I'm in the midst of a very interesting discussion with the ECE department at UMass, which thought it was rid of me a quarter-century ago (and, in fact, it pretty much was..) I'd like to connect with ECE alums who are on hidden-tech - off list - to talk about some things.. if things gel we'll circle back to the full hidden-tech group in the near future to pick up other disciplines and non-UMies.. I'm not trying to be exclusive, I'm just trying to start from some common ground. But anybody can feel free to hit me at tek at acm.org.. Not really a big secret; I'm just probing how UMass ECE interacts with the local tech community. I'm pretty sure most of the list members missed SDP (Senior Design Project) Day this spring (and I'd missed it in all years past), and it seems to me that there is a wall here that we need to figure out how to appropriately perforate .. ...tom