[Hidden-tech] Cell phone towers and power outages

ussailis at shaysnet.com ussailis at shaysnet.com
Mon Aug 3 08:54:35 EDT 2015


I am aware of Verizon maintenance. Have a friend in Peru who had ISDN (or
whatever that two landline system is called). Lots of problems. 

So he complained lots. Verizon got tired of the maintenance & finally
installed DSL on his dirt road just to get him off their back.

My son lives in Ashfield. His issue was fence chargers. In the electronics
world, two parallel lines make what is known as a "coupler." The spikes the
chargers put on the line had him at 19 Kbps. His solution is a cell data
plan.

Copper lines. They affect DSL as well as phone. Here in Florence I got
tired of having a problem every Summer. Was told it was squirrels living in
the CO box. I complained a lot as I knew that was a way to get it fixed.

But how much can one complain to India? or the Philippines? 

But wait! Howcome squirrel urine causes DSL to fail and not the phone
lines? Wet phone lines are very noisy as the DC current tries decompose
water into hydrogen & oxygen in the presence of an electrolyte (urine).

How do I know?I nicked a buried line once with a shovel. The noise was
horrid. The line had to be replaced.

Of course its $$. This happens every time the business is sold. Remember,
at one time most of that infrastructure was paid for, then sold only to be
repaid for, by us of course. 

The FCC. They also care about $$ now. Around 15 years or so ago, they sold
their first bunch of frequencies. Note "Sold" Never had that been done
before. They sold a small amount of spectrum to the cell phone industry for
just shy of $20 Billion.

Yea for the treasury. But, wasn't this a 'tax' to the American taxpayer?
You betcha, as who paid for it. 

Since then there have been other frequency sales. There was a major default
within that first one, but all has recovered. Roughly these sales bring
about the same amount.

So who cares? To me it appears that this mindset has brought a major shift
to the FCC. Enforcement has  been replaced lawyers.


Jim Ussailis


Original email:
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From: Robert Heller heller at deepsoft.com
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 13:31:54 -0400
To: ussailis at shaysnet.com, kh at queenlake.com, bklee at azurelink.com,
hidden-discuss at mm01.tnrnet.com, townwebsites at gmail.com, heller at deepsoft.com
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cell phone towers and power outages


At Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:19:31 -0400 ussailis at shaysnet.com wrote:

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> While I only quickly skimmed the FCC doc, I offer:
> 
> 1. Reread paragraph 12.2(c)(7). Many cell sites are privately owned and
> leased to the major carriers. Do they come under these rules?
> 
> 2. When there is a good ice storm can the generator be refueled? Out here
> in the hinterlands "natural" gas service is usually not available
> everywhere. Propane or diesel only lasts so long.
> 
> 3. The FCC has proposed closing a bit more than 50% of its regional
> offices. That was reduced to a 50% closing, thanks to the ARRL. Since
there
> are now few regional office, how many engineers are left to tramp out to
> some sites to check on the truth of a report?
> 
> 4. The FCC has become a lawyer org. In the past it had many engineers. 

The FCC is mostly populated by former employees of the telecoms.  Can you
say 
'revolving door'.  I know you can...

> 
> If it sounds like I am down on the FCC, you are right! In the past one
> could count on the agency to fix problems, now you can count on then to
> write about it & pass unenforced rules.
> 
> What do I think about a copper based phone system. First, the phone lines
> are the lowest lines on the pole. They often last longer when trees &
> branches fall. In the past the phone company maintained a large battery
> bank at the CO. Now? I don't know, but the phone company sure lasts during
> power outages. Longer than my cell phone does!

OTOH, *Verizon* does as little maintance on the copper as they can get away
with (and it is probably cheaper to pay the fines to the utilities
commission
than to pay to fix the copper landlines. Up in the hill towns the copper
landlines are often in terrible shape and people do lose service, often just
because it is just raining -- the phones go out, not because of trees
falling
on the lines, but simply because of rain drops falling on the lines! *My*
phone line is so bad that I have to throttle my modem to 30KBits/sec,
because
if it connects at higher speeds, it is unreliable (too many errors and/or it
completely drops the connection).

*Verizon* wants the copper to 'go away'.

*Verizon* wants wants you to get a cell phone.  *Verizon* does not want you
to 
get a copper landline.

> 
> So, I do pay the high rate for a landline.
> 
> 
> Jim Ussailis
> 
> PS Antennae are for bugs, antennas are for radios. Sorry, that's an IEEE
> definition. 
> 
> 
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> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 10:38:03 -0400
> To: bklee at azurelink.com, hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net,
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