> the > slogan ("Business networking that doesn't suck") is so off-putting that > I would never consider associating myself with it. It must have been started by geekazoids--this is geek humor. It's a reference to the (classic) Mutt tag line (from the Mutt author): "All mail clients suck. This one sucks less." -- me, circa 1995 They are a bit lest modest than the Mutt author. At least they didn't use a recursive acronym like GNU or BASH. FWIW, I like the mailing list as is, other than "time to move this discussion to the web site" decisions, which, AFAICT, seem to be a feeble attempt to drive traffic to the web (so we can sell ads? wave page-view stats to people to get funding?) and just serve to kill discussion. But I'm a mailing list bigot ... I have no use for web forums. m