It's in the latest clarification (Further Guidance<http://www.mass.gov/dor/businesses/help-and-resources/legal-library/tirs/tirs-by-years/2013-releases/working-draft-tir-computer-software.html>) listed at: http://www.mass.gov/dor/utility/recent-tax-changes.html Basically what is taxable is modifications to an original that is taxable - original not sold and taxed, neither are modifications R. On 8/23/2013 9:40 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > > > Thanks for the clarification. Have they updated the FAQ or is that > covered in another section? > > On 8/23/2013 8:10 PM, Lynn Nichols wrote: >> I do not agree that a website designer's services in building a >> Joomla or Drupal website would be taxable under the new law, at least >> according to the new clarification. They are both open source, as is >> WordPress. Excel and Access are NOT open source. >> >> -- >> Lynn Nichols >> Starstruck Design >> Gill, MA / 413.863.7752 >> lynn at starstruckdesign.com <mailto:lynn at starstruckdesign.com> >> http://www.starstruckdesign.com >> http://www.shopwesternmass.com >> >> On Aug 23, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Scott Reed <sreed at avacoda.com >> <mailto:sreed at avacoda.com>> wrote: >> >>> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's >>> area. >>> ** If you did, we all thank you. >>> >>> >>> The following is lifted from the DOR's FAQ: >>> >>> 2. What are modifications to prewritten software that are >>> taxable under the new law? >>> >>> A. Modifications to prewritten software that are subject to tax >>> under the new law are modifications to software which is >>> licensed, sold or otherwise made available to more than one >>> user, where such prewritten software is modified for the use of >>> a specific customer. The modification may be made either by the >>> original seller/licensor of the software or by a third party. >>> >>> For purposes of this tax on modification, integration, >>> enhancement, installation or configuration of standardized >>> (prewritten) software, prewritten software *does not include* >>> proprietary code owned by the provider (seller) of the >>> modifications if that proprietary code is not separately >>> licensed to customers. >>> >>> Custom application software (including custom software that >>> incorporates such proprietary code) that is designed to run on a >>> prewritten operating system is /treated as custom software and >>> not as a modification of the prewritten operating system software/. >>> >>> I interpret the second sentence to say that there is no tax on >>> original code as long as the modifications are not licensed to the >>> customer (i.e. as long as the customer is paying for the coder's >>> time and not for a license to use the coder's product). >>> >>> I interpret the third sentence to say that there is no tax on >>> original (unlicensed) code that uses prewritten, third party, >>> libraries and runs on prewritten OSs. >>> >>> This lets those that write code off the hook for the most part and >>> it helps clarify that the tax *does apply* to development within >>> standalone database frameworks like Excel, Access, Drupal, Joomla, >>> etc. where much of the development involves modification to an >>> underlying database. >>> >>> I wonder, however, if they tax bookkeeping services and, if not, how >>> is that different from working within these other database frameworks? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> <mailto:Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20130824/dc89c073/attachment-0001.html