Millenials are generally harder worker, smarter, and funnier . . . in my experience. I assume I'll be working for a Millenial at some point . . . but my concern is that I'm a member of the slacker generation (AKA Gen X). I know how to paste an Excel table into Word. And I can do e-mail. That must count for something, no? Hey Fuzzy-Math, you hiring!? ;) __________________ Joseph Steig | more info at http://www.steig.com joseph at steig.com | Direct: 617-500-7376 On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:27 PM, nestor at fuzzy-math.com <nestor at fuzzy-math.com > wrote: > ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > > Wow, I don't know where to start on this one. I'd hate to say what I'm > really thinking for fear of sounding like I have a "millenial" attitude, but > perhaps you should re-examine your screening of candidates, your > expectations, or your reasons for working with this group to begin with. > You say you don't want to beat up on 'us' kids, but you seem to be looking > for others who share your experience, rather than those who can share their > positive experiences and strategies for fostering such relationships. I > have a feeling that you didn't found this group as a forum to gripe about > "today's kids". The fact is that there is a generation gap, one can clearly > see that from the way that your message reads to someone like me. The > experiences you have shared are atrocious, no one can argue with that. > However, I have had quite a few experiences with your generation that could > cause me to stereotype anyone over 50 as a doddering, inefficient, > technophobe. I instead choose to see these interactions as they are: as > isolated incidents, and learn to avoid them. I suggest you do the same. > > --Ryan Nestor > > > > > > I only mention this because I am curious if others have had issues with > this upcoming generation of this sort: > > I actually had three kids threaten to sue me for something like $20 > withheld when they quit projects because they had better things to do, or so > they said, and didn't feel like working. Another 20-something threatened to > sue me for $60 when I didn't personally drop off her check at her house!! > This same young woman cited my violation of HIPPA standards, not having a > clue they relate to health care security. Sigh . . . > > In all cases, plus the more recent one mentioned with some pique by me in > the last email, I offered to give each a second chance if they were willing > to come back to work and sort out what bothered them. Also, they exhibited > zero understanding of small claims court requirements and did not seem to > understand that people who ditch out on work don't usually get paid. In > fact, they didn't realize that interns rarely get paid, though I always pay > trainees who show commitment. > > My aim is to not beat up on kids, but learn a) if others share these sorts > of experiences, and b) what you have done about them. In 20 years in > business, plus 10 years running news desks and newspapers I have NEVER > encountered this sort of attitude. Much has been written about the so-called > Milleniums and their attitude issues. Now I'm seeing what these writers and > business managers are describing first hand. > > We want to encourage this generation to succeed, right? > > As my new staffer, Ashely Deiana told me when she interviewed, it's pretty > tough out there for college grads today. She was delighted to get work from > me and the payment I offered for training, which was above minimum wage. I > can tell you that Ashley and Kate Korolov, another recent staffer (now in > New Zealand) are real pros; just the sort of people I would recommend to > anyone. > > So, fill me in on your experiences. I have journalists and editors out > there interested in what we have to say. NO NAMES PLEASE. > > best, > > Amy Zuckerman > HT Founder > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20100305/31fd607d/attachment.html