[Hidden-tech] durable DVD writer

Robert Heller heller at deepsoft.com
Tue May 7 12:22:01 UTC 2019


At Tue, 7 May 2019 07:27:41 -0400 Chris Hoogendyk <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu> wrote:

> 
> Both of those options are much more expensive. That's alright if I'm just thinking of my own backups 
> and archives, and I do both of those among other options as well. However, if I'm talking about 
> producing 50 to 100 or so and distributing them to libraries and to extended family members 
> (descendants of D.C.Graham – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Crockett_Graham), then it shoots 
> way way out of my price range.

*Plain* thumb drives, even with imprinting, in the 50-100 quantiy range are 
about as cheap as DVDs.

> 
> 
> On 5/6/19 7:29 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> > At Mon, 6 May 2019 16:28:01 -0400 Tom Adams ~ Reelife Productions & Folktography <tomadams at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris,
> >>
> >> "relatively universally accessible"- is the big question... I would suggest
> >> thinking of portable hard drive like you would a dvd ... and put the video
> >> files on the hard drive... you could label them and store it on a shelf.
> >> and then access and connect to whatever playback device that would allow
> >> for viewing, laptop/projector/tv/laptop screen...
> > "Rotating rust" drives (traditional magnetic drives) don't always store well
> > (the spindle lube hardens).  OTOH, SSDs store well.  As do SD cards and USB
> > thumb drives.  No moving parts.  Highly shock resistant.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Regards,*
> >>
> >> *Tom Adams, Director/Owner*
> >> *Reelife Documentary Productions <http://www.ReelifeProductions.com> •
> >> **Folktography
> >> by Tom* <http://folktography.zenfolio.com>
> >> *• Cool Media Production...Not Boring or Dumb *
> >> • Media that Educates, Entertains & Enlightens... since 1996
> >> *(413) 575-9707*
> >> * • Williamsburg, MA*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 4:18 PM Chris Hoogendyk <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm open to suggestions.
> >>>
> >>> I want something that I can put an informative label on the media and have
> >>> it in a book like case
> >>> that I can design a cover for. It should both be able to sit on a book
> >>> shelf in a library and be
> >>> uploaded to their digital archives. It should also be relatively
> >>> "universally" accessible.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/6/19 3:38 PM, Tom Adams ~ Reelife Productions & Folktography wrote:
> >>>> Chris, I are you committed to using DVDs? If not, I would highly
> >>> recommend NOT using them. They
> >>>> are a faulty medium and not good for archiving either. Be glad to
> >>> discuss further...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *Regards,*
> >>>> *
> >>>> *
> >>>> *Tom Adams, Director/Owner*
> >>>> *Reelife Documentary Productions <http://www.ReelifeProductions.com> •
> >>> **Folktography by Tom*
> >>>> <http://folktography.zenfolio.com>
> >>>> /• Cool Media Production...Not Boring or Dumb /
> >>>> • Media that Educates, Entertains & Enlightens... since 1996
> >>>> /(413) 575-9707//
> >>>>   • Williamsburg, MA
> >>>> /
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:24 PM Chris Hoogendyk via Hidden-discuss
> >>>> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net <mailto:
> >>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote:
> >>>>      Does anyone have knowledge or experience about DVD drives with
> >>> respect to writing lots of DVDs
> >>>>      without burning out?
> >>>>
> >>>>      I've been producing DVDs of historical primary source material (see,
> >>> e.g.,
> >>> https://www.worldcat.org/title/moreygraham-historical-letters/oclc/904725729)
> >>> on my
> >>>>      grandfather (see
> >>>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Crockett_Graham). In March, I
> >>> was about to head out to
> >>>>      China for
> >>>>      a three week trip, and I was pulling an all nighter producing DVDs
> >>> of my latest project with
> >>>>      23 of
> >>>>      his diaries. At 6am on the morning that I was leaving, my DVD drive
> >>> took the usual length of
> >>>>      time to
> >>>>      burn a DVD (seems like forever), then it started the verification
> >>> scan, took a long time and
> >>>>      summarily spit out the DVD, saying it was unable to verify it. I
> >>> went through 4 DVDs with the
> >>>>      same
> >>>>      result. This was from a stack of 100 good quality Sony DVDs that I
> >>> had been pulling from for
> >>>>      quite a
> >>>>      while with no problems.
> >>>>
> >>>>      At the point that the drive failed, I had been burning DVDs non-stop
> >>> for well over 12 hours. All
> >>>>      told on this round going back a couple of days, I had burned
> >>> something like 50-60 DVDs.
> >>>>      Previously,
> >>>>      I had used the drive to burn other DVDs.
> >>>>
> >>>>      This is not the first time I have had this experience. Maybe the
> >>> third. (i.e. bought a new
> >>>>      drive and
> >>>>      then had it burn out.)
> >>>>
> >>>>      I'm using an iMac which I think is about 2014, running MacOS Mojave,
> >>> with an Apple USB Superdrive.
> >>>>      Googling reviews of drives is pretty useless. They basically tell
> >>> you they bought the drive, it
> >>>>      hooked up without any trouble, it worked great, and it is built
> >>> solidly; or something like that.
> >>>>      They don't give long term wear and reliability. They don't say
> >>> anything about non-stop burning
> >>>>      sessions; just normal easy use with a brand new device. I asked this
> >>> question of a "genius" at
> >>>>      the
> >>>>      Apple Store this weekend, and he didn't really have an answer. He
> >>> suggested that perhaps I should
> >>>>      buy a less expensive drive, because the internals would be the same.
> >>> He said Sony made some
> >>>>      pretty
> >>>>      good drives, they just didn't have the aluminum case, etc. that the
> >>> Apple drive has, but would be
> >>>>      half or less the cost. It would be great to have a Consumer Reports
> >>> "mean time to failure under
> >>>>      continuous burning" and whether there are any drives with different,
> >>> more durable, internals.
> >>>>
> >>>>      --
> >>>>      ---------------
> >>>>
> >>>>      Chris Hoogendyk
> >>>>
> >>>>      -
> >>>>          O__  ---- Systems Administrator
> >>>>         c/ /'_ --- Biology & Geosciences Departments
> >>>>        (*) \(*) -- 315 Morrill Science Center
> >>>>      ~~~~~~~~~~ - University of Massachusetts, Amherst
> >>>>
> >>>>      <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu <mailto:hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu>>
> >>>>
> >>>>      ---------------
> >>>>
> >>>>      Erdös 4
> >>>>
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> >>> --
> >>> ---------------
> >>>
> >>> Chris Hoogendyk
> >>>
> >>> -
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> >>>     c/ /'_ --- Biology & Geosciences Departments
> >>>    (*) \(*) -- 315 Morrill Science Center
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~ - University of Massachusetts, Amherst
> >>>
> >>> <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> Erdös 4
> >>>
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