[Hidden-tech] organizing an online library

[Terran Birrell]

Hi Rich,

Your Solr search looks interesting. I don't see pricing for the hosted
version. What's the story with that?

Just to make sure I have this straight: the advantage over just organizing
using categories and tags is that once you're at the first level (say you've
searched and found posts in a category) you can drill down further into more
categories and tags. You're essentially saying show me everything with both
this category AND this tag, where the default behavior is just pick one
category and show me that. Is this correct?

Will it work with custom post types or would this require some sort of extra
configuration/code?

Terran

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Rich Roth <webmaster at hidden-tech.net>wrote:

>   ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
>   ** If you did, we all thank you.
>
>
> Interesting that Kelly would mention solr in this context, we too use solr
> for both simple
> systems like this and
> much bigger ones -- the key to using facets is that the solr engine does
> the grouping and
> when you drill down
> using specific facets or search terms, it will only show the facets that
> now apply.
>
> For systems of the size you are talking about we use either joomla or
> Wordpress and
> actually have an online service that runs the solr for you (since solr is a
> more complex
> java based system that can run millions of documents or only a few
> hundred),
> and includes plugins for both joomla and wordpress.
>
> You can find the system with it's various examples and plugins at:
>    http://www.solrhq.com
>
> You can see a relatively simple example esp showing the faceting at:
> http://www.profsharon.net
>        (Disclaimer - that is my wife's blog)
>
> It has about 150 posts and uses the most obvious faceting for WP -
> categories and tags
> Here is a simple example: http://www.profsharon.net/?s=museums
> On the left you can see the facets for Categories and Tags that match post
> that are
> applicable.
> This was done using the wordpress plugin and solrhq -- out of the box.
>
> For a custom system, you have very wide control over what are facets and
> how to display them,
> you can use the existing plugins or tailor them as you need since the
> interface layer is
> all in php.
> You can start using our SolrHQ service and switch to your own install of
> Solr if needed.
>
> Here is an example of a Joomla based biographical database of Shaker
> community members
> that we are developing
> with the Shaker community and various Shaker museums:
>            http://www.shakerstudies.info/studies/brethren-search
> It has a more custom 'google like' look.
>
> In fact, I expect to have the HT archives indexed in Solr within the next
> few months,
> giving us much better control then
> the google search being used now.
>
> Rich
>
> On 8/22/2011 9:29 PM, Kelly Albrecht wrote:
> >    ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
> area.
> >    ** If you did, we all thank you.
> >
> >
> > Sounds like a good case for Solr search. You would enter each resource
> > into a CMS as content. You could then tag each resource with as many of
> > the relevant items (subject, grade level, expertise (beginner,
> > intermediate), etc.) as you see fit. You then connect that CMS to Solr
> > and each of these tags, and many other aspects of the resource, become
> > "facets."
> >
> > Facets are an awesome way to find what you are looking for. You may have
> > used facets to find what you were looking for on sites like New Egg, or
> > Lowes, or B & H Photo. Solr makes this possible.
> >
> > Personally I would use Drupal for this and connect it to Solr. Each
> > resource type would be a Content Type. Things like subject, grade level,
> > expertise (beginner, intermediate), etc. would be fields on each
> > relevant Content Type. Solr would take it from there (plus maybe a
> > little site design to get the user started).
> >
> > You can try out Drupal and Solr on Drupal's website drupal.org. Search
> > for something and the facets show up on the right side. When using Solr,
> > it is not required to start with a search either.
> >
> > I do think this is a little much for Wordpress, but others on the list
> > may have some good examples of Wordpress being a good fit. There is a
> > Solr plugin for Wordpress too.
> >
> > CHEERS!
> > kelly
> >
> > On 08/22/2011 07:29 PM, Chris Landry wrote:
> >>     ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
> area.
> >>     ** If you did, we all thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> A client of mine wants to redesign a web site that contains a large
> number of educational resources: books, links, lesson plans, conference
> materials, book reviews, etc. I'm trying to help them think about how to do
> this.
> >>
> >> Not only are there lots of different kinds of materials, but there could
> be a number of possible ways to find the most relevant materials: subject,
> grade level, expertise (beginner, intermediate), etc.
> >>
> >> I'd love to see great examples of this kind of thing in WordPress,
> and/or suggestions about how to begin thinking of good organization of a
> diverse collection of online materials.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris Landry
> >> Landry Communications
> >> Tell Your Story. Change the World.
> >> www.christopherlandry.com
> >> c  413 522-2494
> >> o 413 665-1123
> >>
> >>
> >>
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