[Hidden-tech] Can anyone explain what is going on here and what I should do about it?

Shel Horowitz shel at shelhorowitz.com
Sat Mar 23 11:33:13 UTC 2019


I just got another one with a visual (spam) ad attached. It shows the
origination address:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Fat Burning Keto <email at myip83.megadealio.download>
To: shel at mail9.mywordapps.site

And following Eli's suggestion, I was able to get the full header. Pasting
it below, and then I'll go back and find one of the earlier ones and paste
it into a different message. I notice that both NDNs were delivered to my
Gmail address (which I never give out, although sometimes real replies go
to it) but referencec shel at shelhorowitz.com in the headers.

Delivered-To: shelhoro at gmail.com

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** Message not delivered **

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The response from the remote server was:
554 delivery error: dd Requested mail action aborted -
mta4015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com

AND HERE IS THE SECOND HEADER






Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm)
________________________________________________
Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk,
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*http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809
<http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809>*

Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger,
poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change

Twitter: @shelhorowitz

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* Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame

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mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388
Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:
Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)

_________________________________________________


On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:09 PM Elijah Gwynn <eli at egwynn.com> wrote:

> Shel, the header from the automated bounce message might still indicate
> which mail system decided the bounce message should go to you and,
> potentially, by what means it made that decision.
>
> If you follow the steps here
> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/29436?hl=en> you should be able
> to get some more headers to paste to us.
>
> Eli
>
> On 20 Mar 2019, at 13:31, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> No human being sent this. Pretty sure it was a bot and I didn't recognize
> any of the addresses mentioned.I got four or five of those messages.
>
>
> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm)
> ________________________________________________
> Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk,
> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"
> *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809
> <http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809>*
>
> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger,
> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change
>
> Twitter: @shelhorowitz
>
> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified
> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame
>
> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com
> http://transformpreneur.com
> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388
> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:
> Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad
> Levinson)
>
> _________________________________________________
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 1:15 PM Michael Muller <tech at montaguewebworks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Shel,
>>
>> So... someone forwarded you the bounced email? Do you know this person?
>>
>> If the answer to both questions is yes, then one theory is the original
>> email was sent ...
>>
>>    - *From:* "Shel Horowitz" <friend at myip92.asyncjs.date>
>>    <friend at myip92.asyncjs.date>
>>
>> ... and the person who owns the friend at myip92.asyncjs.date email address
>> received a bunch of bounces, and saw your name associated with the original
>> email and forwarded it to you wondering why they were getting a bunch of
>> bounces.
>>
>> Sometimes this stuff is so difficult to trace.
>>
>> Mik
>>
>> ---
>> Mik Muller, president
>> Montague WebWorks
>> 50 Miles Street, Greenfield, MA
>> 413-320-5336http://MontagueWebWorks.com
>> Powered by ROCKETFUSION
>>
>> On 3/20/2019 12:54 PM, Shel Horowitz wrote:
>>
>> Rob, I have Gmail. Mik, this is all I can get resembling a header, sincde
>> it came as a forward.:
>>
>> The response was:
>>
>> The email account that you tried to reach is disabled. Learn more at
>> https://support.google.com/mail/?p=DisabledUser v2sor1434906wrw.17 -
>> gsmtp
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: friend at myip92.asyncjs.date
>> To: discuss at alias18.per2domain.live
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 12:04:13 +0000
>> Subject:
>> Sed et ut
>>
>> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm)
>> ________________________________________________
>> Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk,
>> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"
>> *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809
>> <http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809>*
>>
>> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger,
>> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change
>>
>> Twitter: @shelhorowitz
>>
>> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified
>> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame
>>
>> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com
>> http://transformpreneur.com
>> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388
>> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest:
>> Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad
>> Levinson)
>>
>> _________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:51 AM Rob Laporte <rob at 2disc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Shell and All,
>>>
>>> My firm has been getting a dribbling of these same types of emails for a
>>> few weeks now, and we use Microsoft hosted email, so wonder if they are
>>> being hacked. Shell, what is your email service? We're investigating this
>>> problem today or tomorrow, and I'll share what we find.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob Laporte| SEO Specialist, CEO
>>>
>>> DISC, Inc. - Making Websites Make Money
>>>
>>> 413-584-6500
>>>
>>> rob at 2disc.com
>>>
>>> www.2disc.com
>>>
>>> *NOTE:* Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If
>>> you don’t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net>
>>> on behalf of Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss <
>>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:23 AM
>>> *To:* Hidden-Tech Tech
>>> *Subject:* [Hidden-tech] Can anyone explain what is going on here and
>>> what I should do about it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Below is a forwarded non-delivery message to an address I've never heard
>>> of and seemingly in response to something sent by someone I've never heard
>>> of. I don't see that they are spoofing my email address. Can anyone explain
>>> why I am getting these and if I need to do anything? I got a bunch of them
>>> today.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: *Mail Delivery Subsystem* <mailer-daemon at googlemail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, Mar 19, 2019, 8:16 AM
>>> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
>>> To: <shel at shelhorowitz.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Error Icon]
>>> Address not found
>>> Your message wasn't delivered to *many at birdseyedeal.com* because the
>>> address couldn't be found, or is unable to receive mail.
>>> LEARN MORE <https://support.google.com/mail/?p=DisabledUser>
>>> The response was:
>>>
>>> The email account that you tried to reach is disabled. Learn more at
>>> https://support.google.com/mail/?p=DisabledUser f2sor8972495wro.20 -
>>> gsmtp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: friend at myip19.masterload.loan
>>> To: many at alias16.per2domain.live
>>> Cc:
>>> Bcc:
>>> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 09:37:04 +0000
>>> Subject:
>>> Et ut
>>>
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