From stacy at swampdancer.com Tue Oct 1 17:57:50 2019 From: stacy at swampdancer.com (Stacy Kontrabecki) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 13:57:50 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] want a 17" PowerBook G4 battery? Message-ID: <6e4c6c14-22ae-37fc-af24-ee712392a540@swampdancer.com> Going through my office and found an old? 17" PowerBook G4 rechargeable battery. Do you want it? -- Stacy Kontrabecki From dana at littlecatmetals.com Tue Oct 1 18:08:33 2019 From: dana at littlecatmetals.com (dana at littlecatmetals.com) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:08:33 -0700 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Artist friendly accountant recommendations Message-ID: <20191001110833.94abb6e9d12553f9fe7817f68ebb5ef4.6670b8cf20.wbe@email13.godaddy.com> Hi folks, Any recommendations for an artist friendly accountant would be appreciated. A micro-business that is growing and looking for some advice (move to an LLC from DBA), planning, and understanding that with recent growth things are a bit "messy"at the moment. If possible assistance in personal taxes is also needed. Quickbooks has been implemented and being learned. Thanks so much and happy fall, Dana Dana Hunt Project Wrangler, Happiness Coordinator, & Apprentice Metalsmith dana at littlecatmetals.com (413) 275-2865 From tommurray.us at gmail.com Wed Oct 2 15:27:51 2019 From: tommurray.us at gmail.com (Tom Murray) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:27:51 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for real estate closing attourney Message-ID: Hi all, I hate to post a question I feel must have been asked a dozen times in the past, but a google searches of xxxx site:hidden-tech.net did not find anything in the HT archives... Looking for recommendations for a Valley real estate attorney who is no-frills/inexpensive with home owner sales closing stuff. thanks, Tom ===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---=== Tom Murray, EdD Knowing and Unknowing Reality (read it here ) Chief Visionary and Instigator @ Open Way Solutions ? www.openwaysolutions.com Senior Research Fellow in Cognitive Tools, Educational Technology & E-Dialogue @ UMass Amherst ? www.tommurray.us 36 Fruit Street, Northampton MA 01060; phone: is413-then-695-and-2800. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duncan at gismatters.com Wed Oct 2 16:44:33 2019 From: duncan at gismatters.com (Chris Duncan, GISmatters) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 18:44:33 +0200 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for real estate closing attourney In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I haven't shopped around recently so I don't know if he's "inexpensive", but I've been happily using the straightforward services of Bob Spencer at Jankowski & Spencer (RJS at jsamherst.com) for several real estate purchases and sales over the past 15 years. Chris On 10/2/19 5:27 PM, Tom Murray via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi all, > I hate to post a question I feel must have been asked a dozen times in > the past, but a google searches of xxxx site:hidden-tech.net > did not find anything in the HT archives... > > Looking for recommendations for a Valley real estate attorney who is > no-frills/inexpensive with home owner sales closing stuff. > > thanks, Tom > > ===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---=== > > Tom Murray, EdD > > Knowing and Unknowing Reality (read it here > ) > > Chief Visionary?and Instigator @ Open Way Solutions ? > www.openwaysolutions.com > > Senior Research Fellow in Cognitive Tools, Educational Technology & > E-Dialogue ?@ UMass Amherst ? www.tommurray.us > > 36 Fruit Street, Northampton MA 01060; phone: is413-then-695-and-2800. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -- Chris Duncan, Ph.D. President, GISmatters duncan at gismatters.com http://www.gismatters.com/ Tel: +1 413.549.2052 Fax: +1 413.658.0346 1 Tuckerman Ln Amherst, MA 01002 From noah at born-digital.com Wed Oct 2 17:59:32 2019 From: noah at born-digital.com (Noah Smith) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 13:59:32 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for real estate closing attourney In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll second Bob Spencer. -- Noah W. Smith, Founder + CEO. Pronouns: he/him/his. Scheduling a meeting with me? View my availability *Born-Digital *| 84 Russell St, Hadley MA | phone: 413-259-6777 | born-digital.com On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:37 PM Chris Duncan, GISmatters via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I haven't shopped around recently so I don't know if he's "inexpensive", > but I've been happily using the straightforward services of Bob Spencer > at Jankowski & Spencer (RJS at jsamherst.com) for several real estate > purchases and sales over the past 15 years. > > Chris > > On 10/2/19 5:27 PM, Tom Murray via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Hi all, > > I hate to post a question I feel must have been asked a dozen times in > > the past, but a google searches of xxxx site:hidden-tech.net > > did not find anything in the HT archives... > > > > Looking for recommendations for a Valley real estate attorney who is > > no-frills/inexpensive with home owner sales closing stuff. > > > > thanks, Tom > > > > > ===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---=== > > > > Tom Murray, EdD > > > > Knowing and Unknowing Reality (read it here > > ) > > > > Chief Visionary and Instigator @ Open Way Solutions ? > > www.openwaysolutions.com > > > > Senior Research Fellow in Cognitive Tools, Educational Technology & > > E-Dialogue @ UMass Amherst ? www.tommurray.us > > > > 36 Fruit Street, Northampton MA 01060; phone: is413-then-695-and-2800. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > -- > > Chris Duncan, Ph.D. > President, GISmatters > duncan at gismatters.com > > http://www.gismatters.com/ > > Tel: +1 413.549.2052 > Fax: +1 413.658.0346 > > 1 Tuckerman Ln > Amherst, MA 01002 > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krystyobolyte at gmail.com Thu Oct 3 14:17:49 2019 From: krystyobolyte at gmail.com (Kristi) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 10:17:49 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Looking for real estate closing attourney In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: not a lot of price difference among closing attorneys and quality is worth it in any event. Bob Spencer is great. Kristi A. Bodin Montague, MA c: 413-695-9848 krystyobolyte at gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristibodin https://twitter.com/KABESQ http://KABESQ.com Legal Solutions in Plain English On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 2:57 PM Noah Smith via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I'll second Bob Spencer. > > > -- > Noah W. Smith, Founder + CEO. > Pronouns: he/him/his. Scheduling a meeting with me? View my availability > > > > *Born-Digital *| 84 Russell St, Hadley MA | phone: 413-259-6777 | > born-digital.com > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:37 PM Chris Duncan, GISmatters via Hidden-discuss > wrote: > >> I haven't shopped around recently so I don't know if he's "inexpensive", >> but I've been happily using the straightforward services of Bob Spencer >> at Jankowski & Spencer (RJS at jsamherst.com) for several real estate >> purchases and sales over the past 15 years. >> >> Chris >> >> On 10/2/19 5:27 PM, Tom Murray via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > I hate to post a question I feel must have been asked a dozen times in >> > the past, but a google searches of xxxx site:hidden-tech.net >> > did not find anything in the HT archives... >> > >> > Looking for recommendations for a Valley real estate attorney who is >> > no-frills/inexpensive with home owner sales closing stuff. >> > >> > thanks, Tom >> > >> > >> ===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---===---=== >> > >> > Tom Murray, EdD >> > >> > Knowing and Unknowing Reality (read it here >> > ) >> > >> > Chief Visionary and Instigator @ Open Way Solutions ? >> > www.openwaysolutions.com >> > >> > Senior Research Fellow in Cognitive Tools, Educational Technology & >> > E-Dialogue @ UMass Amherst ? www.tommurray.us > > >> > >> > 36 Fruit Street, Northampton MA 01060; phone: is413-then-695-and-2800. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> > >> > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >> list. >> > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > >> >> -- >> >> Chris Duncan, Ph.D. >> President, GISmatters >> duncan at gismatters.com >> >> http://www.gismatters.com/ >> >> Tel: +1 413.549.2052 >> Fax: +1 413.658.0346 >> >> 1 Tuckerman Ln >> Amherst, MA 01002 >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rob at 2disc.com Mon Oct 7 19:38:11 2019 From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 19:38:11 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] move files from PC to PC In-Reply-To: <000301d57b94$c7fdc150$57f943f0$@comcast.net> References: <000301d57b94$c7fdc150$57f943f0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi Joan, I'm CCing Jon Ogrydziak, who is fantastic at that kind of thing. Did a bunch like that but more complicated and also for some home/solopreneurs I referred him to, and they are all happy. Best Regards, Rob Laporte | SEO Specialist, CEO DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com www.2disc.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Joan Long via Hidden-discuss Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 11:51 AM To: 'Hidden Tech List' Subject: [Hidden-tech] move files from PC to PC Hello HT Community, Last time I switched laptops, I purchased a cable, connected the two, and it was done. (this was a WHILE ago). It seems like ?windows easy transfer? is not available for a newer windows 10 laptop? I?m seeing PC Mover is being suggested ? can you all provide a suggestion on what?s easiest? (and which version, if that?s the way to go) Do I download this and ALSO get a cable? Thought I?d ask before I waste $ and time trying to move the files. Thanks in advance! Joan Joan Long Essential Office Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob at 2disc.com Mon Oct 7 19:45:04 2019 From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 19:45:04 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] SEO presentation by Roger Montti, October 16 @ 7PM in Northampton In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As one leading the SEO department of my firm for, gulp, 22 years, this Guy Roger Montti looks to be the real deal. Worthwhile for most I'm sure. Best Regards, Rob Laporte | SEO Specialist, CEO DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money 413-584-6500 rob at 2disc.com www.2disc.com NOTE: Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:17 PM To: email list Hidden-Tech Subject: [Hidden-tech] SEO presentation by Roger Montti, October 16 @ 7PM in Northampton If interested, local SEO expert Roger Montti will be speaking on the current state of SEO at our next Northampton Wordpress meetup. Roger gets the first hour. The rest will be local Wordpress discussion you might want to stay for if you are interested in the Wordpress platform. We can accommodate about 20, so first come, first served. We'll be meeting in the basement of the Coldwell Banker storefront on Main Street, downtown Northampton, close to Thorne's Marketplace. Please RSVP if coming and if you have a change of plans please un-RSVP. Roger's talks are often at capacity, so someone may want your spot. https://www.meetup.com/Northampton-WordPress-Meetup/events/fbtfjryznbvb/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you don't get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. _____ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Joan Long via Hidden-discuss Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 11:51 AM To: 'Hidden Tech List' Subject: [Hidden-tech] move files from PC to PC Hello HT Community, Last time I switched laptops, I purchased a cable, connected the two, and it was done. (this was a WHILE ago). It seems like "windows easy transfer" is not available for a newer windows 10 laptop? I'm seeing PC Mover is being suggested - can you all provide a suggestion on what's easiest? (and which version, if that's the way to go) Do I download this and ALSO get a cable? Thought I'd ask before I waste $ and time trying to move the files. Thanks in advance! Joan Joan Long Essential Office Services -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattwolaver at gmail.com Wed Oct 9 19:22:39 2019 From: mattwolaver at gmail.com (Matt Wolaver) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 15:22:39 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Graphic design contest for a card deck In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2B3DBEFB-BA7E-4E8F-876A-EF67388026F9@gmail.com> I?m saddened to hear that one local designer (that I know) entered their design and shared with me response from they received from the company that put out the request. Hi, Thank you again for your design submission. Unfortunately yours was the only submission for the contest and I had hoped to see a variety of designs. I have decided to run the contest on crowdspring.com to get more submissions. I encourage you to submit your designs there -- you should be able to search for the project under Connection Cards. Thanks! Jessica > >> On Sep 28, 2019, at 3:09 PM, Tess Gadwa via Hidden-discuss wrote: > ? > But of course, that gets built into your pricing. > > That is more the advertising agency model of doing things. In my view, it's inefficient. > >> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Harry Flood via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> Being in the finance field I have worked in several companies where clients or potential clients were totally happy to have you do development work for their benefit, after which they'd decide to buy it. Or not. It's a slippery slope. >> >> Harry >> >> Harry J Flood >> CFO, Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:12 PM B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> Greetings HT, >>> >>> Interesting discussion going on. Also following the parallel thread about The Other Job Fair. >>> >>> I think there is a place for this type of Graphic Design Contest ? design students looking to build a portfolio, or people just starting out with the same goal. I submitted quite a few pieces back when I was in school during the late 70?s and actually ?won" several. Good to have printed samples. >>> >>> Of course most times, you get what you pay for ? but occasionally you get a gem. >>> >>> At agencies I?ve worked at, we often would develop creative concepts for campaigns which were technically ?on spec? but these were for new business pitches for national clients. If we won the account, it would pay off in a big way. We had a budget allocated for this type of spec work. >>> >>> Happy Fall, >>> Kimo >>> >>> >>> >>> AZURELINK :: ?Creative Design Technologies" >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Web Site Design & Scalable, Managed Web Hosting >>> Joomla! Content Management System Implementation >>> eCommerce Development >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> 42 South Street, Suite 4 >>> Milford, NH 03055 >>> (603) 769-4224 >>> For more information, please visit: www.azurelink.com >>> Follow Azurelink on Twitter: http://twitter.com/azurelink >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>> >>>> Aaron, >>>> >>>> This is a GREAT template to go by!! >>>> >>>> Denise >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:56 PM Aaron Taylor-Waldman wrote: >>>>> The AIGA (American Institute of Graphic Arts) has made their stance clear https://www.aiga.org/position-spec-work >>>>> >>>>> When it comes to work-for-hire, I offer these options for creative services: >>>>> Paid work >>>>> Pro bono (or volunteering) ? for cause work only, and no more than 20% of my annual work hours. >>>>> Personal projects (The only person who gets 'free' work is me) >>>>> Equity may be an option for some, sure?but 90% of the time you should take the money. Unless you're a cofounder of a company, and/or the equity offer is from a startup with a valuation and funding (not bootstrapping). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:34 PM Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>>>> Kris, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've always likened the idea of these skills being too easy to be paid their worth as being seen as simple as coloring. What I don't get is if they clearly see these skills as so simplified it requires little to no pay, why don't they just do it themselves? I am, by no means, implying that is the case here. Good/great designers cost money, and I completely understand the overwhelming weight of the costs any organization, or individual lacking the funds, can be. >>>>>> >>>>>> Denise >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM kris badertscher via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>>>>> As a media and communications/graphic designer, I found this contest to be incredibly disrespectful to the ever-expanding community of pioneer valley creatives who so often have to go against their better judgement and take work either pro bono (hoping that it leads to paid a gig), for barter, or for slave-wage labor just in order to pay a bill. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This cultivated western Massachusetts mentality of bargaining for free or underpaid labor predominates in this region where creative workers are consistently being taken advantage of because so few opportunities present themselves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whether it's photography, video, graphic design, or another skilled creative endeavor, other professionals in the Valley seem to think that these skills require nothing more than just a press of a button. Or maybe they do know and understand that having a subscription to Adobe or Microsoft products or other applications, plus equipment and training in order to make their designs for clients are outrageously expensive and they don't care. Because right, there's always the bounty of students to hire willing to put up with unpaid labor early in their careers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This mindset hurts all of us. We all then have to accept underpaid labor as an exploited community in order to survive, never mind thrive. What results is that no one outside the creative community gets a sense of what a project actually costs which repeats this unethical cycle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Living in the age of wanting something for (nearly) nothing is doing everyone a disservice and my recommendation is to first research the market and know how much a particular job costs. And please consider the cost- not just of what you are offering in exchange for labor or products, but the cost to all of us who live with the consequences of that mindset. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, Kris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sustainabilitydesigner.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 12:36 PM Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>>>>>> You do realize that that amounts for barely 4 hours of a reasonable wage for a graphic artist >>>>>>>> and that only goes to the winner -- really doesn't sound in line with your company name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd hope to see something more, maybe at least a percent of sales >>>>>>>> OR just hire an artist. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Think about it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/20/2019 6:37 AM, Jessica Gifford via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm running a design contest for the back and box of a customized deck of Connection Cards, which are used in a program that helps participants get to know new people, build social connections, and develop friendships. Each card has a question that participants answer as part of the program. There will be a $150 prize for the winning design. You may email jessica at growingwellness.life for entry guidelines. Please pass along to anyone who may be interested. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> Jessica >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jessica Gifford, LICSW >>>>>>>>> www.growingwellness.life >>>>>>>>> 413-548-4688 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>>>>>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>>>>>>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>>>>>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>>>>>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>>>>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>>>>>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>>>>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>>>>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>>>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>>>>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>>>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>>>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>>>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> >> -- >> Harry J Flood >> Chief Financial Officer >> Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> 20 Gatehouse Road >> Amherst, MA 01002 >> >> Office phone: 413.344.2467 >> Office fax: 413.323.7208 >> Mobile phone: 413.626.2020 >> Email: Hjflood at Mediaspectrum.net >> >> Corporate headquarters located at: >> Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> 1688 Meridian Ave., 6th Floor >> Miami Beach, FL 33139 >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From denisefbatalha at gmail.com Wed Oct 9 20:21:21 2019 From: denisefbatalha at gmail.com (Denise Batalha) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 16:21:21 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Graphic design contest for a card deck In-Reply-To: <2B3DBEFB-BA7E-4E8F-876A-EF67388026F9@gmail.com> References: <2B3DBEFB-BA7E-4E8F-876A-EF67388026F9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hope it fails for them there, as well. Unbelievable. On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 4:18 PM Matt Wolaver via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I?m saddened to hear that one local designer (that I know) entered their > design and shared with me response from they received from the company that > put out the request. > > *Hi,* > *Thank you again for your design submission. Unfortunately yours was the > only submission for the contest and I had hoped to see a variety of > designs. I have decided to run the contest on crowdspring.com > to get more submissions. I encourage you to > submit your designs there -- you should be able to search for the project > under Connection Cards.* > *Thanks!* > *Jessica* > > > > > On Sep 28, 2019, at 3:09 PM, Tess Gadwa via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > ? > But of course, that gets built into your pricing. > > That is more the advertising agency model of doing things. In my view, > it's inefficient. > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Harry Flood via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Being in the finance field I have worked in several companies where >> clients or potential clients were totally happy to have you do development >> work for their benefit, after which they'd decide to buy it. Or not. It's a >> slippery slope. >> >> Harry >> >> Harry J Flood >> CFO, Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:12 PM B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss < >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >>> Greetings HT, >>> >>> Interesting discussion going on. Also following the parallel thread >>> about *The Other Job Fair*. >>> >>> I think there is a place for this type of Graphic Design Contest ? >>> design students looking to build a portfolio, or people just starting out >>> with the same goal. I submitted quite a few pieces back when I was in >>> school during the late 70?s and actually ?won" several. Good to have >>> printed samples. >>> >>> Of course most times, you get what you pay for ? but occasionally you >>> get a gem. >>> >>> At agencies I?ve worked at, we often would develop creative concepts for >>> campaigns which were technically ?on spec? but these were for new business >>> pitches for national clients. If we won the account, it would pay off in a >>> big way. We had a budget allocated for this type of spec work. >>> >>> Happy Fall, >>> Kimo >>> >>> >>> >>> AZURELINK :: ?Creative Design Technologies" >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Web Site Design & Scalable, Managed Web Hosting >>> Joomla! Content Management System Implementation >>> eCommerce Development >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> 42 South Street, Suite 4 >>> Milford, NH 03055 >>> (603) 769-4224 >>> For more information, please visit: www.azurelink.com >>> Follow Azurelink on Twitter: http://twitter.com/azurelink >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss < >>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >>> >>> Aaron, >>> >>> This is a GREAT template to go by!! >>> >>> Denise >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:56 PM Aaron Taylor-Waldman < >>> aaron at taylorwaldman.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The AIGA (American Institute of Graphic Arts) has made their stance >>>> clear https://www.aiga.org/position-spec-work >>>> >>>> When it comes to work-for-hire, I offer these options for creative >>>> services: >>>> >>>> - Paid work >>>> - Pro bono (or volunteering) ? for cause work only, and no more >>>> than 20% of my annual work hours. >>>> - Personal projects (The only person who gets 'free' work is me) >>>> >>>> Equity may be an option for some, sure?but 90% of the time you should >>>> take the money. Unless you're a cofounder of a company, and/or the equity >>>> offer is from a startup with a valuation and funding (not bootstrapping). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:34 PM Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss < >>>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kris, >>>>> >>>>> I've always likened the idea of these skills being too easy to be paid >>>>> their worth as being seen as simple as coloring. What I don't get is if >>>>> they clearly see these skills as so simplified it requires little to no >>>>> pay, why don't they just do it themselves? I am, by no means, implying that >>>>> is the case here. Good/great designers cost money, and I completely >>>>> understand the overwhelming weight of the costs any organization, or >>>>> individual lacking the funds, can be. >>>>> >>>>> Denise >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM kris badertscher via Hidden-discuss < >>>>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As a media and communications/graphic designer, I found this >>>>>> *contest* to be incredibly disrespectful to the ever-expanding >>>>>> community of pioneer valley creatives who so often have to go against their >>>>>> better judgement and take work either pro bono (hoping that it leads to >>>>>> paid a gig), for barter, or for slave-wage labor just in order to pay a >>>>>> bill. >>>>>> >>>>>> This cultivated western Massachusetts mentality of bargaining for >>>>>> free or underpaid labor predominates in this region where creative workers >>>>>> are consistently being taken advantage of because so few opportunities >>>>>> present themselves. >>>>>> >>>>>> Whether it's photography, video, graphic design, or another skilled >>>>>> creative endeavor, other professionals in the Valley seem to think that >>>>>> these skills require nothing more than just a press of a button. Or maybe >>>>>> they do know and understand that having a subscription to Adobe or >>>>>> Microsoft products or other applications, plus equipment and training in >>>>>> order to make their designs for clients are outrageously expensive and they >>>>>> don't care. Because right, there's always the bounty of students to hire >>>>>> willing to put up with unpaid labor early in their careers. >>>>>> >>>>>> This mindset hurts all of us. We all then have to accept underpaid >>>>>> labor as an exploited community in order to survive, never mind >>>>>> *thrive*. What results is that no one outside the creative community >>>>>> gets a sense of what a project *actually* costs which repeats this >>>>>> unethical cycle. >>>>>> >>>>>> Living in the age of wanting something for (nearly) nothing is doing >>>>>> everyone a disservice and my recommendation is to first research the market >>>>>> and know how much a particular job costs. And please consider the cost- not >>>>>> just of what you are offering in exchange for labor or products, but the >>>>>> cost to all of us who live with the consequences of that mindset. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, Kris >>>>>> >>>>>> sustainabilitydesigner.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 12:36 PM Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss < >>>>>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You do realize that that amounts for barely 4 hours of a reasonable >>>>>>> wage for a graphic artist >>>>>>> and that only goes to the winner -- really doesn't sound in line >>>>>>> with your company name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd hope to see something more, maybe at least a percent of sales >>>>>>> OR just hire an artist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Think about it. >>>>>>> On 9/20/2019 6:37 AM, Jessica Gifford via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm running a design contest for the back and box of a customized >>>>>>> deck of *Connection Cards*, which are used in a program that helps >>>>>>> participants get to know new people, build social connections, and develop >>>>>>> friendships. Each card has a question that participants answer as part of >>>>>>> the program. There will be a $150 prize for the winning design. You >>>>>>> may email jessica at growingwellness.life for entry guidelines. Please >>>>>>> pass along to anyone who may be interested. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> Jessica >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jessica Gifford, LICSW >>>>>>> www.growingwellness.life >>>>>>> 413-548-4688 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>>>>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>>>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>>>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>>>>>> list. >>>>>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>>>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>>>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>>>> >>>>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>>>>> list. >>>>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>>> >>>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>>>> list. >>>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >> >> >> -- >> Harry J Flood >> Chief Financial Officer >> Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> 20 Gatehouse Road >> Amherst, MA 01002 >> >> Office phone: 413.344.2467 >> Office fax: 413.323.7208 >> Mobile phone: 413.626.2020 >> Email: Hjflood at Mediaspectrum.net >> >> Corporate headquarters located at: >> Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> 1688 Meridian Ave., 6th Floor >> Miami Beach, FL 33139 >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg at gregcaulton.com Wed Oct 9 20:41:59 2019 From: greg at gregcaulton.com (Greg Caulton) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 16:41:59 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Graphic design contest for a card deck In-Reply-To: <2B3DBEFB-BA7E-4E8F-876A-EF67388026F9@gmail.com> References: <2B3DBEFB-BA7E-4E8F-876A-EF67388026F9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oy! Greg :-)= ______________________ Greg Caulton Creative Director, Patent Draftsman www.gregcaulton.com 233 West Pelham Road Shutesbury, MA 01072 Phone: 413-461-7096 > On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Matt Wolaver via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > I?m saddened to hear that one local designer (that I know) entered their design and shared with me response from they received from the company that put out the request. > > Hi, > Thank you again for your design submission. Unfortunately yours was the only submission for the contest and I had hoped to see a variety of designs. I have decided to run the contest on crowdspring.com to get more submissions. I encourage you to submit your designs there -- you should be able to search for the project under Connection Cards. > Thanks! > Jessica > > > >> >> On Sep 28, 2019, at 3:09 PM, Tess Gadwa via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> ? >> But of course, that gets built into your pricing. >> >> That is more the advertising agency model of doing things. In my view, it's inefficient. >> >> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Harry Flood via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >> Being in the finance field I have worked in several companies where clients or potential clients were totally happy to have you do development work for their benefit, after which they'd decide to buy it. Or not. It's a slippery slope. >> >> Harry >> >> Harry J Flood >> CFO, Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:12 PM B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >> Greetings HT, >> >> Interesting discussion going on. Also following the parallel thread about The Other Job Fair. >> >> I think there is a place for this type of Graphic Design Contest ? design students looking to build a portfolio, or people just starting out with the same goal. I submitted quite a few pieces back when I was in school during the late 70?s and actually ?won" several. Good to have printed samples. >> >> Of course most times, you get what you pay for ? but occasionally you get a gem. >> >> At agencies I?ve worked at, we often would develop creative concepts for campaigns which were technically ?on spec? but these were for new business pitches for national clients. If we won the account, it would pay off in a big way. We had a budget allocated for this type of spec work. >> >> Happy Fall, >> Kimo >> >> >> >> AZURELINK :: ?Creative Design Technologies" >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Web Site Design & Scalable, Managed Web Hosting >> Joomla! Content Management System Implementation >> eCommerce Development >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> 42 South Street, Suite 4 >> Milford, NH 03055 >> (603) 769-4224 >> For more information, please visit: www.azurelink.com >> Follow Azurelink on Twitter: http://twitter.com/azurelink >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> On Sep 26, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >> >>> Aaron, >>> >>> This is a GREAT template to go by!! >>> >>> Denise >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:56 PM Aaron Taylor-Waldman > wrote: >>> The AIGA (American Institute of Graphic Arts) has made their stance clear https://www.aiga.org/position-spec-work >>> >>> When it comes to work-for-hire, I offer these options for creative services: >>> Paid work >>> Pro bono (or volunteering) ? for cause work only, and no more than 20% of my annual work hours. >>> Personal projects (The only person who gets 'free' work is me) >>> Equity may be an option for some, sure?but 90% of the time you should take the money. Unless you're a cofounder of a company, and/or the equity offer is from a startup with a valuation and funding (not bootstrapping). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:34 PM Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >>> Kris, >>> >>> I've always likened the idea of these skills being too easy to be paid their worth as being seen as simple as coloring. What I don't get is if they clearly see these skills as so simplified it requires little to no pay, why don't they just do it themselves? I am, by no means, implying that is the case here. Good/great designers cost money, and I completely understand the overwhelming weight of the costs any organization, or individual lacking the funds, can be. >>> >>> Denise >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM kris badertscher via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >>> As a media and communications/graphic designer, I found this contest to be incredibly disrespectful to the ever-expanding community of pioneer valley creatives who so often have to go against their better judgement and take work either pro bono (hoping that it leads to paid a gig), for barter, or for slave-wage labor just in order to pay a bill. >>> >>> This cultivated western Massachusetts mentality of bargaining for free or underpaid labor predominates in this region where creative workers are consistently being taken advantage of because so few opportunities present themselves. >>> >>> Whether it's photography, video, graphic design, or another skilled creative endeavor, other professionals in the Valley seem to think that these skills require nothing more than just a press of a button. Or maybe they do know and understand that having a subscription to Adobe or Microsoft products or other applications, plus equipment and training in order to make their designs for clients are outrageously expensive and they don't care. Because right, there's always the bounty of students to hire willing to put up with unpaid labor early in their careers. >>> >>> This mindset hurts all of us. We all then have to accept underpaid labor as an exploited community in order to survive, never mind thrive. What results is that no one outside the creative community gets a sense of what a project actually costs which repeats this unethical cycle. >>> >>> Living in the age of wanting something for (nearly) nothing is doing everyone a disservice and my recommendation is to first research the market and know how much a particular job costs. And please consider the cost- not just of what you are offering in exchange for labor or products, but the cost to all of us who live with the consequences of that mindset. >>> >>> Cheers, Kris >>> >>> sustainabilitydesigner.com >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 12:36 PM Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss > wrote: >>> You do realize that that amounts for barely 4 hours of a reasonable wage for a graphic artist >>> and that only goes to the winner -- really doesn't sound in line with your company name. >>> >>> I'd hope to see something more, maybe at least a percent of sales >>> OR just hire an artist. >>> Think about it. >>> >>> On 9/20/2019 6:37 AM, Jessica Gifford via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I'm running a design contest for the back and box of a customized deck of Connection Cards, which are used in a program that helps participants get to know new people, build social connections, and develop friendships. Each card has a question that participants answer as part of the program. There will be a $150 prize for the winning design. You may email jessica at growingwellness.life for entry guidelines. Please pass along to anyone who may be interested. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Jessica >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> Jessica Gifford, LICSW >>>> www.growingwellness.life >>>> 413-548-4688 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> >> -- >> Harry J Flood >> Chief Financial Officer >> Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> 20 Gatehouse Road >> Amherst, MA 01002 >> >> Office phone: 413.344.2467 >> Office fax: 413.323.7208 >> Mobile phone: 413.626.2020 >> Email: Hjflood at Mediaspectrum.net >> >> Corporate headquarters located at: >> Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> 1688 Meridian Ave., 6th Floor >> Miami Beach, FL 33139 >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bklee at azurelink.com Thu Oct 10 16:30:13 2019 From: bklee at azurelink.com (B. Kimo Lee) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 12:30:13 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Graphic design contest for a card deck In-Reply-To: <2B3DBEFB-BA7E-4E8F-876A-EF67388026F9@gmail.com> References: <2B3DBEFB-BA7E-4E8F-876A-EF67388026F9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <333BEEDA-AB03-4EA4-B959-8ACA0F94CE64@azurelink.com> Not entirely surprising that there was a lack of entries. I wouldn?t have been inclined to enter, myself, had I known about it. It would be a big waste of my time as far as I?m concerned. Almost like responding to a blanket RFP, which I never do cold anymore. Gotta have an in to make it worthwhile. Why spend 10-20 hours pulling together a project bid with specs, timeline, and costing unless you have at least a 85% chance of getting the assignment? Best, Kimo On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Matt Wolaver via Hidden-discuss wrote: > I?m saddened to hear that one local designer (that I know) entered their design and shared with me response from they received from the company that put out the request. > > Hi, > Thank you again for your design submission. Unfortunately yours was the only submission for the contest and I had hoped to see a variety of designs. I have decided to run the contest on crowdspring.com to get more submissions. I encourage you to submit your designs there -- you should be able to search for the project under Connection Cards. > Thanks! > Jessica > > > >> >> On Sep 28, 2019, at 3:09 PM, Tess Gadwa via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> ? >> But of course, that gets built into your pricing. >> >> That is more the advertising agency model of doing things. In my view, it's inefficient. >> >> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Harry Flood via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> Being in the finance field I have worked in several companies where clients or potential clients were totally happy to have you do development work for their benefit, after which they'd decide to buy it. Or not. It's a slippery slope. >> >> Harry >> >> Harry J Flood >> CFO, Mediaspectrum, Inc. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:12 PM B. Kimo Lee via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> Greetings HT, >> >> Interesting discussion going on. Also following the parallel thread about The Other Job Fair. >> >> I think there is a place for this type of Graphic Design Contest ? design students looking to build a portfolio, or people just starting out with the same goal. I submitted quite a few pieces back when I was in school during the late 70?s and actually ?won" several. Good to have printed samples. >> >> Of course most times, you get what you pay for ? but occasionally you get a gem. >> >> At agencies I?ve worked at, we often would develop creative concepts for campaigns which were technically ?on spec? but these were for new business pitches for national clients. If we won the account, it would pay off in a big way. We had a budget allocated for this type of spec work. >> >> Happy Fall, >> Kimo >> >> >> >> AZURELINK :: ?Creative Design Technologies" >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Web Site Design & Scalable, Managed Web Hosting >> Joomla! Content Management System Implementation >> eCommerce Development >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> 42 South Street, Suite 4 >> Milford, NH 03055 >> (603) 769-4224 >> For more information, please visit: www.azurelink.com >> Follow Azurelink on Twitter: http://twitter.com/azurelink >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> On Sep 26, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >>> Aaron, >>> >>> This is a GREAT template to go by!! >>> >>> Denise >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:56 PM Aaron Taylor-Waldman wrote: >>> The AIGA (American Institute of Graphic Arts) has made their stance clear https://www.aiga.org/position-spec-work >>> >>> When it comes to work-for-hire, I offer these options for creative services: >>> Paid work >>> Pro bono (or volunteering) ? for cause work only, and no more than 20% of my annual work hours. >>> Personal projects (The only person who gets 'free' work is me) >>> Equity may be an option for some, sure?but 90% of the time you should take the money. Unless you're a cofounder of a company, and/or the equity offer is from a startup with a valuation and funding (not bootstrapping). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:34 PM Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> Kris, >>> >>> I've always likened the idea of these skills being too easy to be paid their worth as being seen as simple as coloring. What I don't get is if they clearly see these skills as so simplified it requires little to no pay, why don't they just do it themselves? I am, by no means, implying that is the case here. Good/great designers cost money, and I completely understand the overwhelming weight of the costs any organization, or individual lacking the funds, can be. >>> >>> Denise >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM kris badertscher via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> As a media and communications/graphic designer, I found this contest to be incredibly disrespectful to the ever-expanding community of pioneer valley creatives who so often have to go against their better judgement and take work either pro bono (hoping that it leads to paid a gig), for barter, or for slave-wage labor just in order to pay a bill. >>> >>> This cultivated western Massachusetts mentality of bargaining for free or underpaid labor predominates in this region where creative workers are consistently being taken advantage of because so few opportunities present themselves. >>> >>> Whether it's photography, video, graphic design, or another skilled creative endeavor, other professionals in the Valley seem to think that these skills require nothing more than just a press of a button. Or maybe they do know and understand that having a subscription to Adobe or Microsoft products or other applications, plus equipment and training in order to make their designs for clients are outrageously expensive and they don't care. Because right, there's always the bounty of students to hire willing to put up with unpaid labor early in their careers. >>> >>> This mindset hurts all of us. We all then have to accept underpaid labor as an exploited community in order to survive, never mind thrive. What results is that no one outside the creative community gets a sense of what a project actually costs which repeats this unethical cycle. >>> >>> Living in the age of wanting something for (nearly) nothing is doing everyone a disservice and my recommendation is to first research the market and know how much a particular job costs. And please consider the cost- not just of what you are offering in exchange for labor or products, but the cost to all of us who live with the consequences of that mindset. >>> >>> Cheers, Kris >>> >>> sustainabilitydesigner.com >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 12:36 PM Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> You do realize that that amounts for barely 4 hours of a reasonable wage for a graphic artist >>> and that only goes to the winner -- really doesn't sound in line with your company name. >>> >>> I'd hope to see something more, maybe at least a percent of sales >>> OR just hire an artist. >>> Think about it. >>> >>> On 9/20/2019 6:37 AM, Jessica Gifford via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I'm running a design contest for the back and box of a customized deck of Connection Cards, which are used in a program that helps participants get to know new people, build social connections, and develop friendships. Each card has a question that participants answer as part of the program. There will be a $150 prize for the winning design. You may email jessica at growingwellness.life for entry guidelines. 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URL: From rich at tnrglobal.com Fri Oct 11 17:17:02 2019 From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 13:17:02 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] The latest about Co-working in Greenfield. Message-ID: https://www.recorder.com/Lt-Governor-Polito-stops-at-coworking-spaces-in-Greenfield-29262295 GREENFIELD ? Lt. Gov. Karyn Polito visited two coworking spaces in the city Thursday as part of research for the next economic development plan for the Baker-Polito Administration. Another Castle and Greenspace CoWork were two recipients of the state?s Collaborative Workspace Program funding in 2017. Greenspace received $101,782 in grant funding and Another Castle, $33,000. ?We?re visiting places like these will help us crystallize ideas around how to help the start-up community and the tech community have access to what you need for infrastructure and space and connected to talent to grow your ideas into a commercial business,? Polito said. ?That could grow into more jobs, and those jobs are evident in a region like this. It attracts more people to connect to these jobs and connect to the community. We need to learn from you about the things that are working and try to do more of that ? and the barriers or stumbling blocks to remove to help people do things like this.? Another Castle is a coworking space located on Olive Street for designers of augmented reality, virtual reality and 3-D games ?founded by Paul Hake, CEO of HitPoint and Pat King, HitPoint producer. Greenspace, located on the third floor of Hawks & Reed Performance Center, was co-founded by Jeremy Goldsher and Jeff Sauser .... -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From onebaddad at gmail.com Fri Oct 11 18:03:00 2019 From: onebaddad at gmail.com (Shane Brenizer) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:03:00 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] The latest about Co-working in Greenfield. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Let's not forget about https://bridgeofflowersbusinesscenter.com which currently has spaces available and the parking is free. On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:17 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > https://www.recorder.com/Lt-Governor-Polito-stops-at-coworking-spaces-in-Greenfield-29262295 > > GREENFIELD ? Lt. Gov. Karyn Polito visited two coworking spaces in the > city Thursday as part of research for the next economic development plan > for the Baker-Polito Administration. > > Another Castle and Greenspace CoWork were two recipients of the state?s > Collaborative Workspace Program funding in 2017. Greenspace received > $101,782 in grant funding and Another Castle, $33,000. > > ?We?re visiting places like these will help us crystallize ideas around > how to help the start-up community and the tech community have access to > what you need for infrastructure and space and connected to talent to grow > your ideas into a commercial business,? Polito said. ?That could grow into > more jobs, and those jobs are evident in a region like this. It attracts > more people to connect to these jobs and connect to the community. We need > to learn from you about the things that are working and try to do more of > that ? and the barriers or stumbling blocks to remove to help people do > things like this.? > > Another Castle is a coworking space located on Olive Street for designers > of augmented reality, virtual reality and 3-D games ? founded by Paul > Hake, CEO of HitPoint and Pat King, HitPoint producer. > > Greenspace, located on the third floor of Hawks & Reed Performance Center, > was co-founded by Jeremy Goldsher and Jeff Sauser > > .... > > -- > Rich Roth > CEO TnR Global > > Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com > Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com > Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com > And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com > http://www.artonmytv.com/ > Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at davidchase.net Fri Oct 11 18:28:52 2019 From: david at davidchase.net (David Chase) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:28:52 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] The latest about Co-working in Greenfield. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also, a bit farther south and convenient to many of the Hilltowns, in Williamsburg: http://www.commonscoworking.com/ On 10/11/2019 2:03 PM, Shane Brenizer via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Let's not forget about https://bridgeofflowersbusinesscenter.com > ?which currently has > spaces available and the parking is free. > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:17 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss > > wrote: > > https://www.recorder.com/Lt-Governor-Polito-stops-at-coworking-spaces-in-Greenfield-29262295 > > GREENFIELD ? Lt. Gov. Karyn Polito visited two coworking spaces in > the city Thursday as part of research for the next economic > development plan for the Baker-Polito Administration. > > Another Castle and Greenspace CoWork were two recipients of the > state?s Collaborative Workspace Program funding in 2017. > Greenspace received $101,782 in grant funding and Another Castle, > $33,000. > > ?We?re visiting places like these will help us crystallize ideas > around how to help the start-up community and the tech community > have access to what you need for infrastructure and space and > connected to talent to grow your ideas into a commercial > business,? Polito said. ?That could grow into more jobs, and those > jobs are evident in a region like this. It attracts more people to > connect to these jobs and connect to the community. We need to > learn from you about the things that are working and try to do > more of that ? and the barriers or stumbling blocks to remove to > help people do things like this.? > > Another Castle is a coworking space located on Olive Street for > designers of augmented reality, virtual reality and 3-D games > ?founded by Paul Hake, CEO of HitPoint and Pat King, HitPoint > producer. > > Greenspace, located on the third floor of Hawks & Reed Performance > Center, was co-founded by Jeremy Goldsher and Jeff Sauser > > .... > > -- > Rich Roth > CEO TnR Global > > Bio and personal blog:http://rizbang.com > Building the really big sites:http://www.tnrglobal.com > Small/Soho business in the PV:http://www.hidden-tech.net > Places to meet for business:http://www.meetmewhere.com > And for relaxation:http://www.welovemuseums.com > http://www.artonmytv.com/ > Helping move the world:http://www.earththrives.com > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rich at tnrglobal.com Fri Oct 11 18:42:33 2019 From: rich at tnrglobal.com (Rich@tnr) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 14:42:33 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] The latest about Co-working in Greenfield. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9adae87b-eb19-0d44-378f-c27471785883@tnrglobal.com> You should all make sure you are listed at: http://www.meetmewhere.com/?fwp_location_type=co-working A few are The story is about Greenfield - however other places are welcome to comment. For those that have not heard, the big dog We Work is making a bit if a mess, hopefully the local co-working places are doing well. On 10/11/2019 2:28 PM, David Chase via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Also, a bit farther south and convenient to many of the Hilltowns, in > Williamsburg: http://www.commonscoworking.com/ > > > On 10/11/2019 2:03 PM, Shane Brenizer via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> Let's not forget about https://bridgeofflowersbusinesscenter.com >> ?which currently has >> spaces available and the parking is free. >> >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:17 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss >> > > wrote: >> >> https://www.recorder.com/Lt-Governor-Polito-stops-at-coworking-spaces-in-Greenfield-29262295 >> >> -- Rich Roth CEO TnR Global Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com http://www.artonmytv.com/ Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer at factastudio.com Fri Oct 11 19:25:51 2019 From: spencer at factastudio.com (Spencer Sherman) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:25:51 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] The latest about Co-working in Greenfield. In-Reply-To: <9adae87b-eb19-0d44-378f-c27471785883@tnrglobal.com> References: <9adae87b-eb19-0d44-378f-c27471785883@tnrglobal.com> Message-ID: Full disclosure - I have no stake in Greenspace, but I am a member and helped them out with their website (https://greenspacecowork.com/). That aside, I'm a huge fan of what Jeff & Jeremy are doing, having seen firsthand the amount of time and care they've put into building the physical space, as well as fostering a community of entrepreneurs. Kudos to them and the folks at Another Castle for using the Mass Development grant toward building something really exciting. ****** *Spencer Sherman* principal / developer *p*: 978-807-3714 <9788073714> *e*: spencer at factastudio.com *Facta Studio* Mon-Fri: 8am - 6pm factastudio.com On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 2:46 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > You should all make sure you are listed at: > http://www.meetmewhere.com/?fwp_location_type=co-working > A few are > > The story is about Greenfield - however other places are welcome to > comment. > > For those that have not heard, the big dog We Work is making a bit if a > mess, hopefully the local co-working places are doing well. > On 10/11/2019 2:28 PM, David Chase via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Also, a bit farther south and convenient to many of the Hilltowns, in > Williamsburg: http://www.commonscoworking.com/ > > > On 10/11/2019 2:03 PM, Shane Brenizer via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Let's not forget about https://bridgeofflowersbusinesscenter.com which > currently has spaces available and the parking is free. > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:17 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> >> https://www.recorder.com/Lt-Governor-Polito-stops-at-coworking-spaces-in-Greenfield-29262295 >> >> >> -- > Rich Roth > CEO TnR Global > > Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com > Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com > Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com > And for relaxation: http://www.welovemuseums.com > http://www.artonmytv.com/ > Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markdhamill at gmail.com Sat Oct 12 18:31:53 2019 From: markdhamill at gmail.com (Mark D. Hamill) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 14:31:53 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] SEO presentation by Roger Montti, October 16 @ 7PM in Northampton In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just a reminder we still have spaces available for our Wordpress meeting on Wednesday. Local SEO expert Roger Montti will be presenting. He has four Search Engine Journal T-shirts to give away. We're meeting at 7PM in the basement of Coldwell Banker in downtown Northampton, near Thornes Marketplace. RSVP here: https://www.meetup.com/Northampton-WordPress-Meetup/events/fbtfjryznbvb/ On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:45 PM Rob Laporte wrote: > As one leading the SEO department of my firm for, gulp, 22 years, this Guy > Roger Montti looks to be the real deal. Worthwhile for most I'm sure. > > Best Regards, > > > Rob Laporte | SEO Specialist, CEO > > DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money > > 413-584-6500 > > rob at 2disc.com > > www.2disc.com > > *NOTE:* Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you > don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Hidden-discuss on > behalf of Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2019 1:17 PM > *To:* email list Hidden-Tech > *Subject:* [Hidden-tech] SEO presentation by Roger Montti, October 16 @ > 7PM in Northampton > > If interested, local SEO expert Roger Montti will be speaking on the > current state of SEO at our next Northampton Wordpress meetup. Roger gets > the first hour. 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URL: From psienk at gmail.com Sat Oct 19 00:31:00 2019 From: psienk at gmail.com (Peter) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 20:31:00 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] LLC advice related to consulting Message-ID: Hi hidden-techers , I?m an embedded software engineer by trade and I recently learned from my employer that, due to market difficulties, I?ll need to start looking for new work the middle of next year. I was talking to a friend and he recommended that I startup my own LLC and go the consulting route to ?try before I buy? on any new job before I start full time, if possible. The likelihood of me actually doing that aside, here?s my question: my wife already has gone through the process to get an EIN/LLC for her art business. Could the two of us use the same LLC ? If so, is that advisable, or should I create my own? If we did share the same one, I?d want to change the LLC company name from an art-themed one to something more generic. Has anyone gone through this process? Having never consulted before, I?m pretty clueless as to all of these logistics. I?m interested in anyone?s thoughts or advice on any of the above. I also recently started a relationship with a local tax accountant so I?ll likely talk to them about all this as well. Thanks in advance for your time and thoughtful responses! -Peter Sienkewicz From david at farkas.com Sat Oct 19 23:26:54 2019 From: david at farkas.com (David F. Farkas) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 19:26:54 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Recordable CD-R and DVD-R discs for FREE! Message-ID: Does anyone still record CDs and DVDs? Free. Pick up in Greenfield, near the Fair Ground. -- ______________________________________________________ *D A V I D F R A N K L I N F A R K A S* *Remote Healing for Real Estate, People & Business* ______________________________________________________ *No trees were destroyed by sending this message. * *However, a great many electrons were sorely inconvenienced!* ______________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DiscsFree.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 618445 bytes Desc: not available URL: From krystyobolyte at gmail.com Sun Oct 20 18:36:32 2019 From: krystyobolyte at gmail.com (Kristi) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 14:36:32 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] LLC advice related to consulting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can help with this; you should also speak to whoever does your taxes about tax issues that may arise. The short answer is maybe. My work contact is below. First 1/2 hour is free. Hope this helps. Kristi A. Bodin Montague, MA c: 413-695-9848 krystyobolyte at gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristibodin https://twitter.com/KABESQ Kristi A. Bodin, Esq. - Legal Solutions in Plain English Curtiss, Carey, Gates & Goodridge, LLP 377 Main Street, P.O. Box 509 Greenfield, MA 01302 Tel. (413) 774-4331 Cell (413-695-9848) bodin at cccglaw.com On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:08 PM Peter via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hi hidden-techers , > > I?m an embedded software engineer by trade and I recently learned from my > employer that, due to market difficulties, I?ll need to start looking for > new work the middle of next year. > > I was talking to a friend and he recommended that I startup my own LLC and > go the consulting route to ?try before I buy? on any new job before I start > full time, if possible. > > The likelihood of me actually doing that aside, here?s my question: my > wife already has gone through the process to get an EIN/LLC for her art > business. Could the two of us use the same LLC ? > > If so, is that advisable, or should I create my own? > > If we did share the same one, I?d want to change the LLC company name from > an art-themed one to something more generic. Has anyone gone through this > process? > > Having never consulted before, I?m pretty clueless as to all of these > logistics. > > I?m interested in anyone?s thoughts or advice on any of the above. I also > recently started a relationship with a local tax accountant so I?ll likely > talk to them about all this as well. > > Thanks in advance for your time and thoughtful responses! > > -Peter Sienkewicz > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you don?t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. ________________________________ From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of David F. Farkas via Hidden-discuss Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 7:26 PM To: hidden-discuss Subject: [Hidden-tech] Recordable CD-R and DVD-R discs for FREE! Does anyone still record CDs and DVDs? Free. Pick up in Greenfield, near the Fair Ground. -- ______________________________________________________ D A V I D F R A N K L I N F A R K A S Remote Healing for Real Estate, People & Business ______________________________________________________ No trees were destroyed by sending this message. However, a great many electrons were sorely inconvenienced! ______________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shelhoro at gmail.com Mon Oct 21 12:50:34 2019 From: shelhoro at gmail.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 08:50:34 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] LLC advice related to consulting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Peter. I am not an accountant and of course I'm not very familiar with your situation, other than what you outlined. But I do feel a strong pull in the direction of getting your own LLC. If for some reason your business is going very different directions later, or if you and your wife go in different directions, separating things out maybe an enormous chore and the cause of great friction. Also, depending on what kind of consulting you do, and especially if it's stuff that doesn't generate a lot of liability, you may not need to incorporate. As a marketing and profitability consultant, I have done just fine as a sole proprietor since starting my business in 1981. But lives are not at stake in my consulting, and I have no employees. 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Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ On Fri, Oct 18, 2019, 8:31 PM Peter via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Hi hidden-techers , > > I?m an embedded software engineer by trade and I recently learned from my > employer that, due to market difficulties, I?ll need to start looking for > new work the middle of next year. > > I was talking to a friend and he recommended that I startup my own LLC and > go the consulting route to ?try before I buy? on any new job before I start > full time, if possible. > > The likelihood of me actually doing that aside, here?s my question: my > wife already has gone through the process to get an EIN/LLC for her art > business. Could the two of us use the same LLC ? > > If so, is that advisable, or should I create my own? > > If we did share the same one, I?d want to change the LLC company name from > an art-themed one to something more generic. Has anyone gone through this > process? > > Having never consulted before, I?m pretty clueless as to all of these > logistics. > > I?m interested in anyone?s thoughts or advice on any of the above. I also > recently started a relationship with a local tax accountant so I?ll likely > talk to them about all this as well. > > Thanks in advance for your time and thoughtful responses! > > -Peter Sienkewicz > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aaron at taylorwaldman.com Mon Oct 21 16:31:13 2019 From: aaron at taylorwaldman.com (Aaron Taylor-Waldman) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 12:31:13 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] LLC advice related to consulting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Shel might be on to something?keep it simple and clean. Parsing income, expenses, and pay among multiple entities within one LLC sounds unappealing. Granted, it is cheaper in terms of costs associated w/ biz formation, annual report/franchise taxes, tax prep, etc?but possibly significantly more expensive to have an accountant parse both entities under one schedule-K. And I would add that there are multiple tax structure options available to an LLC?and there might be one that is more appropriate to your particular business vs. what is appropriate for your wife's business. For tax purposes, a single person LLC can elect to be a sole proprietorship OR s-corp/c-corp tax designation. They have different approaches to payroll tax etc, and a qualified accountant or biz advisor would work with you to determine which structure is best for you, depending on things like how much income your business is projected to earn. Corporate designations allow for pass-through income?ie bank draws?in addition to paying yourself a salary. It can be strategic and cost-saving, for example, to pay yourself a smaller salary (w2 income) and then supplement it with bank draws, which are not subject to payroll tax. Lastly?you may consider an S-corp/C corp biz formation, vs LLC. Basic rundown on formation types for single person companies: https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/s-corp-vs-llc Hope this helps! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob at 2disc.com Mon Oct 21 14:59:43 2019 From: rob at 2disc.com (Rob Laporte) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 14:59:43 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Recordable CD-R and DVD-R discs for FREE! In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Almost immediately everything was taken except mice, keyboards and UPSs, so If I don't reply to individuals, that's why. ________________________________ From: Rob Laporte Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 6:19 AM To: hidden-discuss ; David F. Farkas Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Recordable CD-R and DVD-R discs for FREE! 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Close to town but tucked away. I'm not looking to do this but it occurs to me that maybe one of you might be. Let me know if you want more info. Val *_____________________________________Val Nelson* THE BLACK SWAN COACH * for Introverted Women with Big Hearts* Life ~ Livelihood ~ Impact ValNelson.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the at otherrealm.org Tue Oct 22 00:23:04 2019 From: the at otherrealm.org (Aaron E-J) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 20:23:04 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78fd8d1c-b5ca-c816-6fb1-5108c66d6b48@otherrealm.org> Yes, I am, although I am looking for a space that is conducive to setting up a small shop and electronics fabrication space, maybe eventually a wet lab ? would this space be a good fit for this?Do you have the exact address and know how much the lease is?Is anyone else interested in such a thing?A while ago I made some move to get a makerspace set up in the East/Northampton/Holyoke area and I'm interested in seeing if anyone else is still interested again.As I put forward a week or two ago on this listserv, I am interested in changing the way employment is done, or at least creating another way to go about it (link to the idea, also below: https://otherrealm.org/Economy ).I would like to get a group of people who are equally disenfranchised with the competitive nature of employment and business dealings and are interested in working together on creating such a worker cooperative model.Please let me know if you are interested, I will be setting up some meeting events to try to gather support so stay tuned. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A discussion that was going on a local tech entrepreneur listserve about the need to work for less than a fair wage when doing contract work got me thinking of an idea I had a while back. ?The idea is a kind of 'jobs fair' that would be open to anyone, and anyone who attended would be either guaranteed a job or funding for a startup.? The amount of time that people spend competing for: first a college degree, then a job, then maybe funding for a business idea, is enormous.? It can often result in needing to compromise your moral principles and spend most of your time doing things in areas you are not passionate about. ?Constantly needing to be judged and being told that you are not as good as someone else who got the job you wanted, puts a tremendous toll on your wellbeing and desire to interact with others.? On the other side, someone looking to hire the right person has to spend a considerable amount of time wading through tons of applicants before eventually arriving at someone you actually want to hire.? And if you have an ounce of empathy, constantly needing to turn people down because they are not the right fit feels horrible. The way I conceived of the 'job fair' working would be in two stages. The first stage would be a sign up and stakeholder gathering phase. ?Job seekers would fill out an online form detailing their skills and interests and any ideas for solutions to unsolved problems they had. Employers (worker coops and businesses that agree to not throw their employees under the proverbial bus if the job does not work out) would sign up and agree to employ people to work /with/ them and not /for/ them.? Business investors and venture capitalists would sign up and work on forming business ideas with people who do not see an existing role with any of the existing business that are hiring. Then the second stage would be the actual conference where everyone gets to know each other and job seekers and job fillers seek mutual skills and interests.? The people who do not have career goals and skills in line with those being sought, and those with business ideas they are looking to actualize, would work with the business investors and venture capitalists. ?Together, they would form new worker cooperative businesses around the solutions previously identified in the first stage that everyone on the table can get behind.? These cooperatives would act as holons , each independent entities, but with the ability to utilize each other's resources to some extent.? There would also be a buffer fund established that all the cooperatives earning a positive income would contribute to and those needing more income could draw from.? The way the investors would get compensated is that they would be seen as one of the cooperatives. If the investors want to withdraw some of their investment, their financial balance would be negative and therefore a proportion of the buffer fund will go to them.? This siphoning of money to an investor will only continue until a previously agreed upon return on investment is achieved or the person invests more money back into the system. ?Because the contribution will only be a portion of the /profit/, if some or all cooperatives are not earning a profit, they will not need to contribute to the buffer. Obviously exact details will need to be worked out when more people get involved, but that is the general way I am envisioning the financing working. ?It may also make sense to involve colleges and others in the education sphere.? They could be seen as business investors. ?Although they may not be providing financial support, they can still provide significant resources and as a result have a share of the profit. However, the exact nature of their compensation would need to be figured out because education is rarely easily quantifiable. The important point in all this is that people are not competing ? there would be the explicit edict that no one is left out and no one is forced to do things they have no desire to do (of course it may be necessary for some people to do undesired tasks, but these tasks should be for the purpose of fulfilling desired goals). What do people think of this idea and is anyone interested in working on it with me?? I would not be surprised if we could get some grant funding to get the ball rolling. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Aaron E-J The Other Realm LLC http://otherrealm.org http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) On 2019-10-21 5:13 PM, Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > HI HTers, > Have you considered forming a coworking space? I know of an amazing > space that just opened up that just looks like it's waiting for a > coworking space to step in. It's in Northampton, in a beautiful > setting. With off-street parking. Close to town but tucked away. > > I'm not looking to do this but it occurs to me that maybe one of you > might be. > > Let me know if you want more info. > > Val > > *_____________________________________ > Val Nelson* > > THE BLACK SWAN COACH > /?for Introverted Women with Big Hearts/ > Life ~ Livelihood ~ Impact > > ValNelson.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We were in the same boat last year after buying our appliances from Besko In Easthampton (highly recommended). They referred us to a gentleman named Shawn Forest who specializes in such work, which was obvious when he started to do his thing. His number is 413-210-6061. Good luck. Sheldon J. Sheldon Snodgrass *Watch my sales lesson here* www.SteadySales.com 413-244-2294 On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:32 AM dlesser--- via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > > We are looking to have someone install a hood over our range top. There > will be some tile work as well (we have the tile) so the person we > currently use is not suitable. Any recommendations? > > > > > > Don Lesser > > 139B Damon Road > > Northampton, MA 01060 > > dlesser at ptraining.com > > 413 387-1040 > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the at otherrealm.org Wed Oct 23 01:39:54 2019 From: the at otherrealm.org (Aaron E-J) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 21:39:54 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? In-Reply-To: References: <78fd8d1c-b5ca-c816-6fb1-5108c66d6b48@otherrealm.org> Message-ID: <87f2a23e-3d16-f243-2566-6c54f1d326f4@otherrealm.org> In terms of the the theory side of things (coop structure, sociocracy, ex.) I am all set, it is more just a matter of finding people who are interested in committing a bit of time and resources along with me to get things set up.? That's the first step, after that, then we can begin thinking about money and a location. Aaron E-J The Other Realm LLC http://otherrealm.org http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) On 2019-10-22 6:36 PM, Andrew Bellak wrote: > > This is an interesting thread. > > It make me think of several people and organizations in the Pioneer > Valley that I'd like to mention in case you want to connect with them > on this idea. > > For coops, there's Coop Power, Cooperative Fund of New England and > Wellspring Cooperatives. > > For holocracy, there's Ingrid Bredenberg although she may have moved > out of the area. > > If you think sociocracy is related enough, there's > http://sociocracyforall.org/about/ and folks based in Amherst. > > And I believe Paul Silva ran Click Work Space in Northampton, maybe he > started it? > > And I know the folks at Amherst Works co-working space. > > All that to say that there are good resources in the Valley. > > Regards, > > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Bellak > CEO > Registered Investment Advisor > > Andrew at StakeholdersCapital.com > (o) 888-STK-HLDR (785-4537) x.2 > (f) 888-735-HLDR (4537) > > skype = andrewbellak > twitter = @andrewbellak, @stakeholderscap > > This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. 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If you do not want to receive similar commercial electronic mail messages in the future from Stakeholders Capital, you may change your e-mail preferences at any time by contacting our office. > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > On 10/21/2019 8:23 PM, Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> Yes, I am, although I am looking for a space that is conducive to >> setting up a small shop and electronics fabrication space, maybe >> eventually a wet lab ? would this space be a good fit for this?Do you >> have the exact address and know how much the lease is?Is anyone else >> interested in such a thing?A while ago I made some move to get a >> makerspace set up in the East/Northampton/Holyoke area and I'm >> interested in seeing if anyone else is still interested again.As I >> put forward a week or two ago on this listserv, I am interested in >> changing the way employment is done, or at least creating another way >> to go about it (link to the idea, also below: >> https://otherrealm.org/Economy ).I would like to get a group of >> people who are equally disenfranchised with the competitive nature of >> employment and business dealings and are interested in working >> together on creating such a worker cooperative model.Please let me >> know if you are interested, I will be setting up some meeting events >> to try to gather support so stay tuned. >> >> Thanks! >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ????????? A discussion that was going on a local tech >> entrepreneur listserve about the need to work for less than a >> fair wage when doing contract work got me thinking of an idea I >> had a while back. ?The idea is a kind of 'jobs fair' that would >> be open to anyone, and anyone who attended would be either >> guaranteed a job or funding for a startup.? The amount of time >> that people spend competing for: first a college degree, then a >> job, then maybe funding for a business idea, is enormous.? It can >> often result in needing to compromise your moral principles and >> spend most of your time doing things in areas you are not >> passionate about. ?Constantly needing to be judged and being told >> that you are not as good as someone else who got the job you >> wanted, puts a tremendous toll on your wellbeing and desire to >> interact with others.? On the other side, someone looking to hire >> the right person has to spend a considerable amount of time >> wading through tons of applicants before eventually arriving at >> someone you actually want to hire.? And if you have an ounce of >> empathy, constantly needing to turn people down because they are >> not the right fit feels horrible. >> >> ????????? The way I conceived of the 'job fair' working would be >> in two stages. >> >> ????????? The first stage would be a sign up and stakeholder >> gathering phase. ?Job seekers would fill out an online form >> detailing their skills and interests and any ideas for solutions >> to unsolved problems they had.? Employers (worker coops and >> businesses that agree to not throw their employees under the >> proverbial bus if the job does not work out) would sign up and >> agree to employ people to work /with/ them and not /for/ them.? >> Business investors and venture capitalists would sign up and work >> on forming business ideas with people who do not see an existing >> role with any of the existing business that are hiring. >> >> ????????? Then the second stage would be the actual conference >> where everyone gets to know each other and job seekers and job >> fillers seek mutual skills and interests.? The people who do not >> have career goals and skills in line with those being sought, and >> those with business ideas they are looking to actualize, would >> work with the business investors and venture capitalists. >> ?Together, they would form new worker cooperative businesses >> around the solutions previously identified in the first stage >> that everyone on the table can get behind.? These cooperatives >> would act as holons >> , each >> independent entities, but with the ability to utilize each >> other's resources to some extent.? There would also be a buffer >> fund established that all the cooperatives earning a positive >> income would contribute to and those needing more income could >> draw from.? The way the investors would get compensated is that >> they would be seen as one of the cooperatives.? If the investors >> want to withdraw some of their investment, their financial >> balance would be negative and therefore a proportion of the >> buffer fund will go to them.? This siphoning of money to an >> investor will only continue until a previously agreed upon return >> on investment is achieved or the person invests more money back >> into the system. ?Because the contribution will only be a portion >> of the /profit/, if some or all cooperatives are not earning a >> profit, they will not need to contribute to the buffer.? >> Obviously exact details will need to be worked out when more >> people get involved, but that is the general way I am envisioning >> the financing working. ?It may also make sense to involve >> colleges and others in the education sphere.? They could be seen >> as business investors. ?Although they may not be providing >> financial support, they can still provide significant resources >> and as a result have a share of the profit.? However, the exact >> nature of their compensation would need to be figured out because >> education is rarely easily quantifiable. >> >> ????????? The important point in all this is that people are not >> competing ? there would be the explicit edict that no one is left >> out and no one is forced to do things they have no desire to do >> (of course it may be necessary for some people to do undesired >> tasks, but these tasks should be for the purpose of fulfilling >> desired goals). >> >> ????????? What do people think of this idea and is anyone >> interested in working on it with me?? I would not be surprised if >> we could get some grant funding to get the ball rolling. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Aaron E-J >> The Other Realm LLC >> http://otherrealm.org >> http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) >> On 2019-10-21 5:13 PM, Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> HI HTers, >>> Have you considered forming a coworking space? I know of an amazing >>> space that just opened up that just looks like it's waiting for a >>> coworking space to step in. It's in Northampton, in a beautiful >>> setting. With off-street parking. Close to town but tucked away. >>> >>> I'm not looking to do this but it occurs to me that maybe one of you >>> might be. >>> >>> Let me know if you want more info. >>> >>> Val >>> >>> *_____________________________________ >>> Val Nelson* >>> >>> THE BLACK SWAN COACH >>> /?for Introverted Women with Big Hearts/ >>> Life ~ Livelihood ~ Impact >>> >>> ValNelson.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com > ______________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shel at principledprofit.com Wed Oct 23 15:25:10 2019 From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 11:25:10 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? In-Reply-To: <87f2a23e-3d16-f243-2566-6c54f1d326f4@otherrealm.org> References: <78fd8d1c-b5ca-c816-6fb1-5108c66d6b48@otherrealm.org> <87f2a23e-3d16-f243-2566-6c54f1d326f4@otherrealm.org> Message-ID: Co-working spaces in the Valley go back at least to the mid-80s and the Creamery Building on Fearing Street in Amherst. The person I've dealt with at Click is named Mary. I don't now her last name. She's always there for the arts events, anyway. There are also some cool Maker spaces in Holyoke (and I think Easthampton also) in some of the old mills that might be more suitable for fabrication. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 ** * (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:39 PM Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > In terms of the the theory side of things (coop structure, sociocracy, > ex.) I am all set, it is more just a matter of finding people who are > interested in committing a bit of time and resources along with me to get > things set up. That's the first step, after that, then we can begin > thinking about money and a location. > > Aaron E-J > The Other Realm LLChttp://otherrealm.orghttp://theotherrealm.org (Blog) > > On 2019-10-22 6:36 PM, Andrew Bellak wrote: > > This is an interesting thread. > > It make me think of several people and organizations in the Pioneer Valley > that I'd like to mention in case you want to connect with them on this idea. > > For coops, there's Coop Power, Cooperative Fund of New England and > Wellspring Cooperatives. > > For holocracy, there's Ingrid Bredenberg although she may have moved out > of the area. > > If you think sociocracy is related enough, there's > http://sociocracyforall.org/about/ and folks based in Amherst. > > And I believe Paul Silva ran Click Work Space in Northampton, maybe he > started it? > > And I know the folks at Amherst Works co-working space. > > All that to say that there are good resources in the Valley. > > Regards, > > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Bellak > CEO > Registered Investment Advisor > Andrew at StakeholdersCapital.com > (o) 888-STK-HLDR (785-4537) x.2 > (f) 888-735-HLDR (4537) > > skype = andrewbellak > twitter = @andrewbellak, @stakeholderscap > > This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, > dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an > offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Stakeholders Capital. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. > Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. This e-mail may be considered > advertising under federal law. If you do not want to receive similar commercial electronic mail messages in the future from Stakeholders Capital, you may change your e-mail preferences at any time by contacting our office. > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > On 10/21/2019 8:23 PM, Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Yes, I am, although I am looking for a space that is conducive to setting > up a small shop and electronics fabrication space, maybe eventually a wet > lab ? would this space be a good fit for this? Do you have the exact > address and know how much the lease is? Is anyone else interested in > such a thing? A while ago I made some move to get a makerspace set up in > the East/Northampton/Holyoke area and I'm interested in seeing if anyone > else is still interested again. As I put forward a week or two ago on > this listserv, I am interested in changing the way employment is done, or > at least creating another way to go about it (link to the idea, also below: > https://otherrealm.org/Economy ). I would like to get a group of people > who are equally disenfranchised with the competitive nature of employment > and business dealings and are interested in working together on creating > such a worker cooperative model. Please let me know if you are > interested, I will be setting up some meeting events to try to gather > support so stay tuned. > > Thanks! > ------------------------------ > > A discussion that was going on a local tech entrepreneur > listserve about the need to work for less than a fair wage when doing > contract work got me thinking of an idea I had a while back. The idea is a > kind of 'jobs fair' that would be open to anyone, and anyone who attended > would be either guaranteed a job or funding for a startup. The amount of > time that people spend competing for: first a college degree, then a job, > then maybe funding for a business idea, is enormous. It can often result > in needing to compromise your moral principles and spend most of your time > doing things in areas you are not passionate about. Constantly needing to > be judged and being told that you are not as good as someone else who got > the job you wanted, puts a tremendous toll on your wellbeing and desire to > interact with others. On the other side, someone looking to hire the right > person has to spend a considerable amount of time wading through tons of > applicants before eventually arriving at someone you actually want to > hire. And if you have an ounce of empathy, constantly needing to turn > people down because they are not the right fit feels horrible. > > The way I conceived of the 'job fair' working would be in two > stages. > > The first stage would be a sign up and stakeholder gathering > phase. Job seekers would fill out an online form detailing their skills > and interests and any ideas for solutions to unsolved problems they had. > Employers (worker coops and businesses that agree to not throw their > employees under the proverbial bus if the job does not work out) would sign > up and agree to employ people to work *with* them and not *for* them. > Business investors and venture capitalists would sign up and work on > forming business ideas with people who do not see an existing role with any > of the existing business that are hiring. > > Then the second stage would be the actual conference where > everyone gets to know each other and job seekers and job fillers seek > mutual skills and interests. The people who do not have career goals and > skills in line with those being sought, and those with business ideas they > are looking to actualize, would work with the business investors and > venture capitalists. Together, they would form new worker cooperative > businesses around the solutions previously identified in the first stage > that everyone on the table can get behind. These cooperatives would act as > holons , each > independent entities, but with the ability to utilize each other's > resources to some extent. There would also be a buffer fund established > that all the cooperatives earning a positive income would contribute to and > those needing more income could draw from. The way the investors would get > compensated is that they would be seen as one of the cooperatives. If the > investors want to withdraw some of their investment, their financial > balance would be negative and therefore a proportion of the buffer fund > will go to them. This siphoning of money to an investor will only continue > until a previously agreed upon return on investment is achieved or the > person invests more money back into the system. Because the contribution > will only be a portion of the *profit*, if some or all cooperatives are > not earning a profit, they will not need to contribute to the buffer. > Obviously exact details will need to be worked out when more people get > involved, but that is the general way I am envisioning the financing > working. It may also make sense to involve colleges and others in the > education sphere. They could be seen as business investors. Although they > may not be providing financial support, they can still provide significant > resources and as a result have a share of the profit. However, the exact > nature of their compensation would need to be figured out because education > is rarely easily quantifiable. > > The important point in all this is that people are not competing > ? there would be the explicit edict that no one is left out and no one is > forced to do things they have no desire to do (of course it may be > necessary for some people to do undesired tasks, but these tasks should be > for the purpose of fulfilling desired goals). > > What do people think of this idea and is anyone interested in > working on it with me? I would not be surprised if we could get some grant > funding to get the ball rolling. > > ------------------------------ > > > Aaron E-J > The Other Realm LLChttp://otherrealm.orghttp://theotherrealm.org (Blog) > > On 2019-10-21 5:13 PM, Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > HI HTers, > Have you considered forming a coworking space? I know of an amazing space > that just opened up that just looks like it's waiting for a coworking space > to step in. It's in Northampton, in a beautiful setting. With off-street > parking. Close to town but tucked away. > > I'm not looking to do this but it occurs to me that maybe one of you might > be. > > Let me know if you want more info. > > Val > > > *_____________________________________ Val Nelson* > > THE BLACK SWAN COACH > * for Introverted Women with Big Hearts* > Life ~ Livelihood ~ Impact > > ValNelson.com > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From val at valnelson.com Wed Oct 23 18:32:46 2019 From: val at valnelson.com (Val Nelson) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 14:32:46 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? In-Reply-To: References: <78fd8d1c-b5ca-c816-6fb1-5108c66d6b48@otherrealm.org> <87f2a23e-3d16-f243-2566-6c54f1d326f4@otherrealm.org> Message-ID: Love your idea Aaron and your interest in cooperatives and sociocracy. This space is more office like, not a maker space. Val On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:38 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Co-working spaces in the Valley go back at least to the mid-80s and the > Creamery Building on Fearing Street in Amherst. The person I've dealt with > at Click is named Mary. I don't now her last name. She's always there for > the arts events, anyway. There are also some cool Maker spaces in Holyoke > (and I think Easthampton also) in some of the old mills that might be more > suitable for fabrication. > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) > ________________________________________________ > Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > ** > * > (move your mouse to "event videos") > > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > > Twitter: @shelhorowitz > > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: > Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad > Levinson) > > _________________________________________________ > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:39 PM Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> In terms of the the theory side of things (coop structure, sociocracy, >> ex.) I am all set, it is more just a matter of finding people who are >> interested in committing a bit of time and resources along with me to get >> things set up. That's the first step, after that, then we can begin >> thinking about money and a location. >> >> Aaron E-J >> The Other Realm LLChttp://otherrealm.orghttp://theotherrealm.org (Blog) >> >> On 2019-10-22 6:36 PM, Andrew Bellak wrote: >> >> This is an interesting thread. >> >> It make me think of several people and organizations in the Pioneer >> Valley that I'd like to mention in case you want to connect with them on >> this idea. >> >> For coops, there's Coop Power, Cooperative Fund of New England and >> Wellspring Cooperatives. >> >> For holocracy, there's Ingrid Bredenberg although she may have moved out >> of the area. >> >> If you think sociocracy is related enough, there's >> http://sociocracyforall.org/about/ and folks based in Amherst. >> >> And I believe Paul Silva ran Click Work Space in Northampton, maybe he >> started it? >> >> And I know the folks at Amherst Works co-working space. >> >> All that to say that there are good resources in the Valley. >> >> Regards, >> >> Andrew >> >> -- >> Andrew Bellak >> CEO >> Registered Investment Advisor >> Andrew at StakeholdersCapital.com >> (o) 888-STK-HLDR (785-4537) x.2 >> (f) 888-735-HLDR (4537) >> >> skype = andrewbellak >> twitter = @andrewbellak, @stakeholderscap >> >> This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. 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If you do not want to receive similar commercial electronic mail messages in the future from Stakeholders Capital, you may change your e-mail preferences at any time by contacting our office. >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> On 10/21/2019 8:23 PM, Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> Yes, I am, although I am looking for a space that is conducive to setting >> up a small shop and electronics fabrication space, maybe eventually a wet >> lab ? would this space be a good fit for this? Do you have the exact >> address and know how much the lease is? Is anyone else interested in >> such a thing? A while ago I made some move to get a makerspace set up >> in the East/Northampton/Holyoke area and I'm interested in seeing if anyone >> else is still interested again. As I put forward a week or two ago on >> this listserv, I am interested in changing the way employment is done, or >> at least creating another way to go about it (link to the idea, also below: >> https://otherrealm.org/Economy ). I would like to get a group of people >> who are equally disenfranchised with the competitive nature of employment >> and business dealings and are interested in working together on creating >> such a worker cooperative model. Please let me know if you are >> interested, I will be setting up some meeting events to try to gather >> support so stay tuned. >> >> Thanks! >> ------------------------------ >> >> A discussion that was going on a local tech entrepreneur >> listserve about the need to work for less than a fair wage when doing >> contract work got me thinking of an idea I had a while back. The idea is a >> kind of 'jobs fair' that would be open to anyone, and anyone who attended >> would be either guaranteed a job or funding for a startup. The amount of >> time that people spend competing for: first a college degree, then a job, >> then maybe funding for a business idea, is enormous. It can often result >> in needing to compromise your moral principles and spend most of your time >> doing things in areas you are not passionate about. Constantly needing to >> be judged and being told that you are not as good as someone else who got >> the job you wanted, puts a tremendous toll on your wellbeing and desire to >> interact with others. On the other side, someone looking to hire the right >> person has to spend a considerable amount of time wading through tons of >> applicants before eventually arriving at someone you actually want to >> hire. And if you have an ounce of empathy, constantly needing to turn >> people down because they are not the right fit feels horrible. >> >> The way I conceived of the 'job fair' working would be in two >> stages. >> >> The first stage would be a sign up and stakeholder gathering >> phase. Job seekers would fill out an online form detailing their skills >> and interests and any ideas for solutions to unsolved problems they had. >> Employers (worker coops and businesses that agree to not throw their >> employees under the proverbial bus if the job does not work out) would sign >> up and agree to employ people to work *with* them and not *for* them. >> Business investors and venture capitalists would sign up and work on >> forming business ideas with people who do not see an existing role with any >> of the existing business that are hiring. >> >> Then the second stage would be the actual conference where >> everyone gets to know each other and job seekers and job fillers seek >> mutual skills and interests. The people who do not have career goals and >> skills in line with those being sought, and those with business ideas they >> are looking to actualize, would work with the business investors and >> venture capitalists. Together, they would form new worker cooperative >> businesses around the solutions previously identified in the first stage >> that everyone on the table can get behind. These cooperatives would act as >> holons , each >> independent entities, but with the ability to utilize each other's >> resources to some extent. There would also be a buffer fund established >> that all the cooperatives earning a positive income would contribute to and >> those needing more income could draw from. The way the investors would get >> compensated is that they would be seen as one of the cooperatives. If the >> investors want to withdraw some of their investment, their financial >> balance would be negative and therefore a proportion of the buffer fund >> will go to them. This siphoning of money to an investor will only continue >> until a previously agreed upon return on investment is achieved or the >> person invests more money back into the system. Because the contribution >> will only be a portion of the *profit*, if some or all cooperatives are >> not earning a profit, they will not need to contribute to the buffer. >> Obviously exact details will need to be worked out when more people get >> involved, but that is the general way I am envisioning the financing >> working. It may also make sense to involve colleges and others in the >> education sphere. They could be seen as business investors. Although they >> may not be providing financial support, they can still provide significant >> resources and as a result have a share of the profit. However, the exact >> nature of their compensation would need to be figured out because education >> is rarely easily quantifiable. >> >> The important point in all this is that people are not >> competing ? there would be the explicit edict that no one is left out and >> no one is forced to do things they have no desire to do (of course it may >> be necessary for some people to do undesired tasks, but these tasks should >> be for the purpose of fulfilling desired goals). >> >> What do people think of this idea and is anyone interested in >> working on it with me? I would not be surprised if we could get some grant >> funding to get the ball rolling. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> Aaron E-J >> The Other Realm LLChttp://otherrealm.orghttp://theotherrealm.org (Blog) >> >> On 2019-10-21 5:13 PM, Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> HI HTers, >> Have you considered forming a coworking space? I know of an amazing space >> that just opened up that just looks like it's waiting for a coworking space >> to step in. It's in Northampton, in a beautiful setting. With off-street >> parking. Close to town but tucked away. >> >> I'm not looking to do this but it occurs to me that maybe one of you >> might be. >> >> Let me know if you want more info. >> >> Val >> >> >> *_____________________________________ Val Nelson* >> >> THE BLACK SWAN COACH >> * for Introverted Women with Big Hearts* >> Life ~ Livelihood ~ Impact >> >> ValNelson.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. >> For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ira at fambizpv.com Thu Oct 24 09:09:29 2019 From: ira at fambizpv.com (Ira Bryck) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:09:29 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? In-Reply-To: References: <78fd8d1c-b5ca-c816-6fb1-5108c66d6b48@otherrealm.org> <87f2a23e-3d16-f243-2566-6c54f1d326f4@otherrealm.org> Message-ID: I think this could be an opportunity to create a place that?s more beneficial to members than the now conventional structure and function. What are the strengths and weaknesses of the current template? For me (please suggest your own) STRENGTHS A place that doesn?t distract like working at home You belong there, not squatting at a coffee shop table that should be turning over more People are working, not the mixed uses of a coffee shop (socializing, etc) WEAKNESSES Monthly subscription costs create pressure to use it more than is useful, or be wasting your money Loud talkers, lack of privacy, even in glass closet Need to find a booth, whenever you want to talk on the phone All the negatives of a cubicle farm, without even those walls POSSIBLE DESIGN SOLUTIONS More flexible pricing Membership that allows for multiple locations (ie: like using multiple planets fitness) Pay with volunteerism in the host site (ie: if it was connected with a school or hospital) Cubicle walls are sound absorbing panels, that can easily be rejiggered to create flex spaces I think I know the location that Val is proposing, and agree this is an excellent location, and could be built to suit ? there is now enough known about shared workspaces to design the next generation. Ira Bryck From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Hidden tech list Reply-To: Val Nelson Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 5:12 PM To: Aaron E-J Cc: Hidden tech list Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? Love your idea Aaron and your interest in cooperatives and sociocracy. This space is more office like, not a maker space. Val On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:38 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss > wrote: Co-working spaces in the Valley go back at least to the mid-80s and the Creamery Building on Fearing Street in Amherst. The person I've dealt with at Click is named Mary. I don't now her last name. She's always there for the arts events, anyway. There are also some cool Maker spaces in Holyoke (and I think Easthampton also) in some of the old mills that might be more suitable for fabrication. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:39 PM Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss > wrote: In terms of the the theory side of things (coop structure, sociocracy, ex.) I am all set, it is more just a matter of finding people who are interested in committing a bit of time and resources along with me to get things set up. That's the first step, after that, then we can begin thinking about money and a location. Aaron E-J The Other Realm LLC http://otherrealm.org http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) On 2019-10-22 6:36 PM, Andrew Bellak wrote: This is an interesting thread. It make me think of several people and organizations in the Pioneer Valley that I'd like to mention in case you want to connect with them on this idea. For coops, there's Coop Power, Cooperative Fund of New England and Wellspring Cooperatives. For holocracy, there's Ingrid Bredenberg although she may have moved out of the area. If you think sociocracy is related enough, there's http://sociocracyforall.org/about/ and folks based in Amherst. And I believe Paul Silva ran Click Work Space in Northampton, maybe he started it? And I know the folks at Amherst Works co-working space. All that to say that there are good resources in the Valley. Regards, Andrew -- Andrew Bellak CEO Registered Investment Advisor Andrew at StakeholdersCapital.com (o) 888-STK-HLDR (785-4537) x.2 (f) 888-735-HLDR (4537) skype = andrewbellak twitter = @andrewbellak, @stakeholderscap This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Stakeholders Capital. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. This e-mail may be considered advertising under federal law. If you do not want to receive similar commercial electronic mail messages in the future from Stakeholders Capital, you may change your e-mail preferences at any time by contacting our office. Please consider the environment before printing this email. On 10/21/2019 8:23 PM, Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss wrote: Yes, I am, although I am looking for a space that is conducive to setting up a small shop and electronics fabrication space, maybe eventually a wet lab ? would this space be a good fit for this? Do you have the exact address and know how much the lease is? Is anyone else interested in such a thing? A while ago I made some move to get a makerspace set up in the East/Northampton/Holyoke area and I'm interested in seeing if anyone else is still interested again. As I put forward a week or two ago on this listserv, I am interested in changing the way employment is done, or at least creating another way to go about it (link to the idea, also below: https://otherrealm.org/Economy ). I would like to get a group of people who are equally disenfranchised with the competitive nature of employment and business dealings and are interested in working together on creating such a worker cooperative model. Please let me know if you are interested, I will be setting up some meeting events to try to gather support so stay tuned. Thanks! ________________________________ A discussion that was going on a local tech entrepreneur listserve about the need to work for less than a fair wage when doing contract work got me thinking of an idea I had a while back. The idea is a kind of 'jobs fair' that would be open to anyone, and anyone who attended would be either guaranteed a job or funding for a startup. The amount of time that people spend competing for: first a college degree, then a job, then maybe funding for a business idea, is enormous. It can often result in needing to compromise your moral principles and spend most of your time doing things in areas you are not passionate about. Constantly needing to be judged and being told that you are not as good as someone else who got the job you wanted, puts a tremendous toll on your wellbeing and desire to interact with others. On the other side, someone looking to hire the right person has to spend a considerable amount of time wading through tons of applicants before eventually arriving at someone you actually want to hire. And if you have an ounce of empathy, constantly needing to turn people down because they are not the right fit feels horrible. The way I conceived of the 'job fair' working would be in two stages. The first stage would be a sign up and stakeholder gathering phase. Job seekers would fill out an online form detailing their skills and interests and any ideas for solutions to unsolved problems they had. Employers (worker coops and businesses that agree to not throw their employees under the proverbial bus if the job does not work out) would sign up and agree to employ people to work with them and not for them. Business investors and venture capitalists would sign up and work on forming business ideas with people who do not see an existing role with any of the existing business that are hiring. Then the second stage would be the actual conference where everyone gets to know each other and job seekers and job fillers seek mutual skills and interests. The people who do not have career goals and skills in line with those being sought, and those with business ideas they are looking to actualize, would work with the business investors and venture capitalists. Together, they would form new worker cooperative businesses around the solutions previously identified in the first stage that everyone on the table can get behind. These cooperatives would act as holons, each independent entities, but with the ability to utilize each other's resources to some extent. There would also be a buffer fund established that all the cooperatives earning a positive income would contribute to and those needing more income could draw from. The way the investors would get compensated is that they would be seen as one of the cooperatives. If the investors want to withdraw some of their investment, their financial balance would be negative and therefore a proportion of the buffer fund will go to them. This siphoning of money to an investor will only continue until a previously agreed upon return on investment is achieved or the person invests more money back into the system. Because the contribution will only be a portion of the profit, if some or all cooperatives are not earning a profit, they will not need to contribute to the buffer. Obviously exact details will need to be worked out when more people get involved, but that is the general way I am envisioning the financing working. It may also make sense to involve colleges and others in the education sphere. They could be seen as business investors. Although they may not be providing financial support, they can still provide significant resources and as a result have a share of the profit. However, the exact nature of their compensation would need to be figured out because education is rarely easily quantifiable. The important point in all this is that people are not competing ? there would be the explicit edict that no one is left out and no one is forced to do things they have no desire to do (of course it may be necessary for some people to do undesired tasks, but these tasks should be for the purpose of fulfilling desired goals). What do people think of this idea and is anyone interested in working on it with me? I would not be surprised if we could get some grant funding to get the ball rolling. ________________________________ Aaron E-J The Other Realm LLC http://otherrealm.org http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) On 2019-10-21 5:13 PM, Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: HI HTers, Have you considered forming a coworking space? I know of an amazing space that just opened up that just looks like it's waiting for a coworking space to step in. It's in Northampton, in a beautiful setting. With off-street parking. Close to town but tucked away. I'm not looking to do this but it occurs to me that maybe one of you might be. Let me know if you want more info. Val _____________________________________ Val Nelson THE BLACK SWAN COACH for Introverted Women with Big Hearts Life ~ Livelihood ~ Impact ValNelson.com _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. 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In-Reply-To: References: <78fd8d1c-b5ca-c816-6fb1-5108c66d6b48@otherrealm.org> <87f2a23e-3d16-f243-2566-6c54f1d326f4@otherrealm.org> Message-ID: I know Franklin County is a bit far afield for many people on this list, but I did want to share that Common Media has recently moved to a new coworking space in downtown Greenfield -- an expansion of the existing coworking space above Hawks and Reed. (Our office is opposite on Main St, above the new bakery, Rise Above.) So far we're having a very positive experience adjusting to a new cooperative model and would invite anyone to come visit. The space was built out and is managed by Greenspace Cowork ( https://greenspacecowork.com/) -- like Click, they work with a mix of anchor tenants (like us) and individual members. A few tech companies work exclusively out of the space. Kristi Ceccarossi, CEO *Common Media, Inc. *| 84 Russell St, Hadley MA | cell: 413-210-1803 | office: 413-259-6977 x107 | commonmedia.com On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 8:16 AM Ira Bryck via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I think this could be an opportunity to create a place that?s more > beneficial to members than the now conventional structure and function. > > > > What are the strengths and weaknesses of the current template? > > > > For me (please suggest your own) > > > > STRENGTHS > > A place that doesn?t distract like working at home > > You belong there, not squatting at a coffee shop table that should be > turning over more > > People are working, not the mixed uses of a coffee shop (socializing, etc) > > > > > > WEAKNESSES > > Monthly subscription costs create pressure to use it more than is useful, > or be wasting your money > > Loud talkers, lack of privacy, even in glass closet > > Need to find a booth, whenever you want to talk on the phone > > All the negatives of a cubicle farm, without even those walls > > > > > > POSSIBLE DESIGN SOLUTIONS > > More flexible pricing > > Membership that allows for multiple locations (ie: like using multiple > planets fitness) > > Pay with volunteerism in the host site (ie: if it was connected with a > school or hospital) > > Cubicle walls are sound absorbing panels, that can easily be rejiggered to > create flex spaces > > > > > > > > I think I know the location that Val is proposing, and agree this is an > excellent location, and could be built to suit ? there is now enough known > about shared workspaces to design the next generation. > > > > > > Ira Bryck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Hidden-discuss on > behalf of Hidden tech list > *Reply-To: *Val Nelson > *Date: *Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 5:12 PM > *To: *Aaron E-J > *Cc: *Hidden tech list > *Subject: *Re: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking > space? > > > > Love your idea Aaron and your interest in cooperatives and sociocracy. > > This space is more office like, not a maker space. > > > > Val > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:38 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > Co-working spaces in the Valley go back at least to the mid-80s and the > Creamery Building on Fearing Street in Amherst. The person I've dealt with > at Click is named Mary. I don't now her last name. She's always there for > the arts events, anyway. There are also some cool Maker spaces in Holyoke > (and I think Easthampton also) in some of the old mills that might be more > suitable for fabrication. > > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) > > ________________________________________________ > > Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, > > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > > *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > > * > > (move your mouse to "event videos") > > > > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > > > > Twitter: @shelhorowitz > > > > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > > > > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 > > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: > > Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad > Levinson) > > > > _________________________________________________ > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:39 PM Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > In terms of the the theory side of things (coop structure, sociocracy, > ex.) I am all set, it is more just a matter of finding people who are > interested in committing a bit of time and resources along with me to get > things set up. That's the first step, after that, then we can begin > thinking about money and a location. > > Aaron E-J > > The Other Realm LLC > > http://otherrealm.org > > http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) > > On 2019-10-22 6:36 PM, Andrew Bellak wrote: > > This is an interesting thread. > > It make me think of several people and organizations in the Pioneer Valley > that I'd like to mention in case you want to connect with them on this idea. > > For coops, there's Coop Power, Cooperative Fund of New England and > Wellspring Cooperatives. > > For holocracy, there's Ingrid Bredenberg although she may have moved out > of the area. > > If you think sociocracy is related enough, there's > http://sociocracyforall.org/about/ and folks based in Amherst. > > And I believe Paul Silva ran Click Work Space in Northampton, maybe he > started it? > > And I know the folks at Amherst Works co-working space. > > All that to say that there are good resources in the Valley. > > Regards, > > Andrew > > -- > > Andrew Bellak > > CEO > > Registered Investment Advisor > > > > Andrew at StakeholdersCapital.com > > (o) 888-STK-HLDR (785-4537) x.2 > > (f) 888-735-HLDR (4537) > > > > skype = andrewbellak > > twitter = @andrewbellak, @stakeholderscap > > > > This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. 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If you do not want to receive similar commercial electronic mail messages in the future from Stakeholders Capital, you may change your e-mail preferences at any time by contacting our office. > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > On 10/21/2019 8:23 PM, Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Yes, I am, although I am looking for a space that is conducive to setting > up a small shop and electronics fabrication space, maybe eventually a wet > lab ? would this space be a good fit for this? Do you have the exact > address and know how much the lease is? Is anyone else interested in such > a thing? A while ago I made some move to get a makerspace set up in the > East/Northampton/Holyoke area and I'm interested in seeing if anyone else > is still interested again. As I put forward a week or two ago on this > listserv, I am interested in changing the way employment is done, or at > least creating another way to go about it (link to the idea, also below: > https://otherrealm.org/Economy ). I would like to get a group of people > who are equally disenfranchised with the competitive nature of employment > and business dealings and are interested in working together on creating > such a worker cooperative model. Please let me know if you are interested, > I will be setting up some meeting events to try to gather support so stay > tuned. > > Thanks! > ------------------------------ > > A discussion that was going on a local tech entrepreneur > listserve about the need to work for less than a fair wage when doing > contract work got me thinking of an idea I had a while back. The idea is a > kind of 'jobs fair' that would be open to anyone, and anyone who attended > would be either guaranteed a job or funding for a startup. The amount of > time that people spend competing for: first a college degree, then a job, > then maybe funding for a business idea, is enormous. It can often result > in needing to compromise your moral principles and spend most of your time > doing things in areas you are not passionate about. Constantly needing to > be judged and being told that you are not as good as someone else who got > the job you wanted, puts a tremendous toll on your wellbeing and desire to > interact with others. On the other side, someone looking to hire the right > person has to spend a considerable amount of time wading through tons of > applicants before eventually arriving at someone you actually want to > hire. And if you have an ounce of empathy, constantly needing to turn > people down because they are not the right fit feels horrible. > > The way I conceived of the 'job fair' working would be in two > stages. > > The first stage would be a sign up and stakeholder gathering > phase. Job seekers would fill out an online form detailing their skills > and interests and any ideas for solutions to unsolved problems they had. > Employers (worker coops and businesses that agree to not throw their > employees under the proverbial bus if the job does not work out) would sign > up and agree to employ people to work *with* them and not *for* them. > Business investors and venture capitalists would sign up and work on > forming business ideas with people who do not see an existing role with any > of the existing business that are hiring. > > Then the second stage would be the actual conference where > everyone gets to know each other and job seekers and job fillers seek > mutual skills and interests. The people who do not have career goals and > skills in line with those being sought, and those with business ideas they > are looking to actualize, would work with the business investors and > venture capitalists. Together, they would form new worker cooperative > businesses around the solutions previously identified in the first stage > that everyone on the table can get behind. These cooperatives would act as > holons , each > independent entities, but with the ability to utilize each other's > resources to some extent. There would also be a buffer fund established > that all the cooperatives earning a positive income would contribute to and > those needing more income could draw from. The way the investors would get > compensated is that they would be seen as one of the cooperatives. If the > investors want to withdraw some of their investment, their financial > balance would be negative and therefore a proportion of the buffer fund > will go to them. This siphoning of money to an investor will only continue > until a previously agreed upon return on investment is achieved or the > person invests more money back into the system. Because the contribution > will only be a portion of the *profit*, if some or all cooperatives are > not earning a profit, they will not need to contribute to the buffer. > Obviously exact details will need to be worked out when more people get > involved, but that is the general way I am envisioning the financing > working. It may also make sense to involve colleges and others in the > education sphere. They could be seen as business investors. Although they > may not be providing financial support, they can still provide significant > resources and as a result have a share of the profit. However, the exact > nature of their compensation would need to be figured out because education > is rarely easily quantifiable. > > The important point in all this is that people are not competing > ? there would be the explicit edict that no one is left out and no one is > forced to do things they have no desire to do (of course it may be > necessary for some people to do undesired tasks, but these tasks should be > for the purpose of fulfilling desired goals). > > What do people think of this idea and is anyone interested in > working on it with me? I would not be surprised if we could get some grant > funding to get the ball rolling. > ------------------------------ > > > > Aaron E-J > > The Other Realm LLC > > http://otherrealm.org > > http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) > > On 2019-10-21 5:13 PM, Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > HI HTers, > > Have you considered forming a coworking space? I know of an amazing space > that just opened up that just looks like it's waiting for a coworking space > to step in. It's in Northampton, in a beautiful setting. With off-street > parking. Close to town but tucked away. > > > > I'm not looking to do this but it occurs to me that maybe one of you might > be. > > > > Let me know if you want more info. > > > > Val > > > > > *_____________________________________ Val Nelson* > > THE BLACK SWAN COACH > > * for Introverted Women with Big Hearts* > Life ~ Livelihood ~ Impact > > > > ValNelson.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shel at principledprofit.com Thu Oct 24 13:30:00 2019 From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 09:30:00 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? In-Reply-To: References: <78fd8d1c-b5ca-c816-6fb1-5108c66d6b48@otherrealm.org> <87f2a23e-3d16-f243-2566-6c54f1d326f4@otherrealm.org> Message-ID: Love this, Ira. I haven't used these spaces (and rarely even work at coffee shops unless I need air conditioning on a hot afternoon, and then I go at a very off-peak time) so haven't given much thought to how one could succeed. I think shared reception services and meeting space are part of the formula, though. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 ** * (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 5:09 AM Ira Bryck via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I think this could be an opportunity to create a place that?s more > beneficial to members than the now conventional structure and function. > > > > What are the strengths and weaknesses of the current template? > > > > For me (please suggest your own) > > > > STRENGTHS > > A place that doesn?t distract like working at home > > You belong there, not squatting at a coffee shop table that should be > turning over more > > People are working, not the mixed uses of a coffee shop (socializing, etc) > > > > > > WEAKNESSES > > Monthly subscription costs create pressure to use it more than is useful, > or be wasting your money > > Loud talkers, lack of privacy, even in glass closet > > Need to find a booth, whenever you want to talk on the phone > > All the negatives of a cubicle farm, without even those walls > > > > > > POSSIBLE DESIGN SOLUTIONS > > More flexible pricing > > Membership that allows for multiple locations (ie: like using multiple > planets fitness) > > Pay with volunteerism in the host site (ie: if it was connected with a > school or hospital) > > Cubicle walls are sound absorbing panels, that can easily be rejiggered to > create flex spaces > > > > > > > > I think I know the location that Val is proposing, and agree this is an > excellent location, and could be built to suit ? there is now enough known > about shared workspaces to design the next generation. > > > > > > Ira Bryck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Hidden-discuss on > behalf of Hidden tech list > *Reply-To: *Val Nelson > *Date: *Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 5:12 PM > *To: *Aaron E-J > *Cc: *Hidden tech list > *Subject: *Re: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking > space? > > > > Love your idea Aaron and your interest in cooperatives and sociocracy. > > This space is more office like, not a maker space. > > > > Val > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:38 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > Co-working spaces in the Valley go back at least to the mid-80s and the > Creamery Building on Fearing Street in Amherst. The person I've dealt with > at Click is named Mary. I don't now her last name. She's always there for > the arts events, anyway. There are also some cool Maker spaces in Holyoke > (and I think Easthampton also) in some of the old mills that might be more > suitable for fabrication. > > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) > > ________________________________________________ > > Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, > > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > > *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > > * > > (move your mouse to "event videos") > > > > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > > > > Twitter: @shelhorowitz > > > > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > > > > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 > > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: > > Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad > Levinson) > > > > _________________________________________________ > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:39 PM Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > In terms of the the theory side of things (coop structure, sociocracy, > ex.) I am all set, it is more just a matter of finding people who are > interested in committing a bit of time and resources along with me to get > things set up. That's the first step, after that, then we can begin > thinking about money and a location. > > Aaron E-J > > The Other Realm LLC > > http://otherrealm.org > > http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) > > On 2019-10-22 6:36 PM, Andrew Bellak wrote: > > This is an interesting thread. > > It make me think of several people and organizations in the Pioneer Valley > that I'd like to mention in case you want to connect with them on this idea. > > For coops, there's Coop Power, Cooperative Fund of New England and > Wellspring Cooperatives. > > For holocracy, there's Ingrid Bredenberg although she may have moved out > of the area. > > If you think sociocracy is related enough, there's > http://sociocracyforall.org/about/ and folks based in Amherst. > > And I believe Paul Silva ran Click Work Space in Northampton, maybe he > started it? > > And I know the folks at Amherst Works co-working space. > > All that to say that there are good resources in the Valley. > > Regards, > > Andrew > > -- > > Andrew Bellak > > CEO > > Registered Investment Advisor > > > > Andrew at StakeholdersCapital.com > > (o) 888-STK-HLDR (785-4537) x.2 > > (f) 888-735-HLDR (4537) > > > > skype = andrewbellak > > twitter = @andrewbellak, @stakeholderscap > > > > This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, > > dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an > > offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Stakeholders Capital. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. > > Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. This e-mail may be considered > > advertising under federal law. If you do not want to receive similar commercial electronic mail messages in the future from Stakeholders Capital, you may change your e-mail preferences at any time by contacting our office. > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > On 10/21/2019 8:23 PM, Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Yes, I am, although I am looking for a space that is conducive to setting > up a small shop and electronics fabrication space, maybe eventually a wet > lab ? would this space be a good fit for this? Do you have the exact > address and know how much the lease is? Is anyone else interested in such > a thing? A while ago I made some move to get a makerspace set up in the > East/Northampton/Holyoke area and I'm interested in seeing if anyone else > is still interested again. As I put forward a week or two ago on this > listserv, I am interested in changing the way employment is done, or at > least creating another way to go about it (link to the idea, also below: > https://otherrealm.org/Economy ). I would like to get a group of people > who are equally disenfranchised with the competitive nature of employment > and business dealings and are interested in working together on creating > such a worker cooperative model. Please let me know if you are interested, > I will be setting up some meeting events to try to gather support so stay > tuned. > > Thanks! > ------------------------------ > > A discussion that was going on a local tech entrepreneur > listserve about the need to work for less than a fair wage when doing > contract work got me thinking of an idea I had a while back. The idea is a > kind of 'jobs fair' that would be open to anyone, and anyone who attended > would be either guaranteed a job or funding for a startup. The amount of > time that people spend competing for: first a college degree, then a job, > then maybe funding for a business idea, is enormous. It can often result > in needing to compromise your moral principles and spend most of your time > doing things in areas you are not passionate about. Constantly needing to > be judged and being told that you are not as good as someone else who got > the job you wanted, puts a tremendous toll on your wellbeing and desire to > interact with others. On the other side, someone looking to hire the right > person has to spend a considerable amount of time wading through tons of > applicants before eventually arriving at someone you actually want to > hire. And if you have an ounce of empathy, constantly needing to turn > people down because they are not the right fit feels horrible. > > The way I conceived of the 'job fair' working would be in two > stages. > > The first stage would be a sign up and stakeholder gathering > phase. Job seekers would fill out an online form detailing their skills > and interests and any ideas for solutions to unsolved problems they had. > Employers (worker coops and businesses that agree to not throw their > employees under the proverbial bus if the job does not work out) would sign > up and agree to employ people to work *with* them and not *for* them. > Business investors and venture capitalists would sign up and work on > forming business ideas with people who do not see an existing role with any > of the existing business that are hiring. > > Then the second stage would be the actual conference where > everyone gets to know each other and job seekers and job fillers seek > mutual skills and interests. The people who do not have career goals and > skills in line with those being sought, and those with business ideas they > are looking to actualize, would work with the business investors and > venture capitalists. Together, they would form new worker cooperative > businesses around the solutions previously identified in the first stage > that everyone on the table can get behind. These cooperatives would act as > holons , each > independent entities, but with the ability to utilize each other's > resources to some extent. There would also be a buffer fund established > that all the cooperatives earning a positive income would contribute to and > those needing more income could draw from. The way the investors would get > compensated is that they would be seen as one of the cooperatives. If the > investors want to withdraw some of their investment, their financial > balance would be negative and therefore a proportion of the buffer fund > will go to them. This siphoning of money to an investor will only continue > until a previously agreed upon return on investment is achieved or the > person invests more money back into the system. Because the contribution > will only be a portion of the *profit*, if some or all cooperatives are > not earning a profit, they will not need to contribute to the buffer. > Obviously exact details will need to be worked out when more people get > involved, but that is the general way I am envisioning the financing > working. It may also make sense to involve colleges and others in the > education sphere. They could be seen as business investors. Although they > may not be providing financial support, they can still provide significant > resources and as a result have a share of the profit. However, the exact > nature of their compensation would need to be figured out because education > is rarely easily quantifiable. > > The important point in all this is that people are not competing > ? there would be the explicit edict that no one is left out and no one is > forced to do things they have no desire to do (of course it may be > necessary for some people to do undesired tasks, but these tasks should be > for the purpose of fulfilling desired goals). > > What do people think of this idea and is anyone interested in > working on it with me? I would not be surprised if we could get some grant > funding to get the ball rolling. > ------------------------------ > > > > Aaron E-J > > The Other Realm LLC > > http://otherrealm.org > > http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) > > On 2019-10-21 5:13 PM, Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > HI HTers, > > Have you considered forming a coworking space? I know of an amazing space > that just opened up that just looks like it's waiting for a coworking space > to step in. It's in Northampton, in a beautiful setting. With off-street > parking. Close to town but tucked away. > > > > I'm not looking to do this but it occurs to me that maybe one of you might > be. > > > > Let me know if you want more info. > > > > Val > > > > > *_____________________________________ Val Nelson* > > THE BLACK SWAN COACH > > * for Introverted Women with Big Hearts* > Life ~ Livelihood ~ Impact > > > > ValNelson.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bluemoon at crocker.com Thu Oct 24 17:33:47 2019 From: bluemoon at crocker.com (bluemoon at crocker.com) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:33:47 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Pro-bono or for hire resources for non-profit association Message-ID: <0100016dfed4e16d-942a4737-c31c-4209-a63a-69867818fb42-000000@email.amazonses.com> Hi Folks, I am a member of a group of non-profits who have been gathering for roundtable discussions under the aegis of, but not as an official organization, the Northampton Chamber of Commerce. We discussed at the last meeting whether there might be someone(s) out there who would be interested in being on a resource list for tech oriented questions. It would be up to the participating organizations themselves as to whether they could afford actually to hire someone or would just want someone of whom they could ask simple questions on a pro-bono basis. I expect it would be a mix of both. We'll be meeting again in a couple of weeks and I can present to them the names of any folks who'd like to be included. If you are please let me know and include whether you'd be available just for hire or possibly for pro-bono as well. This is not a committment to work with anyone, just a statement that you'd be open to a conversation about what they needed and what your terms would be. Thanks, Gary Gary Powsner - Your Back Office Guy - I get things done! Virtual Assistant SolutionFinders http://www.linkedin.com/in/garypowsner/ Office 413-665-5011 Cell 413-537-9015 Shaklee Global Ambassador http://solutionfinders.myshaklee.com/us/en/ "Age may affect the physical body but it need not affect the power of thought." -Dr. Forrest C. Shaklee Help Feed the Hungry! Support the Food Bank. Donate to the 2019 Will Bike 4 Food ride!!! Just click here! https://www.Pledgereg.com/211659 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know the cost structure, nor how they're doing, but here's what it looks like: https://pittsfieldcoworking.com/about/ Ed Bride From: Hidden-discuss On Behalf Of Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 9:30 AM To: Ira Bryck Cc: Hidden-Tech Tech Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? Love this, Ira. I haven't used these spaces (and rarely even work at coffee shops unless I need air conditioning on a hot afternoon, and then I go at a very off-peak time) so haven't given much thought to how one could succeed. I think shared reception services and meeting space are part of the formula, though. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 5:09 AM Ira Bryck via Hidden-discuss > wrote: I think this could be an opportunity to create a place that?s more beneficial to members than the now conventional structure and function. What are the strengths and weaknesses of the current template? For me (please suggest your own) STRENGTHS A place that doesn?t distract like working at home You belong there, not squatting at a coffee shop table that should be turning over more People are working, not the mixed uses of a coffee shop (socializing, etc) WEAKNESSES Monthly subscription costs create pressure to use it more than is useful, or be wasting your money Loud talkers, lack of privacy, even in glass closet Need to find a booth, whenever you want to talk on the phone All the negatives of a cubicle farm, without even those walls POSSIBLE DESIGN SOLUTIONS More flexible pricing Membership that allows for multiple locations (ie: like using multiple planets fitness) Pay with volunteerism in the host site (ie: if it was connected with a school or hospital) Cubicle walls are sound absorbing panels, that can easily be rejiggered to create flex spaces I think I know the location that Val is proposing, and agree this is an excellent location, and could be built to suit ? there is now enough known about shared workspaces to design the next generation. Ira Bryck From: Hidden-discuss > on behalf of Hidden tech list > Reply-To: Val Nelson > Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 5:12 PM To: Aaron E-J > Cc: Hidden tech list > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? Love your idea Aaron and your interest in cooperatives and sociocracy. This space is more office like, not a maker space. Val On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:38 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss > wrote: Co-working spaces in the Valley go back at least to the mid-80s and the Creamery Building on Fearing Street in Amherst. The person I've dealt with at Click is named Mary. I don't now her last name. She's always there for the arts events, anyway. There are also some cool Maker spaces in Holyoke (and I think Easthampton also) in some of the old mills that might be more suitable for fabrication. ..>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan at 8wheels.org Fri Oct 25 01:36:47 2019 From: alan at 8wheels.org (Alan Frank) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 21:36:47 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? In-Reply-To: References: <78fd8d1c-b5ca-c816-6fb1-5108c66d6b48@otherrealm.org> <87f2a23e-3d16-f243-2566-6c54f1d326f4@otherrealm.org> Message-ID: I definitely like these two ideas, and think they might be doable in a way that increases usage for the spaces. There could be a multi-location membership even with separately owned/managed spaces if they tracked usage and split the fees. One of the things that wouldn't work well for me with most current spaces, as you noted, is the lack of support for phone meetings. Libraries and coffee shops aren't good either. --Alan > POSSIBLE DESIGN SOLUTIONS > > More flexible pricing > > Membership that allows for multiple locations (ie: like using multiple > planets fitness) > > Ira Bryck From jonathan at ptco.org Fri Oct 25 19:16:18 2019 From: jonathan at ptco.org (Jonathan Mirin) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:16:18 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Mentoring + Arts in the Valley Message-ID: *Dear Hidden-Techers,* *Piti Theatre is launching two new initiatives around ?mentoring? in which you might be interested.* *1. Valley Arts Mentors (VAM) is an idea in the incubation stage for a network for arts organizations in the Valley who do mentoring/teaching artist work. The network would also serve ?non-arts? organizations and businesses by facilitating internship and similar opportunities in a wide variety of fields (including ?tech?) for young people who had received some arts-based training. More info is available here: https://ptco.org/training/vam/ * *If this sounds worthwhile to you and is something you know you would like to learn more about or hope comes to fruition, we are collecting a list of ?interested businesses? to include in our search for implementation funding ? ie, the ability to actually serve you. Let me know ?off-list? if we can include you in this list or if I can answer any questions ? even better if you have 4 minutes to take the survey available on the VAM webpage . * *2. Valley Playwright Mentoring is a (different) new program Piti Theatre is launching for teens where they develop a performance based on stories from their lives. Rehearsals start in early November. Details here: https://ptco.org/training/vpm/ * *Thanks for sharing with any teens in your life who might be interested!* *Happy Fall, Jon* Jonathan Mirin / Godeli?ve Richard Piti Th??tre Company +1 (508) 439-2069 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dtkboomer at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 20:50:17 2019 From: dtkboomer at gmail.com (Dan Kirsch) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:50:17 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Opportunity for Local Nonprofits Message-ID: Holyoke-based Rainmaker Consulting is offering the first in a series of workshops for local nonprofits interested in transforming their capacity to fulfill their missions. Rainmaker has actually been a competitor of mine for years, but I'm so impressed with what they are offering to mission-driven orgs in the Valley, I am happy to promote this. Check out their innovative flipped fee structure, too. Building and Sustaining a Culture of Philanthropy Wednesday, November 6, 2019 Long before it was a trending concept, Rainmaker Consulting was working with clients across the country to establish the concept of a ?culture of philanthropy? that would exist across the entire organization. In this workshop, you will learn what a culture of philanthropy is and how to bring abundance and resource-rich approaches to your organization ? not just in name, but also in practical terms. This workshop is designed for anyone who is committed to enhancing their organization?s access to abundant resources including: senior leadership board leadership development professionals program staff All workshops are from 8:30 am ? 12:30 pm and take place at Valley Venture Mentors (VVM), 276 Bridge Street, Springfield, MA https://www.eventbrite.com/e/building-sustaining-a-culture-of-philanthropy-tickets-70289637197 Dan Kirsch Belchertown, MA dtkboomer at gmail.com 413.272.3205 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgdutton7 at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 21:12:59 2019 From: cgdutton7 at gmail.com (Christine Dutton) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 17:12:59 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Opportunity for Local Nonprofits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm just piping in that I highly recommend this consultant group! *Christine Dutton* *Dutton Consulting * *413-626-6377* On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 5:03 PM Dan Kirsch via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Holyoke-based Rainmaker Consulting is offering the first in a series of > workshops for local nonprofits interested in transforming their capacity to > fulfill their missions. > > Rainmaker has actually been a competitor of mine for years, but I'm so > impressed with what they are offering to mission-driven orgs in the Valley, > I am happy to promote this. > > Check out their innovative flipped fee structure, too. > > > > Building and Sustaining a Culture of Philanthropy > Wednesday, November 6, 2019 > > Long before it was a trending concept, Rainmaker Consulting was working > with clients across the country to establish the concept of a ?culture of > philanthropy? that would exist across the entire organization. In this > workshop, you will learn what a culture of philanthropy is and how to bring > abundance and resource-rich approaches to your organization ? not just in > name, but also in practical terms. > > This workshop is designed for anyone who is committed to enhancing their > organization?s access to abundant resources including: > > senior leadership > board leadership > development professionals > program staff > > > All workshops are from 8:30 am ? 12:30 pm and take place at Valley Venture > Mentors (VVM), 276 Bridge Street, Springfield, MA > > > https://www.eventbrite.com/e/building-sustaining-a-culture-of-philanthropy-tickets-70289637197 > > > > > > Dan Kirsch > Belchertown, MA > dtkboomer at gmail.com > 413.272.3205 > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sreed at avacoda.com Sat Oct 26 01:51:16 2019 From: sreed at avacoda.com (Scott Reed) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:51:16 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Opportunity for Local Nonprofits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9tt4mjhmetrcb2dapglqqb22.1572054674147@email.android.com> Most of the nonprofits I work with operate on a shoestring and I don't personally have $150 to spend on a four hour workshop. Looks like I'm stuck in my culture of deprivation. That said, it would be nice if I didn't have to feel fleeced in order to climb out. ? - Scott ? ? 413 210-0032 ________________________________ From: Dan Kirsch via Hidden-discuss Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 4:50 PM To: Hidden-Tech Tech Subject: [Hidden-tech] Opportunity for Local Nonprofits Holyoke-based Rainmaker Consulting is offering the first in a series of workshops for local nonprofits interested in transforming their capacity to fulfill their missions.? Rainmaker has actually been a competitor of mine for years, but I'm so impressed with what they are offering to mission-driven orgs in the Valley, I am happy to promote this.? Check out their innovative flipped fee structure, too. ? Building and Sustaining a Culture of Philanthropy Wednesday, November 6, 2019 Long before it was a trending concept, Rainmaker Consulting was working with clients across the country to establish the concept of a ?culture of philanthropy? that would exist across the entire organization. In this workshop, you will learn what a culture of philanthropy is and how to bring abundance and resource-rich approaches to your organization ? not just in name, but also in practical terms. This workshop is designed for anyone who is committed to enhancing their organization?s access to abundant resources including: senior leadership board leadership development professionals program staff All workshops are from 8:30 am ? 12:30 pm and take place at Valley Venture Mentors (VVM), 276 Bridge Street, Springfield, MA https://www.eventbrite.com/e/building-sustaining-a-culture-of-philanthropy-tickets-70289637197?? Dan Kirsch Belchertown, MA dtkboomer at gmail.com 413.272.3205 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shelhoro at gmail.com Sat Oct 26 13:03:12 2019 From: shelhoro at gmail.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 09:03:12 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Opportunity for Local Nonprofits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for sharing this, Dan. I was not aware of this group. While I am not involved in a non-profit oh, some of my clients are. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 ** * (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:50 PM Dan Kirsch via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > Holyoke-based Rainmaker Consulting is offering the first in a series of > workshops for local nonprofits interested in transforming their capacity to > fulfill their missions. > > Rainmaker has actually been a competitor of mine for years, but I'm so > impressed with what they are offering to mission-driven orgs in the Valley, > I am happy to promote this. > > Check out their innovative flipped fee structure, too. > > > > Building and Sustaining a Culture of Philanthropy > Wednesday, November 6, 2019 > > Long before it was a trending concept, Rainmaker Consulting was working > with clients across the country to establish the concept of a ?culture of > philanthropy? that would exist across the entire organization. In this > workshop, you will learn what a culture of philanthropy is and how to bring > abundance and resource-rich approaches to your organization ? not just in > name, but also in practical terms. > > This workshop is designed for anyone who is committed to enhancing their > organization?s access to abundant resources including: > > senior leadership > board leadership > development professionals > program staff > > > All workshops are from 8:30 am ? 12:30 pm and take place at Valley Venture > Mentors (VVM), 276 Bridge Street, Springfield, MA > > > https://www.eventbrite.com/e/building-sustaining-a-culture-of-philanthropy-tickets-70289637197 > > > > > > Dan Kirsch > Belchertown, MA > dtkboomer at gmail.com > 413.272.3205 > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To ask if my system is infected in some way, and if so, what's the best way to deal with it Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 ** * (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lynnerudiedesign at gmail.com Sun Oct 27 15:14:21 2019 From: lynnerudiedesign at gmail.com (Lynne Rudie) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 11:14:21 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Questionable Update-Your-Flash browser warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have had malicious update messages from Flash for a while. Do not click on the update button. Run Malware Bytes, or whatever similar protection you have to see if you have been infected, get rid of the malware. Then shut your computer down and reboot. Go to the adobe website to update your flash then shut down, reboot again. Flash does need to be updated sometimes but never trust or download anything flash-related except what is actually on the adobe website. Note: the first time this happened to me, and it was clear I had been hacked, I shut my computer down and called Apple. They called me back in about 3 minutes and talked me through it for free. They gave me a case number I could reactivate for free if the bogus flash comes up again ? which it does once in a while but now I know what to do about it. Flash is a pain in you know where, and it shouldnt be that easy to hack, I hope adobe is working on that vulnerability. Good luck! Lynne Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > ? > On a MacBookAir from I think 2012 (inherited computer), I got two different warnings to update my flash on two pages with no connection to each other. > > I am not sure what version of Chrome I was running but when I went to check, it started updating to Version 77.0.3865.90 (Official Build) (64-bit)(this is AFTER I received the Adobe updater messages). > > I am suspicious of these identical update messages. I figured if it was real, I could get it from the AppStore, and the update I have from November 2016 appears to be the current one. > > My reasons for writing: > To warn others about very real-looking fake update messages, and > To ask if my system is infected in some way, and if so, what's the best way to deal with it > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) > ________________________________________________ > Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > (move your mouse to "event videos") > > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > > Twitter: @shelhorowitz > > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: > Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > _________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zach at peoplefirst.tech Sun Oct 27 15:16:58 2019 From: zach at peoplefirst.tech (PeopleFirst Tech) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 11:16:58 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Questionable Update-Your-Flash browser warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Shel, Flash for Chrome is bundled within it, so you don't need to update it separately and that message is probably a scam. Additionally, if you have Flash installed for Safari and/or Firefox (and I advise against it), then it would need to receive updates from directly from Adobe. You can turn on the auto update option from the Flash preference pane and also check updates there, but to reiterate, I suggest uninstalling the standalone Flash and using Chrome for the rare site that still uses Flash in 2019. Download the uninstaller from Adobe: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-mac-os.html Avast antivirus for Mac: https://www.avast.com/en-us/for-mac Avast will catch most traditional viruses but performs poorly for PuPs (potentially wanted programs, such as "cleaners") and browser hijacks. ? ? ? *Zach Fried* *PeopleFirst Technology* Human-Focused Consulting By Appointment By Appointment: 409 Main Street, Suite 214 Amherst, MA 01002 zach at peoplefirst.tech (413) 461-0617 On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:55 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > On a MacBookAir from I think 2012 (inherited computer), I got two > different warnings to update my flash on two pages with no connection to > each other. > > I am not sure what version of Chrome I was running but when I went to > check, it started updating to Version 77.0.3865.90 (Official Build) > (64-bit)(this is AFTER I received the Adobe updater messages). > > I am suspicious of these identical update messages. I figured if it was > real, I could get it from the AppStore, and the update I have from November > 2016 appears to be the current one. > > My reasons for writing: > > 1. To warn others about very real-looking fake update messages, and > 2. To ask if my system is infected in some way, and if so, what's the > best way to deal with it > > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) > ________________________________________________ > Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > ** > * > (move your mouse to "event videos") > > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > > Twitter: @shelhorowitz > > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: > Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad > Levinson) > > _________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ira at fambizpv.com Sun Oct 27 16:15:00 2019 From: ira at fambizpv.com (Ira Bryck) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 16:15:00 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Questionable Update-Your-Flash browser warnings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FDCE431-427B-4C5B-AB22-9DE1FDE9E54D@fambizpv.com> Xfinity uses flash for their streaming, chrome says they?re discontinuing support for flash in December, and each time I want to watch on my mac I need to again accept flash for the one time From: Hidden-discuss on behalf of Hidden tech list Reply-To: PeopleFirst Tech Date: Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 11:55 AM To: Shel Horowitz Cc: Hidden tech list Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Questionable Update-Your-Flash browser warnings Hi Shel, Flash for Chrome is bundled within it, so you don't need to update it separately and that message is probably a scam. Additionally, if you have Flash installed for Safari and/or Firefox (and I advise against it), then it would need to receive updates from directly from Adobe. You can turn on the auto update option from the Flash preference pane and also check updates there, but to reiterate, I suggest uninstalling the standalone Flash and using Chrome for the rare site that still uses Flash in 2019. Download the uninstaller from Adobe: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-mac-os.html Avast antivirus for Mac: https://www.avast.com/en-us/for-mac Avast will catch most traditional viruses but performs poorly for PuPs (potentially wanted programs, such as "cleaners") and browser hijacks. ? ? ? Zach Fried PeopleFirst Technology Human-Focused Consulting By Appointment By Appointment: 409 Main Street, Suite 214 Amherst, MA 01002 zach at peoplefirst.tech (413) 461-0617 On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:55 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss > wrote: On a MacBookAir from I think 2012 (inherited computer), I got two different warnings to update my flash on two pages with no connection to each other. I am not sure what version of Chrome I was running but when I went to check, it started updating to Version 77.0.3865.90 (Official Build) (64-bit)(this is AFTER I received the Adobe updater messages). I am suspicious of these identical update messages. I figured if it was real, I could get it from the AppStore, and the update I have from November 2016 appears to be the current one. My reasons for writing: 1. To warn others about very real-looking fake update messages, and 2. To ask if my system is infected in some way, and if so, what's the best way to deal with it Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. 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Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 ** * (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:16 AM PeopleFirst Tech wrote: > Hi Shel, Flash for Chrome is bundled within it, so you don't need to > update it separately and that message is probably a scam. Additionally, if > you have Flash installed for Safari and/or Firefox (and I advise against > it), then it would need to receive updates from directly from Adobe. You > can turn on the auto update option from the Flash preference pane and also > check updates there, but to reiterate, I suggest uninstalling the > standalone Flash and using Chrome for the rare site that still uses Flash > in 2019. > > Download the uninstaller from Adobe: > https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-mac-os.html > > Avast antivirus for Mac: https://www.avast.com/en-us/for-mac > Avast will catch most traditional viruses but performs poorly for PuPs > (potentially wanted programs, such as "cleaners") and browser hijacks. > > ? ? ? > > *Zach Fried* > > *PeopleFirst Technology* > > Human-Focused Consulting > > By Appointment > > > By Appointment: > > 409 Main Street, Suite 214 > > Amherst, MA 01002 > > zach at peoplefirst.tech > > (413) 461-0617 > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:55 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> On a MacBookAir from I think 2012 (inherited computer), I got two >> different warnings to update my flash on two pages with no connection to >> each other. >> >> I am not sure what version of Chrome I was running but when I went to >> check, it started updating to Version 77.0.3865.90 (Official Build) >> (64-bit)(this is AFTER I received the Adobe updater messages). >> >> I am suspicious of these identical update messages. I figured if it was >> real, I could get it from the AppStore, and the update I have from November >> 2016 appears to be the current one. >> >> My reasons for writing: >> >> 1. To warn others about very real-looking fake update messages, and >> 2. To ask if my system is infected in some way, and if so, what's the >> best way to deal with it >> >> >> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) >> ________________________________________________ >> Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, >> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" >> *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 >> ** >> * >> (move your mouse to "event videos") >> >> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, >> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change >> >> Twitter: @shelhorowitz >> >> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified >> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame >> >> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com >> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 >> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: >> Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad >> Levinson) >> >> _________________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ira at fambizpv.com Mon Oct 28 16:02:37 2019 From: ira at fambizpv.com (Ira Bryck) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 16:02:37 +0000 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Questionable Update-Your-Flash browser warnings In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: To clarify, I am not being asked to update flash, just to allow the extension within chrome This is happening with Comcast?s site, not a scammy message ________________________________ From: Shel Horowitz Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 11:53 AM To: PeopleFirst Tech Cc: Hidden-Tech Tech; Ira Bryck Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Questionable Update-Your-Flash browser warnings Thanks, everyone. It seems I was right to be cautious. Ira, form the other two responses I got, you mght weant to be careful. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:16 AM PeopleFirst Tech wrote: Hi Shel, Flash for Chrome is bundled within it, so you don't need to update it separately and that message is probably a scam. Additionally, if you have Flash installed for Safari and/or Firefox (and I advise against it), then it would need to receive updates from directly from Adobe. You can turn on the auto update option from the Flash preference pane and also check updates there, but to reiterate, I suggest uninstalling the standalone Flash and using Chrome for the rare site that still uses Flash in 2019. Download the uninstaller from Adobe: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-mac-os.html Avast antivirus for Mac: https://www.avast.com/en-us/for-mac Avast will catch most traditional viruses but performs poorly for PuPs (potentially wanted programs, such as "cleaners") and browser hijacks. ? ? ? Zach Fried PeopleFirst Technology Human-Focused Consulting By Appointment By Appointment: 409 Main Street, Suite 214 Amherst, MA 01002 zach at peoplefirst.tech (413) 461-0617 On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:55 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss > wrote: On a MacBookAir from I think 2012 (inherited computer), I got two different warnings to update my flash on two pages with no connection to each other. I am not sure what version of Chrome I was running but when I went to check, it started updating to Version 77.0.3865.90 (Official Build) (64-bit)(this is AFTER I received the Adobe updater messages). I am suspicious of these identical update messages. I figured if it was real, I could get it from the AppStore, and the update I have from November 2016 appears to be the current one. My reasons for writing: 1. To warn others about very real-looking fake update messages, and 2. To ask if my system is infected in some way, and if so, what's the best way to deal with it Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From val at valnelson.com Mon Oct 28 16:48:32 2019 From: val at valnelson.com (Val Nelson) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 12:48:32 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] Have you considered starting a new coworking space? In-Reply-To: References: <78fd8d1c-b5ca-c816-6fb1-5108c66d6b48@otherrealm.org> <87f2a23e-3d16-f243-2566-6c54f1d326f4@otherrealm.org> Message-ID: I'm glad people are discussing coworking visions. Yes, Ira, we are thinking of the same space. It has cubicles in there now for some sound proofing if people chose to keep that. And each cubicle room is small-ish. Plus there is a 3-room suite that might be available, and a large meeting space and kitchen. All on one floor. For me the phone issue has always been the problem with joining coworking. >From what I understand, Click does offer some kind of exchange with other coworking spaces. Val On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:40 PM Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I definitely like these two ideas, and think they might be doable in a > way that increases usage for the spaces. There could be a > multi-location membership even with separately owned/managed spaces if > they tracked usage and split the fees. > > One of the things that wouldn't work well for me with most current > spaces, as you noted, is the lack of support for phone meetings. > Libraries and coffee shops aren't good either. > > --Alan > > > POSSIBLE DESIGN SOLUTIONS > > > > More flexible pricing > > > > Membership that allows for multiple locations (ie: like using multiple > > planets fitness) > > > > Ira Bryck > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alohasan9 at gmail.com Tue Oct 29 18:23:16 2019 From: alohasan9 at gmail.com (The San) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 14:23:16 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] DVD Conversion Message-ID: I hope I?ve reached the right people here; I send a copy of the following from a friend and brother who greatly needs a solution; ANY solid reply will be appreciated. Thanks! ?Request for Assistance: I need help from a local to me (Northampton), to convert this DVD into a format compliant for upload to my YouTube channel. Unfortunately my ultra modern HP Spectre doesn't have an optical drive, which I've not needed in nearly 8 yrs. Our PS4 won't recognize the disc, because the writer used an ancient codec. My ancient Dell Inspiron 6000 does recognize the disc, but it runs WinXP Pro (!) and I can't find a proper ancient software to decode/encode into a YT compliant MOV file. I'm stuck among various degrees of technology without a solution. Other than ordering an external optical drive. Which I do not want to do for this once in a decade effort. I do have rights to the video so there is no impropriety issue there. It is the 2011 UMASS freshman orientation 'Welcome to UMass at Amherst' community outreach video. I was approached by the administration and asked to volunteer toward this per my then many community 'town & gown' Projects that I developed and coordinated. If any of you can help please DM or text me direct. Thx!? -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the at otherrealm.org Tue Oct 29 19:58:54 2019 From: the at otherrealm.org (Aaron E-J) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 15:58:54 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] DVD Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98d977c2-571b-d7d4-3712-ad196c24ce6f@otherrealm.org> I should think that Umass or the Town of Amherst should certainly have a DVD burner or you could go to NOM (Northampton Open Media, formerly Northampton Community Television) in the Northampton High School. Aaron E-J The Other Realm LLC http://otherrealm.org http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) On 2019-10-29 2:23 PM, The San via Hidden-discuss wrote: > I hope I?ve reached the right people here; I send a copy of the > following from a friend and brother who greatly needs a solution; ANY > solid reply will be?appreciated. Thanks! > > ?Request for Assistance: > > I need help from a local to me (Northampton), to convert this DVD into > a format compliant for upload to my YouTube channel. > > Unfortunately my ultra modern HP Spectre doesn't have an optical > drive, which I've not needed in nearly 8 yrs. > > Our PS4 won't recognize the disc, because the writer used an ancient > codec. > > My ancient Dell Inspiron 6000 does recognize the disc, but it runs > WinXP Pro (!) and I can't find a proper ancient software to > decode/encode into a YT compliant MOV file. > > I'm stuck among various degrees of technology without a solution. > Other than ordering an external optical drive. Which I do not want to > do for this once in a decade effort. > > I do have rights to the video so there is no impropriety issue there. > > It is the 2011 UMASS freshman orientation 'Welcome to UMass at > Amherst' community outreach video. I was approached by the > administration and asked to volunteer toward this per my then many > community 'town & gown' Projects that I developed and coordinated. > > If any of you can help please DM or text me direct. > > Thx!? > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Good Luck On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 5:37 PM Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I should think that Umass or the Town of Amherst should certainly have a > DVD burner or you could go to NOM (Northampton Open Media, formerly > Northampton Community Television) in the Northampton High School. > > Aaron E-J > The Other Realm LLChttp://otherrealm.orghttp://theotherrealm.org (Blog) > > On 2019-10-29 2:23 PM, The San via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > I hope I?ve reached the right people here; I send a copy of the following > from a friend and brother who greatly needs a solution; ANY solid reply > will be appreciated. Thanks! > > ?Request for Assistance: > > I need help from a local to me (Northampton), to convert this DVD into a > format compliant for upload to my YouTube channel. > > Unfortunately my ultra modern HP Spectre doesn't have an optical drive, > which I've not needed in nearly 8 yrs. > > Our PS4 won't recognize the disc, because the writer used an ancient codec. > > My ancient Dell Inspiron 6000 does recognize the disc, but it runs WinXP > Pro (!) and I can't find a proper ancient software to decode/encode into a > YT compliant MOV file. > > I'm stuck among various degrees of technology without a solution. Other > than ordering an external optical drive. Which I do not want to do for this > once in a decade effort. > > I do have rights to the video so there is no impropriety issue there. > > It is the 2011 UMASS freshman orientation 'Welcome to UMass at Amherst' > community outreach video. I was approached by the administration and asked > to volunteer toward this per my then many community 'town & gown' Projects > that I developed and coordinated. > > If any of you can help please DM or text me direct. > > Thx!? > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shel at principledprofit.com Tue Oct 29 23:11:19 2019 From: shel at principledprofit.com (Shel Horowitz) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 19:11:19 -0400 Subject: [Hidden-tech] DVD Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might check in with Tom Adams of Reelife, Rikk Desgres of Pinehurst Pictures and Sound, or Steve Unkles of Audio-Visual Archives. Tom is on this list and I think Steve and Rikk might be as well. Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) ________________________________________________ Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 ** * (move your mouse to "event videos") Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change Twitter: @shelhorowitz * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame http://goingbeyondsustainability.com mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) _________________________________________________ On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 2:23 PM The San via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > I hope I?ve reached the right people here; I send a copy of the following > from a friend and brother who greatly needs a solution; ANY solid reply > will be appreciated. Thanks! > > ?Request for Assistance: > > I need help from a local to me (Northampton), to convert this DVD into a > format compliant for upload to my YouTube channel. > > Unfortunately my ultra modern HP Spectre doesn't have an optical drive, > which I've not needed in nearly 8 yrs. > > Our PS4 won't recognize the disc, because the writer used an ancient codec. > > My ancient Dell Inspiron 6000 does recognize the disc, but it runs WinXP > Pro (!) and I can't find a proper ancient software to decode/encode into a > YT compliant MOV file. > > I'm stuck among various degrees of technology without a solution. Other > than ordering an external optical drive. Which I do not want to do for this > once in a decade effort. > > I do have rights to the video so there is no impropriety issue there. > > It is the 2011 UMASS freshman orientation 'Welcome to UMass at Amherst' > community outreach video. I was approached by the administration and asked > to volunteer toward this per my then many community 'town & gown' Projects > that I developed and coordinated. > > If any of you can help please DM or text me direct. > > Thx!? > -- > Sent from Gmail Mobile > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Annamarie On 31 Oct 2019, at 15:31, Greg Caulton via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Are there any Powerpoint power users on the list with whom I could do > some one-on-one training? > > Greg :-)= > ______________________ > Greg Caulton > Creative Director, Patent Draftsman > www.gregcaulton.com > 233 West Pelham Road > Shutesbury, MA 01072 > > Phone: 413-461-7096 > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: