[Hidden-tech] Question about business promotions]

Fri Jan 5 15:54:44 EST 2007

Hi Jim:
Got a wireless unit to quote on.
I will be at the CES Show next week.
I will be available for a meeting on the 17th. in the afternoon.

By the way,  I had dinner at that new YUPPIE Place, It was a paint store when I lived in Florence just before Christmas..

Ron Lawrence
Laision Representative
Sumitronics  www.sumitronics.com.sg

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From: "ussailis at shaysnet.com" <ussailis at shaysnet.com> 

> ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. 
> ** You too can help the group 
> ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. 
> ** If you did, we all thank you. 
> 
> 
> The IEEE Consultants' Networks does this very well: 
> 
> I pay $75/yr for the Boston network (about 80 members). For that I get a 
> searchable listing on their web site, and a listing in a directory, when it 
> is published. 
> 
> Problems with it: 
> 
> Folks who understand web design wrote the site. That took lots of time, as 
> they also have a business to run, bread to put on the table, etc. 
> 
> Someone else does the directory. Again same problem. That person isn't 
> paid, and paid work comes first. He, too has a family to feed. 
> 
> But, the business that I get makes it a bargin. I try to do my share of the 
> work, and attempt to be a speaker once a year at the monthly meeting in 
> Lexington. 
> 
> The national Alliance of IEEE Consultants' Networks (AICN), several hundred 
> members, charges $79/yr. For this I get a searchable web site. In the past 
> there was a booklet, then a CD, but I haven't seen the CD in a few years. 
> 
> Business thru this avenue was very good when there was a booklet. Dropped 
> with the CD only and the 2003 recession. Now there is less business...and 
> no CD. Possibly there is something there... 
> 
> The CT IEEE Consultants charges $25/yr. It is a small group with perhaps 20 
> to 25 members. They have a hand-out sheet, a list on a web site, and a 
> phone number to call. The web site had a info sheet to fill out, which was 
> a great spam attractor. That is just changed. 
> 
> Not much business thru the CT group, but there is some. 
> 
> All in all, the IEEE Consultants Networks have changed my business from 
> starvation to fairly good. I average a living wage because of it, and the 
> contacts that have been generated...and the follow-on. 
> 
> I have given a presentation 8 times on how to be a consultant. Every time I 
> say that the IEEE CN is the cheapest, most effective advertising, that I 
> have found. 
> 
> Jim U. 
> 
> jim at nationalwireless.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Original Message: 
> ----------------- 
> From: webmaster webmaster at hidden-tech.net 
> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:34:32 -0500 
> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Question about business promotions] 
> 
> 
> ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. 
> ** You too can help the group 
> ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. 
> ** If you did, we all thank you. 
> 
> 
> Kathy and a number of others have responded to Amy's questions, 
> with a good discussion of what HT can/will/should do for 'members', 
> and exactly what 'members' means. 
> 
> This discussion will be continued in person in our Annual HT 
> self-introspective session in Feb. 
> 
> Also, since Kathy (and a few others) mentioned that others can't really 
> comment on Amy's request to remove the honorarium page unless they 
> can see it, so we have left it up for a few weeks. 
> 
> Also, a clarification - that text on the page is exactly what Amy 
> has in her company listing. 
> 
> In response, to Michael's comments - actually many people do 'register' 
> to get a complete listing, because all registering does is allow you 
> into the site for a full listing which prevents whole scale downloading 
> of member information list. The list for which we have many requests, for 
> the purpose of blant promotion. 
> 
> As for the need for a directory - very much so - first we need to settle 
> what is for free and what is (paid) member only, which needs all your input. 
> 
> As for the overall site comments, keep them coming, a number of people 
> have stepped up to do more work on the site and we need feedback from 
> the whole HT community as to where to focus. 
> 
> And yes we are all very thankful for Amy's contributions and wish to 
> properly 
> thank her -- any other suggestions as to how ? 
> 
> Rich the WM 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Question about business promotions 
> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:22:49 -0500 
> From: Kathy Reinig 
> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
> 
> Hi Amy (and Hidden-Tech members), 
> 
> I'm not certain whether the page I found this morning is the one you 
> meant or not: under NEWS - under "Hidden Tech Founder Resigns for new 
> adventures in life". 
> 
> There I saw three links related to your resignation and what looked 
> like your standard short blurb used on programs for events meant to 
> promote member organizations. And I can see why you are concerned 
> it's not really the appropriate information for such a page. Better 
> would be something more specific to the skills you brought to the 
> formation of Hidden Tech and how they've helped shaped the organization. 
> 
> This mirrors more closely the policy used (or that I think is used - 
> I could be ill-informed) for this list. Mentioning your service 
> offerings while answering a related question is acceptable by posting 
> an unrequested advertisement is not. 
> 
> While I commend you for your concern over the issue of personal 
> promotion over that of other Hidden Tech companies, I would 
> respectfully suggest that the maintainers of the site delay pulling 
> the page as you requested for a week so that members interested in 
> discussing the issue can see what's being discussed. 
> 
> Kathy 
> 
> 
> Kathy Reinig 
> KJ Reinig Associates 
> quantitative research analysts 
> 
> Kathy.Reinig at KJReinig.com 
> +1 978 544 2194 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 2, 2007, at 4:50 PM, A - Z International wrote: 
> 
> > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. 
> > ** You too can help the group 
> > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. 
> > ** If you did, we all thank you. 
> > 
> > 
> >Hi all, 
> > 
> >Boy, was I surprised to find out I now have my own news listing and 
> >private page on the Hidden-Tech web site! 
> > 
> >Sure, I'm the founder and getting some praise is nice. But the 
> >truth be told, I built Hidden-Tech with the help of hundreds of 
> >you, starting with your president Jon Reed and every member of the 
> >steering committee who followed. You can read the history in the 
> >reports on the site, or in the ABOUT section (by the by . . .) 
> > 
> >But I do wonder at the wisdom of someone putting up a page for my 
> >business and listing my contact information. Unless EVERY board 
> >member and voting member gets that advantage, then I think this is 
> >unfair promotion. And, if I've been concerned about several major 
> >things, it's been that Hidden-Tech promote everyone not one person. 
> > 
> >So, why don't you all weigh in and tell me if this promotion is 
> >warranted. 
> > 
> >Do you want to see yourselves promoted this way too? 
> > 
> >Would you pay for your own promotional page? 
> > 
> >You can post thoughts to the list. In the meantime, I'm asking the 
> >steering committee to remove this special page in my honor until a 
> >policy is determined. 
> > 
> >best, 
> > 
> >Amy Zuckerman 
> >Hidden-Tech Founder 
> > 
> > 
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