[Hidden-tech] who knows about botnets?
    Daniel Fried 
    dan at creativeconstructs.com
       
    Tue Jan  9 09:47:07 EST 2007
    
    
  
Actually, if you want to download software from Microsoft, you need to have
an ActiveX plug-in to handle the Windows verification, and that only works
in IE.  For most people that won't matter as long as you set the system to
update automatically, but if you want to do manual updates, or download
Windows Defender or certain developer tools, you will need IE.
 
-Dan
 
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Dunn
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:00 PM
To: Tish Grier; Seth Seeger; A - Z International
Cc: Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] who knows about botnets?
 
> Well, I can't necessarily go with the "never use IE" advice, since
Microsoft can make using Firefox a bit difficult...
 
I have been using Firefox ever since version 1 and have never had any
problem, on XP Home.  I have no idea what might make the above statement
true.  There is one website my wife regularly visits that doesn't work well
under Firefox, but this is the fault of the website developers, not
Microsoft.
 
- Jeremy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tish Grier <mailto:tishgrier at yahoo.com>  
To: Seth Seeger <mailto:seth at seeger.ws>  ; A - Z
<mailto:az at a-zinternational.com>  International 
Cc: Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] who knows about botnets?
 
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Well, I can't necessarily go with the "never use IE" advice, since Microsoft
can make using Firefox a bit difficult...
 
If you use IE, keep all the Service Paks and patches updated.  My computer's
stuck with SP1 (can't be updated to SP2), but I have super-terrific security
and keep the patches updated.
 
I have Trend Micro on both my HP PCs.  I use Webroot's Spysweeper on my
laptop, and both AdAware SE and Spybot S/D on my desktop in addition to my
Trend Micro security stuff.
 
Also, if you're online alot, you should do sweeps for adware and virus scans
at least once a week
 
And I never click on any sort of "offer" or other thing that might pop up on
my screen out of nowhere.  That's usually an indication it's a piece of
spyware or some other nasty thing.
 
As the article suggested, don't let your kid (or kids) use the same computer
that you might use for home business.  I can see why the two should be
separate for alot of reasons beyond just 'bots.   
 
Tish
 
   
Seth Seeger <seth at seeger.ws> wrote:
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There are three very easy things you can do:
1. Never connect your computer directly to the internet. Always have 
a hardware firewall in between. (Any of the Linksys/D-Link/etc 
router/firewall products. They're rather inexpensive.)
2. Never use IE. There are other very good browsers out there. My 
two favorites are Firefox and Opera (both free).
3. Do not download games or pirated software off the internet. Legit 
applications from reputable sources are great. But never download 
games advertised as "free". And never download pirated software. Both 
are good sources of viruses, adware, spyware, etc.
-Seth
On Jan 8, 2007, at 10:01 AM, A - Z International wrote:
> ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee.
> ** You too can help the group
> ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
> ** If you did, we all thank you.
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> The NY Times ran a very scary story on the front page yesterday about 
> botnets and their potential for destroying computers and gathering 
> financial information. They did have a box that offered advice, most 
> of which I knew about and was doing, thanks (in a funny way) to that 
> identity theft incident of mine a year ago.
>
> Anyone know about Noscript and other utilities that will help these 
> predators stay clear of our systems -- primarily us Windows users?
>
> best,
>
> Amy Zuckerman
> Hidden-Tech Founder
>
>
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