Thanks Frank I should have asked my housemate who is in computer science how to setup a fax copier printer on the Mac. We are so private around here that I didn't even know she had a Mac. All you do is connect the printer. I stole my scanner firewire cable and plugged it directly in the computer. [ HPs will not print unless the hub is powered] The printer just showed up in the print dialogue. NOTE: What could have been a red herring was the instruction from the HP setup assistant to find the "printer setup in the utilities folder of the applications folder". There is no such thing in a Mac OS 10.5.8. RHH - Reading help helps too. Robin = The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. -Edmund Burke Robin MacRostie Choreo G R A P H I C Design where YOU're the show & tell 413-549-6403 • 413.461.6655 choreographicdesign.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20090813/c3f0b0b9/attachment.html