[Hidden-tech] The Other Job Fair

Fri Sep 27 00:55:26 UTC 2019

I like it. If you have these ideas sufficiently fleshed out, there may be a
book in it. Does the word "holon" relate to "holocracy"?

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On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:26 PM Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

>             This discussion of the need to work for less than a fair wage
> got me thinking of an idea I had a while back.  The idea is a kind of
> 'jobs fair' that would be open to anyone, and anyone who attended would be
> either guaranteed a job or funding for a startup.  The amount of time
> that people spend competing for: first a college degree, then a job, then
> maybe funding for a business idea, is enormous.  It can often result in
> needing to compromise your moral principles and spend most of your time
> doing things in areas you are not passionate about.  Constantly needing
> to be judged and being told that you are not as good as someone else who
> got the job you wanted, puts a tremendous toll on your wellbeing and desire
> to interact with others.  On the other side, someone looking to hire the
> right person has to spend a considerable amount of time wading through tons
> of applicants before eventually arriving at someone you actually want to
> hire.  And if you have an ounce of empathy, constantly needing to turn
> people down because they are not the right fit feels horrible.
>
>             The way I conceived of the 'job fair' working would be in two
> stages.
>
>             The first stage would be a sign up and stakeholder gathering
> phase.  Job seekers would fill out an online form detailing their skills
> and interests and any ideas for solutions to unsolved problems they had.  Employers
> (worker coops and businesses that agree to not throw their employees under
> the proverbial bus if the job does not work out) would sign up and agree to
> employ people to work *with* them and not *for* them.  Business investors
> and venture capitalists would sign up and work on forming business ideas
> with people who do not see an existing role with any of the existing
> business that are hiring.
>
>             Then the second stage would be the actual conference where
> everyone gets to know each other and job seekers and job fillers seek
> mutual skills and interests.  The people who do not have career goals and
> skills in line with those being sought, and those with business ideas they
> are looking to actualize, would work with the business investors and
> venture capitalists.  Together, they would form new worker cooperative
> businesses around the solutions previously identified in the first stage
> that everyone on the table can get behind.  These cooperatives would act
> as holons <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)>, each
> independent entities, but with the ability to utilize each other's
> resources to some extent.  There would also be a buffer fund established
> that all the cooperatives earning a positive income would contribute to and
> those needing a more income could draw from.  The way the investors would
> get compensated is that they would be seen as one of the cooperatives.  If
> the investors want to withdraw some of their investment, their financial
> balance would be negative and therefore a proportion of the buffer fund
> will go to them.  This siphoning of money to an investor will only
> continue until a previously agreed upon return on investment is achieved or
> the person invests more money back into the system.  Because the
> contribution will only be a portion of the *profit*, if some or all
> cooperatives are not earning a profit, they will not need to contribute to
> the buffer.  Obviously exact details will need to be worked out when more
> people get involved, but that is the general way I am envisioning the
> financing working.  It may also make sense to involve colleges and others
> in the education sphere.  They could be seen as business investors.  Although
> they may not be providing financial support, they can still provide
> significant resources and as a result have a share of the profit.  However,
> the exact nature of their compensation would need to be figured out because
> education is rarely easily quantifiable.
>
>             The important point in all this is that people are not
> competing – there would be the explicit edict that no one is left out and
> no one is forced to do things they have no desire to do (of course it may
> be necessary for some people to do undesired tasks, but these tasks should
> be for the purpose of fulfilling desired goals).
>             What do people think of this idea and is anyone interested in
> working on it with me?  I would not be surprised if we could get some
> grant funding to get the ball rolling.
>
>
> Aaron E-J
> The Other Realm LLChttp://otherrealm.orghttp://theotherrealm.org (Blog)
>
> On 2019-09-26 2:30 PM, Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> Ha! Our replies came in at the same time, Todd. Are you still involved
> with the Graphic Artists Guild?
>
> Deb
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 1:56 PM Todd LeMieux <todd at toddlemieux.com> wrote:
>
>> Great replies, and I completely agree.
>>
>> I really haven’t seen this in any other industry outside of creative
>> services (designers, web developers, photographers, musicians, etc)
>> “contests” to get essentially free work (and usually underpaid, for the
>> “winner”, if there is any payment involved). It’s just plain wrong.
>>
>> Deb, your point is a valid comparison. Imagine having a similar contest
>> for bookkeeping services, or for legal representation? You get the point.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Todd
>>
>> -------------------
>>
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>> 413.237.6869
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>> On September 26, 2019 at 1:43:29 PM, Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss (
>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net) wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jessica,
>>
>> I agree with Rich. If your business is a profit-making business which
>> offers services to help people thrive, then paying for graphic design
>> services are helping a qualified graphic designer to "thrive".
>>
>> What you have proposed is called "spec work", where you are only willing
>> to pay for a "winning" design. This spec work is frowned upon in the
>> graphic design industry. Imagine you sit down at a restaurant and you ask
>> them to serve you 6 different dishes, you try each one, and only pay for
>> the one you found tasty. You would never do that. Not many professions deal
>> with this issue the way creatives do. And the Graphic Artists Guild, among
>> others, speak up about it, have worked on Pricing and Ethical Guidelines
>> (PEGS) for just these types of issues, and support their members as they
>> adhere to these industry guidelines.
>>
>> You may be unaware of this issue, you may have seen other people do
>> contests like this and thought it was okay to do. But please be aware that
>> it is not accepted in our industry, and I for one, kindly request that you
>> choose to hire a qualified graphic designer and negotiate fees that pay
>> them a good rate for their good work. If you are not familiar with this
>> hiring process, how to choose a qualified designer, I am sure there are
>> many folks here who can help you out with that, and some will be willing to
>> quote on your project and provide trusted advice on various aspects of the
>> process through to completion.
>>
>> Best on this project,
>> Deb
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:27 AM Jessica Gifford via Hidden-discuss <
>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm running a design contest for the back and box of a customized deck
>>> of *Connection Cards*, which are used in a program that helps
>>> participants get to know new people, build social connections, and develop
>>> friendships. Each card has a question that participants answer as part of
>>> the program. There will be a $150 prize for the winning design. You may
>>> email jessica at growingwellness.life for entry guidelines. Please pass
>>> along to anyone who may be interested.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Jessica Gifford, LICSW
>>> www.growingwellness.life
>>> 413-548-4688
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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