For whatever it's worth, when I found out that Unicel (Western Mass) was being bought out by Verizon I renewed my Unicel contract so that Verizon would have to honor the terms for the length of the contract. Verizon has tried to sell me a new Verizon plan (more minutes for the same price) but I have adamantly refused. (I've never used up the minutes I have.) The sales person at Unicel helped me pick the new free verizon phone I wanted and I'm actually happy with it. But once my verizon contract runs out I don't know if I'll stay with Verizon. I have verizon for my landline and dsl and that's fine. But I really liked Unicel. It was really nice to be able to go talk to a real, local person at a nearby store. And they never tried to sell me something I didn't need. In fact, more than once they talked me out of something I thought I wanted to buy but it turned out I didn't really need it, or there was a less expensive option. Too bad. But my advice for anyone who still has unicel is to quickly renew your contract so verizon will have to honor it. I'm glad I did. Lynne On Oct 13, 2009, at 9:00 PM, michaelbix wrote: > ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's > area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > I think I'll weigh in here, having just attempted to make the switch > to AT&T, given the Unicel (Vermont) is going off-line in December. > > The sales pitch at the store was definitely misleading (the rep was > trying to push me to a more-minutes plan based upon usage patterns > he could "see on his screen" - but Unicel told me later the next day > that AT&T doesn't have access to their customer records, and that he > was fakin' it). > > I decided to shop/sign-up via the Internet. On line was a bit > slower but the slow "reveal" that there was (first) a required > monthly data plan paired with my chosen high-end phone, and (second) > a connection fee to port-over my old number - were left to the very, > very last minute/last pages. And a crucial piece of information for > you world travelers, the key attraction with any "international" > phone is portability from one GSM-based plan to another. Pull the > SIM/GSM chip, put in another... and change carriers. I like Sony- > Ericsson phones (I prefer them for their signal pickup in remote > Vermont valleys). But only after a day of analysing fine print > did I finally see in the "returns" policy that, ouch, this phone and > all other sold by AT&T are "locked" to them... meaning, on their > network only. > > I had begun to set up the arrangement but had not yet digitally > "signed" the agreement (a separate "click to agree" email) when I > discovered this "locked" phone issue. So I called the sales team > back to arrange a different plan, where I could use my existing > feature-primitive "unlocked" phone instead. > > They couldn't accommodate. Sorry. The phone had been shipped. The > plan had been initiated and the phone activated from the time my > order was taken down by the sales team. And, somehow (according to > them), although my activated "new number" on AT&T is the same as my > in-use "old number" on Unicel, the phone-plan charge clock is > already running. Two plans on one number? Didn't make sense. (A > different, U.S.-based AT&T rep has since told me the India-based > supervisor was talking through his hat.) Who do ya trust? > > And the initial sales rep had definitely instructed me to be certain > to acknowledge and agree to the plan (by live-link check-off) in > that return email - otherwise the phone would not be shipped. > Simplexity (AT&T's fulfillment company) had screwed up... apparently > this is standard, however. Several supervisors and two days later I > finally got the locked high-end phone and the plan cancelled > (neither of which I had given final approval for) but the charges > stayed on their books. I'd have to return the phone to their > warehouse for inspection. > > It has since arrived here and has now been returned with their RMA, > and they have acknowledged receipt at their warehouse (as agreed). > So many calls had to be made, to get to this point. > > Do I get my refund? No. > > I've (yesterday) received an email saying their accounting > department will review "my account" (I have none... I've agreed to > nothing, ordered nothing) to see if I qualify for a refund, which > will be "processed" sometime within up to seven business days in the > future. Who knows when I will actually see the money (for this high- > end Cybershot phone) back inside my bank account. Gees. > > After all this I will still go AT&T eventually - signing up through > my friendly Radio Shack store rather than the sharks at the AT&T > front end. I'll go for the bottom-bottom plan and the "free" > phone... then switch that chip over into my unlocked phone > (whichever one I get on the open market... whenever I choose to > upgrade). Meanwhile, for my other data needs, I'm getting an iPod > Touch. > > I've had a many-year Vodafone plan in Europe... my calls in Ireland/ > UK for instance cost me about the equivalent of $.37 per minute, > whereas using AT&T's no-roaming "international minutes" would, I > believe, cost $1.39 each. No way. I'll pull my AT&T chip when I > step off the plane, and slide in my Vodafone chip instead. > > Was this "switch to AT&T" complicated? Way too much. Losing more > than a full working day on the phone and in emails and shipping, so > I can come back to zero with AT&T was very disappointing. It's > been said here before, and I thought I was doing it too... but pay > close attention, and then... pay closer attention. > > Now. Time to start again. > > Best > Michael Cerulli Billingsley > Straight Arrow Recordings > Location Recording - CD Mastering - Audio Solutions/Sound Effects > 802-254-3975 ~~ The Cotton Mill, Brattleboro, Vermont 05301 > > > On 7 October 09, at 2:11 PM, Stefan Gonick wrote: > >> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the >> member's area. >> ** If you did, we all thank you. >> >> >> Hey Everyone, >> >> I'm considering switching to AT&T Wireless specifically to get the >> iPhone. >> However, I've heard some disturbing things about their service. In >> particular, >> I have a friend who says that she can have her voicemails delayed >> significantly >> (hours or even a day). That would be unacceptable to me if it's a >> regular >> occurrence. >> >> What has your experience been with AT&T Wireless service in general >> and the voicemail situation in particular? >> >> Thanks, >> Stefan >> >> ===================================================== >> Database WebWorks: Dynamic web sites through database integration >> http://www.DatabaseWebWorks.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech >> Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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