[Hidden-tech] font for mac os

[Lynne Rudié]

I didn't think I had anything useful to add to this discussion but  
your classifying Helvetica 65 as obscure caught my attention. It is  
one of the original forms of Helvetica--the "65" weight was, I  
believe, originally part of the engineering of the font called  
Univers, which was the new thing when I was learning my trade as a  
free-lancer in New York in the 70's. (Anybody on this list remember  
when we worked on drawing tables and sent out for type in galleys?)  
One of the problems now with Helvetica is that there are usually  
versions of it in various configurations of system fonts and it's easy  
to get a conflict. I have tried to use HelveticaNeue, which has all  
the weights you would want, including some obliques, when I get a file  
that calls for one of the other helveticas. If you have Helvetica  
Neue, or another kind of Helvetica Bold, you should try running a test  
comparison for weight and size with the 65 in the file you are trying  
to match. It might work just as well and you wouldn't have to buy  
anything.
	But I do agree with Todd that pirated fonts, even if you don't count  
the ethical questions, are disasters waiting to happen and should be  
avoided. If it looks like Helvetica but is called something else,  
don't go there. So many people don't realize that fonts are software  
-- instead of getting cranky that the old ones stop working it's  
better to consider occasionally replacing your older fonts as part of  
the cost of keeping your system running smoothly. Buy the open type  
format whenever it's available.
	If you shop around you can find good prices from reputable font  
suppliers and it's well worth it. I recommend Identifont.com as a  
place to start. They don't sell fonts themselves but they will help  
you find fonts in their data base and then point you to a list of  
suppliers so you can do the cost comparison and decide where to buy  
it. They also have a help line where you can send them a type sample  
and they will tell you the name of the font you're trying to match.  
Also, recently they helped me find some obscure symbol fonts I was  
looking for.
	Lynne


Lynne Rudié
Graphic Design
413.863.9406
413.834.0889 (c)
lynnerudie at verizon.net

On Mar 2, 2012, at 9:57 AM, ckiras at comcast.net wrote:

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> Thank you for all the helpful responses.  Not sure why a designer  
> created a poster for 15 partners to use
> for NSF presentation with such an obscure font.
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> From: "Todd M. LeMieux - (413) 747-9321" <todd at toddlemieux.com>
> To: "Will Loving" <will at dedicationtechnologies.com>
> Cc: ckiras at comcast.net, "Hidden Tech" <Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
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> Agreed, and another important point: I would never trust a pirated  
> font on my system. Fonts are software, and if what you find is  
> corrupted or infected you're introducing a potential world of  
> trouble on your computer.
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> Best,
> Todd
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> On 3/1/12 1:20 PM, Will Loving wrote:
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> I believe Helvetica 65 Medium is owned by Linotype Corp and as such  
> any “free” version you find is going to be an illegal copy. I  
> suggest purchasing it through fonts.com. Assuming you are doing this  
> as a job for a client, it’s just part of the cost of doing the job.
>
> http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?productid=45462
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> on 3/1/12 11:07 AM, ckiras at comcast.net at ckiras at comcast.net wrote:
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> where can I find a free and safe download for an unusual font on mac  
> os - lion?
> Helvetica 65 Medium
>
> thank you,
> cheryl
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