From marla.s.michel at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 03:25:51 2020
From: marla.s.michel at gmail.com (Marla Michel)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 22:25:51 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Unusual(?) request for a computer
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR14MB30371F515A304B3A2E909C2BE5F50@MN2PR14MB3037.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
References: <010001760aa35471-5df17f0e-b54f-4592-b1e5-c26bc6dfb029-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <010001760b320662-c4444bb4-20e9-4670-9047-c21cd84332b1-000000@email.amazonses.com>
 <85b7faad-29cf-8e81-d56a-008dd3347bce@otherrealm.org>
 <MN2PR14MB30371F515A304B3A2E909C2BE5F50@MN2PR14MB3037.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
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Depending upon how long you needed it, you could also get a free trial
Azure subscription with a VM running Windows 10.
Create your Azure free account today | Microsoft Azure
<https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/free/>

Marla

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:33 PM Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> I have one with 10 on it, free. Was a powerful Windows raid server, like
> 10 years ago, upgraded some, converted to workstation. Monitor available
> too. I'm near Greenfield center.
>
> Take Care,
>
>
> Rob Laporte
>
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>
> *NOTE:* Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you
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> *From:* Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> on
> behalf of Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 27, 2020 5:50 PM
> *To:* hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Hidden-tech] Unusual(?) request for a computer
>
> If you have a windows 10 image/dvd you can use a virtual machine on VirtualBox.
> <https://www.virtualbox.org/>. You need a bit of storage space to install
> Windows but it is fairly easy to set up.
>
> Aaron E-J
> The Other Realmhttp://otherrealm.orghttp://theotherrealm.org (Blog)
>
> On 2020-11-27 2:33 PM, Matthew Crocker via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> Could you use an AWS workspace and run the USB remotely?
>
>
> https://aws.amazon.com/workspaces/?workspaces-blogs.sort-by=item.additionalFields.createdDate&workspaces-blogs.sort-order=desc
>
> On Nov 27, 2020, at 1:37 PM, bluemoon--- via Hidden-discuss
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
> ?
>
>
>
>
>
> I have an unusual request for a computer that doesn?t have to be fully
> functional.
>
>
> I need to use a program that will only run on Windows 10 which I can?t use
> on my current computer. As that is all I need to do I could use a computer
> that doesn?t have a working monitor as long as I can plug in an external
> one, doesn?t have working CD/DVD drive or wireless, although I might meet
> to plug in to internet with CAT-5, not sure, doesn?t have working track pad
> or keyboard as long as it has at least one working USB outlet so I can plug
> in external, I don?t need sound. Hard drive size also not an issue either I
> am thinking (the program and data only need about 2 Gigs), laptop with dead
> battery also fine as long as it will work plugged in. Doesn?t even have to
> be super fast as long as it will run Windows 10. I don?t know what else I
> am not thinking of right now that it might not need and I think you get the
> idea, it?s just for this one program.
>
>
> Anyone have one just sitting around from which you upgraded or replaced
> due to any of the above malfunctions?
>
> Oh, and I know all of the reasons I should upgrade to Windows 10 on my
> current machine and for reasons I won't detail here, that isn't going to
> work. Eventually I will get a new machine, fully featured and functional
> and that just isn't in the cards at the moment so for now I just want to
> get this project done.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
>
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From producer at wholehealthexpo.com  Tue Dec  1 22:44:28 2020
From: producer at wholehealthexpo.com (Jonathon Podolsky)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 17:44:28 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Critique Group Dec. 2
Message-ID: <CAALuos1-AAX2nqpoGZOFixi15qcjjJwSn7-+hBkOE=4P1tCC7A@mail.gmail.com>

Dear HT,

I know many of you work in film, in one way or another.

This free event is a great chance to stay connected and creative.

This Wed. 6:30pm Filmmaker Critique Group open to those who want to:
-show film/video you have made
-read from your screenplay
-practice a project pitch
-show a short video podcast
-or just watch what others have done and provide feedback

Please register for the meetup group ahead of time (it's free) and RSVP for
the event.

https://www.meetup.com/westernmassfilmmakers/

Best,
Jonathon
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From davidk at cs.umass.edu  Wed Dec  2 04:14:27 2020
From: davidk at cs.umass.edu (David Korpiewski)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 23:14:27 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Recommendations for a lawyer for child/school related
 issue
Message-ID: <07d63d4a-9b61-10fd-be7b-7375ae6ea9e2@cs.umass.edu>

I'm looking for recommendations for a lawyer who could help advise me on 
my rights as a parent.? The school where my son goes is giving me a hard 
time saying they won't give me the password for his school issued laptop 
even though he is only 15 years old.?? They won't even tell me what he 
is doing on it, but as a parent I sense warning signs that I need to 
know what is going on.

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Thank you

David


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From eli at egwynn.com  Wed Dec  2 17:39:40 2020
From: eli at egwynn.com (Elijah Gwynn)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 12:39:40 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Local iPad screen repair facilities
Message-ID: <8A00B05B-CE24-49E0-9D1B-C3340FDE7C75@egwynn.com>

I?ve got an iPad from 2012 (A1489 @ 32gb) that has started to see a lot more use in my house now that the family is doing more video calls. Its screen recently shattered and I?m looking to find someone who can replace it (glass + digitizer) relatively cheaply. I just got a quote from Yes Computers in NoHo for $175, but that?s a big fraction of the price of replacing the unit outright (they?re on eBay / Amazon refurbished for $200-$300). Replacement digitizers themselves are cheap on Amazon (~$20) but the replacement process looks daunting. Looking for suggestions on where I can take it for a better deal.

Any insights appreciated, thanks!
Eli

Sent from my iPhone

From shel at principledprofit.com  Wed Dec  2 18:34:39 2020
From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 13:34:39 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Local iPad screen repair facilities
In-Reply-To: <8A00B05B-CE24-49E0-9D1B-C3340FDE7C75@egwynn.com>
References: <8A00B05B-CE24-49E0-9D1B-C3340FDE7C75@egwynn.com>
Message-ID: <CADG-Mh2dimzvK9nh5zMmzQ0NJKiSeCtoBZx6_ngMJdtG8r-XqA@mail.gmail.com>

Check with Green Earth PC on crafts avenue in Northampton, between City
Hall and the bus station.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 12:39 PM Elijah Gwynn via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> I?ve got an iPad from 2012 (A1489 @ 32gb) that has started to see a lot
> more use in my house now that the family is doing more video calls. Its
> screen recently shattered and I?m looking to find someone who can replace
> it (glass + digitizer) relatively cheaply. I just got a quote from Yes
> Computers in NoHo for $175, but that?s a big fraction of the price of
> replacing the unit outright (they?re on eBay / Amazon refurbished for
> $200-$300). Replacement digitizers themselves are cheap on Amazon (~$20)
> but the replacement process looks daunting. Looking for suggestions on
> where I can take it for a better deal.
>
> Any insights appreciated, thanks!
> Eli
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From kiernan at greenearthpc.us  Wed Dec  2 20:19:49 2020
From: kiernan at greenearthpc.us (Kiernan Gulick-Sherrill)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 15:19:49 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Local iPad screen repair facilities
In-Reply-To: <8A00B05B-CE24-49E0-9D1B-C3340FDE7C75@egwynn.com>
References: <8A00B05B-CE24-49E0-9D1B-C3340FDE7C75@egwynn.com>
Message-ID: <CAAEi5V+q3x+NvJrv6O7BkB9xmzuLF4UR2MB62k7qrYFS+skN0w@mail.gmail.com>

Elijah,

Due to the labor involved with ipad repairs, they are pretty costly across
the board, even though the digitizer components themselves are reasonably
priced as you mentioned. We can definitely do a repair for you on that
ipad.  Full parts and labor is $117. (parts portion is about the same as
what youre seeing on amazon actually)

Thanks,

Kiernan Gulick-Sherrill

Pronouns: He/Him
Green Earth Computers - Computer & Smartphone Repair

20A Crafts Ave

Northampton, MA 01060

www.greenearthpc.us
413-282-8324


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On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:19 PM Elijah Gwynn via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> I?ve got an iPad from 2012 (A1489 @ 32gb) that has started to see a lot
> more use in my house now that the family is doing more video calls. Its
> screen recently shattered and I?m looking to find someone who can replace
> it (glass + digitizer) relatively cheaply. I just got a quote from Yes
> Computers in NoHo for $175, but that?s a big fraction of the price of
> replacing the unit outright (they?re on eBay / Amazon refurbished for
> $200-$300). Replacement digitizers themselves are cheap on Amazon (~$20)
> but the replacement process looks daunting. Looking for suggestions on
> where I can take it for a better deal.
>
> Any insights appreciated, thanks!
> Eli
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From aliassolutions at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 21:49:38 2020
From: aliassolutions at gmail.com (Paul Stallman)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 16:49:38 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Local iPad screen repair facilities
In-Reply-To: <CADG-Mh2dimzvK9nh5zMmzQ0NJKiSeCtoBZx6_ngMJdtG8r-XqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8A00B05B-CE24-49E0-9D1B-C3340FDE7C75@egwynn.com>
 <CADG-Mh2dimzvK9nh5zMmzQ0NJKiSeCtoBZx6_ngMJdtG8r-XqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKv03GMGW_C9v_84d9b-Ga4GGDEDMxR7js64syXQcB8Ty2_Jzg@mail.gmail.com>

PHYX in springfield is really reasonable for stuff like that.  He also
carry's a lot of used equipment if replacement is a better option.


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On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:34 PM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Check with Green Earth PC on crafts avenue in Northampton, between City
> Hall and the bus station.
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 12:39 PM Elijah Gwynn via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> I?ve got an iPad from 2012 (A1489 @ 32gb) that has started to see a lot
>> more use in my house now that the family is doing more video calls. Its
>> screen recently shattered and I?m looking to find someone who can replace
>> it (glass + digitizer) relatively cheaply. I just got a quote from Yes
>> Computers in NoHo for $175, but that?s a big fraction of the price of
>> replacing the unit outright (they?re on eBay / Amazon refurbished for
>> $200-$300). Replacement digitizers themselves are cheap on Amazon (~$20)
>> but the replacement process looks daunting. Looking for suggestions on
>> where I can take it for a better deal.
>>
>> Any insights appreciated, thanks!
>> Eli
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
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From chuttlinger at comcast.net  Thu Dec  3 15:57:02 2020
From: chuttlinger at comcast.net (Claire Huttlinger)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 10:57:02 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for iPad pro expert
Message-ID: <0D9076B4-FD82-4714-8195-F0A8C9928A73@comcast.net>

Greetings:
I just bought an ipad pro to use in teaching, but I can?t make it do what I want, and I don?t know why. I?m looking for someone who understands interacing bewteen and ipad pro and an older macbook pro. You?d think it would be easy, but I?m at a loss.
Thanks

Claire Huttlinger
translationspot.net
Florence, Ma


413 584 0609


From claudia at claudiagere.com  Sat Dec  5 16:54:43 2020
From: claudia at claudiagere.com (claudia at claudiagere.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 11:54:43 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Instagram Hack--is it phishing?
Message-ID: <050901d6cb27$5519de10$ff4d9a30$@ClaudiaGere.com>

When I opened my Instagram account on my iphone, I received a notice: "We
detected an Unusual login attempt" and two options, and I clicked on "this
wasn't me." The next screen asked for my "new password" and then "verify
password" but never asked for my current password. Which really feels like
phishing. So I didn't offer a new password or complete the request.

 

I then saw in my email account linked to Instagram a few similar notices
from different places in the world with a similar message:

"We Noticed a New Login, claudiagere0

We noticed a login from a device you don't usually use." 

 

There was a link, which looks official, but led to an invalid page notice
"This is not a valid link." I've added a space before .com so no one clicks
inadvertently if it is corrupt. 

https://instagram.com/accounts/password/reset/confirm/?uidb36=l4givs&token=B
o5FqK8IQM3oTumYKY2aU3k8KqKyQPqFQPhXd24H1l7lYU9QSll0H2SjHDirmb9s:password_res
et_email&v=1.3.4...0...0...2.5...1.1.6&s=login_notification_email

 

Do I go ahead and put in new password and confirm? Not sure if I have
anything to lose as I'm locked out anyway. Appreciate any shared experience
with this or suggestions. Thank you, Claudia

 

Claudia Gere & Co. LLC

Helping Smart People Become Outstanding Authors TM

http://tiny.cc/nameyourbook

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From rich at on-the-net.com  Sat Dec  5 19:07:00 2020
From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 14:07:00 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Instagram Hack--is it phishing?
In-Reply-To: <050901d6cb27$5519de10$ff4d9a30$@ClaudiaGere.com>
References: <050901d6cb27$5519de10$ff4d9a30$@ClaudiaGere.com>
Message-ID: <de35885e-00a8-1412-e385-c7b0cf895f3f@on-the-net.com>

Claudia,
Does sound like a bunch of phishing - I'd go to the normal instagram 
login - and click on the forgot password link.
It requires your current email tied to the account - which I'm sure 
you'll have seen from the myriad of emails instagram sends.
This way you know what comes in is a valid email from IG.

Good luck - Rich

On 12/5/2020 11:54 AM, claudia--- via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> When I opened my Instagram account on my iphone, I received a notice: 
> ?We detected an Unusual login attempt? and two options, and I clicked 
> on ?this wasn?t me.? The next screen asked for my ?new password? and 
> then ?verify password? but never asked for my current password. Which 
> really feels like phishing. So I didn?t offer a new password or 
> complete the request.
>
> I then saw in my email account linked to Instagram a few similar 
> notices from different places in the world with a similar message:
>
> ?We Noticed a New Login, claudiagere0
>
> We noticed a login from a device you don't usually use.?
>
> There was a link, which looks official, but led to an invalid page 
> notice ?This is not a valid link.? I?ve added a space before .com so 
> no one clicks inadvertently if it is corrupt.
>
> https://instagram.com/accounts/password/reset/confirm/?uidb36=l4givs&token=Bo5FqK8IQM3oTumYKY2aU3k8KqKyQPqFQPhXd24H1l7lYU9QSll0H2SjHDirmb9s:password_reset_email&v=1.3.4...0...0...2.5...1.1.6&s=login_notification_email
>
> Do I go ahead and put in new password and confirm? Not sure if I have 
> anything to lose as I?m locked out anyway. Appreciate any shared 
> experience with this or suggestions. Thank you, Claudia
>
> Claudia Gere & Co. LLC
>
> Helping Smart People Become Outstanding Authors TM
>
> http://tiny.cc/nameyourbook
>
> +1.413-359.0003
>
> ClaudiaGere.com
>
>
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From claudia at claudiagere.com  Sat Dec  5 20:51:16 2020
From: claudia at claudiagere.com (claudia at claudiagere.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 15:51:16 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Instagram Hack--is it phishing? Nope. It was legit
Message-ID: <00cb01d6cb48$60921ac0$21b65040$@claudiagere.com>

Turns out the request was legit from Instagram.though strange with broken
links, etc. I finally got to the actual login page on the website and they
recognized my computer, so it became clear they knew it was me and simply
asked me to reset my password. Sorry for the false alarm. Best, Claudia 

 

From: Claudia Gere <claudia at claudiagere.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 11:55 AM
To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
Subject: Instagram Hack--is it phishing?

 

When I opened my Instagram account on my iphone, I received a notice: "We
detected an Unusual login attempt" and two options, and I clicked on "this
wasn't me." The next screen asked for my "new password" and then "verify
password" but never asked for my current password. Which really feels like
phishing. So I didn't offer a new password or complete the request.

 

I then saw in my email account linked to Instagram a few similar notices
from different places in the world with a similar message:

"We Noticed a New Login, claudiagere0

We noticed a login from a device you don't usually use." 

 

There was a link, which looks official, but led to an invalid page notice
"This is not a valid link." I've added a space before .com so no one clicks
inadvertently if it is corrupt. 

https://instagram.com/accounts/password/reset/confirm/?uidb36=l4givs
<https://instagram.com/accounts/password/reset/confirm/?uidb36=l4givs&token=
Bo5FqK8IQM3oTumYKY2aU3k8KqKyQPqFQPhXd24H1l7lYU9QSll0H2SjHDirmb9s:password_re
set_email&v=1.3.4...0...0...2.5...1.1.6&s=login_notification_email>
&token=Bo5FqK8IQM3oTumYKY2aU3k8KqKyQPqFQPhXd24H1l7lYU9QSll0H2SjHDirmb9s:pass
word_reset_email&v=1.3.4...0...0...2.5...1.1.6&s=login_notification_email

 

Do I go ahead and put in new password and confirm? Not sure if I have
anything to lose as I'm locked out anyway. Appreciate any shared experience
with this or suggestions. Thank you, Claudia

 

Claudia Gere & Co. LLC

Helping Smart People Become Outstanding Authors TM

http://tiny.cc/nameyourbook

+1.413-359.0003

ClaudiaGere.com

 

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From shel at principledprofit.com  Sat Dec  5 22:06:41 2020
From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2020 17:06:41 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Instagram Hack--is it phishing?
In-Reply-To: <de35885e-00a8-1412-e385-c7b0cf895f3f@on-the-net.com>
References: <050901d6cb27$5519de10$ff4d9a30$@ClaudiaGere.com>
 <de35885e-00a8-1412-e385-c7b0cf895f3f@on-the-net.com>
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I agree with Rich. Use the official request-a-password reset, from your
logon page--NOT through email.

And for all of us--notice what's weird about "?We detected an Unusual login
attempt?

I detect an Unusual (and incorrect) capitalization--often a phishing red
flag.


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_________________________________________________



On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 2:07 PM Rich via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Claudia,
> Does sound like a bunch of phishing - I'd go to the normal instagram login
> - and click on the forgot password link.
> It requires your current email tied to the account - which I'm sure you'll
> have seen from the myriad of emails instagram sends.
> This way you know what comes in is a valid email from IG.
>
> Good luck - Rich
> On 12/5/2020 11:54 AM, claudia--- via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> When I opened my Instagram account on my iphone, I received a notice: ?We
> detected an Unusual login attempt? and two options, and I clicked on ?this
> wasn?t me.? The next screen asked for my ?new password? and then ?verify
> password? but never asked for my current password. Which really feels like
> phishing. So I didn?t offer a new password or complete the request.
>
>
>
> I then saw in my email account linked to Instagram a few similar notices
> from different places in the world with a similar message:
>
> ?We Noticed a New Login, claudiagere0
>
> We noticed a login from a device you don't usually use.?
>
>
>
> There was a link, which looks official, but led to an invalid page notice
> ?This is not a valid link.? I?ve added a space before .com so no one clicks
> inadvertently if it is corrupt.
>
>
> https://instagram.com/accounts/password/reset/confirm/?uidb36=l4givs&token=Bo5FqK8IQM3oTumYKY2aU3k8KqKyQPqFQPhXd24H1l7lYU9QSll0H2SjHDirmb9s:password_reset_email&v=1.3.4...0...0...2.5...1.1.6&s=login_notification_email
>
>
>
> Do I go ahead and put in new password and confirm? Not sure if I have
> anything to lose as I?m locked out anyway. Appreciate any shared experience
> with this or suggestions. Thank you, Claudia
>
>
>
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From markdhamill at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 00:41:38 2020
From: markdhamill at gmail.com (Mark D. Hamill)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 19:41:38 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Current hosting and registrar recommendations
Message-ID: <CAB22ZO9gZT6P4-NpXHdiq4L1v_boQf+FPX9FC8xhomq-d1T9rg@mail.gmail.com>

It seems every few years we swap hosting recommendations. Based on a
conversation a few years ago on this list, I chose Siteground and have been
reasonably happy with it, at least until recently.

Of course a good host depends on your needs. Shared hosting has worked
pretty well for me for my modest needs but I have used virtual private
servers in the past. In general, hosts seem to have upped their game with
shared hosting and I rarely encounter performance issues that I saw in the
past.

One of the big trends, which is affecting hosts like GoDaddy and
Siteground, is they are becoming virtual web hosts. GoDaddy is moving to
Amazon's cloud and Siteground to Google's. So presumably these hosts are
saving a lot of money because they aren't maintaining their own server
rooms. It's generally complicated to set up hosting in the cloud, so they
seem to add value by putting up pretty interfaces. Siteground had impressed
me with its all solid state infrastructure, but presumably all the major
cloud vendors are now solid state and since Siteground is virtual now (or
moving that way), it's not that big of a deal.

So looking at informed recommendations for shared and VPS web hosts in
particular. I'm a little prejudiced against virtual hosts, but I'm guessing
it's a trend that will only continue and at some point virtually all web
hosts will be virtual. I prefer hosts that build in value. Siteground, for
example, includes free Let's Encrypt certificates and their maintenance
built in. This seems to be becoming more standardized but curiously last I
checked GoDaddy doesn't do this.

I attended a podcamp in Boston last year. A representative from Dreamhost
talked about how they fought off legal efforts by the Trump administration
to make them monitor their servers proactively. I don't think they are a
virtual hosting company. Anyone have experiences with Dreamhost?

I do have one recommendation when it comes to registrars. I keep my
registrar separate from my hosting so I can quickly divorce hosts when
needed. I see registrars as commodities. I've been happy with namesilo.com.
They seem to be the cheapest out there and they throw in extras, like
privacy protection, for free. Most of my clients use GoDaddy and I think
their registrar services are obscenely priced. But I'm sure registrars are
going through changes too. It might be good to trade notes on registrars
too.

Thanks and I'm sure our discussion will be useful to many.

Mark
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From jeffehobbs at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 02:20:36 2020
From: jeffehobbs at gmail.com (Jeff Hobbs)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 21:20:36 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Current hosting and registrar recommendations
In-Reply-To: <CAB22ZO9gZT6P4-NpXHdiq4L1v_boQf+FPX9FC8xhomq-d1T9rg@mail.gmail.com>
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I love Dreamhost. I?ve been hosting a number of projects there for years,
and I?ve never had any major problems. It is still a ?PHP and MySQL? shop
in many ways, but they also offer many modern amenities as well.

I use hover as a domain registrar, however. Mainly because hover is very
good at it.

~Jeff

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:52 PM Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> It seems every few years we swap hosting recommendations. Based on a
> conversation a few years ago on this list, I chose Siteground and have been
> reasonably happy with it, at least until recently.
>
> Of course a good host depends on your needs. Shared hosting has worked
> pretty well for me for my modest needs but I have used virtual private
> servers in the past. In general, hosts seem to have upped their game with
> shared hosting and I rarely encounter performance issues that I saw in the
> past.
>
> One of the big trends, which is affecting hosts like GoDaddy and
> Siteground, is they are becoming virtual web hosts. GoDaddy is moving to
> Amazon's cloud and Siteground to Google's. So presumably these hosts are
> saving a lot of money because they aren't maintaining their own server
> rooms. It's generally complicated to set up hosting in the cloud, so they
> seem to add value by putting up pretty interfaces. Siteground had impressed
> me with its all solid state infrastructure, but presumably all the major
> cloud vendors are now solid state and since Siteground is virtual now (or
> moving that way), it's not that big of a deal.
>
> So looking at informed recommendations for shared and VPS web hosts in
> particular. I'm a little prejudiced against virtual hosts, but I'm guessing
> it's a trend that will only continue and at some point virtually all web
> hosts will be virtual. I prefer hosts that build in value. Siteground, for
> example, includes free Let's Encrypt certificates and their maintenance
> built in. This seems to be becoming more standardized but curiously last I
> checked GoDaddy doesn't do this.
>
> I attended a podcamp in Boston last year. A representative from Dreamhost
> talked about how they fought off legal efforts by the Trump administration
> to make them monitor their servers proactively. I don't think they are a
> virtual hosting company. Anyone have experiences with Dreamhost?
>
> I do have one recommendation when it comes to registrars. I keep my
> registrar separate from my hosting so I can quickly divorce hosts when
> needed. I see registrars as commodities. I've been happy with namesilo.com.
> They seem to be the cheapest out there and they throw in extras, like
> privacy protection, for free. Most of my clients use GoDaddy and I think
> their registrar services are obscenely priced. But I'm sure registrars are
> going through changes too. It might be good to trade notes on registrars
> too.
>
> Thanks and I'm sure our discussion will be useful to many.
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
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From lieberman.daniel52 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 10:36:45 2020
From: lieberman.daniel52 at gmail.com (Daniel Lieberman)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 02:36:45 -0800
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Current hosting and registrar recommendations
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Message-ID: <CADpaB1ZuCpESZfwsmZV-aY-bo35OT_K0vQb2GFqLzn_vZcr8Ow@mail.gmail.com>

I heartily second Jeff?s recommendation of Dreamhost+Hover.

d

On December 10, 2020 at 9:20:36 PM, Jeff Hobbs via Hidden-discuss (
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net) wrote:

>
> I love Dreamhost. I?ve been hosting a number of projects there for years,
> and I?ve never had any major problems. It is still a ?PHP and MySQL? shop
> in many ways, but they also offer many modern amenities as well.
>
> I use hover as a domain registrar, however. Mainly because hover is very
> good at it.
>
> ~Jeff
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:52 PM Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> It seems every few years we swap hosting recommendations. Based on a
>> conversation a few years ago on this list, I chose Siteground and have been
>> reasonably happy with it, at least until recently.
>>
>> Of course a good host depends on your needs. Shared hosting has worked
>> pretty well for me for my modest needs but I have used virtual private
>> servers in the past. In general, hosts seem to have upped their game with
>> shared hosting and I rarely encounter performance issues that I saw in the
>> past.
>>
>> One of the big trends, which is affecting hosts like GoDaddy and
>> Siteground, is they are becoming virtual web hosts. GoDaddy is moving to
>> Amazon's cloud and Siteground to Google's. So presumably these hosts are
>> saving a lot of money because they aren't maintaining their own server
>> rooms. It's generally complicated to set up hosting in the cloud, so they
>> seem to add value by putting up pretty interfaces. Siteground had impressed
>> me with its all solid state infrastructure, but presumably all the major
>> cloud vendors are now solid state and since Siteground is virtual now (or
>> moving that way), it's not that big of a deal.
>>
>> So looking at informed recommendations for shared and VPS web hosts in
>> particular. I'm a little prejudiced against virtual hosts, but I'm guessing
>> it's a trend that will only continue and at some point virtually all web
>> hosts will be virtual. I prefer hosts that build in value. Siteground, for
>> example, includes free Let's Encrypt certificates and their maintenance
>> built in. This seems to be becoming more standardized but curiously last I
>> checked GoDaddy doesn't do this.
>>
>> I attended a podcamp in Boston last year. A representative from Dreamhost
>> talked about how they fought off legal efforts by the Trump administration
>> to make them monitor their servers proactively. I don't think they are a
>> virtual hosting company. Anyone have experiences with Dreamhost?
>>
>> I do have one recommendation when it comes to registrars. I keep my
>> registrar separate from my hosting so I can quickly divorce hosts when
>> needed. I see registrars as commodities. I've been happy with
>> namesilo.com. They seem to be the cheapest out there and they throw in
>> extras, like privacy protection, for free. Most of my clients use GoDaddy
>> and I think their registrar services are obscenely priced. But I'm sure
>> registrars are going through changes too. It might be good to trade notes
>> on registrars too.
>>
>> Thanks and I'm sure our discussion will be useful to many.
>>
>> Mark
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>>
>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.
>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.
>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members
>>
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From shel at principledprofit.com  Fri Dec 11 13:18:00 2020
From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 08:18:00 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Current hosting and registrar recommendations
In-Reply-To: <CAB22ZO9gZT6P4-NpXHdiq4L1v_boQf+FPX9FC8xhomq-d1T9rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB22ZO9gZT6P4-NpXHdiq4L1v_boQf+FPX9FC8xhomq-d1T9rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADG-Mh3a8=b9oxKQ1D--0JLWih07PXqTiBnTPLOfgnks2C=UfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Like you, I have always kept my registration and my hosting at separate
companies. I register with GoDaddy, and host with HostGator. It just always
felt safer to have that split, and now you've given me a reason for my
intuition, one that makes perfect sense. I had one site with Siteground for
a year, on the strong recommendation of the web designer who set it up. I
saw no real difference in the performance, but when they tripled the price
after the first year was up, I left in disgust.

I have been pretty happy with HostGator.  Their tech support is excellent
and their uptime seems no worse than anyone else's. I think I've been with
them about 10 years, after using several other hosts for a few years each.

My needs are simpler than yours, Mark, so I have no need of fancy features.


Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"
________________________________________________
Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger,
poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change
* First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified
* Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame
* Certified speaker: International Platform Association
http://goingbeyondsustainability.com
mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388
Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books.
Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World
(co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)

Watch my TEDx Talk,
"Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"
http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809
(move your mouse to "event videos")
_________________________________________________

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:41 PM Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> It seems every few years we swap hosting recommendations. Based on a
> conversation a few years ago on this list, I chose Siteground and have been
> reasonably happy with it, at least until recently.
>
> Of course a good host depends on your needs. Shared hosting has worked
> pretty well for me for my modest needs but I have used virtual private
> servers in the past. In general, hosts seem to have upped their game with
> shared hosting and I rarely encounter performance issues that I saw in the
> past.
>
> One of the big trends, which is affecting hosts like GoDaddy and
> Siteground, is they are becoming virtual web hosts. GoDaddy is moving to
> Amazon's cloud and Siteground to Google's. So presumably these hosts are
> saving a lot of money because they aren't maintaining their own server
> rooms. It's generally complicated to set up hosting in the cloud, so they
> seem to add value by putting up pretty interfaces. Siteground had impressed
> me with its all solid state infrastructure, but presumably all the major
> cloud vendors are now solid state and since Siteground is virtual now (or
> moving that way), it's not that big of a deal.
>
> So looking at informed recommendations for shared and VPS web hosts in
> particular. I'm a little prejudiced against virtual hosts, but I'm guessing
> it's a trend that will only continue and at some point virtually all web
> hosts will be virtual. I prefer hosts that build in value. Siteground, for
> example, includes free Let's Encrypt certificates and their maintenance
> built in. This seems to be becoming more standardized but curiously last I
> checked GoDaddy doesn't do this.
>
> I attended a podcamp in Boston last year. A representative from Dreamhost
> talked about how they fought off legal efforts by the Trump administration
> to make them monitor their servers proactively. I don't think they are a
> virtual hosting company. Anyone have experiences with Dreamhost?
>
> I do have one recommendation when it comes to registrars. I keep my
> registrar separate from my hosting so I can quickly divorce hosts when
> needed. I see registrars as commodities. I've been happy with namesilo.com.
> They seem to be the cheapest out there and they throw in extras, like
> privacy protection, for free. Most of my clients use GoDaddy and I think
> their registrar services are obscenely priced. But I'm sure registrars are
> going through changes too. It might be good to trade notes on registrars
> too.
>
> Thanks and I'm sure our discussion will be useful to many.
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>
> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.
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From markdhamill at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 13:52:34 2020
From: markdhamill at gmail.com (Mark D. Hamill)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 08:52:34 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Current hosting and registrar recommendations
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I used to host with Hostgator but I noticed after they were bought by
Endurance International I had all sorts of issues and the tech support
became poor. That's when I moved to Siteground. Perhaps things have
changed, but Endurance International seems to be about buying and
consolidating web hosts so I avoid them.

On Siteground I've recently noticed I've hit some poorly documented
resource limitations like CPU seconds per month using their shared hosting.
It's worrisome because until recently hosting there has been a pleasure.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 8:18 AM Shel Horowitz <shel at principledprofit.com>
wrote:

> Like you, I have always kept my registration and my hosting at separate
> companies. I register with GoDaddy, and host with HostGator. It just always
> felt safer to have that split, and now you've given me a reason for my
> intuition, one that makes perfect sense. I had one site with Siteground for
> a year, on the strong recommendation of the web designer who set it up. I
> saw no real difference in the performance, but when they tripled the price
> after the first year was up, I left in disgust.
>
> I have been pretty happy with HostGator.  Their tech support is excellent
> and their uptime seems no worse than anyone else's. I think I've been with
> them about 10 years, after using several other hosts for a few years each.
>
> My needs are simpler than yours, Mark, so I have no need of fancy features.
>
>
> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"
> ________________________________________________
> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger,
> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change
> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified
> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame
> * Certified speaker: International Platform Association
> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com
> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388
> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books.
> Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World
> (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)
>
> Watch my TEDx Talk,
> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"
> http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809
> (move your mouse to "event videos")
> _________________________________________________
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:41 PM Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> It seems every few years we swap hosting recommendations. Based on a
>> conversation a few years ago on this list, I chose Siteground and have been
>> reasonably happy with it, at least until recently.
>>
>> Of course a good host depends on your needs. Shared hosting has worked
>> pretty well for me for my modest needs but I have used virtual private
>> servers in the past. In general, hosts seem to have upped their game with
>> shared hosting and I rarely encounter performance issues that I saw in the
>> past.
>>
>> One of the big trends, which is affecting hosts like GoDaddy and
>> Siteground, is they are becoming virtual web hosts. GoDaddy is moving to
>> Amazon's cloud and Siteground to Google's. So presumably these hosts are
>> saving a lot of money because they aren't maintaining their own server
>> rooms. It's generally complicated to set up hosting in the cloud, so they
>> seem to add value by putting up pretty interfaces. Siteground had impressed
>> me with its all solid state infrastructure, but presumably all the major
>> cloud vendors are now solid state and since Siteground is virtual now (or
>> moving that way), it's not that big of a deal.
>>
>> So looking at informed recommendations for shared and VPS web hosts in
>> particular. I'm a little prejudiced against virtual hosts, but I'm guessing
>> it's a trend that will only continue and at some point virtually all web
>> hosts will be virtual. I prefer hosts that build in value. Siteground, for
>> example, includes free Let's Encrypt certificates and their maintenance
>> built in. This seems to be becoming more standardized but curiously last I
>> checked GoDaddy doesn't do this.
>>
>> I attended a podcamp in Boston last year. A representative from Dreamhost
>> talked about how they fought off legal efforts by the Trump administration
>> to make them monitor their servers proactively. I don't think they are a
>> virtual hosting company. Anyone have experiences with Dreamhost?
>>
>> I do have one recommendation when it comes to registrars. I keep my
>> registrar separate from my hosting so I can quickly divorce hosts when
>> needed. I see registrars as commodities. I've been happy with
>> namesilo.com. They seem to be the cheapest out there and they throw in
>> extras, like privacy protection, for free. Most of my clients use GoDaddy
>> and I think their registrar services are obscenely priced. But I'm sure
>> registrars are going through changes too. It might be good to trade notes
>> on registrars too.
>>
>> Thanks and I'm sure our discussion will be useful to many.
>>
>> Mark
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>>
>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.
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>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.
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From aliassolutions at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 13:56:37 2020
From: aliassolutions at gmail.com (Paul Stallman)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 08:56:37 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Current hosting and registrar recommendations
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 7:41 PM Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> It seems every few years we swap hosting recommendations. Based on a
> conversation a few years ago on this list, I chose Siteground and have been
> reasonably happy with it, at least until recently.
>
> Of course a good host depends on your needs. Shared hosting has worked
> pretty well for me for my modest needs but I have used virtual private
> servers in the past. In general, hosts seem to have upped their game with
> shared hosting and I rarely encounter performance issues that I saw in the
> past.
>
> One of the big trends, which is affecting hosts like GoDaddy and
> Siteground, is they are becoming virtual web hosts. GoDaddy is moving to
> Amazon's cloud and Siteground to Google's. So presumably these hosts are
> saving a lot of money because they aren't maintaining their own server
> rooms. It's generally complicated to set up hosting in the cloud, so they
> seem to add value by putting up pretty interfaces. Siteground had impressed
> me with its all solid state infrastructure, but presumably all the major
> cloud vendors are now solid state and since Siteground is virtual now (or
> moving that way), it's not that big of a deal.
>
> So looking at informed recommendations for shared and VPS web hosts in
> particular. I'm a little prejudiced against virtual hosts, but I'm guessing
> it's a trend that will only continue and at some point virtually all web
> hosts will be virtual. I prefer hosts that build in value. Siteground, for
> example, includes free Let's Encrypt certificates and their maintenance
> built in. This seems to be becoming more standardized but curiously last I
> checked GoDaddy doesn't do this.
>
> I attended a podcamp in Boston last year. A representative from Dreamhost
> talked about how they fought off legal efforts by the Trump administration
> to make them monitor their servers proactively. I don't think they are a
> virtual hosting company. Anyone have experiences with Dreamhost?
>
> I do have one recommendation when it comes to registrars. I keep my
> registrar separate from my hosting so I can quickly divorce hosts when
> needed. I see registrars as commodities. I've been happy with namesilo.com.
> They seem to be the cheapest out there and they throw in extras, like
> privacy protection, for free. Most of my clients use GoDaddy and I think
> their registrar services are obscenely priced. But I'm sure registrars are
> going through changes too. It might be good to trade notes on registrars
> too.
>
> Thanks and I'm sure our discussion will be useful to many.
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
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From ped at me.com  Fri Dec 11 17:00:15 2020
From: ped at me.com (Philip Elmer)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 12:00:15 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Job for someone who can do database queries
Message-ID: <5732714F-3EA0-4EE8-9433-435D68F54A9A@me.com>

I?m looking for an estimate of how much it would cost to compare the property assessments with Zillow estimates for about 6,000 digitized property cards and create a list of the properties with the largest discrepancies, 

From rich at tnrglobal.com  Fri Dec 11 17:08:13 2020
From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 12:08:13 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Current hosting and registrar recommendations
In-Reply-To: <CAB22ZO9gZT6P4-NpXHdiq4L1v_boQf+FPX9FC8xhomq-d1T9rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB22ZO9gZT6P4-NpXHdiq4L1v_boQf+FPX9FC8xhomq-d1T9rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fe343ebf-fac2-ba7e-2287-985c5a188b09@tnrglobal.com>

Personally I am even more wary of services since I hosted my own 
accounts for many years, with Crocker and Amazon (AWS) when it first 
came out.
I have also been a domain reseller handling over 2,000 domains at our 
peak, about 10 years ago.
BTW still got lots of older junk servers to deal with - another story.

As such, I used Media Temple for a number of years until they were 
bought by GoDaddy and lived up to my great distaste for anything GoDaddy 
does.
For domains, we still have a reseller account with OpenSrs (originally) 
TuCows - and I actually handle a number of domains as pro-bono for local 
groups
because I found many organizations are notably lax in keeping up their 
registrations and hence lose their domains - since I still have an 
automated tracking system I can handle that easily -- in short, keeping 
domains and hosting separate is a very good idea.
For those using Hover, that is retail opensrs.

As for hosting, I moved to SiteGround with a 3 year deal at around 
$10/mon so far has been pretty good, I've got another year to go and see 
no reason to switch - what I did run into related to bandwidth caps was 
a mix of out of control spidering and/or attacks -- I had issues with 
the MT account being turned off because that activity overloaded their 
DB servers via the Wordpress (or Media Wiki) i mostly used.? The SG 
service had good traffic alerts but never stopped the account.

Net-Net: I had to keep my eyes on the robots.txt being updated and 
created an antiflood tracker I put in the index.php for each site -- 
that really stopped the issues.
 ?? (i'll post more about those if any interest)
Since SG monitor uses flash for their monitor they better get that 
updated, although it is cpanel so not sure who is really responsible.

Another alert - When SG moved to cloud hosting, they broke use of 
amazon's Elasticsearch -- it was security related and more than I can 
explain here,
however it didn't show up as an issue until reported by research users 
of Shakerpedia where it was a search function.
Net-net: very important to have independent monitoring in place, esp on 
unique features, so issues are highlighted no matter what hosting you 
are using.

SO: SG has worked for me, I'm running about 70 domains, virtual hosted 
on one , most of which are fairly old, with light traffic. They are 
simple, WP with one MediaWiki, and some custom -- it runs on what is 
now? GoGeek - although now about more 30% expensive -
 ??? multi-year (when you can find it) is much cheaper while a bit risky.
Other warnings, automatic upgrades, esp PHP or WP are nice but can break 
various functions, SG does a good job of allowing automatic or giving 
control, which still takes regular work but is safer. Some of the 
subtles of more complex systems can trip you up if you are not careful - 
I manage all sites using SSH keyed access, which is more than most web 
developers might like -- on the other hand it allows for more flexible 
scripting and configurations.

For those interested, HT list and some other custom services of mine is 
running on a Amazon tiny instance -- I've not seen any virtual hosting 
that can handle a mailman list with access I find I like.

Hope of this has been helpful - thanks all for contributing to Hidden 
Tech, have a Happy Holiday and above all Stay well
Rich

On 12/10/2020 7:41 PM, Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> It seems every few years we swap hosting recommendations. Based on a 
> conversation a few years ago on this list, I chose Siteground and have 
> been reasonably happy with it, at least until recently.
>
> Of course a good host depends on your needs. Shared hosting has worked 
> pretty well for me for my modest needs but I have used virtual private 
> servers in the past. In general, hosts seem to have upped their?game 
> with shared hosting and I rarely encounter performance issues that I 
> saw in the past.
>
> One of the big trends, which is affecting hosts like GoDaddy and 
> Siteground, is they are becoming virtual web hosts. GoDaddy is moving 
> to Amazon's cloud and Siteground to Google's. So presumably?these 
> hosts are saving a lot of money because they aren't maintaining their 
> own server rooms. It's generally complicated to set up hosting in the 
> cloud, so they seem to add value by putting up pretty interfaces. 
> Siteground had impressed me with its all solid state infrastructure, 
> but presumably all the major cloud vendors are now solid state and 
> since Siteground is virtual now (or moving that way), it's not that 
> big of a deal.
>
> So looking at informed recommendations for shared and VPS web hosts in 
> particular. I'm a little prejudiced against virtual hosts, but I'm 
> guessing it's a trend that will only continue and at some point 
> virtually all web hosts will be virtual. I prefer hosts that build in 
> value. Siteground, for example, includes free Let's Encrypt 
> certificates and their maintenance built in. This seems to be becoming 
> more standardized but curiously last I checked GoDaddy doesn't do this.
>
> I attended a podcamp in Boston last year. A representative from 
> Dreamhost talked about how they fought off legal efforts by the Trump 
> administration to make them monitor their servers proactively. I don't 
> think they are a virtual hosting company. Anyone have experiences with 
> Dreamhost?
>
> I do have one recommendation when it comes to registrars. I keep my 
> registrar separate from my hosting so I can quickly divorce hosts when 
> needed. I see registrars as commodities. I've been happy with 
> namesilo.com <http://namesilo.com>. They seem to be the cheapest out 
> there and they throw in extras, like privacy protection, for free. 
> Most of my clients use GoDaddy and I think their registrar services 
> are obscenely priced. But I'm sure registrars are going through 
> changes too. It might be good to trade notes on registrars too.
>
> Thanks and I'm sure our discussion will be useful to many.
>
> Mark
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From the at otherrealm.org  Sat Dec 12 17:12:37 2020
From: the at otherrealm.org (Aaron E-J)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 12:12:37 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] to Hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net
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Hi Joseph,
If you are still looking, colleges are probably one of the best bet 
places that would be getting rid of things.? When I was a student at 
Hampshire College, there were constantly old electronics being 
recycled.? Of course, it is a bit harder if you are doing remote 
learning and there are few people actually on campus given the pandemic, 
but in terms of local resources, the IT department at colleges (Five 
Colleges and STCC) is still probably your best bet.? I am not sure your 
use case, but if it is on the software end, really you can use any 
computer or virtual machine as a server.? I develop all my web apps 
using a Vagrant <https://www.vagrantup.com/>/VirtualBox 
<https://www.virtualbox.org/>/Docker <https://www.docker.com/>/Visual 
Studio Code <https://code.visualstudio.com/> local environment before I 
release them.? It takes a day or a few days to set up everything the 
first time but once you do, it saves a lot of time when you need to work 
on something new, because you can just copy all the config files from 
your last project and start a new virtual environment in minutes. Of 
course, if your doing something with hardware, that won't work.
Hope that helps,

Aaron E-J
The Other Realm
http://otherrealm.org
http://theotherrealm.org (Blog)

On 2020-11-28 5:14 PM, Joseph Connor via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I am an undergrad college student majoring in Computer Engineering. I 
> am looking for any server options that I can use from home. I did not 
> know if anyone out there had a setup that they are currently looking 
> to donate. From what I understand, companies have to upgrade their 
> server equipment every few years, and sometimes you can get lucky.
>
> Having a server setup could help me do an add-on honor course at my 
> current college and work on projects that I want to research while 
> forced to work remotely all online.
>
> If anyone out there can help me, my contact information is 
> jmconnor at student.stcc.edu/ <http://jmconnor at student.stcc.edu/> 
> 413-512-1244. Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
> Joseph M. Connor
>
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From owenfd at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 13:37:54 2020
From: owenfd at gmail.com (Owen Freeman-Daniels)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 08:37:54 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Recover data from unresponsive cell phone
Message-ID: <CAK95c56nGM3KtrTqNn-AZwXbRqxn2x+Ct_BpmBg3DSvGJU=yig@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
(First time/long time)

I have a Samsung S7 and it stopped turning on (after crashing for weeks).
While I managed to back up most of the data before that, there are still
some audio files on it I would like to retrieve. Is there anyone in the
area, or any mail-away vendor that you would recommend I employ for this
purpose?
Thank you,
Owen Freeman-Daniels
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From shel at principledprofit.com  Tue Dec 15 01:38:38 2020
From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:38:38 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] What's the best way to remove the sound from a video?
Message-ID: <CADG-Mh1USGiZWcxZS_ePNuxjE0OAjAh=o0+0C55Bfc7G2XRAaw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, folks,

I have two very short videos on my Moto X4 droid phone where the picture is
nice and the sound is a conversation that is not germane (actually
intrusive). I have both Mac and PC laptops with the built-in programs but
am not handy with video editing. What would you recommend as an easy,
non-technical way to extract just the video without the sound?

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From eli at egwynn.com  Tue Dec 15 04:37:32 2020
From: eli at egwynn.com (Elijah Gwynn)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:37:32 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] What's the best way to remove the sound from a
 video?
In-Reply-To: <CADG-Mh1USGiZWcxZS_ePNuxjE0OAjAh=o0+0C55Bfc7G2XRAaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADG-Mh1USGiZWcxZS_ePNuxjE0OAjAh=o0+0C55Bfc7G2XRAaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B82A45D-FE35-4C8A-9645-8AE4EDBF307E@egwynn.com>

Hey Shel,

Since at least macOS 10.15, The built-in QuickTime Player can do this.

[Instructions 
Here](https://support.apple.com/guide/quicktime-player/remove-audio-or-video-qtp5a44f7279/10.5/mac/10.15)

Eli

On 14 Dec 2020, at 20:38, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss wrote:

> Hi, folks,
>
> I have two very short videos on my Moto X4 droid phone where the 
> picture is
> nice and the sound is a conversation that is not germane (actually
> intrusive). I have both Mac and PC laptops with the built-in programs 
> but
> am not handy with video editing. What would you recommend as an easy,
> non-technical way to extract just the video without the sound?
>
> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"
> ________________________________________________
> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger,
> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change
> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified
> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame
> * Certified speaker: International Platform Association
> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com
> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388
> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books.
> Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World
> (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)
>
> Watch my TEDx Talk,
> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"
> http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809
> (move your mouse to "event videos")
> _________________________________________________


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From martha at ftllabscorp.com  Wed Dec 16 16:19:44 2020
From: martha at ftllabscorp.com (Martha Marteney)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 11:19:44 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] JOB: Engineering Software Developer
Message-ID: <CAAMDXQgg1d2WLJVoxZpWb8ZGz3isKx5B6P38T7BasM3HF7hbkA@mail.gmail.com>

*ABOUT THE POSITION:*


FTL Labs in Amherst, MA has recently been awarded an exciting 12 to
18-month program with the US Navy that employs cutting-edge image
acquisition, 3D modeling, and artificial intelligence to solve maintenance
and readiness challenges. We are seeking a full-time Engineering Software
Developer with technical software development skills for desktop and
Android platforms to address this specific challenge.


Relevant skills include the following:

   - C#, WPF, C++, SQL, Python
   - Machine vision, image processing, and target recognition
   - 3D graphics, modeling, transforms, and visualization
   - Mathematical modelling and algorithms (MATLAB, R)
   - Machine learning, neural nets, AI
   - Database and cloud architectures
   - Visualization and manipulation of large data sets
   - Photogrammetry, point clouds, and digitization of physical environments
   - Self-motivated and goal oriented
   - Fun and easy to work with in a dynamic team

Bachelor's degree or its equivalent with a minimum of 5 years of
experience. Due to the nature of our work for the U.S. Government, we are
required to hire U.S. Citizens. We apologize for not having more hiring
flexibility.

$62,000 to $95,000 Annually
401K, Dental, Life, Medical
Full-Time

Work from home will be necessary during COVID distancing restrictions and
could be acceptable generally.

FTL Labs is in the vibrant intellectual community of western Massachusetts,
close to the University of Massachusetts flagship campus and Amherst
College. Pay is commensurate with experience. We offer competitive
compensation and benefits, including excellent health and dental coverage,
short- and long-term disability, life insurance, profit-sharing, and 401k
with employer contribution. During the public health emergency all FTL
employees are telecommuting, and we look forward to returning to our office
in Amherst when we can ensure it will not endanger the health or safety of
our staff.

*APPLICATION INSTRUCTIONS:*

Please email your resume and 3 references (at least 2 professional
contacts) to kristie at ftllabscorp.com and mike at ftllabscorp.com.

*ABOUT FTL LABS:*

FTL Labs Corporation is a tight-knit association of Ph.D. scientists and
seasoned engineers who work to develop next-generation software and
technology products to solve problems for government and industrial
clients. FTL personnel have participated in Phase I, Phase II, and Phase
III Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) programs through the National
Science Foundation, Department of Defense, and NASA, and we strive to
transition these technologies to the market. We frequently collaborate with
both academic and industry leaders, such as UMass Amherst, Northrop Grumman
and Sikorsky. Our work demonstrates innovative thinking in a team setting
across a wide range of fields and specialties, including:

   - Machine learning, neural nets, and artificial intelligence
   - Expertise in optics, ultrasound, image analysis, robotics, and life
   sciences
   - Big data analysis, virtual and augmented reality
   - Custom software solutions

FTL Labs is an affirmative action-equal opportunity employer; veterans are
encouraged to apply.


We comply with all applicable federal, state and local laws regarding
recruitment and hiring. All qualified applicants are considered for
employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex, sexual
orientation, gender identity, national origin, disability, protected
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state, or local laws.

If you are a creative self-starter, technically innovative, and have
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From alan at 8wheels.org  Wed Dec 16 18:41:40 2020
From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:41:40 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Learning Redis
Message-ID: <5858d410e3e391dc875f29661d13dfb5@8wheels.org>

I am creating a hybrid local/AWS application in Python and would like to 
be able to access Redis on Elasticache both from a Lambda function and 
from my local code. I have no idea at all how to get started. I have 
done many web searches and have read all the AWS documentation I can 
find. I have found much information on configuration and setup, as well 
as information about Redis syntax (e.g., HSET, INCR) but nothing about 
APIs for actually making calls to execute these commands.  Stack 
Exchange has informed me that this type of problem is not appropriate 
there.

I'd appreciate any resources Hidden Techers might be able to provide.

--Alan

From alexkalish at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 20:30:29 2020
From: alexkalish at gmail.com (Alex Kalish)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:30:29 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Learning Redis
In-Reply-To: <5858d410e3e391dc875f29661d13dfb5@8wheels.org>
References: <5858d410e3e391dc875f29661d13dfb5@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <CAFdNQzYPXvTYXBpSVNRX+UDsCCQYQTC3bVhFWM16mp+cO7kD_g@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Alan,

Redis tends to be a pretty easy component to learn and use.  To get
started, I would suggest installing it locally.  If you have a Mac, it's
easy to get via Homebrew.  Then just jump into the CLI and start getting
and setting values.  Command docs are here <https://redis.io/commands>.
Their docs in general are usually pretty great.  If you are using this with
a Python app, I would be blown away if there wasn't an easy to use client
library.  As far as AWS goes, I would suggest using ElastiCache, which can
be powered by hosted/managed Redis nodes.  This way, no need to run the
service yourself.

Does that help at all?

Cheers,
Alex

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 3:21 PM Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> I am creating a hybrid local/AWS application in Python and would like to
> be able to access Redis on Elasticache both from a Lambda function and
> from my local code. I have no idea at all how to get started. I have
> done many web searches and have read all the AWS documentation I can
> find. I have found much information on configuration and setup, as well
> as information about Redis syntax (e.g., HSET, INCR) but nothing about
> APIs for actually making calls to execute these commands.  Stack
> Exchange has informed me that this type of problem is not appropriate
> there.
>
> I'd appreciate any resources Hidden Techers might be able to provide.
>
> --Alan
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From rob at crowbringsdaylight.com  Wed Dec 16 20:35:05 2020
From: rob at crowbringsdaylight.com (Robert Archer)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:35:05 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Learning Redis
In-Reply-To: <5858d410e3e391dc875f29661d13dfb5@8wheels.org>
References: <5858d410e3e391dc875f29661d13dfb5@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <A075F9ED-8621-48E6-8722-83E54954322A@crowbringsdaylight.com>

So you are looking to access a Redis store remotely?

Does Elasticache give you a uri and a way to authenticate?  You?ll need a host url of some type to start with.

> On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
> I am creating a hybrid local/AWS application in Python and would like to be able to access Redis on Elasticache both from a Lambda function and from my local code. I have no idea at all how to get started. I have done many web searches and have read all the AWS documentation I can find. I have found much information on configuration and setup, as well as information about Redis syntax (e.g., HSET, INCR) but nothing about APIs for actually making calls to execute these commands.  Stack Exchange has informed me that this type of problem is not appropriate there.
> 
> I'd appreciate any resources Hidden Techers might be able to provide.
> 
> --Alan
> _______________________________________________
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From alexkalish at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 14:49:54 2020
From: alexkalish at gmail.com (Alex Kalish)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:49:54 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Learning Redis
In-Reply-To: <fa273560522d5f7fba98adc053946ba5@8wheels.org>
References: <5858d410e3e391dc875f29661d13dfb5@8wheels.org>
 <CAFdNQzYPXvTYXBpSVNRX+UDsCCQYQTC3bVhFWM16mp+cO7kD_g@mail.gmail.com>
 <fa273560522d5f7fba98adc053946ba5@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <CAFdNQzayofgpYTd2DduM5oCReXspuNxinBGP8He-+5RSNQaxOQ@mail.gmail.com>

This looks like the canonical one:  https://github.com/andymccurdy/redis-py/
.

And yes, ElastiCache provides all the required connection details when
provisioning nodes.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 9:44 AM Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org> wrote:

> Alex,
>
> Thanks.  Yes, I agree with you that Redis is easy to learn and use and
> the command docs are pretty good.  And there is almost certainly a good
> client library to use with AWS Elasticache.  My hope is that someone
> will tell me how to find that library, because that's where my search
> efforts have broken down.
>
> --Alan
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Learning Redis
> Date: 16.12.2020 15:30
>  From: Alex Kalish <alexkalish at gmail.com>
> To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>
>
> Hey Alan,
>
> Redis tends to be a pretty easy component to learn and use.  To get
> started, I would suggest installing it locally.  If you have a Mac,
> it's easy to get via Homebrew.  Then just jump into the CLI and start
> getting and setting values.  Command docs are here [1].  Their docs in
> general are usually pretty great.  If you are using this with a Python
> app, I would be blown away if there wasn't an easy to use client
> library.  As far as AWS goes, I would suggest using ElastiCache, which
> can be powered by hosted/managed Redis nodes.  This way, no need to
> run the service yourself.
>
> Does that help at all?
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 3:21 PM Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
> > I am creating a hybrid local/AWS application in Python and would
> > like to
> > be able to access Redis on Elasticache both from a Lambda function
> > and
> > from my local code. I have no idea at all how to get started. I have
> >
> > done many web searches and have read all the AWS documentation I can
> >
> > find. I have found much information on configuration and setup, as
> > well
> > as information about Redis syntax (e.g., HSET, INCR) but nothing
> > about
> > APIs for actually making calls to execute these commands.  Stack
> > Exchange has informed me that this type of problem is not
> > appropriate
> > there.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any resources Hidden Techers might be able to
> > provide.
> >
> > --Alan
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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> Links:
> ------
> [1] https://redis.io/commands
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From kemipa at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 15:27:35 2020
From: kemipa at gmail.com (Keith Paul)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 10:27:35 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] SEO vendor
Message-ID: <CAJUMKbs39KCknyjJS_qeSdWCEyUaSbaQx9O0PNj2VbCFFPRC_w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Can anyone recommend a solid SEO vendor, or a freelancer with deep
experience?

Preference given to experience in higher ed.

Thanks!

Keith
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From rob at crowbringsdaylight.com  Thu Dec 17 15:30:38 2020
From: rob at crowbringsdaylight.com (Robert Archer)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 10:30:38 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Learning Redis
In-Reply-To: <5ed4f71f2d8cc1c38d0d17dd41fd57d3@8wheels.org>
References: <5858d410e3e391dc875f29661d13dfb5@8wheels.org>
 <A075F9ED-8621-48E6-8722-83E54954322A@crowbringsdaylight.com>
 <5ed4f71f2d8cc1c38d0d17dd41fd57d3@8wheels.org>
Message-ID: <0E9C9E6B-92A7-48C0-9765-D2967B10B584@crowbringsdaylight.com>

If you are using Django for python, there is a library called Huey that allows key/value stores on Redis, and is pretty easy to set up.  You?ll still need the URI information, because that is how any library will know where to access the Redis store.

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org> wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> 
> Yes, Elasticache does allow for access via a URI, and if nothing else shows up, I will try to make that work.  However, it seems to be quite complex, and there are client libraries for the other features I'm using (S3 and Lambda), so I am hoping to find something equally straightforward for Redis.
> 
> --Alan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Learning Redis
> Date: 16.12.2020 15:35
> From: Robert Archer <rob at crowbringsdaylight.com>
> To: Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org>
> 
> So you are looking to access a Redis store remotely?
> 
> Does Elasticache give you a uri and a way to authenticate?  You?ll
> need a host url of some type to start with.
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>> I am creating a hybrid local/AWS application in Python and would like to be able to access Redis on Elasticache both from a Lambda function and from my local code. I have no idea at all how to get started. I have done many web searches and have read all the AWS documentation I can find. I have found much information on configuration and setup, as well as information about Redis syntax (e.g., HSET, INCR) but nothing about APIs for actually making calls to execute these commands.  Stack Exchange has informed me that this type of problem is not appropriate there.
>> I'd appreciate any resources Hidden Techers might be able to provide.
>> --Alan
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.
>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
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> rob at crowbringsdaylight.com
> 413?522?7874
> Freelance Developer
> PHP, Python and Friends!

_______________________
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From Videatives at aol.com  Thu Dec 17 21:22:09 2020
From: Videatives at aol.com (George Forman)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 16:22:09 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Help swapping out Flash Player on website
References: <35F32706-F4F9-426E-B143-195FAAF2B082.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <35F32706-F4F9-426E-B143-195FAAF2B082@aol.com>

Dear Hidden Tech members,

As many of you know Adobe will soon stop support of Adobe Flash.  We use Adobe Flash on www.coachinthemirror.com <http://www.coachinthemirror.com/> to allow tennis students to see themselves as they practice tennis strokes.  Our site was developed on Rails.  I don?t think this swap out would be that difficult, but I am having trouble finding someone comfortable with Ruby on Rails.  Could someone out there take on this job or recommend someone to us.  

Thank you,

George Forman, co-founder
Coach in the Mirror
Amherst, Massachusetts
GEForman at aol.com
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From rich at tnrglobal.com  Sun Dec 20 17:39:24 2020
From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 12:39:24 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Maybe some one can help - at least locally
Message-ID: <bfcefb93-3fa8-6525-863c-8a766a0b644a@tnrglobal.com>

Should like a job for a super-techie -- any takers ??

It?s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to be 
Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been quietly 
rifling through since as far back as March in Washington?s worst 
cyberespionage failure on record.

... ?We have a serious problem. We don?t know what networks they are in, 
how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they left,? said 
Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and Harvard fellow. ...


https://apnews.com/article/hacking-russia-bafff5557a8941aa1a5ef239d36c4e28?fbclid=IwAR1MvOIpHUL8GrS2IE-g_hd6BY336St-00rQ-C4FRsngagVEDg9zmh6trhM

-- 
Rich Roth
CEO TnR Global

Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com
Building the really big sites:      http://www.tnrglobal.com
Small/Soho business in the PV:        http://www.hidden-tech.net
Places to meet for business:        http://www.meetmewhere.com
And for Arts and relaxation:
http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck
    http://www.welovemuseums.com
    http://www.artonmytv.com/
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From daniel.nachbar at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 20:39:57 2020
From: daniel.nachbar at gmail.com (Daniel Nachbar)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 15:39:57 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Maybe some one can help - at least locally
In-Reply-To: <bfcefb93-3fa8-6525-863c-8a766a0b644a@tnrglobal.com>
References: <bfcefb93-3fa8-6525-863c-8a766a0b644a@tnrglobal.com>
Message-ID: <CAJTa4G8sfN9pcggS_mGR2Kc0t4TjK_t_ouEj12P8oXz+mb8TWw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not a network security expert but I have discussed this topic with some.

Their consensus view is that there is essentially no way to effectively
scrub the compromised networks/machines. These are very sophisticated
attackers who had far too much access for far too long. Rebuilding from
scratch is likely the only effective response.

However such drastic remediation is almost impossible to sell to upper
management when there is no immediate evidence of compromise. Worse yet,
making the pitch to rebuild requires one to explain to upper management how
one totally screwed up in the first place.

So most victims will likely instead do some half-measure "security scans",
which will of course find nothing (because these are extremely
sophisticated attackers), and then just move on. Months or years from now
previously unidentified dormant worms will activate and the whole
compromise cycle will begin anew.

There is going to be a very, very long tail on this thing.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:39 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Should like a job for a super-techie -- any takers ??
>
> It?s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to be
> Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been quietly rifling
> through since as far back as March in Washington?s worst cyberespionage
> failure on record.
>
> ... ?We have a serious problem. We don?t know what networks they are in,
> how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they left,? said Bruce
> Schneier, a prominent security expert and Harvard fellow. ...
>
>
>
> https://apnews.com/article/hacking-russia-bafff5557a8941aa1a5ef239d36c4e28?fbclid=IwAR1MvOIpHUL8GrS2IE-g_hd6BY336St-00rQ-C4FRsngagVEDg9zmh6trhM
>
> --
> Rich Roth
> CEO TnR Global
>
> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com
> Building the really big sites:      http://www.tnrglobal.com
> Small/Soho business in the PV:        http://www.hidden-tech.net
> Places to meet for business:        http://www.meetmewhere.com
> And for Arts and relaxation:http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck
>    http://www.welovemuseums.com
>    http://www.artonmytv.com/
> Helping move the world:             http://www.earththrives.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
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From rob at 2disc.com  Mon Dec 21 12:41:14 2020
From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:41:14 +0000
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Maybe some one can help - at least locally
In-Reply-To: <CAJTa4G8sfN9pcggS_mGR2Kc0t4TjK_t_ouEj12P8oXz+mb8TWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bfcefb93-3fa8-6525-863c-8a766a0b644a@tnrglobal.com>,
 <CAJTa4G8sfN9pcggS_mGR2Kc0t4TjK_t_ouEj12P8oXz+mb8TWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR14MB30371DFE96FF16905BA3C496E5C00@MN2PR14MB3037.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Two to three years ago, I began prepping clients to expect increasing security risks and general tech complexity in websites and servers, via an advisory I copy below. While this was part of my firm's determination to extricate ourselves from website tech management to which search marketing firms are prone by mission creep, it was mostly to apprise them that

  1.  there is a big hidden cost on their balance sheets;
  2.  sooner or later that cost will hit their P&L;
  3.  they should start taking actions now to reduce that inevitable cost.

The recent web-wide WordPress hacks sadly confirmed my advisories. My first and repeated advisories on this trend provided some comfort that my firm continues its long history of anticipating crucial future changes. My firm now has comprehensive SEO-technical monitoring systems that identify website/server hacks immediately, thanks mostly to our tech & security partner, Nubbernaut Studios.

My point is that I believe that convincing businesses of the need for such an investment usually requires multiple messages over time, A few business leaders won't require this "Three-Hit Theory" of marketing messaging and will get it the first time.

Below is my original advisory from ~3 years ago, followed by an excellent, recent 7-minute video by my firm's CEO Jack Fox and Nubbernaut Studios, explaining the "7 layers" problem and solutions to one of our clients:


The 7 Layers of a Website

To understand why dedicated monthly website-tech management is vital, it helps to glimpse the connected layers beneath content managers? typical interactions with a website. I?ll use WordPress (WP) as an example, but this synopsis applies variously to all website platforms.

  1.  The top layer is where you add content.

  2.  Beneath that is a layer of plugins or other third-party apps and connections. This and the above layer often break when crucial WP upgrades are rolled out a few times per year.

  3.  Lower still is the database holding not only visible content in pages and posts, but also user profiles and passwords, client or customer logins, and variously secure connections to layers above and below.

  4.  Supporting the above layers and connecting to the server foundation is a tech management layer often called cPanel. It is open source and often upgraded automatically, and such upgrades can damage other layers and break automatic back-up systems. This layer often has entrances left over from past webmasters? work, via the likes of FTP. It also offers admin panels for most aspects of email management, domain name associations, and other vital functions of your website.

  5.  Some web hosts offer access to yet a deeper layer, often called WHM (Web Host Management). My recent spelunking there shows a byzantine array of settings often pre-set and sometimes changed willy-nilly by cheap hosting plans at the likes of GoDaddy. Options in this setup, like caching and CDN services, can have major impact on security, SEO, site speed, and other functions.

  6.  Finally, there?s the server itself, which is set-up by web hosts (or clients? in-house IT people). I?ve never been inside there, and just peering over the misty edge into that abyss is terrifying.

  7.  Another layer that wraps around all of the above is the human layer. People working in and on the site often unwittingly do damage, and, given the compounding complexity of websites, even excellent tech pros can make mistakes that impair function and SEO performance.


Those layers change over time, and sometimes, like tectonic plates, they can rupture, causing lots of screaming and running for help. One among many consequences is declining site speed, and Google is constantly making speed more of a ranking factor, never mind the vital role of speed in conversion rate optimization (CRO).


Video: Jack and Kevin September Hack and Site Security Packages for THS<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quwp7J8PqAo&feature=youtu.be>.


Take Care,


Rob Laporte

Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman

DISC - Making Websites Make Money

413-584-6500

rob at 2disc.com<mailto:rob at 2disc.com> | LinkedIn<https://www.linkedin.com/in/2disc/> | 2DISC.com<https://www.2disc.com>


NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call.


________________________________
From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> on behalf of Daniel Nachbar via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 3:39 PM
To: HT-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Cc: Daniel Nachbar <daniel.nachbar at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Maybe some one can help - at least locally

I'm not a network security expert but I have discussed this topic with some.

Their consensus view is that there is essentially no way to effectively scrub the compromised networks/machines. These are very sophisticated attackers who had far too much access for far too long. Rebuilding from scratch is likely the only effective response.

However such drastic remediation is almost impossible to sell to upper management when there is no immediate evidence of compromise. Worse yet, making the pitch to rebuild requires one to explain to upper management how one totally screwed up in the first place.

So most victims will likely instead do some half-measure "security scans", which will of course find nothing (because these are extremely sophisticated attackers), and then just move on. Months or years from now previously unidentified dormant worms will activate and the whole compromise cycle will begin anew.

There is going to be a very, very long tail on this thing.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:39 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net<mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote:

Should like a job for a super-techie -- any takers ??

It?s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to be Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been quietly rifling through since as far back as March in Washington?s worst cyberespionage failure on record.

... ?We have a serious problem. We don?t know what networks they are in, how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they left,? said Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and Harvard fellow. ...

https://apnews.com/article/hacking-russia-bafff5557a8941aa1a5ef239d36c4e28?fbclid=IwAR1MvOIpHUL8GrS2IE-g_hd6BY336St-00rQ-C4FRsngagVEDg9zmh6trhM


--
Rich Roth
CEO TnR Global

Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com
Building the really big sites:      http://www.tnrglobal.com
Small/Soho business in the PV:        http://www.hidden-tech.net
Places to meet for business:        http://www.meetmewhere.com
And for Arts and relaxation:
http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck
   http://www.welovemuseums.com
   http://www.artonmytv.com/
Helping move the world:             http://www.earththrives.com

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From alan at 8wheels.org  Mon Dec 21 20:07:03 2020
From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 15:07:03 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Maybe some one can help - at least locally
In-Reply-To: <CAJTa4G8sfN9pcggS_mGR2Kc0t4TjK_t_ouEj12P8oXz+mb8TWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bfcefb93-3fa8-6525-863c-8a766a0b644a@tnrglobal.com>
 <CAJTa4G8sfN9pcggS_mGR2Kc0t4TjK_t_ouEj12P8oXz+mb8TWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e54db8165dc10e75cc6b5a954190b4b5@8wheels.org>

I was listening to the radio yesterday and some prominent former member 
of the DT administration was saying that the affected organizations 
"would have to build new networks from the ground up."  So it is not 
just the engineers who will be pushing for that.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Maybe some one can help - at least locally
Date: 20.12.2020 15:39
 From: Daniel Nachbar via Hidden-discuss 
<hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
To: HT-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>

I'm not a network security expert but I have discussed this topic with
some.

Their consensus view is that there is essentially no way to
effectively scrub the compromised networks/machines. These are very
sophisticated attackers who had far too much access for far too long.
Rebuilding from scratch is likely the only effective response.

However such drastic remediation is almost impossible to sell to upper
management when there is no immediate evidence of compromise. Worse
yet, making the pitch to rebuild requires one to explain to upper
management how one totally screwed up in the first place.

So most victims will likely instead do some half-measure "security
scans", which will of course find nothing (because these are extremely
sophisticated attackers), and then just move on. Months or years from
now previously unidentified dormant worms will activate and the whole
compromise cycle will begin anew.

There is going to be a very, very long tail on this thing.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:39 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss
<hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Should like a job for a super-techie -- any takers ??
> 
> It?s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to
> be Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been
> quietly rifling through since as far back as March in Washington?s
> worst cyberespionage failure on record.
> 
> ... ?We have a serious problem. We don?t know what networks they
> are in, how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they
> left,? said Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and
> Harvard fellow. ...
> 
> 
https://apnews.com/article/hacking-russia-bafff5557a8941aa1a5ef239d36c4e28?fbclid=IwAR1MvOIpHUL8GrS2IE-g_hd6BY336St-00rQ-C4FRsngagVEDg9zmh6trhM
> 
> --
> Rich Roth
> CEO TnR Global
> 
> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com
> Building the really big sites:      http://www.tnrglobal.com
> Small/Soho business in the PV:        http://www.hidden-tech.net
> Places to meet for business:        http://www.meetmewhere.com
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From ncloverbrown at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 19:28:19 2020
From: ncloverbrown at gmail.com (Nick Clover-Brown)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:28:19 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
Message-ID: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm looking at getting a landline, primarily for emergencies, if our kid
needs to call 911.

Has anyone had success with alternatives to xfinity voice? It seems to be
$40 or $50, and i'm trying to find better value options - maybe a prepaid /
pay as you go provider.

VOIP could be an option, but looks a little more complicated , and reliant
on internet connection - is that right? Also seems to need a battery
backup.

Any recommendations would be appreciated!
Thanks,

Nick Clover-Brown
LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcloverbrown>
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From markdhamill at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 22:29:00 2020
From: markdhamill at gmail.com (Mark D. Hamill)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 17:29:00 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
In-Reply-To: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB22ZO8HV5m82k6Jv=CJd+6cZkYrn473C-dwDNoTN6ECJ73FaQ@mail.gmail.com>

If you use VOIP the service will be no better than your internet
connection. A true landline works on its own network and is in theory more
reliable.

I use Ooma for my landline, which is VOIP and have had virtually no issues
in the eight years we've had it. Since I work from home, it's my primary
phone number. It costs me about $6/month and I get unlimited long distance
calling in the USA. There is an upfront cost for the base station which is
about $70. 911 works by using your physical address and supposedly it
connects you with the correct 911 call center.

https://www.ooma.com/home-phone-service/

https://support.ooma.com/home/911-services/

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 5:04 PM Nick Clover-Brown via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking at getting a landline, primarily for emergencies, if our kid
> needs to call 911.
>
> Has anyone had success with alternatives to xfinity voice? It seems to be
> $40 or $50, and i'm trying to find better value options - maybe a prepaid /
> pay as you go provider.
>
> VOIP could be an option, but looks a little more complicated , and reliant
> on internet connection - is that right? Also seems to need a battery
> backup.
>
> Any recommendations would be appreciated!
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Clover-Brown
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcloverbrown>
> _______________________________________________
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From heller at deepsoft.com  Sun Dec 27 23:27:18 2020
From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 18:27:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
In-Reply-To: <CAB22ZO8HV5m82k6Jv=CJd+6cZkYrn473C-dwDNoTN6ECJ73FaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com> 
 <CAB22ZO8HV5m82k6Jv=CJd+6cZkYrn473C-dwDNoTN6ECJ73FaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20201227232718.CFB07221F52@sharky4.deepsoft.com>

At Sun, 27 Dec 2020 17:29:00 -0500 markdhamill at gmail.com wrote:

> 
> If you use VOIP the service will be no better than your internet
> connection. A true landline works on its own network and is in theory more
> reliable.

This actually depends on how well Verizon bothers to maintain the network.  
The existing copper local loops are not in partitular good condition, 
partitularly in the small rural towns.

> 
> I use Ooma for my landline, which is VOIP and have had virtually no issues
> in the eight years we've had it. Since I work from home, it's my primary
> phone number. It costs me about $6/month and I get unlimited long distance
> calling in the USA. There is an upfront cost for the base station which is
> about $70. 911 works by using your physical address and supposedly it
> connects you with the correct 911 call center.
> 
> https://www.ooma.com/home-phone-service/
> 
> https://support.ooma.com/home/911-services/
> 
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 5:04 PM Nick Clover-Brown via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm looking at getting a landline, primarily for emergencies, if our kid
> > needs to call 911.
> >
> > Has anyone had success with alternatives to xfinity voice? It seems to be
> > $40 or $50, and i'm trying to find better value options - maybe a prepaid /
> > pay as you go provider.
> >
> > VOIP could be an option, but looks a little more complicated , and reliant
> > on internet connection - is that right? Also seems to need a battery
> > backup.
> >
> > Any recommendations would be appreciated!
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nick Clover-Brown
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcloverbrown>
> > _______________________________________________
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From tommurray.us at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 23:53:03 2020
From: tommurray.us at gmail.com (Tom Murray)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 18:53:03 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] wikipedia editors?
Message-ID: <B749960E-CDB9-4B2A-AE88-F79AC46885CF@gmail.com>

Hi HTs.  I am writing for a friend (really!).  A semi-famous relative of hers has passed away and she wants to edit their wikipedia page but (apparently) needs to be a wikipedia "editor" to do that. I thought this list would be a good place to look for help. Is anyone here an editor and willing to help? I expect it would be like a 20-30 minute thing where she gives you the text to insert and you add it. 

thanks--happy holidays to all,
Tom

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From alan at 8wheels.org  Mon Dec 28 03:43:12 2020
From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 22:43:12 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] wikipedia editors?
In-Reply-To: <B749960E-CDB9-4B2A-AE88-F79AC46885CF@gmail.com>
References: <B749960E-CDB9-4B2A-AE88-F79AC46885CF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ad0d70a2d92304390d6211837b41a0a2@8wheels.org>

Anyone can edit (almost) any Wikipedia page; there is no need to be an 
approved "editor."  There is a small number of pages which are 
restricted due to vandalism; those can only be edited by experienced 
editors.  Who is her relative and what kind of changes is she looking to 
make?

--Alan




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Hidden-tech] wikipedia editors?
Date: 27.12.2020 18:53
 From: Tom Murray via Hidden-discuss 
<hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
To: Hidden-discuss <Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>

Hi HTs.  I am writing for a friend (really!).  A semi-famous relative
of hers has passed away and she wants to edit their wikipedia page but
(apparently) needs to be a wikipedia "editor" to do that. I thought
this list would be a good place to look for help. Is anyone here an
editor and willing to help? I expect it would be like a 20-30 minute
thing where she gives you the text to insert and you add it.

thanks--happy holidays to all,
Tom

===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===

Tom Murray, EdD

Knowing and Unknowing Reality (read it here [1])

Chief Visionary and Instigator @ Open Way Solutions ?
www.openwaysolutions.com [2]

Senior Research Fellow in Cognitive Tools, Educational Technology &
E-Dialogue  @ UMass Amherst ? www.tommurray.us [3]

575 Bridge Street #12-5, Florence,  MA 01062; c: 413.695-and-2800.


Links:
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[2] http://www.openwaysolutions.com
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From shel at principledprofit.com  Mon Dec 28 11:44:03 2020
From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 06:44:03 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
In-Reply-To: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADG-Mh1yMhOhqFFo319dwOUVBEV3TbsfvQOv-B+iAOEfB9cOGw@mail.gmail.com>

In Western Massachusetts, most towns give a monopoly to one company for
broadband landline phone. That would be either Xfinity or Spectrum,
formerly known as Comcast or Charter, respectively. Typically, they come as
part of a package that also includes internet and cable TV.

Your other options use different technologies, either satellite dish, dsl,
or an actual landline running over phone wire from Verizon.

The Verizon landline would not necessarily include internet and almost
certainly would not include television.

We have our package with Spectrum here in Hadley. After much effort, we
were able to get them to remove the TV portion of our package, which we
were not using, and save about $10 a month. The last few years, we really
have had no reason for complaint. Outages are rare, generally storm
related, and are fixed quickly almost every time.

I have not heard great things about the quality of Internet experience for
those who choose satellite or DSL.

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 2:28 PM Nick Clover-Brown via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking at getting a landline, primarily for emergencies, if our kid
> needs to call 911.
>
> Has anyone had success with alternatives to xfinity voice? It seems to be
> $40 or $50, and i'm trying to find better value options - maybe a prepaid /
> pay as you go provider.
>
> VOIP could be an option, but looks a little more complicated , and reliant
> on internet connection - is that right? Also seems to need a battery
> backup.
>
> Any recommendations would be appreciated!
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Clover-Brown
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcloverbrown>
> _______________________________________________
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From rob at 2disc.com  Mon Dec 28 13:39:29 2020
From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 13:39:29 +0000
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
In-Reply-To: <20201227232718.CFB07221F52@sharky4.deepsoft.com>
References: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAB22ZO8HV5m82k6Jv=CJd+6cZkYrn473C-dwDNoTN6ECJ73FaQ@mail.gmail.com>,
 <20201227232718.CFB07221F52@sharky4.deepsoft.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR14MB30375D75A40221C76DDE4517E5D90@MN2PR14MB3037.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All,

My firm moved to Vonage about 9 years ago, when it was one of if not the best, and it served well until about 3 years ago, when they underwent major restructuring to become a terrible provider to absolutely avoid. We researched others, and settled on what has proven first-rate: Intermedia Unity<https://www.intermedia.com/unite>, as setup by the superb local IT firm, Northeast IT<http://www.northeastit.net/> (NI). NI handles everything seamlessly, and the Unity platform has all you need: good app, mobile and desktop integration, phone (though upgrade to wireless handset version, and not sure if you can use your existing phones), and all kinds of integrations we have not explored yet, like CRM integration.

I should say that except during the last ~year, even the terrible Vonage was always available, since our Comcast Business internet connection almost never went down. One time it did go down because of line damage that would have taken down a landline if we had that.

I recall the NI/Unity package is $500 setup and $25/month. I cc'd Brian of NI to chime in here.


Take Care,


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Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:27 PM
To: markdhamill at gmail.com <markdhamill at gmail.com>
Cc: Nick Clover-Brown <ncloverbrown at gmail.com>; Hidden-Tech Tech <Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)

At Sun, 27 Dec 2020 17:29:00 -0500 markdhamill at gmail.com wrote:

>
> If you use VOIP the service will be no better than your internet
> connection. A true landline works on its own network and is in theory more
> reliable.

This actually depends on how well Verizon bothers to maintain the network.
The existing copper local loops are not in partitular good condition,
partitularly in the small rural towns.

>
> I use Ooma for my landline, which is VOIP and have had virtually no issues
> in the eight years we've had it. Since I work from home, it's my primary
> phone number. It costs me about $6/month and I get unlimited long distance
> calling in the USA. There is an upfront cost for the base station which is
> about $70. 911 works by using your physical address and supposedly it
> connects you with the correct 911 call center.
>
> https://www.ooma.com/home-phone-service/
>
> https://support.ooma.com/home/911-services/
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 5:04 PM Nick Clover-Brown via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm looking at getting a landline, primarily for emergencies, if our kid
> > needs to call 911.
> >
> > Has anyone had success with alternatives to xfinity voice? It seems to be
> > $40 or $50, and i'm trying to find better value options - maybe a prepaid /
> > pay as you go provider.
> >
> > VOIP could be an option, but looks a little more complicated , and reliant
> > on internet connection - is that right? Also seems to need a battery
> > backup.
> >
> > Any recommendations would be appreciated!
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nick Clover-Brown
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcloverbrown>
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From daniel.nachbar at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 21:59:06 2020
From: daniel.nachbar at gmail.com (Daniel Nachbar)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 16:59:06 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Maybe some one can help - at least locally
In-Reply-To: <e54db8165dc10e75cc6b5a954190b4b5@8wheels.org>
References: <bfcefb93-3fa8-6525-863c-8a766a0b644a@tnrglobal.com>
 <CAJTa4G8sfN9pcggS_mGR2Kc0t4TjK_t_ouEj12P8oXz+mb8TWw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAJTa4G88kEm9xerh2FR9iNCkb6=R6S=p6Rn1RW7XGQh9smdcKA@mail.gmail.com>

As a follow-up, here is a link to Bruce Schneier's more authoritative
assessment of the issue.
He concurs with my friends' conclusion that rebuilding from scratch,
aka "burning the network to the ground" is the most appropriate response.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/23/cyber-attack-us-security-protocols

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:07 PM Alan Frank <alan at 8wheels.org> wrote:

> I was listening to the radio yesterday and some prominent former member
> of the DT administration was saying that the affected organizations
> "would have to build new networks from the ground up."  So it is not
> just the engineers who will be pushing for that.
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Maybe some one can help - at least locally
> Date: 20.12.2020 15:39
>  From: Daniel Nachbar via Hidden-discuss
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> To: HT-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
>
> I'm not a network security expert but I have discussed this topic with
> some.
>
> Their consensus view is that there is essentially no way to
> effectively scrub the compromised networks/machines. These are very
> sophisticated attackers who had far too much access for far too long.
> Rebuilding from scratch is likely the only effective response.
>
> However such drastic remediation is almost impossible to sell to upper
> management when there is no immediate evidence of compromise. Worse
> yet, making the pitch to rebuild requires one to explain to upper
> management how one totally screwed up in the first place.
>
> So most victims will likely instead do some half-measure "security
> scans", which will of course find nothing (because these are extremely
> sophisticated attackers), and then just move on. Months or years from
> now previously unidentified dormant worms will activate and the whole
> compromise cycle will begin anew.
>
> There is going to be a very, very long tail on this thing.
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:39 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
> > Should like a job for a super-techie -- any takers ??
> >
> > It?s going to take months to kick elite hackers widely believed to
> > be Russian out of the U.S. government networks they have been
> > quietly rifling through since as far back as March in Washington?s
> > worst cyberespionage failure on record.
> >
> > ... ?We have a serious problem. We don?t know what networks they
> > are in, how deep they are, what access they have, what tools they
> > left,? said Bruce Schneier, a prominent security expert and
> > Harvard fellow. ...
> >
> >
>
> https://apnews.com/article/hacking-russia-bafff5557a8941aa1a5ef239d36c4e28?fbclid=IwAR1MvOIpHUL8GrS2IE-g_hd6BY336St-00rQ-C4FRsngagVEDg9zmh6trhM
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From rich at on-the-net.com  Tue Dec 29 21:44:39 2020
From: rich at on-the-net.com (Rich)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:44:39 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
In-Reply-To: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fe7b58da-5040-c179-43dc-7e291ab3f6da@on-the-net.com>

We have kept a land line for much the same reasons, the cost from 
Verizon comes in at about $50/mon unless you can qualify for the senior 
discount,
and that is with no long distance service.
We moved all our other numbers to Google Fi or google voice.

As for the need for this -- yes a landline (yes, POTS - plain old 
telephone service) with an dial or touchtone phone -- if you have or can 
find one,
will work even if the power goes down.

SO it depends on where you live --
do you expect that you and the area will lose power long enough for a 
cel phone to run out of power AND
the cel towers to be out of service -- or are you out of town far enough 
not to rely on cel phone ??
Personally I would trust the cel more than VIOP

Frankly, we have found cel service to be reliable enough with an usb 
extra battery to be fine.
And in the last 10 years we've had a few ER visits and a birth out of 
the 6 of us who live together and are close to mid-town Greenfield.

KInda depends on your location. budget and any likely medical issues

Stay well all - Rich

On 12/27/2020 2:28 PM, Nick Clover-Brown via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking at getting a landline, primarily for emergencies, if our 
> kid needs to call 911.
>
> Has anyone had success with alternatives to xfinity voice? It seems to 
> be $40 or $50, and i'm trying to find better value options - maybe a 
> prepaid / pay as you go provider.
>
> VOIP could be an option, but looks a little more complicated , and 
> reliant on internet connection - is that right? Also seems to need a 
> battery backup.
>
> Any recommendations would be appreciated!
> Thanks,
>
> Nick Clover-Brown
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcloverbrown>
>
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From heller at deepsoft.com  Tue Dec 29 23:08:40 2020
From: heller at deepsoft.com (Robert Heller)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:08:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
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At Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:44:39 -0500 Rich <rich at on-the-net.com> wrote:

> 
> We have kept a land line for much the same reasons, the cost from 
> Verizon comes in at about $50/mon unless you can qualify for the senior 
> discount,
> and that is with no long distance service.
> We moved all our other numbers to Google Fi or google voice.
> 
> As for the need for this -- yes a landline (yes, POTS - plain old 
> telephone service) with an dial or touchtone phone -- if you have or can 
> find one,
> will work even if the power goes down.

So long as Verizon maintains the batteries.  Verizon has already abandened 
some already -- I know that the batteries in the concentrator in New Salem has 
expired batteries that Verizon cannot (or will not) replace, so the people of 
New Salem will lose phone service whenever the power goes out.

> 
> SO it depends on where you live --
> do you expect that you and the area will lose power long enough for a 
> cel phone to run out of power AND
> the cel towers to be out of service -- or are you out of town far enough 
> not to rely on cel phone ??
> Personally I would trust the cel more than VIOP
> 
> Frankly, we have found cel service to be reliable enough with an usb 
> extra battery to be fine.
> And in the last 10 years we've had a few ER visits and a birth out of 
> the 6 of us who live together and are close to mid-town Greenfield.
> 
> KInda depends on your location. budget and any likely medical issues
> 
> Stay well all - Rich
> 
> On 12/27/2020 2:28 PM, Nick Clover-Brown via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm looking at getting a landline, primarily for emergencies, if our 
> > kid needs to call 911.
> >
> > Has anyone had success with alternatives to xfinity voice? It seems to 
> > be $40 or $50, and i'm trying to find better value options - maybe a 
> > prepaid / pay as you go provider.
> >
> > VOIP could be an option, but looks a little more complicated , and 
> > reliant on internet connection - is that right? Also seems to need a 
> > battery backup.
> >
> > Any recommendations would be appreciated!
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nick Clover-Brown
> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcloverbrown>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net
> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> >
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> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
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From jwerner at jwdp.com  Tue Dec 29 23:49:44 2020
From: jwerner at jwdp.com (Jan Werner)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:49:44 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
In-Reply-To: <fe7b58da-5040-c179-43dc-7e291ab3f6da@on-the-net.com>
References: <CAG4Xfp_hZcOMoRLTyxKoe+YHzdx9ak0Sg+N03FuGiuvgbJ9nxA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <cb8dba68-866f-99ab-abf2-011a15724c96@jwdp.com>

If you have any kind of cell service at home, a cell phone is definitely 
the best choice for emergency purposes.

Restoring power to cell towers in emergencies is the now highest 
priority because most emergency services depend on cellular service. 
POTS will continue to work in a power outage, but conditions that take 
out power lines can also take down phone lines or fry switch boxes. For 
less than $50, you can buy enough Li-Ion power banks to keep a cell 
phone going for several weeks.

Cell phones also provide your actual location to emergency services, 
even outside your house. Landlines depend on the current address of the 
subscriber being known to authorities. VOIP provides no location 
information at all unless you subscribe to an emergency service, which 
may or may not be included in your VOIP plan.

If the main purpose is to allow a child to call 911, I?d suggest a flip 
or feature phone rather than a smart phone. Look for phones designed for 
the elderly, many of which are good choices for young kids too, and they 
can often be set up to make it very easy to call 911 or other emergency 
numbers of your choice.

Jan Werner
___________

On 12/29/2020 4:44 PM, Rich via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> We have kept a land line for much the same reasons, the cost from 
> Verizon comes in at about $50/mon unless you can qualify for the senior 
> discount,
> and that is with no long distance service.
> We moved all our other numbers to Google Fi or google voice.
> 
> As for the need for this -- yes a landline (yes, POTS - plain old 
> telephone service) with an dial or touchtone phone -- if you have or can 
> find one,
> will work even if the power goes down.
> 
> SO it depends on where you live --
> do you expect that you and the area will lose power long enough for a 
> cel phone to run out of power AND
> the cel towers to be out of service -- or are you out of town far enough 
> not to rely on cel phone ??
> Personally I would trust the cel more than VIOP
> 
> Frankly, we have found cel service to be reliable enough with an usb 
> extra battery to be fine.
> And in the last 10 years we've had a few ER visits and a birth out of 
> the 6 of us who live together and are close to mid-town Greenfield.
> 
> KInda depends on your location. budget and any likely medical issues
> 
> Stay well all - Rich
> 
> On 12/27/2020 2:28 PM, Nick Clover-Brown via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm looking at getting a landline, primarily for emergencies, if our 
>> kid needs to call 911.
>>
>> Has anyone had success with alternatives to xfinity voice? It seems to 
>> be $40 or $50, and i'm trying to find better value options - maybe a 
>> prepaid / pay as you go provider.
>>
>> VOIP could be an option, but looks a little more complicated , and 
>> reliant on internet connection - is that right? Also seems to need a 
>> battery backup.
>>
>> Any recommendations would be appreciated!
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nick Clover-Brown
>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcloverbrown>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net
>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>>
>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.
>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members
>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.
>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members
> 
> -- 
> Lots of online work,
> rizbang.com - ideas and history
> tnrglobal.com - Business
> greenfieldsfuture.org - local
> 
> 
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From mommanina35 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 01:48:28 2020
From: mommanina35 at gmail.com (Nina Fischer)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 20:48:28 -0500
Subject: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR14MB30375D75A40221C76DDE4517E5D90@MN2PR14MB3037.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MN2PR14MB30375D75A40221C76DDE4517E5D90@MN2PR14MB3037.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <B423F221-0E76-42D5-A76E-B5B9CB923B4A@gmail.com>

We like Ooma too though it?s not a true land line. It?s VoIP. It?s primary purpose these days seems to be to use it to call
Our cellphones when we can?t find them 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi All,
> 
> My firm moved to Vonage about 9 years ago, when it was one of if not the best, and it served well until about 3 years ago, when they underwent major restructuring to become a terrible provider to absolutely avoid. We researched others, and settled on what has proven first-rate: Intermedia Unity, as setup by the superb local IT firm, Northeast IT (NI). NI handles everything seamlessly, and the Unity platform has all you need: good app, mobile and desktop integration, phone (though upgrade to wireless handset version, and not sure if you can use your existing phones), and all kinds of integrations we have not explored yet, like CRM integration. 
> 
> I should say that except during the last ~year, even the terrible Vonage was always available, since our Comcast Business internet connection almost never went down. One time it did go down because of line damage that would have taken down a landline if we had that. 
> 
> I recall the NI/Unity package is $500 setup and $25/month. I cc'd Brian of NI to chime in here.
> 
> Take Care,
> 
> Rob Laporte
> Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman
> DISC - Making Websites Make Money
> 413-584-6500
> rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn | 2DISC.com
> 
> NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call.
> 
> From: Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> on behalf of Robert Heller via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 6:27 PM
> To: markdhamill at gmail.com <markdhamill at gmail.com>
> Cc: Nick Clover-Brown <ncloverbrown at gmail.com>; Hidden-Tech Tech <Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Landline options (south deerfield)
>  
> At Sun, 27 Dec 2020 17:29:00 -0500 markdhamill at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > 
> > If you use VOIP the service will be no better than your internet
> > connection. A true landline works on its own network and is in theory more
> > reliable.
> 
> This actually depends on how well Verizon bothers to maintain the network.  
> The existing copper local loops are not in partitular good condition, 
> partitularly in the small rural towns.
> 
> > 
> > I use Ooma for my landline, which is VOIP and have had virtually no issues
> > in the eight years we've had it. Since I work from home, it's my primary
> > phone number. It costs me about $6/month and I get unlimited long distance
> > calling in the USA. There is an upfront cost for the base station which is
> > about $70. 911 works by using your physical address and supposedly it
> > connects you with the correct 911 call center.
> > 
> > https://www.ooma.com/home-phone-service/
> > 
> > https://support.ooma.com/home/911-services/
> > 
> > On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 5:04 PM Nick Clover-Brown via Hidden-discuss <
> > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm looking at getting a landline, primarily for emergencies, if our kid
> > > needs to call 911.
> > >
> > > Has anyone had success with alternatives to xfinity voice? It seems to be
> > > $40 or $50, and i'm trying to find better value options - maybe a prepaid /
> > > pay as you go provider.
> > >
> > > VOIP could be an option, but looks a little more complicated , and reliant
> > > on internet connection - is that right? Also seems to need a battery
> > > backup.
> > >
> > > Any recommendations would be appreciated!
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Nick Clover-Brown
> > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickcloverbrown>
> > > _______________________________________________
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