[Hidden-tech] List changes (from Jan Werner)

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Tue Mar 27 18:13:30 EDT 2018


Jan,

I completely get your frustration. However, as the months go by, more 
and more emailservers out in the world will begin using SPF to block spam.

At the moment you're safe from this problem because your DNS doesn't 
have an SPF record, so no one would block your emails, even if it came 
from a spam center in China. In other words, your DNS does not define 
which email servers are authorized to send email on your behalf. That's 
why your emails through this list have not wound up in anyone's junk folder.

I guarantee that someday, if you continue to use the jwdp.com domain 
name, you will have an SPF record set up for you, as well as DKIM.It's a 
bona fide thing, and it's what's making email better.

On another note, I don't look at the sender on this list to decide 
whether or not to read a post. I look at the subject.

Thanks,

Mik


Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
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On 3/27/2018 6:58 AM, hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net wrote:
> This first reply provides a perfect example of why this is NOT going to work: There is
> nothing to identify who sent it.
>
> If the sender is not named in the header, I'm probably not going to spend the time to read
> through every message just to find out who sent it, which means I'm probably not going to
> interact much with the list from now on.
>
> I suspect the same is true for many others here.
>
> Jan Werner
> jwerner at jwdp.com
> ___________________
>
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net wrote:
>> My guess is this will fill up a list with a lot of chatter directed at one person. I know
>> that I send a lot more private responses then public ones, because many of them would
>> simply not be of interest to most of the people on your list. It will be interesting to
>> see how this works out.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:50 PM <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>> <mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote:
>>
>>      Boxbe <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup!
>>      (hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net <mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>)
>>      Add cleanup rule
>>      <https://www.boxbe.com/popup?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boxbe.com%2Fcleanup%3Fkey%3Ds0d%252BVYOC%252BatFa%252FW8kqRUplFDo%252FclgC4APLRkMQX8g%252Bk%253D%26token%3D7AK3UItPZeaYbR4E9KQdvPCbDD6Ab%252Fh36ny4bGtYhozt6FJmWEt1Ao6VnutfDr59YuUs3YHL9sXCBLiUU8hXOftzdz7nGvBUhevrux1a%252FsXrhjJukv0p0FcZPLRvyOiezkiZV3hC8IDC%252B4hg%252F19Tt86rqlsP%252BNTc&tc_serial=37832772945&tc_rand=1741500007&utm_source=stf&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ANNO_CLEANUP_ADD&utm_content=001>
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>>
>>      This is just to warn HT list community that we are trying a setting change.
>>
>>      With major email providers (like Gmail, Yahoo, etc) enforcing SPF settings,
>>      the previous list setting left the From address of each email as that of the
>>      poster -- which, since the email is now coming from the HT list, is
>>      valid any more,
>>      per SPF setting.
>>
>>      Hence the list settings are being changed to remove From address and
>>      change Reply-to
>>      to the list email.
>>
>>      You might need to put your own address in your SIG, esp for off list
>>      replies.
>>
>>      SO let's see how this works.
>>
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