CC took my business to be a cell phone manufacturer, or repackager. I would get typically 30+ emails / day about component and parts sales. But, for anyone who has been in manufacturing knows, an offer of 50 or so wall power cubes is less than worthless. If I did make cell phones, think of the cost to change packaging to accommodate such a small quantity, even if they were free, and worked. So I tried to stop the spam from CC. Not easy at all. Many phone calls, emails, forms sent, etc. Finally I had to "agreed to" never having them communicate with me again. YEA!!! Did the emails stop then? No. But after a few more spam, I emailed them every time after I received a spam. Finally they went away. Possibly I wore them out. Constant Contact is a spammer of the first order!! Jim Ussailis National Wireless, Inc. Original Message: ----------------- From: Chris Hoogendyk hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:43:41 -0400 To: jessica at inperfectorder.com, hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] free newsletter template ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. On 3/28/11 11:23 AM, Jessica Waters, In Perfect Order Organizing Solutions wrote: > > Greetings, all! I have a client that is currently using ConstantContact for his newsletter > mailings. We have had a lot of trouble with about 40% (!!!) of his contacts bouncing back for no > reason, as they are fully opted in. When he uses the same exact list and email from his aol > account, they all seem to go through and he gets a high response rate to the mailing. > > Long story short, we would like to divest from CC completely and just go with a free newsletter > template that he can send out as a .pdf from his aol account. Does anyone have any suggestions as > to where to find the best one page template? > Just as a side comment . . . In spite of the intent of CC and their sponsorship on NPR, etc., on many of the open source spam fighting lists that I belong to CC is regarded as offensive. The very idea of CC is found to be offensive as well as the action implied by the name. There is a representative of CC who frequents some of those lists and tries to argue their side, but they get drowned out or shouted down. The point is that CC is well known among spam fighters, and in spite of efforts on CC's part to do things right with regard to mail protocols and reputation, they are regarded as spammers and thus put on black lists and blocked in other ways. This gets rolled into default settings so that sysadmins who install spam fighting software often end up blocking CC mailings. Many do it intentionally. I'm presuming, of course, that CC does handle their mail protocols correctly. -- --------------- Chris Hoogendyk - O__ ---- Systems Administrator c/ /'_ --- Biology& Geology Departments (*) \(*) -- 140 Morrill Science Center ~~~~~~~~~~ - University of Massachusetts, Amherst <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu> --------------- Erdös 4 _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE