At Fri, 13 Oct 2017 14:38:17 -0400 Shel Horowitz <shel at principledprofit.com> wrote: > > > > Yikes! Y'all are getting me to appreciate Charter Spectrum cable. I pay > $60/month for low-end cable Internet AND land-line phone. Another ten bucks > would get me the basic TV package but I don't want it. Now, this is > grandfathered in on a special deal they did years ago, so YMMV. Right. Bad as cable is and as bad as the cable companies are, most of the *currently available* alternitives are actually worse. Unless you are somewhere not served by a cable company, in which case you make do with whatever is available. For example, *I* am one of the nobodies that still are still on dialup, since that is ALL that is available where I live. > > Outages are common, but most times I can fix them by powering down and > restarting computer, modem, and router. I'd say we get maybe 3 to 5 a year > that are deeper than that. > > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) > ________________________________________________ > Watch (and please share) my TEDx Talk, > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > *http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > <http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809>** > <http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809>* > (move your mouse to "event videos") > > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > > Twitter: @shelhorowitz > > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > > http://goingbeyondsustainability.com > http://transformpreneur.com > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com * 413-586-2388 > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. Latest: > Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > _________________________________________________ > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote: > > > At Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:08:43 -0400 Greg Caulton <greg at gregcaulton.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the detail, Sam :-) > > > > > > How would satellite be for watching live events, eg: sport? Is that the > > same > > > as watching movies? > > > > Gigabytes are gigabytes, whether they are live or canned. It will still > > use > > up your data cap. So yes, it is the same as watching movies. > > > > > > > > Greg > > > ______________________ > > > Greg Caulton > > > Creative Director, Patent Draftsman > > > www.gregcaulton.com > > > 233 West Pelham Road > > > Shutesbury, MA 01072 > > > > > > Phone: 413-461-7096 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2017, at 12:31 AM, Sam McClellan <sam at itabix.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Apparently Hughesnet is 25 Mbps download and 3Mbps upload. DSL is > > > > usually between 768Kbps and 1.5 Mbps so satellite should be much > > > > faster. Speed of DSL is highly dependent on your distance from the CO > > > > (Central Office, the switch where your phone line separates from the > > > > main line), if you're far enough away it will either be very slow or at > > > > around 18,000 feet away you won't be able to get it. Also, not all CO's > > > > support DSL. > > > > > > > > As mentioned, the two problems with satellite are latency and weather. > > > > Latency is very high so it's fine for watching movies (all one way) but > > > > there is noticeable lag time after you click when browsing websites > > > > (between .7 and 1.2 seconds compared to around .01 to .07 seconds for > > > > DSL, depending) and terrible for time-synchronous applications (video > > > > calls/conferencing or online gaming). > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > > list. > > > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > > list. > > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 > > Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services > > http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services > > heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services