True - I was responding to the issue of the penalties being incorrect, your comments are very correct as to verifying the request itself was valid Having gotten similar US Census requests over the years (and actually having worked on Census analysis various times) I know that is how they function. Of course, given how phishers work today - the 'usual' care much be taken with any unsolicited request, in fact I just got one from a small business survey from Wash State related to a Rural USDA study. More important is understanding that (if this is a valid request) it provides information that is needed to really provide helpful services for small businesses like us Rich/webmaster On 6/6/2014 10:17 AM, Ed Bride wrote: > While this link does say that the law cited is legit, it does not verify > that the sender was legit; or, presuming that the "survey" notification was > sent via email, that the sender's link isn't a disguise to a dangerous site. > > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net > [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Rich Roth > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 9:45 AM > To: Chris Hoogendyk; Charles D. Lappen; hidden-discuss Tech > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] US Census Survey of Business Owners > > > > Way tooo easy to check, it is very legit in fact it probably took me as long > to check as it did to reply: > > http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/13/7/II/224 > > Or just google "census Title 13, USC, Sections 131 224" to see more direct > references. > > I let it go to the list to remind everyone to check before posting > > Rich > > On 6/6/2014 8:40 AM, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: >> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's > area. >> ** If you did, we all thank you. >> >> >> My gut reaction is that it is bogus. The financial penalties just >> don't make sense except as an attempt at intimidation from a scammer. >> >> I would independently look up the U.S. Census Bureau and call them. >> >> Was the notice paper mail or email? If email, look at the full headers >> and see where it really came from. >> >> >> On 6/5/14, 8:56 PM, Charles D. Lappen wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Today I received a notice from the Census Bureau that I've been >>> "selected to participate in the >>> 2012 Survey of Business Owners and Self-Employed Persons (SBO). >>> >>> In big bold letters it says that it is MANDATORY to participate and >>> goes on to state that Title 13, USC, Sections 131 & 224 requires my > response. >>> According to Section 224, I can be fined up to $500 if I don't >>> participate and up to $10,000 if I falsify information. >>> >>> I'm not willing to provide the Census Bureau financial information >>> about myself. The IRS already has all of it. >>> >>> Has anyone else ever received one of these? >>> >>> Has anyone "failed" to participate and what happened, if anything? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Charles >>> >>> Helping those who LOVE their work, but HATE their paperwork. >>> >>> Charles D. Lappen, M.Ed. >>> The SOHOrganizer >>> Small Office / Home Office >>> Administrative Support Services >>> >>> Office: 413-624-5507 1 Gilbert Drive >>> Cell: 617-797-7646 Colrain, MA 01340 >>> Fax: 413-726-6821 >>> >>> PPlease consider the environment before printing this email >>> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3955/7628 - Release Date: 06/05/14 > > -- Rich Roth Webmaster/Steering Committee Member Hidden-tech http://www.hidden-tech.net The Talent you need is right here, Join and share your skills ((Sponsored by Thrives Media)) http://www.thrivesmedia.com