[Hidden-tech] lunch in Westfield or Southwick?

Don Lesser dlesser at ptraining.com
Fri May 25 16:57:46 EDT 2007


I'm sure there is. No slight intended on the Saint or anyone else for that
matter. It is just that "Rocco" is a stereotyped name for a thug and that in
a Mafia movie a social club named for St Rocco would verge on the satirical
rather than the serious, regardless whether it was serious or not. When you
name people in fiction, their names take on the weight of the culture in
which they exist. Some names sound tough, some sound nerdy. When you name
people and things in fiction, you can either go with the stereotype or
against it. 

In MASH, for example, Alan Alda played Franklin Pierce which is as WASPY as
Charles Emerson Winchester, III. In the first case, they gave the character
a nickname and the latter, they gave the character a middle name and a
"3rd." and you can picture the characters just from the names. Hawkeye
Pierce is a lot more iconoclastic and Charles Emerson Winchester, III is a
lot more prissy, just from the sound. Now if they called the characters
Franklin Pierce and Winchester "73," you'd have a different impression,
without even seeing the actor or hearing a line of dialog. (Speaking of
Hawkeye, in Last of the Mohicans, in the book the character is named Natty
Bumpo. The movie renamed him Nathaniel Poe, which you have to agree changed
how we look at him, although at the time of the book, I'll bet Natty was
more heroic.) 

Just trying to have some fun with words. Sorry if anyone took it amiss. 

Don Lesser
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marcia Yudkin [mailto:marcia at yudkin.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:08 PM
To: Don Lesser; eengland at crocker.com; hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] lunch in Westfield or Southwick?

> > There is a club, the St. Rocco's Club, which is probably a private club,
> > but
> > I have always wanted to check it out. If you put it in a movie, people
> > would
> > think you were trying to be funny...
> >

Don,

There actually is a St. Rocco, so you may want to retract your comment on
the name of this club.

http://www.sanrocco.org/Stories/02SanRocco.html

Marcia Yudkin








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