[Hidden-tech] Video Codecs for long-term storage

[Tom Adams ~ Reelife Productions & Folktography]

will,

I understand the idea of trying to do it all with a very limited budget but
i'd also highly suggest getting  a 1 or 2TB drive like Jan suggested. It
will save you hours and hours and hours of transferring and cataloging and
archiving , etc. and the time saved will easily out weight the initial cost.

I just bought a 1TB drive for $69 on dell's website ($99 with $30 immediate
discount here<http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/System_Drives/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A1471172&dgc=BF&cid=27740&lid=1172981&acd=10549103-552179-TI6bVQoBCjQAAG67cXkAAALN>)
for the exact purpose of archiving and backing up all of my master files.


DVD's are so 2010 :)

Regards,


-Tom Adams
Director/Owner
www.ReelifeProductions.com




On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Will Loving <
will at dedicationtechnologies.com> wrote:

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> Hi Jan,
>
> We're talking about a public school here with a limited tech budget. Right
> now a dozen or two DL DVDs (for this year), which I already have and can
> donate, is cheaper than several hundred $ for multiple HDs (or a RAID)
> which
> the school would need to purchase.
>
> Yes, in the long-term a NAS device like the Drobo FS that I just bought for
> my own use, will be the preferred option, but for now we're working with
> what we have.
>
> Will
>
> Will Loving, President
> Dedication Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> on 9/17/10 9:26 PM, Jan Werner at jwerner at jwdp.com wrote:
>
> > Why do you want to use DVR-DL for long term storage in the first place?
> >
> > 2TB hard disks currently sell for $100-$120 and hold as much data as
> > about 240 DVD-DL discs. Good quality DVD-DL discs (Verbatim) cost at
> > least $1 each, so even with zero coasters, they are at least twice as
> > expensive per GB as hard disks, and a lot more hassle to burn and keep
> > track of. 1TB hard drives are not quite as cheap per GB, but still much
> > less costly than DVD-DL.
> >
> > Far better to keep duplicate copies of each video on multiple hard disks
> > and, to be extra safe, include PAR2 files with each video file,
> >
> > Jan Werner
> > ___________
> >
> >
> > Will Loving wrote:
> >>     ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
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> >>     ** If you did, we all thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Here¹s a question for the video mavens out there. My son goes to PVPA
> >> (Pioneer Valley Performing Arts Charter Public School) and starting last
> >> year, we began video recording some of the performances. We would like,
> >> eventually, to establish a viewing archive in the library of past
> >> performances at the school and are trying to think about short term and
> >> long-term storage and video formats.
> >>
> >> There are two main issues, viewing and storage.
> >>
> >> Most of the video we are shooting at the moment is in AVCHD format,
> >> which for a performance under two hours will just fit on a dual-layer
> >> DVD. However, we usually want to edit that video to clean it up, add
> >> titles, credits, directors notes, etc. In the process it all get¹s
> >> transcoded to DV .mov format in iMovie which triples the size. Since
> >> Blu-ray is not an option and the DV format is just to large for
> >> reasonable storage at this time, we need to figure out two things: the
> >> best video format to save to for long-term backup storage that will fit
> >> on a DL DVD, so under 8GB, and the best format to save to for HD based
> >> storage on a viewing station in the library.
> >>
> >> For storage purposes on a DL DVD, there is no way that I¹m aware of to
> >> easily transcode the edited video back to AVCHD. iMovie can export via
> >> QuickTime to various formats and we could also use Handbrake to render
> >> the edited and exported DV file down to something under 8GB, but I still
> >> don¹t know what the best format for that would be. I¹m pretty sure
> >> Handbrake has a sizing option where you simply say, render to 7.8GB and
> >> it will do the amount of compression to get it there, but is that the
> >> best way?
> >>
> >> As for the viewing station, the same format that gets it to under 8GB
> >> might be fine in terms of current available HD space. Over time HD space
> >> will only get cheaper and more available but right now we can¹t be
> >> storing 30-40GB files. The related question I have is whether there are
> >> differences in format that would affect viewing from a NAS vs a local
> >> HD? Is there some format would be better over the network or should we
> >> perhaps have two versions ­ high-res for local and lower-res for network
> >> viewing?
> >>
> >> Comments?
> >>
> >> Will
> >>
> >> Will Loving, President
> >> Dedication Technologies, Inc.
> >>
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