[Hidden-tech] Motion-detectors, camera suggestions, safety

[David Korpiewski]

There is one factor that no one has addressed, which is what good is a 
DVR and fancy cameras if your house burns down anyways?  So the the next 
question is how to secure the images off site or in a HD in a fireproof 
box in order to preserve it for investigative work later on.

However, these cameras can be extremely useful.  A case in point, my 
brother bought thousands of dollars of stereo and TV things from Tweeter 
when it was going out of business.  Later on two of these Tweeter 
employees tried to break in his house to steal the equipment and my 
brother's camera system recorded them doing it.  The police used the 
video feed as evidence and put these guys away.  Interestingly enough, 
my brother was inside, heard noises, turned on his camera feed and saw 
them, then called the cops.  So it helped to keep him safe too since he 
didn't need to expose himself to the buglers.



Shawn Gundersen, CTS wrote:
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> There are plenty of inexpensive security cameras on the web with built 
> in IR rings for night time.  The ones that work on standard coaxial 
> cable will be the easiest to install.  There are lots of convertors, 
> some that'll go right into your PC as a capture card, etc.  There are 
> pricey options like multi-channel DVR's that'll keep flipping between 
> cameras and others that'll do motion detection to save hard drive 
> space.  The cheaper cameras have pretty abysmal resolution and once 
> converted and compressed into a digital file, it is hard to resolve fine 
> features - like faces -for the police to use as to capture the perp.  
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> I think the greatest deterrent for a miscreant is fear of being caught, 
> so a motion detecting flood light with a very visible security camera 
> will scare off most of the burglars and firebugs out there.  The camera 
> doesn't need to be real at that point.  There are plenty of products out 
> there that look like cameras with a glowing red LED on them.  Most 
> crooks aren't going to risk exposure to get close enough to see if they 
> are real!
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>  Of course, if you have the video to put a face on one of these losers - 
> all the better! 
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> Shawn Gundersen, CTS
> Principal Consultant
> Norseman AV Technology Design
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> On 12/30/2009 11:47 AM, nestor at fuzzy-math.com wrote:
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>> check mout Unibrain for high quality digital cameras at reasonable  
>> prices.
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>> http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm
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>> On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Chris Hoogendyk wrote:
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>>> Perhaps also of interest -- http://www.bensoftware.com/ss/
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>>> I've played with that a bit, and it worked quite nicely. I could  
>>> access
>>> the built in camera on a computer in a server room across campus. It  
>>> has
>>> software capabilities for motion detection and can initiate capture  
>>> to a
>>> remote server based on motion. Somewhere on their site I recall seeing
>>> some references for digital security cameras that could tie into the
>>> computer and thus be used by this software.
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>>> nestor at fuzzy-math.com wrote:
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>>>> Why not combine the two and use motion-activated photo/video.  If you
>>>> already have a canon camera, this can be accomplished via the
>>>> alternate firmware package called CHDK.  With CHDK installed(does not
>>>> replace your original firmware, and is easily uninstalled), you can
>>>> load scripts which will detect motion and snap shots or videos.  You
>>>> may want to consider IR illumination for "night vision"  which will
>>>> not be visible to the intruder, or pair this with motion activated
>>>> lighting. You also have the option of purchasing a camera suited to
>>>> CCTV and security applications and hooking it to a vcr, DVR, or
>>>> computer.  Some security DVRs have motion detection, but you could
>>>> also record at a low framerate and get hours of footage out of a few
>>>> gigs of storage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 30, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Owen Freeman-Daniels wrote:
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>>>>> In light of the recent fires that have taken place in Northampton
>>>>> that are suspected arson, there has been much chatter about the
>>>>> installation of motion-detecting flood lights on the porches and
>>>>> homes of Northampton residents. Another suggestion has been the use
>>>>> of video cameras running during the night. Some are talking about
>>>>> positioning them inside their homes looking outward, others are
>>>>> talking about setting them up on their properties looking into the
>>>>> street.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone at Hidden-Tech have suggestions for a good video camera
>>>>> useful for these types of purposes?  Outdoor ones might need some
>>>>> durability to withstand the elements. I also have heard about a
>>>>> video camera that only turns on when it detects motion-- I wonder
>>>>> how well those work or if anyone has had experience with them.
>>>>> Another matter to consider is the duration of a recording-- possibly
>>>>> 6+ hours. Again, if anyone has any suggestions or experience with
>>>>> observation video cameras, it would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> Owen Freeman-Daniels
>>>>> Ward 3 Neighborhood Association
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