It never hurts to get your name out there, not-sucking not withstanding (and the dobee stuff is indeed annoying - it's not even spelled right). I registered at Biznik. I would rather conduct networking through Hidden Tech, but in the meantime, I'd be glad to organise an audio-video networking event through Biznik or some other avenue. Another example of a website that makes businesses easy to find is New York State's Adhub http://www.adhub.com Listings are not free, but the site is easy to use. Mary Mary C. McKitrick MCM Voices (413) 320-1181 studio/mobile http://www.mcmvoices.com mcm at mcmvoices.com BLOG: http://www.mcmvoices.com/blog/blog.htm DEMOS: http://www.mcmvoices.com/demo.htm Specialising in medical, biotech & health care narration, museum narration, and character voices & accents -----Original Message----- From: Tom Adams / Reelife [mailto:reelifeproductions at mac.com] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 11:18 AM To: 'Hidden Tech Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] biznik ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. ** You too can help the group ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. Dan, I agree....we don't want to put the cart before the horse...sounds like a website meeting with all interested HT members is in order... (talk about opening up a whole new can of worms...yowza). Anyone interested in leading the charge? (I'd volunteer myself but my personal assistant (me) tells me that my cup already overfloweth) Regards, Tom Adams Director/Owner Reelife Documentary Productions using today's technology to educate, entertain and enlighten "cool digital audio/video stuff...not boring or dumb" 413.575.9707 reelifeproductions at mac.com, www.reelifeproductions.com http://web.mac.com/reelifeproductions Williamsburg, MA, USA (I'm currently out of the Reelife Office...emailing remotely) On Friday, January 05, 2007, at 10:56AM, "Dan Green" <dgreen at truepresence.com> wrote: >Hey there, > > >The site was done by a member who does magnificent websites-she's an awesome >designer. Many of us can indeed do outstanding web work. Resources (time >and money) are one of the major issues. But I'd be concerned about starting >in the middle by redesigning a site without clearly defining what the >business goal is. > >Some of the issues we'd need to address are- >What kind of organization does Hidden-Tech want to be? >What image do we want to present to the rest of the world? >Do we want to be perceived as a social community or social business network, >the Biznik site model is fantastic. >If we want to market all of us as a business service group, professional >network or organization, other models exist that might better communicate >the group. >Target markets need to be defined. >Search marketing needs are a huge consideration in any design and language >will be critical. >Do we want the site to generate revenue for the group? What about adverting, >collection of data for marketing? >There are other issues as well. Once we better define these then design and >functional requirements can be better determined. > >Thanks >Dan > > > >Dan Green >Area President > >TruePresence >498 South Gulf Road Belchertown, MA 01007 >Direct: 413.253.3400 | Fax: 413.253.3400 >dgreen at truepresence.com | www.truepresence.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net >[mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of fern >Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:00 PM >To: Tom Adams / Reelife; Hidden Tech Discussion List >Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] biznik > > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. > ** You too can help the group > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > >As a newbie to HT, I was surprised to see that the >website lacked any punch given that there are so many >members who do websites. As a matter of fact, I don't >think I've ever gone back to the HT website since I >became a member. > >Has there been any discussions in the past about how >best to use the website? I think this Biznik site is >great and could serve as a model for Hidden Tech. > >Fern > > > > >--- Tom Adams / Reelife <reelifeproductions at mac.com> >wrote: > >> ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. >> ** You too can help the group >> ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the >> member's area. >> ** If you did, we all thank you. >> >> >> Mik, >> >> yeh, really. that Biznik site makes me wanna' get >> up and dance the can-can... >> >> Giannina, please sign me up! Again, not to slight >> all the great work that's been gowing on with face >> to face networking and meetings and stuff right here >> in the happy valley ...but I really think Biznik has >> absolutely captured the essence of what is necessary >> to make a modern, small business efficient, >> profitable and dare I say ...FUN! >> >> I can't wait to take a closer look... >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom Adams >> >> Director/Owner >> Reelife Documentary Productions >> using today's technology to educate, entertain and >> enlighten >> "cool digital audio/video stuff...not boring or >> dumb" >> 413.575.9707 >> reelifeproductions at mac.com, >> www.reelifeproductions.com >> http://web.mac.com/reelifeproductions >> Williamsburg, MA, USA >> >> >> >> On Thursday, January 04, 2007, at 04:31PM, "Michael >> Muller" <michael at mullertech.com> wrote: >> > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. >> > ** You too can help the group >> > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the >> member's area. >> > ** If you did, we all thank you. >> > >> > >> > >> >Giannina, >> > >> >Wow. That site rocks. I'm impressed. From a >> software point of view there are several things in >> there that I've been thinking of doing to my >> directory function for a long time, and many more >> things that I now want to do now that I see them. >> It's really well done, and I almost think we should >> lift what they're doing and use it for HT. I mean... >> wow. Definitely, send me an invitation. >> > >> >And all this conversation is not to say that HT >> isn't great and hasn't done good things. It is >> great, and it holds many excellent seminars and >> networking opportunities. But if we're talking about >> making HT better, here's a website model that makes >> me sit up and get excited. It seems to drive the >> organization, rather than the website being a >> glimpse of what the organization is about. This is >> natural, of course, since HT started as a group of >> people who wanted to network, and not as a website >> that wanted to network and promote people. >> > >> >For a refresher, here's the HT "about" page: >> http://hidden-tech.net/about.html >> > >> >And here's BizNik's "manifesto" page: >> http://biznik.com/about/manifesto.html >> > >> > >> >BTW, It looks like there was an HT meeting in >> September to vote on a Steering Committee. What was >> the outcome of that meeting? >> > >> >Michael >> > >> > >> > >> >At 12:21 PM 1/4/2007, Giannina Granata Silverman >> wrote: >> >>Michael, >> >> >> >>Thank you for your excellent insights. >> >> >> >>My thoughts mirror your own. While Hidden-tech has >> been great for me to meet people in a live setting >> (the offline events have been great), the site does >> not do any heavy lifting in terms of leveraging our >> community and our expertise. >> >> >> >>I am going to send you an example of a community I >> belong to in Seattle that is similar to Hidden-tech, >> it's made of small solopreneur types and indie >> businesses, but it uses a social networking model. I >> wish the Hidden-tech site was more like this! It's a >> self-promotional killer app!! >> >> >> >>It is: www.biznik.com >> >> >> >>The Biznik community is Seattle-based but anyone >> can join, and there are members from all over the >> world who are starting their own local "chapters". >> And non-members can look within the member directory >> for people they want to work with. The founders >> closely manage the site and the vision of the >> community, but anyone can contribute by putting on a >> seminar in their area (you get a cut of every >> seminar you put on) or hosting a networking >> happy-hour in your area. The more you contribute, or >> show up, or post on the message board, or bring in >> new members, the higher you rank in searches. And, >> you can pay $100 a year to be a supporting member, >> which buys you a higher search rank and and >> revolving ads, but otherwise the site is free. I am >> a non-paying member and my profile gets about 50-80 >> views a month. >> >> >> >>What's great about this network is that they've >> figured out how to use the internet to it's ultimate >> advantage. >> >>The site also has links to member blogs so people >> can self-promote to their hearts content. >> >> >> >>BTW, if anyone wants an invitation to Biznik, let >> me know via email and I'll invite ya! Or you can >> sign up on your own. >> >>Thanks! Hope you're all well!! >> >>-g >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Giannina Granata Silverman >> >>Rocket Ranch Design + Advertising >> >>gsilverman at rocketranchdesign.com >> >> >> >>Seattle: 425.939.6823 >> >>Mass: 413.303.9453 >> >>Cell: 425.780.1693 >> >> >> >>www.rocketranchdesign.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >-------- >> >Michael Muller >> >Muller Technologies >> >24 3rd Street >> >Turners Falls, MA 01376 >> >work: (413) 863-0030 >> >cell: (413) 320-5336 >> >skype: michaelBmuller >> >http://support.MullerTech.com >> > >> >Eschew Obfuscation >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: >> http://www.hidden-tech.net >> >Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> > >> >You are receiving this because you are on the >> Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> >If you would like to change your list preferences, >> Go to the Members >> >page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> >http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: >> http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the >> Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, >> Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > > >_________________________________________________ > >Fern > >Firefly...Entertainment to brighten your event! >DJ and Event Planning services for all occasions. >_________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? 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