[Hidden-tech] US Census Survey of Business Owners

[Christine Pilch Mancini]

I just completed the form. It's no big deal. They are looking for basic
statistical info like race, year you started your business, where your
startup capital came from, and how much your work. I found nothing
especially personal or intrusive.


Thanks,
- Christine



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Jan
Werner
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 6:53 PM
To: Ed Bride; 'hidden-discuss Tech'
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] US Census Survey of Business Owners

   ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
   ** If you did, we all thank you.


This is the main web site for the Census Bureau's Survey of Business
Owners: https://www.census.gov/econ/sbo/

You can go there to read all the boring details about what it is and how it
is conducted.  Note that the recent notices are actually for the second
phase of the 2012 SBO (the wheels of government statistical research revolve
slowly).

This is the address to log in and answer the SBO survey: 
https://bhs.econ.census.gov/bhs/sbo/index.html

These are most definitely legitimate and not any kind of scam.

Jan Werner
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Ed Bride wrote:
>     ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
area.
>     ** If you did, we all thank you.
>
>
> It's doubtful that anyone would use the U.S. mail for a phishing 
> scheme...much too expensive for the return. Based on other responses, 
> I'm confident this is legit.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christine Pilch Mancini [mailto:Christine at GrowMyCo.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 1:45 PM
> To: 'Ed Bride'; 'hidden-discuss Tech'
> Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] US Census Survey of Business Owners
>
> I also received this form via US mail. I haven't gone to the site yet, 
> but now I am worried that this may be a phishing scheme. Thanks for 
> the heads up. Now, what to do about it?
>
> All the best,
> - Christine Pilch Mancini
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net
> [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Ed 
> Bride
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:17 AM
> To: 'hidden-discuss Tech'
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] US Census Survey of Business Owners
>
>
> While this link does say that the law cited is legit, it does not 
> verify that the sender was legit; or, presuming that the "survey" 
> notification was sent via email, that the sender's link isn't a disguise
to a dangerous site.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net
> [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of 
> Rich Roth
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 9:45 AM
> To: Chris Hoogendyk; Charles D. Lappen; hidden-discuss Tech
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] US Census Survey of Business Owners
>
>
>
> Way tooo easy to check, it is very legit in fact it probably took me 
> as long to check as it did to reply:
>
> http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/13/7/II/224
>
> Or just google "census Title 13, USC, Sections 131 224" to see more 
> direct references.
>
> I let it go to the list to remind everyone to check before posting
>
> Rich
>
> On 6/6/2014 8:40 AM, Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
>>      ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the 
>> member's
> area.
>>      ** If you did, we all thank you.
>>
>>
>> My gut reaction is that it is bogus. The financial penalties just 
>> don't make sense except as an attempt at intimidation from a scammer.
>>
>> I would independently look up the U.S. Census Bureau and call them.
>>
>> Was the notice paper mail or email? If email, look at the full 
>> headers and see where it really came from.
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/14, 8:56 PM, Charles D. Lappen wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Today I received a notice from the Census Bureau that I've been 
>>> "selected to participate in the
>>> 2012 Survey of Business Owners and Self-Employed Persons (SBO).
>>>
>>> In big bold letters it says that it is MANDATORY to participate and 
>>> goes on to state that Title 13, USC, Sections 131 & 224 requires my
> response.
>>>
>>> According to Section 224, I can be fined up to $500 if I don't 
>>> participate and up to $10,000 if I falsify information.
>>>
>>> I'm not willing to provide the Census Bureau financial information 
>>> about myself. The IRS already has all of it.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else ever received one of these?
>>>
>>> Has anyone "failed" to participate and what happened, if anything?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>> Helping those who LOVE their work, but HATE their paperwork.
>>>
>>> Charles D. Lappen, M.Ed.
>>> The SOHOrganizer
>>> Small Office / Home Office
>>> Administrative Support Services
>>>
>>> Office: 413-624-5507 1 Gilbert Drive
>>> Cell: 617-797-7646 Colrain, MA 01340
>>> Fax: 413-726-6821
>>>
>>> PPlease consider the environment before printing this email
>>>
>
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