At Tue, 7 May 2019 07:27:41 -0400 Chris Hoogendyk <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu> wrote: > > Both of those options are much more expensive. That's alright if I'm just thinking of my own backups > and archives, and I do both of those among other options as well. However, if I'm talking about > producing 50 to 100 or so and distributing them to libraries and to extended family members > (descendants of D.C.Graham â https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Crockett_Graham), then it shoots > way way out of my price range. *Plain* thumb drives, even with imprinting, in the 50-100 quantiy range are about as cheap as DVDs. > > > On 5/6/19 7:29 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > At Mon, 6 May 2019 16:28:01 -0400 Tom Adams ~ Reelife Productions & Folktography <tomadams at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Chris, > >> > >> "relatively universally accessible"- is the big question... I would suggest > >> thinking of portable hard drive like you would a dvd ... and put the video > >> files on the hard drive... you could label them and store it on a shelf. > >> and then access and connect to whatever playback device that would allow > >> for viewing, laptop/projector/tv/laptop screen... > > "Rotating rust" drives (traditional magnetic drives) don't always store well > > (the spindle lube hardens). OTOH, SSDs store well. As do SD cards and USB > > thumb drives. No moving parts. Highly shock resistant. > > > >> > >> > >> > >> *Regards,* > >> > >> *Tom Adams, Director/Owner* > >> *Reelife Documentary Productions <http://www.ReelifeProductions.com> ââ¬Â¢ > >> **Folktography > >> by Tom* <http://folktography.zenfolio.com> > >> *ââ¬Â¢ Cool Media Production...Not Boring or Dumb * > >> ââ¬Â¢ Media that Educates, Entertains & Enlightens... since 1996 > >> *(413) 575-9707* > >> * ââ¬Â¢ Williamsburg, MA* > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 4:18 PM Chris Hoogendyk <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I'm open to suggestions. > >>> > >>> I want something that I can put an informative label on the media and have > >>> it in a book like case > >>> that I can design a cover for. It should both be able to sit on a book > >>> shelf in a library and be > >>> uploaded to their digital archives. It should also be relatively > >>> "universally" accessible. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 5/6/19 3:38 PM, Tom Adams ~ Reelife Productions & Folktography wrote: > >>>> Chris, I are you committed to using DVDs? If not, I would highly > >>> recommend NOT using them. They > >>>> are a faulty medium and not good for archiving either. Be glad to > >>> discuss further... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Regards,* > >>>> * > >>>> * > >>>> *Tom Adams, Director/Owner* > >>>> *Reelife Documentary Productions <http://www.ReelifeProductions.com> ââ¬Â¢ > >>> **Folktography by Tom* > >>>> <http://folktography.zenfolio.com> > >>>> /ââ¬Â¢ Cool Media Production...Not Boring or Dumb / > >>>> ââ¬Â¢ Media that Educates, Entertains & Enlightens... since 1996 > >>>> /(413) 575-9707// > >>>> ââ¬Â¢ Williamsburg, MA > >>>> / > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:24 PM Chris Hoogendyk via Hidden-discuss > >>>> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net <mailto: > >>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote: > >>>> Does anyone have knowledge or experience about DVD drives with > >>> respect to writing lots of DVDs > >>>> without burning out? > >>>> > >>>> I've been producing DVDs of historical primary source material (see, > >>> e.g., > >>> https://www.worldcat.org/title/moreygraham-historical-letters/oclc/904725729) > >>> on my > >>>> grandfather (see > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Crockett_Graham). In March, I > >>> was about to head out to > >>>> China for > >>>> a three week trip, and I was pulling an all nighter producing DVDs > >>> of my latest project with > >>>> 23 of > >>>> his diaries. At 6am on the morning that I was leaving, my DVD drive > >>> took the usual length of > >>>> time to > >>>> burn a DVD (seems like forever), then it started the verification > >>> scan, took a long time and > >>>> summarily spit out the DVD, saying it was unable to verify it. I > >>> went through 4 DVDs with the > >>>> same > >>>> result. This was from a stack of 100 good quality Sony DVDs that I > >>> had been pulling from for > >>>> quite a > >>>> while with no problems. > >>>> > >>>> At the point that the drive failed, I had been burning DVDs non-stop > >>> for well over 12 hours. All > >>>> told on this round going back a couple of days, I had burned > >>> something like 50-60 DVDs. > >>>> Previously, > >>>> I had used the drive to burn other DVDs. > >>>> > >>>> This is not the first time I have had this experience. Maybe the > >>> third. (i.e. bought a new > >>>> drive and > >>>> then had it burn out.) > >>>> > >>>> I'm using an iMac which I think is about 2014, running MacOS Mojave, > >>> with an Apple USB Superdrive. > >>>> Googling reviews of drives is pretty useless. They basically tell > >>> you they bought the drive, it > >>>> hooked up without any trouble, it worked great, and it is built > >>> solidly; or something like that. > >>>> They don't give long term wear and reliability. They don't say > >>> anything about non-stop burning > >>>> sessions; just normal easy use with a brand new device. I asked this > >>> question of a "genius" at > >>>> the > >>>> Apple Store this weekend, and he didn't really have an answer. He > >>> suggested that perhaps I should > >>>> buy a less expensive drive, because the internals would be the same. > >>> He said Sony made some > >>>> pretty > >>>> good drives, they just didn't have the aluminum case, etc. that the > >>> Apple drive has, but would be > >>>> half or less the cost. It would be great to have a Consumer Reports > >>> "mean time to failure under > >>>> continuous burning" and whether there are any drives with different, > >>> more durable, internals. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> --------------- > >>>> > >>>> Chris Hoogendyk > >>>> > >>>> - > >>>> O__ ---- Systems Administrator > >>>> c/ /'_ --- Biology & Geosciences Departments > >>>> (*) \(*) -- 315 Morrill Science Center > >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~ - University of Massachusetts, Amherst > >>>> > >>>> <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu <mailto:hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------- > >>>> > >>>> Erdös 4 > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > >>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net <mailto: > >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > >>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > >>> list. > >>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > >>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > >>>> > >>> -- > >>> --------------- > >>> > >>> Chris Hoogendyk > >>> > >>> - > >>> O__ ---- Systems Administrator > >>> c/ /'_ --- Biology & Geosciences Departments > >>> (*) \(*) -- 315 Morrill Science Center > >>> ~~~~~~~~~~ - University of Massachusetts, Amherst > >>> > >>> <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu> > >>> > >>> --------------- > >>> > >>> Erdös 4 > >>> > >>> > >> MIME-Version: 1.0 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > >> > >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > >> > >> > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services