I'd like to point out to people the best place for those interested in improving the HT list, website and online presence in general: A list: hidden-webdev at lists.hidden-tech.net Or a forum: http://live.hidden-tech.net/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,42/board,5.0/ Yes, I know they say 'web site team' in a number of places, but is just an indication of how we all need to expand our thinking, as we have always really considered the web site and list as part of the HT online presence. Rich/WM