[Hidden-tech] domain purchase at expiration

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Sounds like your best defense may be a good offense.  The organization needs
its own presence if it would like to define what it is.

Charlie

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[mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Stacy
Kontrabecki
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 2:22 PM
To: Sam McClellan <sam at itabix.com>; Bruce Hooke <bghooke at att.net>;
Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net; webmaster at hidden-tech.net
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] domain purchase at expiration

The website is a strong opinion statement, presented factually, against the
organization and uses the organization's name as the domain xxxx.info. I
don't know that this constitutes fraud since they are not saying that they
are the organization. They are not saying that they are NOT the
organization, however. They use the org name and define the work of the org
inaccurately. There is no About section to say who runs the website. Short
is, I don't know if I could prove a case of fraud, per se, particularly as
the organization is not a legal entity, simply a project of a large
collaboration of organizations and individuals.

It's highly unlikely anyone will be able to afford a re-issued domain in the
slim chance the owner does not renew. I just wish the owner would say who
they are and that they are not, in fact, the organization they are
describing. I may address the person personally, but I have my reservations
about doing that.

Registrar is http://registrar.1and1.info Yes, I 've looked at complaints
mechanism and ICANN procedures. There is no actual trademark or copyright in
place to claim infringement (the organization/project is nascent and may, or
may not, become a stand-alone non-profit one day.) The misinformation
appearing on the website has a good likelihood of determining if the
org/project survives to become an entity in its own right.

Thanks.

Stacy


On 10/19/17 1:56 PM, Sam McClellan wrote:
> Hi Stacy,
>
> Rich and Bruce have pretty well covered it, I just have a few additions.
> There is an (often) 30-45 day period (depending on the registrar) 
> where you can renew the domain at the normal price then the domain 
> goes a into redemption period at which point it can still be restored 
> but for a lot more money ($70-120) for 15-30 days, then it gets 
> released for auction and then registration. So if 45 days pass the 
> likelihood that they will renew it goes way down due to the much 
> higher price. Once it's released, with some registrars it goes up for 
> auction and, if not purchased, then becomes available and the domain 
> can be snatched up pretty instantaneously by a bot for resale if it 
> looks like it might be popular, although that's much better since 
> ICANN tightened up the refund system.
>
> Sam
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