[Hidden-tech] How much of the $2 Billion pie is going to be yours?

Bruce G. Hooke bghooke at att.net
Wed Jan 24 11:24:20 EST 2007


I have not yet seen a copy of Windows Vista, but based on what I've read you
can run Vista in a stripped-down mode that makes it a bit less of a resource
hog, but also means doing without most of the more interesting features. Let
me emphasize again, this is just based on what I've read.  

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I'm running Vista on what my son affectionately calls my "lab rat" PC. 
It's an HP Pavilion with 2Ghz Pentium 4 processor and 512 MB of RAM. 
Other than the fact that I can't resolve a video problem with the Intel
on-board graphics, it runs fine. In fact, some tasks such as searching the
hard drive, it does very fast.

Beyond that, after mucking around briefly, I don't see anything truly
compelling about this upgrade. There may be features I haven't discovered
yet, but it looks like the same old Windows to me with a gussied up
front-end.

To be fair, I have hardly put it through its paces in any significant
fashion, but early returns are that I'm not that impressed.

Ron

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>>From what I've read re: Vista to date, I think that the majority of 
>>Vista
> sales will have to be OEMs, simply because Vista is such a resource 
> intensive OS, it will slow 95% of currently configured computers to an 
> absolute crawl.
> 
> I think Vista will have a much longer sales cycle than earlier Windows 
> OS upgrades, but the majority of PC manufacturers will make a complete 
> switch on January 30th, and every machine will ship with Vista.
> 
> It's just that Vista is so resource intensive, Microsoft won't be able 
> to sell as many upgrades to existing computers unless you're using a 
> high-end gaming PC with tons of memory, a top-of-the-line video card, etc.
> 
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> At Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:28:25 -0500 "Nick Braak" 
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>> A just released report predicts that the imminent launch of 
>> MicrosoftÂ’s Windows Vista operating system will generate a 
>> staggering $2 Billion in economic activity in Massachusetts in 2007. 
>> That's not Microsoft's bounty, it's what they are calling the "Vista 
>> Effect" which will benefit many related businesses and will add 5000 IT
jobs this year alone.
>>
>> The report from IDC makes for very interesting reading. There is a 
>> good breakdown of the existing technology economy with some pretty 
>> impressive stats. Please note that the report was commissioned by 
>> Microsoft, and therefore must be taken as partial. Nevertheless the $ 
>> and headcounts are big and getting bigger. Most of the activity is in 
>> the East, of course,
> yet
>> there must be opportunity for Pioneer Valley folks to get in on the
> action,
>> even the Mac and Unix types, as part of the knock-on or just the 
>> general raising of awareness and opening of corporate/institutional
wallets.
>>
>> The full PDF report is here
>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/itanalyst/docs/01052007MassVista.pdf. 
>>
>> There are also reports for New York, New Jersey and Florida at the 
>> same
> site
>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/itanalyst/default.mspx
>>
>> The reports are quite easy to read and IMHO well worth looking at. If 
>> nothing else the numbers are encouraging. Perhaps a much needed boost 
>> to
> the
>> area might come from this private sector activity, rather than 
>> traditional economic development. And when it comes to the private 
>> sector you don't
> get
>> much bigger, or wealthier than soft and cuddly ol' Microsoft :-)
>>
>> Feedback is welcome.
> 
> OK, I have a few questions.  First of all I know almost nothing about 
> Vista -- I've *NEVER* used any flavor of MS-Windows -- I am a 100% 
> Linux person (migrated to Linux from UNIX workstations and migrated 
> from VAX/VMS to UNIX before that).  Also I am wondering about the 
> chart on page three (about Vista taking over from NT/2K/XP.
> 
> First question: do existing Win32 applications run as-is under Vista? 
> Or is Vista really a completely different operating system?  One of 
> the ongoing bits of Microsoft 'confusion' is the constant renaming of 
> software and the abandonment of any sort of release versioning -- one 
> has no way of knowing if the new operating system is a major upgrade 
> or a minor upgrade -- Win95/Win98/WinMW => 2K == major, 2K => XP 
> minor, => Vista ???  I'm wondering if Vista will break applications or 
> just be a
> (relatively) 'minor' upgrade.
> 
> Second question: given that many people *still* use Win95/Win98 on 
> older systems and many people also still use 2K, how realistic is the 
> idea that *ALL* MS-Windows users will in fact upgrade to Vista anytime 
> in the short run?  Or will only people buying new machines be getting 
> Vista and Vista upgrade boxes languish on store shelves (much as 2K 
> and XP upgrade boxes have)?  In other words, how much (realisticly) 
> will Microsoft's sales of Vista be OEM copies and how many will be 
> retail or upgrade copies?
> 
>>
>> Nick Braak
>> Internet Strategist and CommentatorÂ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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