I wrote a good deal of documentation in TeX and LaTeX and I appreciated the programmability of the two. I wrote one manual for 14 different microprocessors that needed only the name of the processor on the command line to produce the customized manual. However, I quote Donald Knuth (from memory) regarding getting TeX to properly format a page: "If all else fails, there is no document that cannot be improved by rewriting." A playwright I read in the 1980's said that after she started using a word processor, she realized that she normally rewrote scenes to fit on the same typewritten page to avoid retyping the entire play. Truman Capote said of Jack Kerouac, "That's not writing. That's typewriting." I also used troff and nroff. troff was designed by Joseph Osanna in the mid 70's I believe. He left it largely undocumented and then died in a motorcycle accident. nroff was good and supplied with macro packages like LaTeX. Of course, when I went to the me macro file to look into modifying it, the comment at the top of the file read "Comments have been removed to save space. If you need them, see me. Neal" I briefly envisoned called SUN or UC Berkeley Computer Dept to ask for Neal before I abandoned them in favor of TeX, whose documentation was available but was apparently written by Lewis Carroll. And yes, Word is buggy as sh*t and whoever came up the data structures they use for numbered/bulleted lists should be brought to trial in the Hague. Framemaker seems to be the program of choice for professionals, but you're not going to get businesses to use it. In Shakespeare's time, spelling your name in different ways was considered a mark of intelligence. Do IM and texting acronyms mean the same thing? Perhaps if we required writers to illuminate their manuscripts like Medieval monks, they might take more care about spewing forth junk. On the other hand, they might spend more time on twining vines and angels than syntax and content. My point is that your available technology determines your communication and that quality is still in the hands of the human. If we taught people how to think and how to communicate, their tools would matter less. ---------------------------------------- From: "Roger Williams" <roger at qux.com> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 6:16 PM To: "Robert Heller" <heller at deepsoft.com> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Microsoft Office suite vs. other options ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. >>>>> Robert Heller writes: > "Word Processors: Stupid and Inefficient": > http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/wp.html I wholeheartedly agree with Allin Cottrell (and Donald Knuth) on the distinctions between composition versus typesetting and structured documents. I've written hundreds of technical papers in LaTeX. (I still use XEmacs for well over half of my computer interaction.) However, on the whole I've found it more productive to produce graphics- intensive technical papers using structured Framemaker, i.e. NO on-the-fly formatting whatsoever. -- Roger Williams Chief Technical Officer, Qux Corporation 433 West Street, Suite 8, Amherst, MA 01002, USA Tel +1 413 253-6400 * Fax +1 508 302-0230 * GSM +1 508 287-1420 _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20091212/0107fe22/attachment.html