[Hidden-tech] Web URL hijack, update

ussailis at shaysnet.com ussailis at shaysnet.com
Thu Nov 8 14:01:13 EST 2007


Thank you for the info. I printed the page to post in front of me.

Yes, I do worry that someone will grab the URL quickly. 

About a year after I got it, a National Wireless in Canada emailed my ISP
that I had sold the URL to them. Fortunately, my ISP is a friend who called
me before doing anything else.

Then in 2004 Pres. Bush mentioned a "national wireless initiative." Two
days later the registrar of the URL got an email requesting release of the
URL, saying that I had never used it. Good story, but it was up & running
the day we got our incorporation papers from the Commonwealth in '98. 

Again, THANKS!

Jim Ussailis


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From: Bronwen Hodgkinson - cdeVision bronwen at cdevision.com
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:43:47 -0500
To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] Web URL hijack, update


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This may be helpful...

I use the Domain Monitor at www.domaintools.com & check in on a regular
basis to see quickly at-a-glance which domains we own are close to
expiration.

Losing control of your domain name can be a nightmare - we see this happen
frequently to new clients who have had someone else register their domain
names for them, or who have forgotten their registrar account info, or
simply forget. We've seen cases where domain names have expired & been
snapped up by disreputable organizations who offer to "sell back" a domain
name for thousands of dollars. We urge our clients to register their own
domain names.

So a couple of important points:
1. Keep track of your domain names (registration account info and expiration
dates).
2. Own your own domain names! We've also seen too many cases where a
previous developer registered a domain name for a client - the client loses
touch with the developer, or has a falling-out with them, and the developer
won't release ownership (in a particularly nasty case of this, the developer
pointed to domain name to a competitor's website).

Bronwen
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-----Original Message-----
From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net
[mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:52 AM
To: ussailis at shaysnet.com
Cc: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Web URL hijack, update


A few notes, for reference we are a Tucows RSP (reseller something 
something).

1) Domains go through a two step (fuzzy plus) expiration process, 30 
days to be renewed
and then 40 days to be 'redeemed' by the owner - then they are supposed 
to be released
to the open market for reuse.  The fuzzy is that some registrars either 
renew themselves
for parking pages (those strange search/advertising pages)  OR some how 
they just get
stuck -- NetSol being really good at that.  At some point after the 
official expiration
date the registrars are allowed to 'park' a domain and get any revenue 
they can for
the advertising on the parking page.

So the net-net what you saw was the parking page from eNom and that is 
why you
were able to recover it so quickly -- a lesson to all - check your 
domain(s) at least monthly
and get a registrar or reseller who works for your interest.

2) Tucows is a registrar directly with one level of resllers, sounds 
like your case
has Enom doing 2 level of reselling

3) I know of no connection of eNom and Tucows and couldn't find one on a 
quick
scan of our Tucows dealer information

4) Whois is in fact a 2 step process however any recent whois client 
actually does a two
step look up starting with the TLD whois manager.  Also, I looked up 
your host IP
at the TLD name servers so things had been fixed by the time I looked, 
or had
not propagated to reach all name servers - could have been at either end 
of the problem.

You don't usually see the intermediate step unless you can request a 
verbose lookup,
Our first step looks like this


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