I'd like to get more info about what would be use to you, reply off list (posts will not go to the list) Ok lets review that subject: Are you a creative artist (redundant, probably) who is moderately successful (in your own terms, that others might agree with, and what we are trying to explore ) but want to take your results to the next level ? (what ever that means to you - and also what we are trying to explore) Again please reply off list (you might not get any response to questions, sorry but there are way too many creatives in the valley to discuss this until we have more info) -- Rich Roth Webmaster/Steering Committee Member Hidden-tech http://www.hidden-tech.net The Talent you need is right here, Join and share your skills ((Sponsored by Thrives Media)) http://www.thrivesmedia.com