Kris, I've always likened the idea of these skills being too easy to be paid their worth as being seen as simple as coloring. What I don't get is if they clearly see these skills as so simplified it requires little to no pay, why don't they just do it themselves? I am, by no means, implying that is the case here. Good/great designers cost money, and I completely understand the overwhelming weight of the costs any organization, or individual lacking the funds, can be. Denise On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM kris badertscher via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > As a media and communications/graphic designer, I found this *contest* to > be incredibly disrespectful to the ever-expanding community of pioneer > valley creatives who so often have to go against their better judgement and > take work either pro bono (hoping that it leads to paid a gig), for barter, > or for slave-wage labor just in order to pay a bill. > > This cultivated western Massachusetts mentality of bargaining for free or > underpaid labor predominates in this region where creative workers are > consistently being taken advantage of because so few opportunities present > themselves. > > Whether it's photography, video, graphic design, or another skilled > creative endeavor, other professionals in the Valley seem to think that > these skills require nothing more than just a press of a button. Or maybe > they do know and understand that having a subscription to Adobe or > Microsoft products or other applications, plus equipment and training in > order to make their designs for clients are outrageously expensive and they > don't care. Because right, there's always the bounty of students to hire > willing to put up with unpaid labor early in their careers. > > This mindset hurts all of us. We all then have to accept underpaid labor > as an exploited community in order to survive, never mind *thrive*. What > results is that no one outside the creative community gets a sense of what > a project *actually* costs which repeats this unethical cycle. > > Living in the age of wanting something for (nearly) nothing is doing > everyone a disservice and my recommendation is to first research the market > and know how much a particular job costs. And please consider the cost- not > just of what you are offering in exchange for labor or products, but the > cost to all of us who live with the consequences of that mindset. > > Cheers, Kris > > sustainabilitydesigner.com > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 12:36 PM Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> You do realize that that amounts for barely 4 hours of a reasonable wage >> for a graphic artist >> and that only goes to the winner -- really doesn't sound in line with >> your company name. >> >> I'd hope to see something more, maybe at least a percent of sales >> OR just hire an artist. >> >> Think about it. >> On 9/20/2019 6:37 AM, Jessica Gifford via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm running a design contest for the back and box of a customized deck >> of *Connection Cards*, which are used in a program that helps >> participants get to know new people, build social connections, and develop >> friendships. Each card has a question that participants answer as part of >> the program. There will be a $150 prize for the winning design. You may >> email jessica at growingwellness.life for entry guidelines. Please pass >> along to anyone who may be interested. >> >> Thanks! >> Jessica >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Jessica Gifford, LICSW >> www.growingwellness.life >> 413-548-4688 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20190926/b28a27e2/attachment-0001.html>