site, so am hesitant to trust it: > > https://macsecurity.net/view/51-rvzr-aakamaihdnet-popup-virus-removal-for-mac > > Not knowing what caused this problem, and what to do to prevent it > again, I am feeling like I need someone more knowledgable to guide a > solution here. > > I had a recent issue with a "Preference Helper" showing up, and I can > share more on that, and I have a screen capture of that issue, too. > Now, it seems possibly related. > > If someone can help with this, I would appreciate it. This is the > first time I have dealt with malware since owning this laptop; I think > my luck has run out. > > Thanks, > Deb > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joan-long at comcast.net Wed Feb 12 14:09:01 2020 From: joan-long at comcast.net (Joan Long) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 09:09:01 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Trademarks Message-ID: <8FDF0FE4-2D20-4E0F-9823-B84E13575204@comcast.net> Hi HT, What is your experience with trademark lawyers? Specifically using a trademark attorney vs. going on a website that does it for you. Such as LegalZoom or something similar). I would assume a knowledgeable attorney would be the better choice, I?m just wondering for a cost comparison. It?s something that I?ve created as a logo/future brand. Thank you in advance! Joan Long Essential Office Services @essentialjl From fred at smallbatchbooks.com Wed Feb 12 16:30:32 2020 From: fred at smallbatchbooks.com (Fred Levine) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:30:32 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Trademarks In-Reply-To: <8FDF0FE4-2D20-4E0F-9823-B84E13575204@comcast.net> References: <8FDF0FE4-2D20-4E0F-9823-B84E13575204@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9EB1A8CE-7D46-4184-84A7-2C2FBA2A0A34@smallbatchbooks.com> We registered our trade mark ourselves on the USPTO website and subsequently submitted renewal forms at 5 years and just recently at 10 years. It's not difficult if you're good at following directions and work your way slowly through their forms. We only had to bring in an attorney when they challenged the legitimacy of the trademark. (We won.) I suggest saving the money and doing it yourself. Fred Levine SMALL BATCH BOOKS 493 S. Pleasant St. Amherst, MA 01002 413.230.3943 ?On 2/12/20, 10:24 AM, "Hidden-discuss on behalf of Joan Long via Hidden-discuss" wrote: Hi HT, What is your experience with trademark lawyers? Specifically using a trademark attorney vs. going on a website that does it for you. Such as LegalZoom or something similar). I would assume a knowledgeable attorney would be the better choice, I?m just wondering for a cost comparison. It?s something that I?ve created as a logo/future brand. Thank you in advance! Joan Long Essential Office Services @essentialjl _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members From greg at gregcaulton.com Wed Feb 12 19:24:49 2020 From: greg at gregcaulton.com (Greg Caulton) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 14:24:49 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Trademarks In-Reply-To: <8FDF0FE4-2D20-4E0F-9823-B84E13575204@comcast.net> References: <8FDF0FE4-2D20-4E0F-9823-B84E13575204@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0119692C-8346-4A0B-9566-F4DC3340BD63@gregcaulton.com> You can also go to https://www.nolo.com/search?query=trademark diy book. Greg :-)= ______________________ Greg Caulton Creative Director, Patent Draftsman www.gregcaulton.com 233 West Pelham Road Shutesbury, MA 01072 Phone: 413-461-7096 > On Feb 12, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Joan Long via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Hi HT, > What is your experience with trademark lawyers? Specifically using a trademark attorney vs. going on a website that does it for you. Such as LegalZoom or something similar). I would assume a knowledgeable attorney would be the better choice, I?m just wondering for a cost comparison. > It?s something that I?ve created as a logo/future brand. > > Thank you in advance! > > > Joan Long > Essential Office Services > @essentialjl > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DDelVecchio at suite3.com Thu Feb 13 17:17:58 2020 From: DDelVecchio at suite3.com (Dave DelVecchio) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 17:17:58 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Trademarks In-Reply-To: <8FDF0FE4-2D20-4E0F-9823-B84E13575204@comcast.net> References: <8FDF0FE4-2D20-4E0F-9823-B84E13575204@comcast.net> Message-ID: We worked with Grogan, Tuccillo, Vanderleeden in Springfield for trademark registrations - definitely worth a conversation for you to explore working with local experts: http://www.gtv-ip.com Dave Dave DelVecchio President Suite3 www.suite3.com ?On 2/12/20, 10:23 AM, "Hidden-discuss on behalf of Joan Long via Hidden-discuss" wrote: Hi HT, What is your experience with trademark lawyers? Specifically using a trademark attorney vs. going on a website that does it for you. Such as LegalZoom or something similar). I would assume a knowledgeable attorney would be the better choice, I?m just wondering for a cost comparison. It?s something that I?ve created as a logo/future brand. Thank you in advance! Joan Long Essential Office Services @essentialjl _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members Disclaimer: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Recipient should check his e-mail and attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. From stevenkgold at gmail.com Thu Feb 13 18:58:54 2020 From: stevenkgold at gmail.com (Steven K. Gold) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:58:54 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Trademarks In-Reply-To: <8FDF0FE4-2D20-4E0F-9823-B84E13575204@comcast.net> References: <8FDF0FE4-2D20-4E0F-9823-B84E13575204@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi Joan, We have extensive experience working with intellectual property attorneys throughout the country, including for patent prosecution, trademarks, licensing and litigation. Trademarks seem simple on the surface, however they are a tricky area of the law. In practice, this may not matter for many small businesses who are unlikely to need to defend their IP, however if your trademark is truly important, then your hunch is correct. You will want to secure the services of an attorney who specializes in trademarks. Although there are many excellent trademark attorneys in the commonwealth, one attorney (and small firm) that I've had consistently excellent experiences with is Brenda Ulrich of Archstone Law Group: https://www.archstonelaw.com/attorneys/brenda-ulrich/ (I have no vested interest and only know Brenda from her work; met her once.) Cost will be higher, of course, however the cost of a mistake means possibly losing all the rights you've invested in. Also, talk with an attorney, but you may not even need a registered trademark at all. Steve On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:23 AM Joan Long via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hi HT, > What is your experience with trademark lawyers? Specifically using a > trademark attorney vs. going on a website that does it for you. Such as > LegalZoom or something similar). I would assume a knowledgeable attorney > would be the better choice, I?m just wondering for a cost comparison. > It?s something that I?ve created as a logo/future brand. > > Thank you in advance! > > > Joan Long > Essential Office Services > @essentialjl > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pleasant St. > Amherst, MA 01002 > 413.230.3943 > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmaterialized at gmail.com Fri Feb 21 00:34:32 2020 From: dmaterialized at gmail.com (DM Cook) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:34:32 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help In-Reply-To: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> References: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> Message-ID: I would suggest literally anywhere other than YES computers, and there are a great many people in the area whose experience mirrors my own. YES simply is neither a trustworthy nor knowledgeable team, sorry to say. Leftclick is a great place to start, and there are some places around Amherst that I?ve heard good things about. I?m a former NYC Apple Genius who may be able to help as well, if you prefer onsite help. On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:53 PM JACQUELINE SHERIDAN via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Left click gets my vote! > And Yes computers. > > On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > ? > > Hi All, > > > > I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person for > my iMac. > > > > Thanks, > > Fred > > > > > > Fred Levine > > Small Batch Books > > 493 S. Pleasant St. > > > Amherst, MA 01002 > > > 413.230.3943 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -- DM Cook Instructional Designer & Technical Writer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shel at principledprofit.com Fri Feb 21 00:40:21 2020 From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 19:40:21 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help In-Reply-To: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> References: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> Message-ID: Green Earth PC, Crafts Avenue in Northampton. Kieran, the owner, is a member of this list. On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 6:48 PM JACQUELINE SHERIDAN via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Left click gets my vote! > And Yes computers. > > On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > ? > > Hi All, > > > > I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person for > my iMac. > > > > Thanks, > > Fred > > > > > > Fred Levine > > Small Batch Books > > 493 S. Pleasant St. > > Amherst, MA 01002 > > 413.230.3943 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adam at dharmaboutique.com Fri Feb 21 14:03:16 2020 From: adam at dharmaboutique.com (Adam Bauer) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 09:03:16 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help In-Reply-To: References: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> Message-ID: <0DB7D29B-F69B-496B-A830-8FD518CFD530@dharmaboutique.com> Funny, I?ve had the opposite experience. I won?t go into the sordid details, but I will NEVER tell anyone I like to work with Left-Click, ever again. Disastrous experience followed up by a customer-losing response when asked to help resolve the mess. Yes has always done fine by me, though it?s been years since they?ve done any real heavy lifting. Kieran and Greg on his team have totally done me solid in recent years. Good luck! > On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:34 PM, DM Cook via Hidden-discuss > wrote: > > I would suggest literally anywhere other than YES computers, and there are a great many people in the area whose experience mirrors my own. YES simply is neither a trustworthy nor knowledgeable team, sorry to say. > > Leftclick is a great place to start, and there are some places around Amherst that I?ve heard good things about. I?m a former NYC Apple Genius who may be able to help as well, if you prefer onsite help. > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:53 PM JACQUELINE SHERIDAN via Hidden-discuss > wrote: > Left click gets my vote! > And Yes computers. > >> On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >> >> ? > >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person for my iMac. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Fred >> >> >> >> >> >> Fred Levine >> >> Small Batch Books >> >> 493 S. Pleasant St. >> Amherst, MA 01002 >> 413.230.3943 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -- > > DM Cook > Instructional Designer & Technical Writer > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ellenaugarten at gmail.com Fri Feb 21 14:10:53 2020 From: ellenaugarten at gmail.com (Ellen Augarten) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 09:10:53 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help In-Reply-To: References: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> Message-ID: Chris at Ink and Toner Solutions in Northampton, on the corner of Main and Strong Ave. On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:16 PM DM Cook via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I would suggest literally anywhere other than YES computers, and there are > a great many people in the area whose experience mirrors my own. YES simply > is neither a trustworthy nor knowledgeable team, sorry to say. > > Leftclick is a great place to start, and there are some places around > Amherst that I?ve heard good things about. I?m a former NYC Apple Genius > who may be able to help as well, if you prefer onsite help. > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:53 PM JACQUELINE SHERIDAN via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Left click gets my vote! >> And Yes computers. >> >> On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss < >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person >> for my iMac. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Fred >> >> >> >> >> >> Fred Levine >> >> Small Batch Books >> >> 493 S. Pleasant St. >> >> >> Amherst, MA 01002 >> >> >> 413.230.3943 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > -- > > DM Cook > Instructional Designer & Technical Writer > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -- *ellenaugartenphotography.com* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've heard a lot of great things about Green Earth Computing in Northampton, and they get much higher online reviews than YES. *Christine Dutton* *Dutton Consulting * *413-626-6377* *Find me on Facebook here! * On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:49 AM Adam Bauer via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Funny, I?ve had the opposite experience. I won?t go into the sordid > details, but I will NEVER tell anyone I like to work with Left-Click, ever > again. Disastrous experience followed up by a customer-losing response when > asked to help resolve the mess. > > Yes has always done fine by me, though it?s been years since they?ve done > any real heavy lifting. > > Kieran and Greg on his team have totally done me solid in recent years. > > Good luck! > > On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:34 PM, DM Cook via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > I would suggest literally anywhere other than YES computers, and there are > a great many people in the area whose experience mirrors my own. YES simply > is neither a trustworthy nor knowledgeable team, sorry to say. > > Leftclick is a great place to start, and there are some places around > Amherst that I?ve heard good things about. I?m a former NYC Apple Genius > who may be able to help as well, if you prefer onsite help. > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:53 PM JACQUELINE SHERIDAN via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Left click gets my vote! >> And Yes computers. >> >> On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss < >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person >> for my iMac. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Fred >> >> >> >> >> >> Fred Levine >> >> Small Batch Books >> >> 493 S. Pleasant St. >> >> >> Amherst, MA 01002 >> >> >> 413.230.3943 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > -- > > DM Cook > Instructional Designer & Technical Writer > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snmerz at gmail.com Fri Feb 21 15:09:54 2020 From: snmerz at gmail.com (Sabine Merz) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:09:54 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help - In-Reply-To: References: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> Message-ID: <2F14E99A-ADEE-42E0-B1CE-53D6F557BC6A@gmail.com> Dear Fred, I would suggest Yes Computers . It?s a great place. They know what they?re doing and have helped out a lot of people. Expertise matters when your iMac needs some TLC. All my best, Sabine Merz Northampton > On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:34 PM, DM Cook via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > I would suggest literally anywhere other than YES computers, and there are a great many people in the area whose experience mirrors my own. YES simply is neither a trustworthy nor knowledgeable team, sorry to say. > > Leftclick is a great place to start, and there are some places around Amherst that I?ve heard good things about. I?m a former NYC Apple Genius who may be able to help as well, if you prefer onsite help. > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:53 PM JACQUELINE SHERIDAN via Hidden-discuss > wrote: > Left click gets my vote! > And Yes computers. > >> On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >> >> ? > >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person for my iMac. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Fred >> >> >> >> >> >> Fred Levine >> >> Small Batch Books >> >> 493 S. Pleasant St. >> Amherst, MA 01002 >> 413.230.3943 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -- > > DM Cook > Instructional Designer & Technical Writer > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blade at blade-logic.com Fri Feb 21 15:34:19 2020 From: blade at blade-logic.com (Greg Howe) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:34:19 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help In-Reply-To: References: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> <0DB7D29B-F69B-496B-A830-8FD518CFD530@dharmaboutique.com> Message-ID: One more vote for Green Earth. They have been wonderful every time I have worked with them. *Greg Howe* President & CEO 413.213.6642 blade at blade-logic.com www.blade-logic.com On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:27 AM Christine Dutton via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I only work with YES when in warranty, because of their turnaround time. > Also, they can seem impatient and bored with it all. ... > I like Laptop Repair when not in warranty (Greenfield). > Their shop is a little crusty around the edges, but they've done good by > me. > I've heard a lot of great things about Green Earth Computing in > Northampton, and they get much higher online reviews than YES. > *Christine Dutton* > *Dutton Consulting * > *413-626-6377* > *Find me on Facebook here! * > > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:49 AM Adam Bauer via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Funny, I?ve had the opposite experience. I won?t go into the sordid >> details, but I will NEVER tell anyone I like to work with Left-Click, ever >> again. Disastrous experience followed up by a customer-losing response when >> asked to help resolve the mess. >> >> Yes has always done fine by me, though it?s been years since they?ve done >> any real heavy lifting. >> >> Kieran and Greg on his team have totally done me solid in recent years. >> >> Good luck! >> >> On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:34 PM, DM Cook via Hidden-discuss < >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >> I would suggest literally anywhere other than YES computers, and there >> are a great many people in the area whose experience mirrors my own. YES >> simply is neither a trustworthy nor knowledgeable team, sorry to say. >> >> Leftclick is a great place to start, and there are some places around >> Amherst that I?ve heard good things about. I?m a former NYC Apple Genius >> who may be able to help as well, if you prefer onsite help. >> >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:53 PM JACQUELINE SHERIDAN via Hidden-discuss < >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >>> Left click gets my vote! >>> And Yes computers. >>> >>> On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss < >>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> >>> >>> I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person >>> for my iMac. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Fred >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Fred Levine >>> >>> Small Batch Books >>> >>> 493 S. Pleasant St. >>> >>> >>> Amherst, MA 01002 >>> >>> >>> 413.230.3943 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >> -- >> >> DM Cook >> Instructional Designer & Technical Writer >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahalink at comcast.net Fri Feb 21 15:42:01 2020 From: ahalink at comcast.net (Alan Hurwitz) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:42:01 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help In-Reply-To: <1582242383533.764530707@boxbe> References: <1582242383533.764530707@boxbe> Message-ID: <16BF338D-758F-4A06-AD37-481F4009E8A9@comcast.net> Hi everyone! I?m glad to have something to contribute to this erudite group. I may be the only one, but I have generally found it worthwhile to make the schlep to The Apple Store in Holyoke for repairs when necessary. (I live in Amherst.) They seem to have the resources to help with most issues, and even seem more merciful about cost - those corporate deep pockets. Also, I just sent my laptop to Memphis for a new keyboard. It was back in two days. If you do that, be sure and back up fully. They erased the hard drive for doing the diagnosis they apparently automatically do. Yes used to be really terrific, but they seem less enthusiastic lately. I wonder if they changed ownership. Good luck! Alan > On Feb 20, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net) Add cleanup rule | More info > Hi All, > > I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person for my iMac. > > Thanks, > Fred > > > Fred Levine > Small Batch Books > 493 S. Pleasant St. > Amherst, MA 01002 > 413.230.3943 > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members From debchandler411 at gmail.com Fri Feb 21 15:47:59 2020 From: debchandler411 at gmail.com (Deborah Chandler) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:47:59 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help In-Reply-To: <222A111E-33BF-450B-9D34-180E1F33BB37@smallbatchbooks.com> References: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> <222A111E-33BF-450B-9D34-180E1F33BB37@smallbatchbooks.com> Message-ID: Fred, Last time Yes had a computer of mine and couldn't manage to get any data off a crashed harddrive, they expected me to pay their $69. (I think it was) intake fee anyway. I paid it. Then, I brought the computer over to Core Solutions Group and they were able to retrieve about 95% of my data, and charged me a very reasonable fee. I went back to Yes, and asked Mark for my money back, and told him Core succeeded in doing the work. Mark started to refuse, and was so completely unethical in what he said to me then, but I told him I wasn't leaving until I got my money back. After about an hour, he handed me a check. I have not stepped foot in his shop ever since. And that was back when he was still on Main Street. Best to you, Deb On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 10:27 AM Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Yes has had it for a week and can?t figure out what?s wrong. > > > > > > > > Fred Levine > > Small Batch Books > > 493 S. Pleasant St. > > Amherst, MA 01002 > > 413.230.3943 > > > > [image: signature_14293741] > > > > *From: *JACQUELINE SHERIDAN > *Date: *Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 6:48 PM > *To: *Fred Levine > *Cc: * > *Subject: *Re: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help > > > > Left click gets my vote! > > And Yes computers. > > > > On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > ? > > Hi All, > > > > I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person for > my iMac. > > > > Thanks, > > Fred > > > > > > Fred Levine > > Small Batch Books > > 493 S. Pleasant St. > > Amherst, MA 01002 > > 413.230.3943 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Fred Levine Small Batch Books 493 S. Pleasant St. Amherst, MA 01002 413.230.3943 From: Deborah Chandler Date: Friday, February 21, 2020 at 10:48 AM To: Fred Levine Cc: Hidden-Tech Tech Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help Fred, Last time Yes had a computer of mine and couldn't manage to get any data off a crashed harddrive, they expected me to pay their $69. (I think it was) intake fee anyway. I paid it. Then, I brought the computer over to Core Solutions Group and they were able to retrieve about 95% of my data, and charged me a very reasonable fee. I went back to Yes, and asked Mark for my money back, and told him Core succeeded in doing the work. Mark started to refuse, and was so completely unethical in what he said to me then, but I told him I wasn't leaving until I got my money back. After about an hour, he handed me a check. I have not stepped foot in his shop ever since. And that was back when he was still on Main Street. Best to you, Deb On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 10:27 AM Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss wrote: Yes has had it for a week and can?t figure out what?s wrong. Fred Levine Small Batch Books 493 S. Pleasant St. Amherst, MA 01002 413.230.3943 From: JACQUELINE SHERIDAN Date: Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 6:48 PM To: Fred Levine Cc: Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help Left click gets my vote! And Yes computers. On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss wrote: ? Hi All, I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person for my iMac. Thanks, Fred Fred Levine Small Batch Books 493 S. Pleasant St. Amherst, MA 01002 413.230.3943 _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. 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URL: From izzygesell at yahoo.com Fri Feb 21 16:04:43 2020 From: izzygesell at yahoo.com (Izzy G) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 16:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help In-Reply-To: References: <9D368663-62B9-4BD1-A948-30BD0573163F@icloud.com> <0DB7D29B-F69B-496B-A830-8FD518CFD530@dharmaboutique.com> Message-ID: <562498178.525046.1582301083165@mail.yahoo.com> Though not a mac user, I'm on? the "Green Earth Computer" bandwagon because of their customer service, diagnostic & problem solving ability and "buy local" experience. ?Izzy Gesell, M.ED, CSP (Certified SpeakingProfessional)Organization Alchemist, Humorologist,Facilitator, Keynoter, Author New on LinkedIn Learning- Purchase individual courses.?? My courses:"Leading with Applied Improv":?http://bit.ly/2PkuKPk"Humor in the? Workplace"-?http://bit.ly/2ZzQhDt"Building Your Team"-?http://bit.ly/345JsNp? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Free one month trial for ALL 13,000? LI course also available: https://linkedin-learning.pxf.io/n6k29 "This contains affiliate links and I will be compensated if you make a purchase after clicking on my links" On Friday, February 21, 2020, 10:27:26 AM EST, Christine Dutton via Hidden-discuss wrote: I only work?with YES when in warranty, because of their turnaround time.Also, they can seem impatient and bored with it all. ...I like Laptop Repair when not in warranty (Greenfield).?Their shop is a little crusty around the edges, but they've done good by me.?I've heard a lot of great things about Green Earth Computing in Northampton, and they get much higher online reviews than YES.? Christine DuttonDutton Consulting?413-626-6377Find me on Facebook here!? On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:49 AM Adam Bauer via Hidden-discuss wrote: Funny, I?ve had the opposite experience. I won?t go into the sordid details, but I will NEVER tell anyone I like to work with Left-Click, ever again. Disastrous experience followed up by a customer-losing response when asked to help resolve the mess. Yes has always done fine by me, though it?s been years since they?ve done any real heavy lifting. Kieran and Greg on his team have totally done me solid in recent years. Good luck! On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:34 PM, DM Cook via Hidden-discuss wrote: I would suggest literally anywhere other than YES computers, and there are a great many people in the area whose experience mirrors my own. YES simply is neither a trustworthy nor knowledgeable team, sorry to say.? Leftclick is a great place to start, and there are some places around Amherst that I?ve heard good things about. I?m a former NYC Apple Genius who may be able to help as well, if you prefer onsite help.? On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:53 PM JACQUELINE SHERIDAN via Hidden-discuss wrote: Left click gets my vote!?And Yes computers.? On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss wrote: ? Hi All, ? I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person for my iMac. ? Thanks, Fred ? ? Fred Levine Small Batch Books 493 S. Pleasant St. Amherst, MA 01002 413.230.3943 ? ? _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. 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Greg :-)= ______________________ Greg Caulton Creative Director, Patent Draftsman www.gregcaulton.com 233 West Pelham Road Shutesbury, MA 01072 Phone: 413-461-7096 > On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Yes now charges $79 to take a look, and they won?t refund for not being able to diagnose it. > > I used to take everything to the Apple Store, then I stopped after I brought in my daughter?s laptop and they wanted $600 for a new logic board, or whatever, I took it down the street to Dancer, and he fixed it for $50. What a huge loss that he?s no longer around! > > Fred Levine > Small Batch Books > 493 S. Pleasant St. > Amherst, MA 01002 > 413.230.3943 > > > > From: Deborah Chandler > Date: Friday, February 21, 2020 at 10:48 AM > To: Fred Levine > Cc: Hidden-Tech Tech > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help > > Fred, > > Last time Yes had a computer of mine and couldn't manage to get any data off a crashed harddrive, they expected me to pay their $69. (I think it was) intake fee anyway. > I paid it. > > Then, I brought the computer over to Core Solutions Group and they were able to retrieve about 95% of my data, and charged me a very reasonable fee. > > I went back to Yes, and asked Mark for my money back, and told him Core succeeded in doing the work. Mark started to refuse, and was so completely unethical in what he said to me then, but I told him I wasn't leaving until I got my money back. After about an hour, he handed me a check. I have not stepped foot in his shop ever since. And that was back when he was still on Main Street. > > Best to you, > Deb > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 10:27 AM Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >> Yes has had it for a week and can?t figure out what?s wrong. >> >> >> >> Fred Levine >> Small Batch Books >> 493 S. Pleasant St. >> Amherst, MA 01002 >> 413.230.3943 >> >> >> >> From: JACQUELINE SHERIDAN > >> Date: Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 6:48 PM >> To: Fred Levine > >> Cc: > >> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Mac Help >> >> Left click gets my vote! >> And Yes computers. >> >> >>> On Feb 20, 2020, at 18:38, Fred Levine via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I?m sure it?s been asked before, but I need an excellent repair person for my iMac. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Fred >>> >>> >>> Fred Levine >>> Small Batch Books >>> 493 S. Pleasant St. >>> Amherst, MA 01002 >>> 413.230.3943 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jm-hiddentech at vj8.net Fri Feb 21 17:17:45 2020 From: jm-hiddentech at vj8.net (James Triplett) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 17:17:45 -0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] How to remain connected when traveling to Europe In-Reply-To: <008101d3b40e$42ccdba0$c86692e0$@readingsuccesslab.com> References: <005001d3b3ff$60389670$20a9c350$@readingsuccesslab.com> <5a3b5f05-7a22-0c4f-4d7c-be48179f997b@hidden-tech.net> <008101d3b40e$42ccdba0$c86692e0$@readingsuccesslab.com> Message-ID: <20180306174310.GA30377@bermuda.datamat.net> On (04/03/18 18:12), Jeremy Wise wrote: > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 18:12:21 -0500 > From: Jeremy Wise > To: 'Rich Roth' , 'Hidden-Tech Tech' > > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] How to remain connected when traveling to Europe > Reply-To: jeremywise at readingsuccesslab.com > > Thanks to everyone for their helpful suggestions! > > > > I use Verizon Wireless and they have a plan similar to what people have > described for ATT, T-Moble etc, tho getting that info wasn't easy. Aha! That's an important distinction. Besides the pricing and plan issues, there's a technical issue. Most of the plans mentioned in this thread are on carriers that use the GSM cellular system, which is ubiquitous in Europe. Verizon uses the CDMA cellular system, which is primarily available only in the US. In the popular tourist spots of Europe (London, Amsterdam, Berlin), some CDMA systems have been installed- so there is some access for a roaming Verizon phone, but it won't be as complete coverage as GSM. In the US, there are 4 carriers and 2 systems: AT&T GSM T-Mobile GSM Sprint CDMA Verison CDMA In Europe (and Asia except for Japan), all the different carriers use the GSM underlying system. And we're just talking about talking. The whole area of data services- 2G, 3G, 4G, 4G-LTE, etc, etc, gets even more twisted. So whatever plan you choose, ask carefully about the coverage map and what data services are included. Good luck! James > > > > Many thanks, Jeremy Wise > > > > From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net > [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Rich Roth > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 6:05 PM > To: jeremywise at readingsuccesslab.com; Hidden-Tech Tech > > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] How to remain connected when traveling to Europe > > > > We've done a fair bit of traveling in the last few years. > > Our phones are on t-mobile and we just have to activate international > service, no extra charge on our plan. > > For ipads, we use AT&T and they have a monthly international service on the > pay as you go option, > I think it was $30/month -- although warning their north america is really > USA - does NOT include Canada, no idea about Mexico. > > As for as hotel access, now a days, most hotels everywhere provide free or From tech at montaguewebworks.com Sun Feb 23 14:48:50 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 09:48:50 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Trademark advice Message-ID: <11dcee94-4f10-cc2e-bd99-4608cf0fcd81@montaguewebworks.com> Hey all, I'm looking to see if I can use the term "soapbox derby" for some upcoming events, and am a little confused by my search results. Using the US Patent and Trademark Office website, I find no results for that exact phrase: * http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1 But on another USPTO page, I do find a hit: * https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch And, using other websites, I find all kinds of hits and misses: * https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search * https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60 * https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/ What's the best way to make sure, and what's your experience with searching and filing trademarks? Thanks, Mik -- Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stacy at swampdancer.com Sun Feb 23 19:23:30 2020 From: stacy at swampdancer.com (Stacy Kontrabecki) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 14:23:30 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] deleting Mac OS Photos librarydeleting Mac OS Photos library Message-ID: I download all of my photos to the Pictures directory on my Mac with OS Sierra installed. I do not manage my photos using the Photos app but opened it once to see if I might like to. I'm thinking it may have duplicated/imported several years of files when I did this? Today's notification that my hard drive is full prompted me to open Photos again to see what I can see. The Importing preference to copy items to the Photos library is off, but maybe I did that when I got my first notification that the hard drive is filling up. Photos Library in the Pictures directory is 118 GB. How do I get rid of this without screwing things up? (Yes I have external drive backup.) I can't even send a message from my local email client, write a Word document, do anything! Stacy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at on-the-net.com Sun Feb 23 23:04:00 2020 From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich@OTN) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 18:04:00 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] deleting Mac OS Photos librarydeleting Mac OS Photos library In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6021aaef-499b-6ab1-598d-cc7554625a31@on-the-net.com> 1) Make sure auto-backups is off, it creates backup images every hr/day/week And then remove the snapshots. 2) If you are not using photo or iPhoto - and have backed up all your images, delete that directory or at least the older ones. They are often in directories in some way -- a Mac of ours has had similar issues - there are directories within the Pictures directory you can delete - be sure to delete without using trash plenty online about how to do both of these. There are other here who I'm sure will chime in also Rich On 2/23/2020 2:23 PM, Stacy Kontrabecki via Hidden-discuss wrote: > I download all of my photos to the Pictures directory on my Mac with > OS Sierra installed. I do not manage my photos using the Photos app > but opened it once to see if I might like to. I'm thinking it may have > duplicated/imported several years of files when I did this? Today's > notification that my hard drive is full prompted me to open Photos > again to see what I can see. The Importing preference to copy items to > the Photos library is off, but maybe I did that when I got my first > notification that the hard drive is filling up. Photos Library in the > Pictures directory is 118 GB. How do I get rid of this without > screwing things up? (Yes I have external drive backup.) > > I can't even send a message from my local email client, write a Word > document, do anything! > > Stacy > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kh at queenlake.com Mon Feb 24 14:06:19 2020 From: kh at queenlake.com (Karl Hakkarainen) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 09:06:19 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Trademark advice In-Reply-To: <11dcee94-4f10-cc2e-bd99-4608cf0fcd81@montaguewebworks.com> References: <11dcee94-4f10-cc2e-bd99-4608cf0fcd81@montaguewebworks.com> Message-ID: The difference is that the trademark applies to "Soap Box" Derby. Because trademarks applications apply to exact words and marks, the space does matter. That said, one of the things that gets IP lawyers involved is when there is likelihood of confusion between trademarks. Using the phrase "Soapbox Derby" could make a reasonable person believe that the derby is affiliated with the "Soap Box Derby," a mark owned by International Soap Box Derby, Inc. This is a pretty good summary of the "likelihood of confusion" issue: https://ipmetrics.net/likelihoodofconfusion.html Again, I am not a lawyer, but I would avoid using Soapbox Derby in an event. The risk is small, but the impact could be big. ./kh On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm looking to see if I can use the term "soapbox derby" for some upcoming > events, and am a little confused by my search results. > > Using the US Patent and Trademark Office website, I find no results for > that exact phrase: > > - http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1 > > But on another USPTO page, I do find a hit: > > - > https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch > > And, using other websites, I find all kinds of hits and misses: > > - > https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search > - > https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60 > - https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/ > > What's the best way to make sure, and what's your experience with > searching and filing trademarks? > > Thanks, > > Mik > > > -- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 413-320-5336http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tech at montaguewebworks.com Mon Feb 24 14:32:11 2020 From: tech at montaguewebworks.com (Michael Muller) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 09:32:11 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Trademark advice In-Reply-To: References: <11dcee94-4f10-cc2e-bd99-4608cf0fcd81@montaguewebworks.com> Message-ID: Yeah. I think we're going to go with "Soapbox Races" for now. Seems safer, though I'd rather use something like "DIY Cart Derby" or anything simple that could catch on. I think the "Derby" part is more important. You already have the following derbies, so another type of derby makes sense... * Soap Box Derby * Pin Box Derby * Kentucky Derby And "DIY Cart" really is what the event is about. Maybe "Maker's Cart Derby" Thanks, Mik --- Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION On 2/24/2020 9:06 AM, Karl Hakkarainen wrote: > The difference is that the trademark applies to "Soap Box" Derby. > Because trademarks applications apply to exact words and marks, the > space does matter. > That said, one of the things that gets IP lawyers involved is when > there is likelihood of confusion between?trademarks. Using the > phrase?"Soapbox Derby" could make a reasonable person believe that the > derby is affiliated with the "Soap Box Derby," a mark owned > by?International Soap Box Derby, Inc. > This is a pretty good summary of the "likelihood of confusion" issue: > https://ipmetrics.net/likelihoodofconfusion.html > Again, I am not a lawyer, but I would avoid using Soapbox Derby in an > event. The risk is small, but the impact could be big. > ./kh > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss > > wrote: > > Hey all, > > I'm looking to see if I can use the term "soapbox derby" for some > upcoming events, and am a little confused by my search results. > > Using the US Patent and Trademark Office website, I find no > results for that exact phrase: > > * http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1 > > But on another USPTO page, I do find a hit: > > * https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch > > And, using other websites, I find all kinds of hits and misses: > > * https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search > * https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60 > * https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/ > > What's the best way to make sure, and what's your experience with > searching and filing trademarks? > > Thanks, > > Mik > > > -- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 413-320-5336 > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From explodingbee at gmail.com Mon Feb 24 17:35:58 2020 From: explodingbee at gmail.com (explodingbee .) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:35:58 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system Message-ID: Hi folks, I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive system. (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each other.) Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). Does anyone know if that is a good system? It is less expensive to get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that. Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much about that. Any thoughts on these things? Also, if I do get NAS drives, which ones are best? Thanks in advance. -Vincent -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at on-the-net.com Mon Feb 24 18:36:14 2020 From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich@OTN) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:36:14 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Personally I've picked bigger units (# of drives) and this is a more complex Q, whose ? I like Drobo,? while it is less standard technology, they allow adding drives (or replacing) as you go, of different sizes (usually getting bigger) and can even add another layer of duplication depending on number of drives. Bottom line, the bigger the drive, the worse the cost ($ and data) of loss potential. Since you didn't put a price on it or any sense of your in-house technology) - it's hard to advise more. Going beyond simple mirroring is usually worth the cost. Given that we have a number of personal computers and even local web/db servers used for projects. I much prefer NAS - that way you have much more flexibility and are not tied to a specific computer, THAT will crap out a some point -- using only Windows mirror I would totally avoid. Note: NAS drives is a reliability measure -- true NAS drives are for using in regular operations vs lower level drives that are mainly for backup and a good NAS unit will even turn the drives off when not used for some time period. Where as NAS device means it's on a local network - with if you have any connection and wifi you (probably) have even if you don't know it. Here is a good graph given by the Drobo people: https://www.drobo.com/storage-products/choose-drive/ If you go with a higher end system, it's worth getting the extended service - after all this is about saving your data, for an extended time. Rich BTW - I have about 42 Tb on 2 drobo units. On 2/24/2020 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi folks, > > I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive > system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each > other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: > https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). > Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to > get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a > mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two > drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? > Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but > that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much > about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS > drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. > > -Vincent > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roy at net-vantage.com Mon Feb 24 20:03:24 2020 From: roy at net-vantage.com (RA Cohen) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:03:24 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would strongly suggest you investigate FreeNAS at https://www.freenas.org/ OR, a small, properly configured BSD-based system with zfs storage pools would also be equivalent - it's just a matter of preference and possibly cost. Network Advantage could help you set up these kinds of NAS storage-servers, either physical or virtual in the cloud. -- Network Advantage Associates Roy A Cohen CEO 413-223-9007 opt 1 Cloud Services Office 365 Disaster Recovery Cloud Desktops | Servers Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations Traditional Services Security & Compliance Risk Assessment On / Off-Site Backups Standby Off-Site Servers Virtualization Solutions Remote Monitoring & Maintenance Net-Voice Phone Services System Upgrades Dramatic Cost Savings Unlimited Calling Advanced Feature Set Business Continuity On 2/24/20 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi folks, > > I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive > system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each > other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: > https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). > Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to > get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a > mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two > drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? > Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but > that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much > about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS > drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. > > -Vincent > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From explodingbee at gmail.com Mon Feb 24 21:17:06 2020 From: explodingbee at gmail.com (explodingbee .) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:17:06 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rich, Thank you for your response. First off, the instructions for hidden-tech say to edit the subject line when responding so that it is descriptive of what I am going to write. But I don't know how to do that after I click reply; unless I start a new thread. Actually, as I am typing now I don't even see the subject line. If someone wants to explain how to do that I will do so in the future. Rich, I looked at the Drobo website and they do have a unit for $350. I am trying to keep costs down but am willing to pay what I have to within reason to get this done properly. The QNAP unit I included a link to sells for $164. As I started reading on the drobo website it just seems like there is a whole world of external drive systems with many concepts that I am not familiar with. I do understand what you are saying when you say that it might be better to use more smaller drives rather than fewer larger drives. I had not previously thought about that. (Maybe I should get a four or five bay unit instead of a two bay unit, and get four 5tb drives or five 4tb drives instead of two 10tb drives. On the other hand, though, I would think that the more drives one has the more likely that one will go bad on any given day.) They are out of stock of the Drobo 5c on the manufacturer's website but I do see some similar models on ebay. (You say you have 42 tb of data? Wow. I thought I had a lot of data. Not compared to you. What are you doing with all that data?) Bottom line: I am not sure what type of unit to get. Thanks for your thoughts on this. Vincent On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 1:40 PM < hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Send Hidden-discuss mailing list submissions to > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/listinfo/hidden-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > hidden-discuss-owner at lists.hidden-tech.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Hidden-discuss digest..." > > > ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group > ** by filling out the survey/skills > ** inventory in the member's area. > ** Remember you must be counted to post . > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: How to remain connected when traveling to Europe > (James Triplett) > 2. Trademark advice (Michael Muller) > 3. deleting Mac OS Photos librarydeleting Mac OS Photos library > (Stacy Kontrabecki) > 4. Re: deleting Mac OS Photos librarydeleting Mac OS Photos > library (Rich at OTN) > 5. Re: Trademark advice (Karl Hakkarainen) > 6. Re: Trademark advice (Michael Muller) > 7. external hard drive system (explodingbee .) > 8. Re: external hard drive system (Rich at OTN) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 12:43:10 -0500 > From: James Triplett > To: Jeremy Wise > Cc: 'Rich Roth' , 'Hidden-Tech Tech' > > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] How to remain connected when traveling to > Europe > Message-ID: <20180306174310.GA30377 at bermuda.datamat.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On (04/03/18 18:12), Jeremy Wise wrote: > > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 18:12:21 -0500 > > From: Jeremy Wise > > To: 'Rich Roth' , 'Hidden-Tech Tech' > > > > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] How to remain connected when traveling to > Europe > > Reply-To: jeremywise at readingsuccesslab.com > > > > Thanks to everyone for their helpful suggestions! > > > > > > > > I use Verizon Wireless and they have a plan similar to what people have > > described for ATT, T-Moble etc, tho getting that info wasn't easy. > > Aha! That's an important distinction. Besides the pricing and plan > issues, > there's a technical issue. Most of the plans mentioned in this thread > are on carriers that use the GSM cellular system, which is ubiquitous in > Europe. > Verizon uses the CDMA cellular system, which is primarily available only > in the > US. In the popular tourist spots of Europe (London, Amsterdam, Berlin), > some CDMA systems have been installed- so there is some access for > a roaming Verizon phone, but it won't be as complete coverage as GSM. > > In the US, there are 4 carriers and 2 systems: > AT&T GSM > T-Mobile GSM > Sprint CDMA > Verison CDMA > > In Europe (and Asia except for Japan), all the different carriers use the > GSM underlying system. > > And we're just talking about talking. The whole area of data services- > 2G, 3G, 4G, 4G-LTE, etc, etc, gets even more twisted. > > So whatever plan you choose, ask carefully about the coverage map > and what data services are included. > > Good luck! > James > > > > > > > > > Many thanks, Jeremy Wise > > > > > > > > From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net > > [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Rich > Roth > > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 6:05 PM > > To: jeremywise at readingsuccesslab.com; Hidden-Tech Tech > > > > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] How to remain connected when traveling to > Europe > > > > > > > > We've done a fair bit of traveling in the last few years. > > > > Our phones are on t-mobile and we just have to activate international > > service, no extra charge on our plan. > > > > For ipads, we use AT&T and they have a monthly international service on > the > > pay as you go option, > > I think it was $30/month -- although warning their north america is > really > > USA - does NOT include Canada, no idea about Mexico. > > > > As for as hotel access, now a days, most hotels everywhere provide free > or > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 09:48:50 -0500 > From: Michael Muller > To: Hidden-Tech Tech > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Trademark advice > Message-ID: > <11dcee94-4f10-cc2e-bd99-4608cf0fcd81 at montaguewebworks.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Hey all, > > I'm looking to see if I can use the term "soapbox derby" for some > upcoming events, and am a little confused by my search results. > > Using the US Patent and Trademark Office website, I find no results for > that exact phrase: > > * http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1 > > But on another USPTO page, I do find a hit: > > * > https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch > > And, using other websites, I find all kinds of hits and misses: > > * https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search > * > https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60 > * https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/ > > What's the best way to make sure, and what's your experience with > searching and filing trademarks? > > Thanks, > > Mik > > > -- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 413-320-5336 > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200223/1c4dc9dd/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 14:23:30 -0500 > From: Stacy Kontrabecki > To: Hidden Tech > Subject: [Hidden-tech] deleting Mac OS Photos librarydeleting Mac OS > Photos library > Message-ID: > < > CAFEedX9QBbdAbnQmQJdwtfV9FUSRsxZp+swfd-XLVxVqAHgGSw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I download all of my photos to the Pictures directory on my Mac with OS > Sierra installed. I do not manage my photos using the Photos app but opened > it once to see if I might like to. I'm thinking it may have > duplicated/imported several years of files when I did this? Today's > notification that my hard drive is full prompted me to open Photos again to > see what I can see. The Importing preference to copy items to the Photos > library is off, but maybe I did that when I got my first notification that > the hard drive is filling up. Photos Library in the Pictures directory is > 118 GB. How do I get rid of this without screwing things up? (Yes I have > external drive backup.) > > I can't even send a message from my local email client, write a Word > document, do anything! > > Stacy > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200223/d51060e2/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2020 18:04:00 -0500 > From: "Rich at OTN" > To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] deleting Mac OS Photos librarydeleting Mac > OS Photos library > Message-ID: <6021aaef-499b-6ab1-598d-cc7554625a31 at on-the-net.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > 1) Make sure auto-backups is off, it creates backup images every > hr/day/week > And then remove the snapshots. > > 2) If you are not using photo or iPhoto - and have backed up all your > images, delete that directory or at least the older ones. > They are often in directories in some way -- a Mac of ours has had > similar issues - there are directories within the Pictures directory > you can delete - be sure to delete without using trash > > plenty online about how to do both of these. > > There are other here who I'm sure will chime in also > > Rich > > On 2/23/2020 2:23 PM, Stacy Kontrabecki via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > I download all of my photos to the Pictures directory on my Mac with > > OS Sierra installed. I do not manage my photos using the Photos app > > but opened it once to see if I might like to. I'm thinking it may have > > duplicated/imported several years of files when I did this? Today's > > notification that my hard drive is full prompted me to open Photos > > again to see what I can see. The Importing preference to copy items to > > the Photos library is off, but maybe I did that when I got my first > > notification that the hard drive is filling up. Photos Library in the > > Pictures directory is 118 GB. How do I get rid of this without > > screwing things up? (Yes I have external drive backup.) > > > > I can't even send a message from my local email client, write a Word > > document, do anything! > > > > Stacy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200223/1c669c7d/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 09:06:19 -0500 > From: Karl Hakkarainen > To: Michael Muller > Cc: Hidden-Tech Tech > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Trademark advice > Message-ID: > < > CAM2PmcC94FmaRznx8zazFiBmREJtKBsgZThTCPxSMw3XhbHGRg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > The difference is that the trademark applies to "Soap Box" Derby. Because > trademarks applications apply to exact words and marks, the space does > matter. > That said, one of the things that gets IP lawyers involved is when there is > likelihood of confusion between trademarks. Using the phrase "Soapbox > Derby" could make a reasonable person believe that the derby is affiliated > with the "Soap Box Derby," a mark owned by International Soap Box Derby, > Inc. > This is a pretty good summary of the "likelihood of confusion" issue: > https://ipmetrics.net/likelihoodofconfusion.html > Again, I am not a lawyer, but I would avoid using Soapbox Derby in an > event. The risk is small, but the impact could be big. > ./kh > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > I'm looking to see if I can use the term "soapbox derby" for some > upcoming > > events, and am a little confused by my search results. > > > > Using the US Patent and Trademark Office website, I find no results for > > that exact phrase: > > > > - http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1 > > > > But on another USPTO page, I do find a hit: > > > > - > > > https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch > > > > And, using other websites, I find all kinds of hits and misses: > > > > - > > > https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search > > - > > > https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60 > > - https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/ > > > > What's the best way to make sure, and what's your experience with > > searching and filing trademarks? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mik > > > > > > -- > > Mik Muller, president > > Montague WebWorks > > 413-320-5336http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200224/aea25407/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 09:32:11 -0500 > From: Michael Muller > To: Karl Hakkarainen > Cc: Hidden-Tech Tech > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Trademark advice > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Yeah. I think we're going to go with "Soapbox Races" for now. Seems > safer, though I'd rather use something like "DIY Cart Derby" or anything > simple that could catch on. I think the "Derby" part is more important. > You already have the following derbies, so another type of derby makes > sense... > > * Soap Box Derby > * Pin Box Derby > * Kentucky Derby > > And "DIY Cart" really is what the event is about. > > Maybe "Maker's Cart Derby" > > Thanks, > > Mik > > > --- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA > 413-320-5336 > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > On 2/24/2020 9:06 AM, Karl Hakkarainen wrote: > > The difference is that the trademark applies to "Soap Box" Derby. > > Because trademarks applications apply to exact words and marks, the > > space does matter. > > That said, one of the things that gets IP lawyers involved is when > > there is likelihood of confusion between?trademarks. Using the > > phrase?"Soapbox Derby" could make a reasonable person believe that the > > derby is affiliated with the "Soap Box Derby," a mark owned > > by?International Soap Box Derby, Inc. > > This is a pretty good summary of the "likelihood of confusion" issue: > > https://ipmetrics.net/likelihoodofconfusion.html > > Again, I am not a lawyer, but I would avoid using Soapbox Derby in an > > event. The risk is small, but the impact could be big. > > ./kh > > > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss > > > > wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > I'm looking to see if I can use the term "soapbox derby" for some > > upcoming events, and am a little confused by my search results. > > > > Using the US Patent and Trademark Office website, I find no > > results for that exact phrase: > > > > * > http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1 > > > > But on another USPTO page, I do find a hit: > > > > * > https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch > > > > And, using other websites, I find all kinds of hits and misses: > > > > * > https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search > > * > https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60 > > * https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/ > > > > What's the best way to make sure, and what's your experience with > > searching and filing trademarks? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mik > > > > > > -- > > Mik Muller, president > > Montague WebWorks > > 413-320-5336 > > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > > Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200224/d0e06a8b/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:35:58 -0500 > From: "explodingbee ." > To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system > Message-ID: > WA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi folks, > > I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive system. (So > that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each other.) Someone > suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: > > https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true > ). > Does anyone know if that is a good system? It is less expensive to get two > independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a mirroring function > available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two drives but someone > advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that. Also, I was thinking of > getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but that is apparently a > different types of system and I don't know much about that. Any thoughts > on these things? Also, if I do get NAS drives, which ones are best? > Thanks in advance. > > -Vincent > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200224/9057b361/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:36:14 -0500 > From: "Rich at OTN" > To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Personally I've picked bigger units (# of drives) and this is a more > complex Q, whose ? > I like Drobo,? while it is less standard technology, they allow adding > drives (or replacing) as you go, of different sizes (usually getting > bigger) > and can even add another layer of duplication depending on number of > drives. > > Bottom line, the bigger the drive, the worse the cost ($ and data) of > loss potential. > Since you didn't put a price on it or any sense of your in-house > technology) - it's hard to advise more. > Going beyond simple mirroring is usually worth the cost. > > Given that we have a number of personal computers and even local web/db > servers used for projects. > I much prefer NAS - that way you have much more flexibility and are not > tied to a specific computer, > THAT will crap out a some point -- using only Windows mirror I would > totally avoid. > > Note: NAS drives is a reliability measure -- true NAS drives are for > using in regular operations vs lower level drives that are mainly for > backup and a good NAS unit will even turn the drives off when not used > for some time period. > > Where as NAS device means it's on a local network - with if you have any > connection and wifi you (probably) have even if you don't know it. > > Here is a good graph given by the Drobo people: > https://www.drobo.com/storage-products/choose-drive/ > > If you go with a higher end system, it's worth getting the extended > service - after all this is about saving your data, > for an extended time. > > Rich > BTW - I have about 42 Tb on 2 drobo units. > > On 2/24/2020 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive > > system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each > > other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: > > > https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). > > > Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to > > get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a > > mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two > > drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? > > Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but > > that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much > > about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS > > drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. > > > > -Vincent > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200224/1bc64531/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 7 > ********************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at on-the-net.com Mon Feb 24 21:38:18 2020 From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich@OTN) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:38:18 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20d5f8e0-5a3d-0d7c-bcc5-27a0babf8c3a@on-the-net.com> we also used Openfiler https://www.openfiler.com/ on a system (since 2011) And it has worked fine - clearly an NAS On 2/24/2020 3:03 PM, RA Cohen via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > I would strongly suggest you investigate FreeNAS at > https://www.freenas.org/ > > OR, > > a small, properly configured BSD-based system with zfs storage pools > would also be equivalent - it's just a matter of preference and > possibly cost. > > Network Advantage could help you set up these kinds of NAS > storage-servers, either physical or virtual in the cloud. > > -- > Network Advantage Associates > Roy A Cohen CEO > 413-223-9007 opt 1 > > Cloud Services > > Office 365 > Disaster Recovery > Cloud Desktops | Servers > Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations > > Traditional Services > > Security & Compliance > Risk Assessment > On / Off-Site Backups > Standby Off-Site Servers > Virtualization Solutions > Remote Monitoring & Maintenance > > Net-Voice Phone Services > > System Upgrades > Dramatic Cost Savings > Unlimited Calling > Advanced Feature Set > Business Continuity > > On 2/24/20 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: >> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but >> that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much >> about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS >> drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >> >> -Vincent >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at on-the-net.com Mon Feb 24 22:22:56 2020 From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich@OTN) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 17:22:56 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <756c000b-d99b-4dc1-7c35-b8ae4dd64e73@on-the-net.com> See below On 2/24/2020 4:17 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Thank you for your response. > > First off, the instructions for hidden-tech say to edit the subject > line when responding so that it is descriptive of what I am going to > write.? But I don't know how to do that after I click reply; unless I > start a new thread.? Actually, as I am typing now I don't even see the > subject line.? If someone wants to explain how to do that I will do so > in the future. It looks like you are tripping over options on gmail reader (guessing from your email) -- not something I use, and looks a bit tricky. Any one else on this ? I'll post on HT web site as advice. AND even if you can't change the subject -you can trim unrelated posts from the digest - please. > Rich, I looked at the Drobo website and they do have a unit for $350.? > I am trying to keep costs down but am willing to pay what I have to > within reason to get this done properly.? The QNAP unit I included a > link to sells for $164.? As I started reading on the drobo website it > just seems like there is a whole world of external drive systems with > many concepts that I am not familiar with. I do understand what you > are saying when you say that it might be better to use more smaller > drives rather than fewer larger drives.? I had not previously thought > about that.? (Maybe I should get a four or five bay unit instead of a > two bay unit, and get four 5tb drives or five 4tb drives instead of > two 10tb drives.? On the other hand, though, I would think that the > more drives one has the more likely that one will go bad on any given > day.)? They are out of stock of the Drobo 5c on the manufacturer's > website but I do see some similar models on ebay. Actually have more smaller drives are less likely to fail -- AND the added trick is to buy drives over a time so each from different batches. And added approach, I have not tried, is a mix of manufacturers. as for the unit you mention, and many of the RAID units, all drives must be of the same size -- I'm not sure how this applies to all drive units. There is plenty online about doing that -- RAID6 seems to have part of the answer. And yes, you're better with 4x5tb then 2x10 -- and BTW, 4x drives lose a smaller amount in the RAID system (the basic technology we are talking about) -- Rather then mirror (called RAID1) - RAID5/6 -- sorry but I can't give percentages, the easy one is that mirroring gives you the size of one of the drives - the other raids use less for redundancy. Here is some of what I'm saying to be more visual, however knowing helps, for practical use you don't need to know the details: https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/08/raid-levels-tutorial/ > > (You say you have 42 tb of data?? Wow.? I thought I had a lot of > data.? Not compared to you.? What are you doing with all that data?) Aside from normal backups and years of images, and other projects -- I get a bit heavy on saving videos from my tivo. > > Bottom line:? I am not sure what type of unit to get. Direct connect or Network is a choice that depends on how you use it and that's more of a personal choice. Also, as was just pointed out to me, that effects Drobo - evidently Drobo directly shipps units from China and are being effected by the Coronavirus -- no idea who else or for how long this will be an issue -- personally I'd pick the best unit for my needs and wait a bit. > > Thanks for your thoughts on this. > > Vincent > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bklee at azurelink.com Tue Feb 25 14:46:42 2020 From: bklee at azurelink.com (B. Kimo Lee) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 09:46:42 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi HT, I?m also interested in a new local backup RAID system. A consultant I work with suggested I look into Synology disk stations. Wondering whether anyone has compared these two? Best, Kimo On Feb 24, 2020, at 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi folks, > > I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive system. (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each other.) Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). Does anyone know if that is a good system? It is less expensive to get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that. Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much about that. Any thoughts on these things? Also, if I do get NAS drives, which ones are best? Thanks in advance. > > -Vincent > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From natederose at gmail.com Tue Feb 25 15:33:50 2020 From: natederose at gmail.com (Nate DeRose) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:33:50 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mobile classroom rental In-Reply-To: <756c000b-d99b-4dc1-7c35-b8ae4dd64e73@on-the-net.com> References: <756c000b-d99b-4dc1-7c35-b8ae4dd64e73@on-the-net.com> Message-ID: Does anyone know a place in the area that might rent out a "mobile classroom" of sorts? Basically, just 10-12 Win10 laptops with MS Office 2016 installed on them? 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Now this might not seem like a big deal, but last month I had a customer sign up for an event and then two minutes later ask me for a refund, because they had forgotten to check their calendar. Their forgetfulness cost me $9.00! I have always been a big fan of no-risk, money back for any reason policies if you are not satisfied, with a few exceptions. But it seems massively unfair for the seller to lose money because of customer flightiness or mistakes. On the other hand, telling customers about the new policies and either restricting refunds or charging the fee to the customer seems wrong in most instances. I think they will expect you to absorb the extra charges as a "cost of doing business." What is your opinion? Marcia Yudkin Goshen www.yudkin.com From rob at 2disc.com Tue Feb 25 16:24:26 2020 From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:24:26 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: My firm has used Synology for ~8 years, and it's good. I should add that as a result of not updating its OS, in 2014 it got hit with ransomware. Since the attack didn't impact Mac files, and back then most were Mac here, we did not notice for ~2-3 weeks, when the ransom had risen to a lot more than the ~$1500 of work to restore from a tertiary backup system (ransomware usually spreads to any directly connected secondary backup, so good to have a less frequently updated tertiary system). Synology has a bunch of apps available, like for backing up to such popular offsite systems as Amazon S3/Glacier. The Raid was nice--one of the drives failed within months, and Synology replaced for free. That all said, I rarely deal with the device myself, and we use it only for backup, not a working file server. Best Regards, Rob Laporte Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:46 AM To: explodingbee . Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system Hi HT, I?m also interested in a new local backup RAID system. A consultant I work with suggested I look into Synology disk stations. Wondering whether anyone has compared these two? Best, Kimo On Feb 24, 2020, at 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss > wrote: Hi folks, I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive system. (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each other.) Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). Does anyone know if that is a good system? It is less expensive to get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that. Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much about that. Any thoughts on these things? Also, if I do get NAS drives, which ones are best? Thanks in advance. -Vincent _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the at otherrealm.org Tue Feb 25 16:33:16 2020 From: the at otherrealm.org (Aaron E-J) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:33:16 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mobile classroom rental In-Reply-To: References: <756c000b-d99b-4dc1-7c35-b8ae4dd64e73@on-the-net.com> Message-ID: <0ea7b5a0-e690-5500-1b73-7dcfda806866@otherrealm.org> I would recommend looking into one of the community colleges or five colleges. Aaron E-J The Other Realm LLC http://otherrealm.org http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) On 2020-02-25 10:33 AM, Nate DeRose via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Does anyone know a place in the area that might rent out a "mobile > classroom" of sorts? > > Basically, just 10-12 Win10 laptops with MS Office 2016 installed on them? > > Thanks, > Nate > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eli at egwynn.com Tue Feb 25 16:48:14 2020 From: eli at egwynn.com (Elijah Gwynn) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:48:14 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system In-Reply-To: <20d5f8e0-5a3d-0d7c-bcc5-27a0babf8c3a@on-the-net.com> References: <20d5f8e0-5a3d-0d7c-bcc5-27a0babf8c3a@on-the-net.com> Message-ID: +1 for BSD-based system. If you've got some unix savvy, it's relatively easy to set up FreeBSD with ZFS in various RAID configs. It's also great for running your own local services if you want to get more out of your hardware. Eli On 24 Feb 2020, at 16:38, Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss wrote: > we also used Openfiler https://www.openfiler.com/ on a system (since > 2011) > And it has worked fine - clearly an NAS > > On 2/24/2020 3:03 PM, RA Cohen via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> I would strongly suggest you investigate FreeNAS at >> https://www.freenas.org/ >> >> OR, >> >> a small, properly configured BSD-based system with zfs storage pools >> would also be equivalent - it's just a matter of preference and >> possibly cost. >> >> Network Advantage could help you set up these kinds of NAS >> storage-servers, either physical or virtual in the cloud. >> >> -- >> Network Advantage Associates >> Roy A Cohen CEO >> 413-223-9007 opt 1 >> >> Cloud Services >> >> Office 365 >> Disaster Recovery >> Cloud Desktops | Servers >> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations >> >> Traditional Services >> >> Security & Compliance >> Risk Assessment >> On / Off-Site Backups >> Standby Off-Site Servers >> Virtualization Solutions >> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance >> >> Net-Voice Phone Services >> >> System Upgrades >> Dramatic Cost Savings >> Unlimited Calling >> Advanced Feature Set >> Business Continuity >> >> On 2/24/20 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >>> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >>> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system >>> (example: >>> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >>> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >>> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >>> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >>> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >>> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, >>> but that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know >>> much about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get >>> NAS drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >>> >>> -Vincent >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roy at net-vantage.com Tue Feb 25 16:56:29 2020 From: roy at net-vantage.com (RA Cohen) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:56:29 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Kimo, again I recommend learning just a bit about ZFS - how it is considered by many the ultimate file system with origins in Sun Microsystems but still being actively developed and refined in the open source world. It is behind many commercial products. The ease and reliability of local snapshotting has saved my butt many times over. It also makes it relative simple to do a send | receive of block changes to a remote off-site server for backups. The operating systems with zfs support usually include rsync which further expands your options... ZFS is part of FreeBSD [underlying FreeNAS], and can also be implemented in Linux [although I cannot attest to its ruggedness there] IRC channels are great resources for ZFS support (and FreeBSD also). Here's an interesting read: https://itsfoss.com/freebsd-interview-deb-goodkin/ and https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/zfs.html I've installed FreeBSD on a large variety of hardware and use zfs with it extensively ... FreeNAS (or NAS4Free) is there if one wants a more appliance-like experience... Last thing - exporting and importing of zfs pools means one can take, for example, a pair of mirrored disks making up a zpool - and move them to another piece of completely different hardware - do a zpool import - and bingo!, you're ready to roll! Hope this is helpful, -Roy -- Network Advantage Associates Roy A Cohen CEO 413-223-9007 opt 1 Cloud Services Office 365 Disaster Recovery Cloud Desktops | Servers Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations Traditional Services Security & Compliance Risk Assessment On / Off-Site Backups Standby Off-Site Servers Virtualization Solutions Remote Monitoring & Maintenance Net-Voice Phone Services System Upgrades Dramatic Cost Savings Unlimited Calling Advanced Feature Set Business Continuity On 2/25/20 9:46 AM, B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi HT, > > I?m also interested in a new local backup RAID system. A consultant I > work with suggested I look into Synology disk stations. Wondering > whether anyone has compared these two? > > Best, > Kimo > > > > On Feb 24, 2020, at 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss > > wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: >> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but >> that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much >> about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS >> drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >> >> -Vincent >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at on-the-net.com Tue Feb 25 17:00:58 2020 From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich@OTN) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:00:58 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Now for a totally different idea If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based NAS There are variety of online detailed FAQ about how to build one. On quite review, they appear to be all based on using the 4 USB to connect the drives, which would effect the absolute speed -- but I've not looked further. Might be a good group project ;) -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com From anita.lockesmith at gmail.com Tue Feb 25 17:26:40 2020 From: anita.lockesmith at gmail.com (Anita Lockesmith) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:26:40 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] QB Message-ID: I'm not sure if anyone out there can help me with this but... I have QB desktop. Although I've connected by local bank to qb I can't download or get regular feeds. QB says it's bank issue, banks says it's qb issue. Not sure where to go from there. 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QB says it's bank issue, banks says it's qb issue. Not sure where to go from there. Thank you. -- ________________ Find me at greenfieldperdiem.com "Project Support When You Need It" 27 Allen Street, Greenfield, MA 01301 (978) 895-1912 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ira at fambizpv.com Tue Feb 25 22:29:04 2020 From: ira at fambizpv.com (Ira Bryck) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 22:29:04 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] QB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F47F04B-FFF1-4E36-B7F3-F790C19F2874@fambizpv.com> PS: yourqbguru.com is Massachusetts business From: Ira Bryck Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 3:31 PM To: Anita Lockesmith , Hidden tech list Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] QB Hi I have had success using the company yourqbguru.com, that knows all about the product, options, accounting guidance, etc. Ask for Rebecca. Ira Bryck irabryck.com fambizpv.com 413-575-5850 ________________________________ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Anita Lockesmith via Hidden-discuss Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:26:40 PM To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: [Hidden-tech] QB I'm not sure if anyone out there can help me with this but... I have QB desktop. Although I've connected by local bank to qb I can't download or get regular feeds. QB says it's bank issue, banks says it's qb issue. Not sure where to go from there. Thank you. -- ________________ Find me at greenfieldperdiem.com "Project Support When You Need It" 27 Allen Street, Greenfield, MA 01301 (978) 895-1912 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From explodingbee at gmail.com Wed Feb 26 01:44:24 2020 From: explodingbee at gmail.com (explodingbee .) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 20:44:24 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who responded to my query about a data storage system. Here are some comments in response: Roy: I am open to using FreeNAS and ZFS. But I don't have the hardware yet. I think I should get the hardware first. I also really don't have time to make this into a big learning project. Also, I want a physical storage system, not a cloud based one. Rich: You wrote: "If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based NAS" I have never even heard of this before. If it is a DIY project it would probably take a lot of time, and I can't really afford that at this point. Also, in another email you wrote: "Also, as was just pointed out to me, that effects Drobo - evidently Drobo directly shipps units from China and are being effected by the Coronavirus -- no idea who else or for how long this will be an issue -- personally I'd pick the best unit for my needs and wait a bit." Unfortunately, I can't really wait. My laptop keyboard is all screwed up and I am using an onscreen keyboard to type. I need to get this storage system, get my data off and send out my laptop to MSI for repair. Rob Laporte: Ok. You recommend Synology (in another email). I will look at/consider their units. Thanks, Vincent On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:47 PM < hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Send Hidden-discuss mailing list submissions to > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/listinfo/hidden-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > hidden-discuss-owner at lists.hidden-tech.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Hidden-discuss digest..." > > > ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group > ** by filling out the survey/skills > ** inventory in the member's area. > ** Remember you must be counted to post . > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mobile classroom rental (Aaron E-J) > 2. Re: external hard drive system (Elijah Gwynn) > 3. Re: external hard drive system (RA Cohen) > 4. Re: external hard drive system (Rich at OTN) > 5. QB (Anita Lockesmith) > 6. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) > 7. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:48:14 -0500 > From: "Elijah Gwynn" > To: "Rich at OTN" > Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > +1 for BSD-based system. If you've got some unix savvy, it's relatively > easy to set up FreeBSD with ZFS in various RAID configs. It's also great > for running your own local services if you want to get more out of your > hardware. > > Eli > > On 24 Feb 2020, at 16:38, Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > > we also used Openfiler https://www.openfiler.com/ on a system (since > > 2011) > > And it has worked fine - clearly an NAS > > > > On 2/24/2020 3:03 PM, RA Cohen via Hidden-discuss wrote: > >> > >> I would strongly suggest you investigate FreeNAS at > >> https://www.freenas.org/ > >> > >> OR, > >> > >> a small, properly configured BSD-based system with zfs storage pools > >> would also be equivalent - it's just a matter of preference and > >> possibly cost. > >> > >> Network Advantage could help you set up these kinds of NAS > >> storage-servers, either physical or virtual in the cloud. > >> > >> -- > >> Network Advantage Associates > >> Roy A Cohen CEO > >> 413-223-9007 opt 1 > >> > >> Cloud Services > >> > >> Office 365 > >> Disaster Recovery > >> Cloud Desktops | Servers > >> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations > >> > >> Traditional Services > >> > >> Security & Compliance > >> Risk Assessment > >> On / Off-Site Backups > >> Standby Off-Site Servers > >> Virtualization Solutions > >> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance > >> > >> Net-Voice Phone Services > >> > >> System Upgrades > >> Dramatic Cost Savings > >> Unlimited Calling > >> Advanced Feature Set > >> Business Continuity > >> > >> On 2/24/20 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: > >>> Hi folks, > >>> > >>> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive > >>> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each > >>> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system > >>> (example: > >>> > https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). > > >>> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to > >>> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a > >>> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two > >>> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? > >>> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, > >>> but that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know > >>> much about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get > >>> NAS drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. > >>> > >>> -Vincent > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net > >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >>> > >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > >>> list. > >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >> > >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > >> list. > >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > > list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/c6f9d127/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:56:29 -0500 > From: RA Cohen > To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > Hi Kimo, again I recommend learning just a bit about ZFS - how it is > considered by many the ultimate file system with origins in Sun > Microsystems but still being actively developed and refined in the open > source world. It is behind many commercial products. > > The ease and reliability of local snapshotting has saved my butt many > times over. > > It also makes it relative simple to do a send | receive of block changes > to a remote off-site server for backups. The operating systems with zfs > support usually include rsync which further expands your options... > > ZFS is part of FreeBSD [underlying FreeNAS], and can also be implemented > in Linux [although I cannot attest to its ruggedness there] > > IRC channels are great resources for ZFS support (and FreeBSD also). > > Here's an interesting read: > https://itsfoss.com/freebsd-interview-deb-goodkin/ > > and > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/zfs.html > > I've installed FreeBSD on a large variety of hardware and use zfs with > it extensively ... FreeNAS (or NAS4Free) is there if one wants a more > appliance-like experience... > > Last thing - exporting and importing of zfs pools means one can take, > for example, a pair of mirrored disks making up a zpool - and move them > to another piece of completely different hardware - do a zpool import - > and bingo!, you're ready to roll! > > Hope this is helpful, > > -Roy > > -- > Network Advantage Associates > Roy A Cohen CEO > 413-223-9007 opt 1 > > Cloud Services > > Office 365 > Disaster Recovery > Cloud Desktops | Servers > Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations > > Traditional Services > > Security & Compliance > Risk Assessment > On / Off-Site Backups > Standby Off-Site Servers > Virtualization Solutions > Remote Monitoring & Maintenance > > Net-Voice Phone Services > > System Upgrades > Dramatic Cost Savings > Unlimited Calling > Advanced Feature Set > Business Continuity > > On 2/25/20 9:46 AM, B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Hi HT, > > > > I?m also interested in a new local backup RAID system. A consultant I > > work with suggested I look into Synology disk stations. Wondering > > whether anyone has compared these two? > > > > Best, > > Kimo > > > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2020, at 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss > > > > wrote: > > > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive > >> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each > >> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: > >> > https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). > > >> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to > >> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a > >> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two > >> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? > >> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but > >> that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much > >> about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS > >> drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. > >> > >> -Vincent > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >> > >> > >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > >> list. > >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/61d33baf/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:00:58 -0500 > From: "Rich at OTN" > To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Now for a totally different idea > > If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based NAS > There are variety of online detailed FAQ about how to build one. > > On quite review, they appear to be all based on using the 4 USB to > connect the drives, which > would effect the absolute speed -- but I've not looked further. > > Might be a good group project ;) > > -- > Rich Roth > CEO TnR Global > > Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com > Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com > Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com > And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com > http://www.artonmytv.com/ > Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 10 > *********************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dede at dedewilson.com Wed Feb 26 13:27:05 2020 From: dede at dedewilson.com (=?utf-8?B?RMOpZMOpIFdpbHNvbg==?=) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 08:27:05 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] QB In-Reply-To: <7F47F04B-FFF1-4E36-B7F3-F790C19F2874@fambizpv.com> References: <7F47F04B-FFF1-4E36-B7F3-F790C19F2874@fambizpv.com> Message-ID: <944FF817-68BB-4797-A1DA-4032DFF25829@dedewilson.com> Also try my local friend in Greenfield who has been doing this for years. https://www.racheljroy.com Tell her I sent you! D?d? > On Feb 25, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Ira Bryck via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > PS: yourqbguru.com is Massachusetts business > > From: Ira Bryck > Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 3:31 PM > To: Anita Lockesmith , Hidden tech list > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] QB > > Hi > > I have had success using the company yourqbguru.com, that knows all about the product, options, accounting guidance, etc. Ask for Rebecca. > > Ira Bryck > irabryck.com > fambizpv.com > 413-575-5850 > > > From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Anita Lockesmith via Hidden-discuss > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:26:40 PM > To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: [Hidden-tech] QB > > I'm not sure if anyone out there can help me with this but... > I have QB desktop. Although I've connected by local bank to qb I can't download or get regular feeds. QB says it's bank issue, banks says it's qb issue. 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Also, I want a physical > storage system, not a cloud based one. > > Rich: You wrote: "If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based > NAS" I have never even heard of this before. If it is a DIY project it > would probably take a lot of time, and I can't really afford that at this > point. > > Also, in another email you wrote: > > "Also, as was just pointed out to me, that effects Drobo - evidently > Drobo directly shipps units from China and are being effected by the > Coronavirus -- no idea who else or for how long this will be an issue -- > personally I'd pick the best unit for my needs and wait a bit." > > Unfortunately, I can't really wait. My laptop keyboard is all screwed up > and I am using an onscreen keyboard to type. I need to get this storage > system, get my data off and send out my laptop to MSI for repair. > > Rob Laporte: Ok. You recommend Synology (in another email). I will look > at/consider their units. > > Thanks, > > Vincent > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:47 PM < > hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Send Hidden-discuss mailing list submissions to >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/listinfo/hidden-discuss >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> hidden-discuss-owner at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Hidden-discuss digest..." >> >> >> ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group >> ** by filling out the survey/skills >> ** inventory in the member's area. >> ** Remember you must be counted to post . >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Mobile classroom rental (Aaron E-J) >> 2. Re: external hard drive system (Elijah Gwynn) >> 3. Re: external hard drive system (RA Cohen) >> 4. Re: external hard drive system (Rich at OTN) >> 5. QB (Anita Lockesmith) >> 6. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) >> 7. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:48:14 -0500 >> From: "Elijah Gwynn" >> To: "Rich at OTN" >> Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >> >> +1 for BSD-based system. If you've got some unix savvy, it's relatively >> easy to set up FreeBSD with ZFS in various RAID configs. It's also great >> for running your own local services if you want to get more out of your >> hardware. >> >> Eli >> >> On 24 Feb 2020, at 16:38, Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> > we also used Openfiler https://www.openfiler.com/ on a system (since >> > 2011) >> > And it has worked fine - clearly an NAS >> > >> > On 2/24/2020 3:03 PM, RA Cohen via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> >> >> I would strongly suggest you investigate FreeNAS at >> >> https://www.freenas.org/ >> >> >> >> OR, >> >> >> >> a small, properly configured BSD-based system with zfs storage pools >> >> would also be equivalent - it's just a matter of preference and >> >> possibly cost. >> >> >> >> Network Advantage could help you set up these kinds of NAS >> >> storage-servers, either physical or virtual in the cloud. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Network Advantage Associates >> >> Roy A Cohen CEO >> >> 413-223-9007 opt 1 >> >> >> >> Cloud Services >> >> >> >> Office 365 >> >> Disaster Recovery >> >> Cloud Desktops | Servers >> >> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations >> >> >> >> Traditional Services >> >> >> >> Security & Compliance >> >> Risk Assessment >> >> On / Off-Site Backups >> >> Standby Off-Site Servers >> >> Virtualization Solutions >> >> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance >> >> >> >> Net-Voice Phone Services >> >> >> >> System Upgrades >> >> Dramatic Cost Savings >> >> Unlimited Calling >> >> Advanced Feature Set >> >> Business Continuity >> >> >> >> On 2/24/20 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, >> >>> >> >>> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >> >>> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >> >>> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system >> >>> (example: >> >>> >> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >> >> >>> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >> >>> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >> >>> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >> >>> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >> >>> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, >> >>> but that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know >> >>> much about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get >> >>> NAS drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >> >>> >> >>> -Vincent >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >> >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >>> >> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> >>> list. >> >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> >> list. >> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> > >> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> > list. >> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/c6f9d127/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:56:29 -0500 >> From: RA Cohen >> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" >> >> Hi Kimo, again I recommend learning just a bit about ZFS - how it is >> considered by many the ultimate file system with origins in Sun >> Microsystems but still being actively developed and refined in the open >> source world. It is behind many commercial products. >> >> The ease and reliability of local snapshotting has saved my butt many >> times over. >> >> It also makes it relative simple to do a send | receive of block changes >> to a remote off-site server for backups. The operating systems with zfs >> support usually include rsync which further expands your options... >> >> ZFS is part of FreeBSD [underlying FreeNAS], and can also be implemented >> in Linux [although I cannot attest to its ruggedness there] >> >> IRC channels are great resources for ZFS support (and FreeBSD also). >> >> Here's an interesting read: >> https://itsfoss.com/freebsd-interview-deb-goodkin/ >> >> and >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/zfs.html >> >> I've installed FreeBSD on a large variety of hardware and use zfs with >> it extensively ... FreeNAS (or NAS4Free) is there if one wants a more >> appliance-like experience... >> >> Last thing - exporting and importing of zfs pools means one can take, >> for example, a pair of mirrored disks making up a zpool - and move them >> to another piece of completely different hardware - do a zpool import - >> and bingo!, you're ready to roll! >> >> Hope this is helpful, >> >> -Roy >> >> -- >> Network Advantage Associates >> Roy A Cohen CEO >> 413-223-9007 opt 1 >> >> Cloud Services >> >> Office 365 >> Disaster Recovery >> Cloud Desktops | Servers >> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations >> >> Traditional Services >> >> Security & Compliance >> Risk Assessment >> On / Off-Site Backups >> Standby Off-Site Servers >> Virtualization Solutions >> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance >> >> Net-Voice Phone Services >> >> System Upgrades >> Dramatic Cost Savings >> Unlimited Calling >> Advanced Feature Set >> Business Continuity >> >> On 2/25/20 9:46 AM, B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> > Hi HT, >> > >> > I?m also interested in a new local backup RAID system. A consultant I >> > work with suggested I look into Synology disk stations. Wondering >> > whether anyone has compared these two? >> > >> > Best, >> > Kimo >> > >> > >> > >> > On Feb 24, 2020, at 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss >> > > > > wrote: >> > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> >> >> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >> >> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >> >> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: >> >> >> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >> >> >> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >> >> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >> >> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >> >> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >> >> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but >> >> that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much >> >> about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS >> >> drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> -Vincent >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> >> >> >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> >> list. >> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> > >> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> list. >> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/61d33baf/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:00:58 -0500 >> From: "Rich at OTN" >> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> Now for a totally different idea >> >> If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based NAS >> There are variety of online detailed FAQ about how to build one. >> >> On quite review, they appear to be all based on using the 4 USB to >> connect the drives, which >> would effect the absolute speed -- but I've not looked further. >> >> Might be a good group project ;) >> >> -- >> Rich Roth >> CEO TnR Global >> >> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com >> Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com >> Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com >> And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com >> http://www.artonmytv.com/ >> Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 10 >> *********************************************** >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anita.lockesmith at gmail.com Wed Feb 26 19:42:57 2020 From: anita.lockesmith at gmail.com (Anita Lockesmith) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 14:42:57 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] QB In-Reply-To: <7F47F04B-FFF1-4E36-B7F3-F790C19F2874@fambizpv.com> References: <7F47F04B-FFF1-4E36-B7F3-F790C19F2874@fambizpv.com> Message-ID: Hi Ira, So the QBguru essentially offers ongoing business support. Do you happen to know anyone locally who can offer intermittent support. I need someone to set me up and be done. I've used QB in a limited fashion for years. My business is small and does not require or can it afford ongoing "support services" I was looking to streamline by adding online bank feed. That was all I needed help with. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:29 PM Ira Bryck wrote: > PS: yourqbguru.com is Massachusetts business > > > > *From: *Ira Bryck > *Date: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 3:31 PM > *To: *Anita Lockesmith , Hidden tech list < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > *Subject: *Re: [Hidden-tech] QB > > > > Hi > > > > I have had success using the company yourqbguru.com, that knows all about > the product, options, accounting guidance, etc. Ask for Rebecca. > > > > Ira Bryck > > irabryck.com > > fambizpv.com > > 413-575-5850 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Hidden-discuss on > behalf of Anita Lockesmith via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:26:40 PM > *To:* hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > *Subject:* [Hidden-tech] QB > > > > I'm not sure if anyone out there can help me with this but... > > I have QB desktop. Although I've connected by local bank to qb I can't > download or get regular feeds. QB says it's bank issue, banks says it's qb > issue. Not sure where to go from there. > > Thank you. > > > > -- > > > > ________________ > > Find me at greenfieldperdiem.com > > "Project Support When You Need It" > > 27 Allen Street, Greenfield, MA 01301 > > (978) 895-1912 > > > > > > > > > -- ________________ Find me at greenfieldperdiem.com "Project Support When You Need It" 27 Allen Street, Greenfield, MA 01301 (978) 895-1912 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ira at fambizpv.com Wed Feb 26 20:04:30 2020 From: ira at fambizpv.com (Ira Bryck) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 20:04:30 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] QB In-Reply-To: References: <7F47F04B-FFF1-4E36-B7F3-F790C19F2874@fambizpv.com> Message-ID: <91762A5D-70E1-49AE-9175-DC2CE52918D2@fambizpv.com> Hi again, Anita I mentioned to Rebecca what you?re looking for, and here?s her reply: Hope it helps Ira Hi Ira, We offer a package where we set up files for people. It sounds like she might need training and we can also help her with that. She would not be obligated to work with us long-term if her business does not require it. We could potentially do this remotely as well depending on the needs. I would be happy to speak with her about how we could potentially help her if she is open to it. Thanks again for the mention! Rebecca Rebecca Stacey | Director of Business Development [cid:image001.png at 01D5ECB6.0F14C4C0]T: 508.655.2255 | F: 508.655.2355 | C: 508.934.6185 YourQBGuru, Inc 209 West Central Street | Suite 114 Natick, MA 01760 Rebecca at YourQBGuru.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 6530 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From anita.lockesmith at gmail.com Wed Feb 26 20:39:16 2020 From: anita.lockesmith at gmail.com (Anita Lockesmith) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:39:16 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] QB In-Reply-To: <91762A5D-70E1-49AE-9175-DC2CE52918D2@fambizpv.com> References: <7F47F04B-FFF1-4E36-B7F3-F790C19F2874@fambizpv.com> <91762A5D-70E1-49AE-9175-DC2CE52918D2@fambizpv.com> Message-ID: Thank you, that is helpful. Fortunately, after hours of head banging, I think I have it sorted out. For the moment anyway Thank you all! On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:04 PM Ira Bryck wrote: > Hi again, Anita > > > > I mentioned to Rebecca what you?re looking for, and here?s her reply: > > > > *Hope it helps* > > > > *Ira* > > > > > > > > Hi Ira, > > > > We offer a package where we set up files for people. It sounds like she > might need training and we can also help her with that. She would not be > obligated to work with us long-term if her business does not require it. We > could potentially do this remotely as well depending on the needs. I would > be happy to speak with her about how we could potentially help her if she > is open to it. > > > > Thanks again for the mention! > > > > *Rebecca* > > *Rebecca Stacey | Director of Business Development* > > T: 508.655.2255 | F: 508.655.2355 | C: 508.934.6185 > > *YourQBGuru, Inc* > > *209 West Central Street | Suite 114* > > *Natick, MA 01760* > > Rebecca at YourQBGuru.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- ________________ Find me at greenfieldperdiem.com "Project Support When You Need It" 27 Allen Street, Greenfield, MA 01301 (978) 895-1912 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Wilson via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Also try my local friend in Greenfield who has been doing this for years. > > https://www.racheljroy.com > > Tell her I sent you! > > D?d? > > On Feb 25, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Ira Bryck via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > PS: yourqbguru.com is Massachusetts business > > *From: *Ira Bryck > *Date: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 3:31 PM > *To: *Anita Lockesmith , Hidden tech list < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > *Subject: *Re: [Hidden-tech] QB > > Hi > > I have had success using the company yourqbguru.com, that knows all about > the product, options, accounting guidance, etc. Ask for Rebecca. > > Ira Bryck > irabryck.com > fambizpv.com > 413-575-5850 > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Hidden-discuss on > behalf of Anita Lockesmith via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2020 12:26:40 PM > *To:* hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > *Subject:* [Hidden-tech] QB > > I'm not sure if anyone out there can help me with this but... > I have QB desktop. Although I've connected by local bank to qb I can't > download or get regular feeds. QB says it's bank issue, banks says it's qb > issue. Not sure where to go from there. > Thank you. > > -- > > ________________ > Find me at greenfieldperdiem.com > "Project Support When You Need It" > 27 Allen Street, Greenfield, MA 01301 > (978) 895-1912 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > Author of *The Low FODMAP Diet Step-by-Step* > > Visit our Community and Learn to Thrive! *FODMAPeveryday.com* > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I also have two Hitachi 1-TB disks I used with the machine I am trying to sell for $35 each ( https://www.newegg.com/hgst-travelstar-7k1000-1tb-hts721010a9e630/p/N82E16822145881?Item=N82E16822145881) Let me know if you are interested in buying the items. -Nathan nchung111 at gmail.com On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 9:27 PM explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Thanks to everyone who responded to my query about a data storage system. > Here are some comments in response: > > Roy: I am open to using FreeNAS and ZFS. But I don't have the hardware > yet. I think I should get the hardware first. I also really don't have > time to make this into a big learning project. Also, I want a physical > storage system, not a cloud based one. > > Rich: You wrote: "If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based > NAS" I have never even heard of this before. If it is a DIY project it > would probably take a lot of time, and I can't really afford that at this > point. > > Also, in another email you wrote: > > "Also, as was just pointed out to me, that effects Drobo - evidently > Drobo directly shipps units from China and are being effected by the > Coronavirus -- no idea who else or for how long this will be an issue -- > personally I'd pick the best unit for my needs and wait a bit." > > Unfortunately, I can't really wait. My laptop keyboard is all screwed up > and I am using an onscreen keyboard to type. I need to get this storage > system, get my data off and send out my laptop to MSI for repair. > > Rob Laporte: Ok. You recommend Synology (in another email). I will look > at/consider their units. > > Thanks, > > Vincent > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:47 PM < > hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Send Hidden-discuss mailing list submissions to >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/listinfo/hidden-discuss >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> hidden-discuss-owner at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Hidden-discuss digest..." >> >> >> ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group >> ** by filling out the survey/skills >> ** inventory in the member's area. >> ** Remember you must be counted to post . >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Mobile classroom rental (Aaron E-J) >> 2. Re: external hard drive system (Elijah Gwynn) >> 3. Re: external hard drive system (RA Cohen) >> 4. Re: external hard drive system (Rich at OTN) >> 5. QB (Anita Lockesmith) >> 6. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) >> 7. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:48:14 -0500 >> From: "Elijah Gwynn" >> To: "Rich at OTN" >> Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >> >> +1 for BSD-based system. If you've got some unix savvy, it's relatively >> easy to set up FreeBSD with ZFS in various RAID configs. It's also great >> for running your own local services if you want to get more out of your >> hardware. >> >> Eli >> >> On 24 Feb 2020, at 16:38, Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> > we also used Openfiler https://www.openfiler.com/ on a system (since >> > 2011) >> > And it has worked fine - clearly an NAS >> > >> > On 2/24/2020 3:03 PM, RA Cohen via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> >> >> I would strongly suggest you investigate FreeNAS at >> >> https://www.freenas.org/ >> >> >> >> OR, >> >> >> >> a small, properly configured BSD-based system with zfs storage pools >> >> would also be equivalent - it's just a matter of preference and >> >> possibly cost. >> >> >> >> Network Advantage could help you set up these kinds of NAS >> >> storage-servers, either physical or virtual in the cloud. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Network Advantage Associates >> >> Roy A Cohen CEO >> >> 413-223-9007 opt 1 >> >> >> >> Cloud Services >> >> >> >> Office 365 >> >> Disaster Recovery >> >> Cloud Desktops | Servers >> >> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations >> >> >> >> Traditional Services >> >> >> >> Security & Compliance >> >> Risk Assessment >> >> On / Off-Site Backups >> >> Standby Off-Site Servers >> >> Virtualization Solutions >> >> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance >> >> >> >> Net-Voice Phone Services >> >> >> >> System Upgrades >> >> Dramatic Cost Savings >> >> Unlimited Calling >> >> Advanced Feature Set >> >> Business Continuity >> >> >> >> On 2/24/20 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, >> >>> >> >>> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >> >>> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >> >>> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system >> >>> (example: >> >>> >> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >> >> >>> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >> >>> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >> >>> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >> >>> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >> >>> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, >> >>> but that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know >> >>> much about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get >> >>> NAS drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >> >>> >> >>> -Vincent >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >> >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >>> >> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> >>> list. >> >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> >> list. >> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> > >> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> > list. >> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/c6f9d127/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:56:29 -0500 >> From: RA Cohen >> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" >> >> Hi Kimo, again I recommend learning just a bit about ZFS - how it is >> considered by many the ultimate file system with origins in Sun >> Microsystems but still being actively developed and refined in the open >> source world. It is behind many commercial products. >> >> The ease and reliability of local snapshotting has saved my butt many >> times over. >> >> It also makes it relative simple to do a send | receive of block changes >> to a remote off-site server for backups. The operating systems with zfs >> support usually include rsync which further expands your options... >> >> ZFS is part of FreeBSD [underlying FreeNAS], and can also be implemented >> in Linux [although I cannot attest to its ruggedness there] >> >> IRC channels are great resources for ZFS support (and FreeBSD also). >> >> Here's an interesting read: >> https://itsfoss.com/freebsd-interview-deb-goodkin/ >> >> and >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/zfs.html >> >> I've installed FreeBSD on a large variety of hardware and use zfs with >> it extensively ... FreeNAS (or NAS4Free) is there if one wants a more >> appliance-like experience... >> >> Last thing - exporting and importing of zfs pools means one can take, >> for example, a pair of mirrored disks making up a zpool - and move them >> to another piece of completely different hardware - do a zpool import - >> and bingo!, you're ready to roll! >> >> Hope this is helpful, >> >> -Roy >> >> -- >> Network Advantage Associates >> Roy A Cohen CEO >> 413-223-9007 opt 1 >> >> Cloud Services >> >> Office 365 >> Disaster Recovery >> Cloud Desktops | Servers >> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations >> >> Traditional Services >> >> Security & Compliance >> Risk Assessment >> On / Off-Site Backups >> Standby Off-Site Servers >> Virtualization Solutions >> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance >> >> Net-Voice Phone Services >> >> System Upgrades >> Dramatic Cost Savings >> Unlimited Calling >> Advanced Feature Set >> Business Continuity >> >> On 2/25/20 9:46 AM, B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> > Hi HT, >> > >> > I?m also interested in a new local backup RAID system. A consultant I >> > work with suggested I look into Synology disk stations. Wondering >> > whether anyone has compared these two? >> > >> > Best, >> > Kimo >> > >> > >> > >> > On Feb 24, 2020, at 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss >> > > > > wrote: >> > >> >> Hi folks, >> >> >> >> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >> >> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >> >> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: >> >> >> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >> >> >> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >> >> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >> >> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >> >> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >> >> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but >> >> that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much >> >> about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS >> >> drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> -Vincent >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> >> >> >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> >> list. >> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> > >> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> list. >> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/61d33baf/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:00:58 -0500 >> From: "Rich at OTN" >> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> Now for a totally different idea >> >> If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based NAS >> There are variety of online detailed FAQ about how to build one. >> >> On quite review, they appear to be all based on using the 4 USB to >> connect the drives, which >> would effect the absolute speed -- but I've not looked further. >> >> Might be a good group project ;) >> >> -- >> Rich Roth >> CEO TnR Global >> >> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com >> Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com >> Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com >> And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com >> http://www.artonmytv.com/ >> Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 10 >> *********************************************** >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From explodingbee at gmail.com Wed Feb 26 21:12:51 2020 From: explodingbee at gmail.com (explodingbee .) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:12:51 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Nathan and Shel, Thank you for your input. Nathan: You wrote: *"It is actually work maintaining a NAS as you need to run updates and have it be in a stable secure location, ideally with UPS. That's something for you to think about." *I am not sure what you meant by that. I did not know anything about maintaining and updating a NAS and I don't know what UPS is (other than a delivery service). But it may not matter because I think I would rather use 3.5 inch drives and not the 2.5 inch ones, as I think the former are probably more robust and reliable in the long run. Also, your 1tb drives which you mentioned are not going to help me, as I want 10tb of storage space. So thanks for offering but I don't think I would want to purchase your items. Shel: I generally don't use the Mac OS so I don't think I could use the technique you mentioned. Thanks for letting me know that I did not copy Don in the previous email. But I called him earlier today and we talked at some length about this whole issue of me getting an external storage system. I am glad I spoke to him. Best regards, Vincent On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:01 PM Nathan Chung wrote: > Hi, > Sorry to join the conversation late. I actually have an older (around > 2018) Synology DS416Slim I am trying to sell for $175. It can fit four 2.5" > disks, but not full-size 3.5" disks. It is actually work maintaining a NAS > as you need to run updates and have it be in a stable secure location, > ideally with UPS. That's something for you to think about. I decided to > sell it and go with simpler cloud and the good-old USB external drives for > backups. The machine's pretty compact. It won't have the warranty as it is > not transferable. Synology basically wants you to buy it new from them. I > also have two Hitachi 1-TB disks I used with the machine I am trying to > sell for $35 each ( > https://www.newegg.com/hgst-travelstar-7k1000-1tb-hts721010a9e630/p/N82E16822145881?Item=N82E16822145881) Let > me know if you are interested in buying the items. > > -Nathan > nchung111 at gmail.com > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 9:27 PM explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Thanks to everyone who responded to my query about a data storage >> system. Here are some comments in response: >> >> Roy: I am open to using FreeNAS and ZFS. But I don't have the hardware >> yet. I think I should get the hardware first. I also really don't have >> time to make this into a big learning project. Also, I want a physical >> storage system, not a cloud based one. >> >> Rich: You wrote: "If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based >> NAS" I have never even heard of this before. If it is a DIY project it >> would probably take a lot of time, and I can't really afford that at this >> point. >> >> Also, in another email you wrote: >> >> "Also, as was just pointed out to me, that effects Drobo - evidently >> Drobo directly shipps units from China and are being effected by the >> Coronavirus -- no idea who else or for how long this will be an issue -- >> personally I'd pick the best unit for my needs and wait a bit." >> >> Unfortunately, I can't really wait. My laptop keyboard is all screwed up >> and I am using an onscreen keyboard to type. I need to get this storage >> system, get my data off and send out my laptop to MSI for repair. >> >> Rob Laporte: Ok. You recommend Synology (in another email). I will >> look at/consider their units. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Vincent >> >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:47 PM < >> hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >>> Send Hidden-discuss mailing list submissions to >>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/listinfo/hidden-discuss >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> hidden-discuss-owner at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Hidden-discuss digest..." >>> >>> >>> ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group >>> ** by filling out the survey/skills >>> ** inventory in the member's area. >>> ** Remember you must be counted to post . >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Mobile classroom rental (Aaron E-J) >>> 2. Re: external hard drive system (Elijah Gwynn) >>> 3. Re: external hard drive system (RA Cohen) >>> 4. Re: external hard drive system (Rich at OTN) >>> 5. QB (Anita Lockesmith) >>> 6. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) >>> 7. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:48:14 -0500 >>> From: "Elijah Gwynn" >>> To: "Rich at OTN" >>> Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >>> >>> +1 for BSD-based system. If you've got some unix savvy, it's relatively >>> easy to set up FreeBSD with ZFS in various RAID configs. It's also great >>> for running your own local services if you want to get more out of your >>> hardware. >>> >>> Eli >>> >>> On 24 Feb 2020, at 16:38, Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> >>> > we also used Openfiler https://www.openfiler.com/ on a system (since >>> > 2011) >>> > And it has worked fine - clearly an NAS >>> > >>> > On 2/24/2020 3:03 PM, RA Cohen via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I would strongly suggest you investigate FreeNAS at >>> >> https://www.freenas.org/ >>> >> >>> >> OR, >>> >> >>> >> a small, properly configured BSD-based system with zfs storage pools >>> >> would also be equivalent - it's just a matter of preference and >>> >> possibly cost. >>> >> >>> >> Network Advantage could help you set up these kinds of NAS >>> >> storage-servers, either physical or virtual in the cloud. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Network Advantage Associates >>> >> Roy A Cohen CEO >>> >> 413-223-9007 opt 1 >>> >> >>> >> Cloud Services >>> >> >>> >> Office 365 >>> >> Disaster Recovery >>> >> Cloud Desktops | Servers >>> >> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations >>> >> >>> >> Traditional Services >>> >> >>> >> Security & Compliance >>> >> Risk Assessment >>> >> On / Off-Site Backups >>> >> Standby Off-Site Servers >>> >> Virtualization Solutions >>> >> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance >>> >> >>> >> Net-Voice Phone Services >>> >> >>> >> System Upgrades >>> >> Dramatic Cost Savings >>> >> Unlimited Calling >>> >> Advanced Feature Set >>> >> Business Continuity >>> >> >>> >> On 2/24/20 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> >>> >>> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >>> >>> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >>> >>> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system >>> >>> (example: >>> >>> >>> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >>> >>> >>> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >>> >>> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >>> >>> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >>> >>> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >>> >>> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, >>> >>> but that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know >>> >>> much about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get >>> >>> NAS drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Vincent >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> >>> list. >>> >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >> >>> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> >> list. >>> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> > >>> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> > list. >>> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/c6f9d127/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:56:29 -0500 >>> From: RA Cohen >>> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" >>> >>> Hi Kimo, again I recommend learning just a bit about ZFS - how it is >>> considered by many the ultimate file system with origins in Sun >>> Microsystems but still being actively developed and refined in the open >>> source world. It is behind many commercial products. >>> >>> The ease and reliability of local snapshotting has saved my butt many >>> times over. >>> >>> It also makes it relative simple to do a send | receive of block changes >>> to a remote off-site server for backups. The operating systems with zfs >>> support usually include rsync which further expands your options... >>> >>> ZFS is part of FreeBSD [underlying FreeNAS], and can also be implemented >>> in Linux [although I cannot attest to its ruggedness there] >>> >>> IRC channels are great resources for ZFS support (and FreeBSD also). >>> >>> Here's an interesting read: >>> https://itsfoss.com/freebsd-interview-deb-goodkin/ >>> >>> and >>> >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/zfs.html >>> >>> I've installed FreeBSD on a large variety of hardware and use zfs with >>> it extensively ... FreeNAS (or NAS4Free) is there if one wants a more >>> appliance-like experience... >>> >>> Last thing - exporting and importing of zfs pools means one can take, >>> for example, a pair of mirrored disks making up a zpool - and move them >>> to another piece of completely different hardware - do a zpool import - >>> and bingo!, you're ready to roll! >>> >>> Hope this is helpful, >>> >>> -Roy >>> >>> -- >>> Network Advantage Associates >>> Roy A Cohen CEO >>> 413-223-9007 opt 1 >>> >>> Cloud Services >>> >>> Office 365 >>> Disaster Recovery >>> Cloud Desktops | Servers >>> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations >>> >>> Traditional Services >>> >>> Security & Compliance >>> Risk Assessment >>> On / Off-Site Backups >>> Standby Off-Site Servers >>> Virtualization Solutions >>> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance >>> >>> Net-Voice Phone Services >>> >>> System Upgrades >>> Dramatic Cost Savings >>> Unlimited Calling >>> Advanced Feature Set >>> Business Continuity >>> >>> On 2/25/20 9:46 AM, B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> > Hi HT, >>> > >>> > I?m also interested in a new local backup RAID system. A consultant I >>> > work with suggested I look into Synology disk stations. Wondering >>> > whether anyone has compared these two? >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > Kimo >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Feb 24, 2020, at 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss >>> > >> > > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi folks, >>> >> >>> >> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >>> >> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >>> >> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: >>> >> >>> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >>> >>> >> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >>> >> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >>> >> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >>> >> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >>> >> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, but >>> >> that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much >>> >> about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS >>> >> drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >>> >> >>> >> -Vincent >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> >> list. >>> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> > >>> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/61d33baf/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:00:58 -0500 >>> From: "Rich at OTN" >>> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>> >>> Now for a totally different idea >>> >>> If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based NAS >>> There are variety of online detailed FAQ about how to build one. >>> >>> On quite review, they appear to be all based on using the 4 USB to >>> connect the drives, which >>> would effect the absolute speed -- but I've not looked further. >>> >>> Might be a good group project ;) >>> >>> -- >>> Rich Roth >>> CEO TnR Global >>> >>> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com >>> Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com >>> Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com >>> And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com >>> http://www.artonmytv.com/ >>> Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 10 >>> *********************************************** >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nchung111 at gmail.com Wed Feb 26 21:34:54 2020 From: nchung111 at gmail.com (Nathan Chung) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:34:54 -0500 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good luck. Here are my answers. -UPS is uninterruptible power supply. It's kinda like a jacked-up surge protector with a battery inside. There are many different sizes. These make sure your system stays on during power outages and brownouts. -As a NAS runs its own operating system, it also comes with its own security vulnerabilities. It doesn't matter as much if you have it completely contained in your home network, but it matters a lot when you have it set up so you can access it from outside your network. -With spinning platter hard drives (the cheaper old-school drives), the size does affect the reliability as bigger ones spin slowly, leading to less wear and tear, but these consume a lot of electricity. With new SSD, solid-state drives, the size doesn't matter as much. These are extremely reliable, have no moving parts, and consumes much less power. Of course, you pay for that. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 4:13 PM explodingbee . wrote: > Hi Nathan and Shel, > > Thank you for your input. > > Nathan: You wrote: *"It is actually work maintaining a NAS as you need > to run updates and have it be in a stable secure location, ideally with > UPS. That's something for you to think about." *I am not sure what you > meant by that. I did not know anything about maintaining and updating a > NAS and I don't know what UPS is (other than a delivery service). But it > may not matter because I think I would rather use 3.5 inch drives and not > the 2.5 inch ones, as I think the former are probably more robust and > reliable in the long run. Also, your 1tb drives which you mentioned are > not going to help me, as I want 10tb of storage space. So thanks for > offering but I don't think I would want to purchase your items. > > Shel: I generally don't use the Mac OS so I don't think I could use the > technique you mentioned. Thanks for letting me know that I did not copy > Don in the previous email. But I called him earlier today and we talked at > some length about this whole issue of me getting an external storage > system. I am glad I spoke to him. > > Best regards, > > Vincent > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:01 PM Nathan Chung wrote: > >> Hi, >> Sorry to join the conversation late. I actually have an older (around >> 2018) Synology DS416Slim I am trying to sell for $175. It can fit four 2.5" >> disks, but not full-size 3.5" disks. It is actually work maintaining a NAS >> as you need to run updates and have it be in a stable secure location, >> ideally with UPS. That's something for you to think about. I decided to >> sell it and go with simpler cloud and the good-old USB external drives for >> backups. The machine's pretty compact. It won't have the warranty as it is >> not transferable. Synology basically wants you to buy it new from them. I >> also have two Hitachi 1-TB disks I used with the machine I am trying to >> sell for $35 each ( >> https://www.newegg.com/hgst-travelstar-7k1000-1tb-hts721010a9e630/p/N82E16822145881?Item=N82E16822145881) Let >> me know if you are interested in buying the items. >> >> -Nathan >> nchung111 at gmail.com >> >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 9:27 PM explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss < >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >>> Thanks to everyone who responded to my query about a data storage >>> system. Here are some comments in response: >>> >>> Roy: I am open to using FreeNAS and ZFS. But I don't have the hardware >>> yet. I think I should get the hardware first. I also really don't have >>> time to make this into a big learning project. Also, I want a physical >>> storage system, not a cloud based one. >>> >>> Rich: You wrote: "If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based >>> NAS" I have never even heard of this before. If it is a DIY project it >>> would probably take a lot of time, and I can't really afford that at this >>> point. >>> >>> Also, in another email you wrote: >>> >>> "Also, as was just pointed out to me, that effects Drobo - evidently >>> Drobo directly shipps units from China and are being effected by the >>> Coronavirus -- no idea who else or for how long this will be an issue -- >>> personally I'd pick the best unit for my needs and wait a bit." >>> >>> Unfortunately, I can't really wait. My laptop keyboard is all screwed >>> up and I am using an onscreen keyboard to type. I need to get this storage >>> system, get my data off and send out my laptop to MSI for repair. >>> >>> Rob Laporte: Ok. You recommend Synology (in another email). I will >>> look at/consider their units. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Vincent >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:47 PM < >>> hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Send Hidden-discuss mailing list submissions to >>>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/listinfo/hidden-discuss >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> hidden-discuss-request at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> hidden-discuss-owner at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Hidden-discuss digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group >>>> ** by filling out the survey/skills >>>> ** inventory in the member's area. >>>> ** Remember you must be counted to post . >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: Mobile classroom rental (Aaron E-J) >>>> 2. Re: external hard drive system (Elijah Gwynn) >>>> 3. Re: external hard drive system (RA Cohen) >>>> 4. Re: external hard drive system (Rich at OTN) >>>> 5. QB (Anita Lockesmith) >>>> 6. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) >>>> 7. Re: QB (Ira Bryck) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:48:14 -0500 >>>> From: "Elijah Gwynn" >>>> To: "Rich at OTN" >>>> Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >>>> Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >>>> >>>> +1 for BSD-based system. If you've got some unix savvy, it's relatively >>>> easy to set up FreeBSD with ZFS in various RAID configs. It's also >>>> great >>>> for running your own local services if you want to get more out of your >>>> hardware. >>>> >>>> Eli >>>> >>>> On 24 Feb 2020, at 16:38, Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>> >>>> > we also used Openfiler https://www.openfiler.com/ on a system (since >>>> > 2011) >>>> > And it has worked fine - clearly an NAS >>>> > >>>> > On 2/24/2020 3:03 PM, RA Cohen via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> I would strongly suggest you investigate FreeNAS at >>>> >> https://www.freenas.org/ >>>> >> >>>> >> OR, >>>> >> >>>> >> a small, properly configured BSD-based system with zfs storage pools >>>> >> would also be equivalent - it's just a matter of preference and >>>> >> possibly cost. >>>> >> >>>> >> Network Advantage could help you set up these kinds of NAS >>>> >> storage-servers, either physical or virtual in the cloud. >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Network Advantage Associates >>>> >> Roy A Cohen CEO >>>> >> 413-223-9007 opt 1 >>>> >> >>>> >> Cloud Services >>>> >> >>>> >> Office 365 >>>> >> Disaster Recovery >>>> >> Cloud Desktops | Servers >>>> >> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations >>>> >> >>>> >> Traditional Services >>>> >> >>>> >> Security & Compliance >>>> >> Risk Assessment >>>> >> On / Off-Site Backups >>>> >> Standby Off-Site Servers >>>> >> Virtualization Solutions >>>> >> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance >>>> >> >>>> >> Net-Voice Phone Services >>>> >> >>>> >> System Upgrades >>>> >> Dramatic Cost Savings >>>> >> Unlimited Calling >>>> >> Advanced Feature Set >>>> >> Business Continuity >>>> >> >>>> >> On 2/24/20 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>> >>> Hi folks, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >>>> >>> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >>>> >>> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system >>>> >>> (example: >>>> >>> >>>> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >>>> >>>> >>> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >>>> >>> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >>>> >>> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the >>>> two >>>> >>> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >>>> >>> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, >>>> >>> but that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know >>>> >>> much about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get >>>> >>> NAS drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> -Vincent >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>> >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >>> >>>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech >>>> Discussion >>>> >>> list. >>>> >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>> >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>> >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >> >>>> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>>> >> list. >>>> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>> >>>> >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> > >>>> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>>> > list. >>>> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/c6f9d127/attachment-0001.html >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 11:56:29 -0500 >>>> From: RA Cohen >>>> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >>>> Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" >>>> >>>> Hi Kimo, again I recommend learning just a bit about ZFS - how it is >>>> considered by many the ultimate file system with origins in Sun >>>> Microsystems but still being actively developed and refined in the open >>>> source world. It is behind many commercial products. >>>> >>>> The ease and reliability of local snapshotting has saved my butt many >>>> times over. >>>> >>>> It also makes it relative simple to do a send | receive of block >>>> changes >>>> to a remote off-site server for backups. The operating systems with zfs >>>> support usually include rsync which further expands your options... >>>> >>>> ZFS is part of FreeBSD [underlying FreeNAS], and can also be >>>> implemented >>>> in Linux [although I cannot attest to its ruggedness there] >>>> >>>> IRC channels are great resources for ZFS support (and FreeBSD also). >>>> >>>> Here's an interesting read: >>>> https://itsfoss.com/freebsd-interview-deb-goodkin/ >>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/zfs.html >>>> >>>> I've installed FreeBSD on a large variety of hardware and use zfs with >>>> it extensively ... FreeNAS (or NAS4Free) is there if one wants a more >>>> appliance-like experience... >>>> >>>> Last thing - exporting and importing of zfs pools means one can take, >>>> for example, a pair of mirrored disks making up a zpool - and move them >>>> to another piece of completely different hardware - do a zpool import - >>>> and bingo!, you're ready to roll! >>>> >>>> Hope this is helpful, >>>> >>>> -Roy >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Network Advantage Associates >>>> Roy A Cohen CEO >>>> 413-223-9007 opt 1 >>>> >>>> Cloud Services >>>> >>>> Office 365 >>>> Disaster Recovery >>>> Cloud Desktops | Servers >>>> Cloud Infrastructure - Migrations >>>> >>>> Traditional Services >>>> >>>> Security & Compliance >>>> Risk Assessment >>>> On / Off-Site Backups >>>> Standby Off-Site Servers >>>> Virtualization Solutions >>>> Remote Monitoring & Maintenance >>>> >>>> Net-Voice Phone Services >>>> >>>> System Upgrades >>>> Dramatic Cost Savings >>>> Unlimited Calling >>>> Advanced Feature Set >>>> Business Continuity >>>> >>>> On 2/25/20 9:46 AM, B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>> > Hi HT, >>>> > >>>> > I?m also interested in a new local backup RAID system. A consultant I >>>> > work with suggested I look into Synology disk stations. Wondering >>>> > whether anyone has compared these two? >>>> > >>>> > Best, >>>> > Kimo >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Feb 24, 2020, at 12:35 PM, explodingbee . via Hidden-discuss >>>> > >>> > > wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Hi folks, >>>> >> >>>> >> I want to purchase and set up a 10tb RAID1 external hard drive >>>> >> system.? (So that would be two 10tb hard drives mirroring each >>>> >> other.)? Someone suggested that I get a QNAP Tr-002 system (example: >>>> >> >>>> https://www.newegg.com/qnap-tr-002-us/p/N82E16822099076?Description=qnap%20tr-002&cm_re=qnap_tr-002-_-22-099-076-_-Product&quicklink=true). >>>> >>>> >> Does anyone know if that is a good system?? It is less expensive to >>>> >> get two independent single 10tb external hard drives and use a >>>> >> mirroring function available as part of Windows 10 to mirror the two >>>> >> drives but someone advised me not to trust Windows 10 to do that.? >>>> >> Also, I was thinking of getting SAS drives instead of NAS drives, >>>> but >>>> >> that is apparently a different types of system and I don't know much >>>> >> about that.? Any thoughts on these things?? Also, if I do get NAS >>>> >> drives, which ones are best?? Thanks in advance. >>>> >> >>>> >> -Vincent >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>> >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>>> >> list. >>>> >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>> >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>> >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> > >>>> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>>> list. >>>> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200225/61d33baf/attachment-0001.html >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2020 12:00:58 -0500 >>>> From: "Rich at OTN" >>>> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] external hard drive system >>>> Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Now for a totally different idea >>>> >>>> If you are into DIY -- explore a Rasperry PI based NAS >>>> There are variety of online detailed FAQ about how to build one. >>>> >>>> On quite review, they appear to be all based on using the 4 USB to >>>> connect the drives, which >>>> would effect the absolute speed -- but I've not looked further. >>>> >>>> Might be a good group project ;) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rich Roth >>>> CEO TnR Global >>>> >>>> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com >>>> Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com >>>> Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>> Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com >>>> And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com >>>> http://www.artonmytv.com/ >>>> Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> End of Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 10 >>>> *********************************************** >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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