[Hidden-tech] Music downloads vs cassette
Robert Heller
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Sat Dec 30 17:09:59 EST 2006
At Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:41:44 -0500 Mitch Anthony <mitch at element22.com> wrote:
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> Great point about the difference between downloads and cassette copying.
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> I am a serious collector of music. (3000 vinyl albums, as many cds
> and 500 gigs of mp3s. Back in the day I was a serious maker of mix
> tapes. Today I'm a serious maker of compilations.
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> But here's the difference: back when we copied from vinyl (great
> fidelity) to tape (lousy fidelity and a lot of background noise) we
> were stepping down in fidelity. The result? Study after study
> showed that tapers and tape sharers bought more records and CDs than
> anyone else. During that time sales of records (then CDs) grew year
> after year. Because if I heard a song on tape I liked I wanted it
> for my collection. But I wanted it in the best quality format
> available, and that wasn't tape. So I'd here it on tape then go buy
> the record.
In the case of vinyl to tape there is the fact that vinyl does not work
on a moving platform, so copying from vinyl to tape allowed for
listening in the car or while jogging.
Also, everytime you play a vinyl record there is some (small) loss --
draging the neddle down that groove scrapes some material off.
Transfering to tape helps preserve the vinyl.
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> But with mp3s there is NO loss of quality as you "share" (save the
> loss suffered when converted to mp3 the first time, but most stereo
> systems aren't good enough to detect the difference). The result is
> obvious. If you share an mp3 with me and I want it, I've got it. I
> have no incentive to buy it. Hence the decline of Cd sales year after
> year.
What *I* do is convert from CDs to MP3s and save the MP3s on my laptop
(it has a sound card but no CD-ROM drive, my desk top has a CD-ROM, but
no sound card -- both machines have EtherNet). I can have a large
collection of MP3s on my laptop and have it play them all in random
order and not have to deal with changing CDs every 10-12 cuts. But I
still buy the CDs. And if the hard drive in my laptop fails, I can
re-create the MP3s from my CD collection. In this case, the audio CDs
are the backup media.
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> No easy answers here, but I agree with Mr. Mallet.mac. The artist
> must be considered when trading digital files.
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> P.S. The record industry is another story. They are getting their
> own after decades of unfair and exploitive business practices.
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Right. Most of the retail price of CDs never gets anywhere near the
artist's pockets -- it is going to corporate suits many of whom have
the musical ability of a stone.
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> On Dec 30, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Kelley Slater wrote:
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> > gee I am beginning to feel a bit guilty here for recommending
> > limewire. Way back when, before file sharing upset the powers that
> > be,(and cold hard cash was such a motivator) kids would make
> > cassettes, does any one remember ever seeing a dual cassette player
> > in the 70's or 80's?? Now that I see all the forwards from hidden
> > tech users stating that file sharing sends a 'bad message' I am
> > wondering, as I sat as a youth recording songs from the radio, were
> > my parents considered sending a bad message?And what about the
> > stereo companies, pushing the cassette industry, or for that matter
> > blank VCRs to 'never miss a program again'? Nobody seems to
> > remember those things lately.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Anthony"
> > <mitch at element22.com>
> > To: "Hidden Tech" <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Music downloads
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> >> I agree that it sends a bad message to a kid that "music is
> >> free". In our house my daughter set up an ITunes account using
> >> my credit card which we reconcile against her allowance. It's
> >> been fascinating watching the growth of her very judiciously
> >> selected collection.
> >>
> >> Another great option is emusic.com. This subscription service
> >> charges $10 a month for up to 40 song downloads. Not only is it
> >> much cheaper than ITunes, it also has many more independent and
> >> international artists. And you can sleep at night knowing that
> >> appropriate royalties have been paid to the artists...
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> >> On Dec 29, 2006, at 8:17 PM, mallets at mac.com wrote:
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> >>> ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee.
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> >>> Just Pay the 99 cents and let the people who wrote the music
> >>> collect their meager royalty
> >>> stealing intellectual property is not moral
> >>> On Dec 29, 2006, at 3:35 PM, DAVID F. FARKAS wrote:
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> >>>> ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee.
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> >>>> My daughter wants to download MP3 songs free (of course) for
> >>>> her iPod and is Googling like crazy. We found file sharing
> >>>> which feels like the old Napster debacle and some download
> >>>> sites from old names like Kaaza.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm hoping someone on the list knows which of the many options
> >>>> are safe and easy.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanx.
> >>>> Merry Everything and Happy Always
> >>>> David
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