[Hidden-tech] Open Streetmaps, and Hidden Tech

Michael Eger michael.eger at michaelegerconsulting.com
Sun Oct 12 09:40:35 EDT 2014


Jim's City Strides is impressive.  I will be blogging about him soon. 

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On Oct 10, 2014, 7:28 PM, at 7:28 PM, Jim Chevalier <jchevalier at gmail.com> wrote:
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>This might actually a fairly big issue, if I'm understanding you
>correctly...
>I've been working with Open Street Map data quite a bit while building
>CityStrides <http://citystrides.com>, and I've found that there are a
>lot
>of cities that aren't officially/usefully present yet.
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>For example, Springfield MA is present in a useful way in Open Street
>Map:
>http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=158858662
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>But on the other hand, Glastonbury CT is not present in any usable way:
>http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=533197
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>The key difference between the two is that Springfield's 'type'
>classification is "Type: boundary:administrative". This means that its
>boundary has been traced out, and has been categorized at the
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>correct admin level
><http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Development_overview#Country_to_street_level>
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>When a city is properly present in Open Street Map as an Administrative
>type with a Relation ID, *so much more* can be done with it. In my
>case,
>it's the difference between being able to programmatically collect a
>city's
>streets vs having to manually trace out the city borders in a site like
>http://extract.bbbike.org/. Effectively: having access to data (that's
>present!) or not having access to it.
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>Unfortunately, the answer to 'How can I create an OSM Relation Area if
>it
>doesn't exist?
><https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/30758/how-can-i-create-an-osm-relation-area-if-it-doesnt-exist>'
>is typically "don't". So, I don't know if/how this can be corrected.
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>-Jim
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>On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Town Websites <townwebsites at gmail.com>
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>> Ack, pfft.   I guess it is just an issue of ajax search not kicking
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>> without being prompted at least for Hidden Tech towns in MA.  Still
>maybe a
>> modest project enhancement but not needing a collaboration, sorry for
>the
>> bandwidth –
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>> Charlie
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>> *From:* Town Websites [mailto:townwebsites at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:35 PM
>> *To:* 'Hidden Tech'
>> *Subject:* Open Streetmaps, and Hidden Tech
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>> I notice that Open Streetmaps as conveyed through the popular free
>Droid
>> apps doesn’t know that most of the smaller towns in Hidden Techlandia
>> exist.  I suspect this is probably a global problem for small towns
>but one
>> would imagine there would be a solution, and some Hidden Techies
>might care
>> enough to help facilitate getting it incorporated into the popular
>open
>> source data and applications.  Anyone else care enough to fill in
>with what
>> they know and what they’d like to consider collaborating on?  Either
>on
>> list or private email fine.  I’m pretty well occupied but might find
>time
>> for an interesting collaboration.
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>> Charlie
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