I will spend about 1/2 hour on a system cleaning it up and trying to remove everything before giving up and recommending a clean install. Yes it really is a pain to reload everything again but in the long term you get a better experience. Badly infected Windows never seem's to recover properly. Kevin Phillips KPIT Consulting kevin at kpitconsulting.com Office (413) 420-0212 Cell (413) 330-7789 www.kpitconsulting.com <http://www.kpitconsulting.com/> www.wmassforums.com <http://www.wmassforums.com/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20091207/16c1a3c2/attachment.html